...and you cant sell you hash. I dont want to play smart here but I ve been pointing out to people to invest into something else for months.
The GM story ll be, what do u complain about, diff up, solar flares, martians attack, etc.
All in all, you cannot make money with GM, you just throw your money away.
Time to say you were right yeah. That's a fucked up situation.
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Fact is every contracts with 0.2 fees are useless now. With such fees no body can achieve ROI. My 3TH have 0.2 fee, so they are useless and making 0 profit because GM is taking 6$ fees everyday. They are the one making profit with our contracts. Shame on them.
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(Last edited february 2021) Scammer Profile: GENESIS MINING : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=247140This company is scamming people on purpose : they are selling contracts knowing their customers won't get any return on their investment. They are selling "lifetime contracts" but they will only last 2-3 months and will be cancelled when the fees are higher than your payout. Through this thread, we have collected several testimonies against Genesis Mining :Other scam accusation threads against Genesis Mining : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2487178.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2511618.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2259139https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3224728People complaining directly on their facebook official page : http://imgur.com/7wsvlDohttp://imgur.com/Ot0aYOcPeople complaining on the forum : My next try will be EuroPol... Genesis Mining is a scam, a ponzi. Throughout my contract, they've never ever paid me regularly. Every time, I sent at least 10 e-mails and they paid me something (we can't be sure how much we should get since they don't SHOW unpaid balances, their dashboard NEVER EVER SHOWED the exact amounts, always some erratic numbers, missing payouts... REAL TORTURE!!!...)
This is NOT a broken system, or as they say, a TECHNICAL GLITCH. This is a criminal act. I'll do whatever I can do to get my money back. OR expose Genesis Mining.
G-M sell delusion to its customers , for example ZEC 1 years contract cost about 0.046BTC, daily earning approx 0.00015 zec , with current price of zec i need 10 years to recover my initial investment.
Up to 2/7/2016...I knew this day would come eventually! I am 168 days into a lifetime 1.5THs contract and it's down to paying $0.02 per day. It's not dead yet but it's gasping for air. I paid 2.6310 BTC for this contract and I've collected 0.5438 in payouts from it and that's pretty much all I will ever see back. I bought this contract as a test hoping to do more later on. What a total waste of time and money. If you are thinking of buying a cloud contract from Genesis because of their slick web site, do yourself a favor and just buy and hold BTC instead.
Feel also free to read this review if you are not convinced yet : http://kipicommunity.org/genesis-mining-review-is-it-profitable-to-mine-with-genesis-mining/ ) Instead of answering negatives posts they delete it from their thread : P.S. GM, if you delete once again my post I promise to open a topic to ask people how much they lose/win with your SCAM. Of course, ZetaOS and IanFoxley, your evangelists will be forbidden to post.
I also suspect ZetaOS ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249232), Ianfoxley ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193650), mptak123 ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=32619) of shilling for Genesis Mining on the forum. They are always posting everywhere about the money they are making with Genesis Mining which is a blatant lie. Put a neutral or negative trust on Genesis mining profile here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=247140. We have to spread awareness about this.
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Let's wait for GM explanation. Maybe it's a technical error. Because I have NO payout at all for 2 days now (the mining days doesn't even appear on the "payout" board)
With normal Genesis Contract or Spondoolies? Because somebody said only the spondoolies have the problem. At least my normal works fine now. Got every payout and with ~265 Sat. per GH/s not even bad. I only have genesis contracts. It doesn't look good. They answered my ticket saying it's because of difficulty rising. According to my calculation, it's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE that my payout goes from 0.09 to 0.0000000.
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Without the ability to resell your shares/machine/whatever you should never buy into a "cloud" operation.
You've nailed it! I went against my own better judgment and bought a hash contract while knowing there was no way to get out. I basically did it as a test to see how long it would run with steady payouts but dang, it started falling apart after only 25 days! I thought if this was legit it might last a little more than a year. I knew I would need 2 years to come close to ROI so I was okay with doing this as a test but I didn’t realize I was going to lose my whole investment before the end of the first month. I thought I was sharper than that! Let's wait for GM explanation. Maybe it's a technical error. Because I have NO payout at all for 2 days now (the mining days doesn't even appear on the "payout" board)
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Doesn't really explain why the payments suddenly fell so sharply while price rose (a little) in the same period.
Also difficulty went up from 57 (x1e9) to 59.3, or a mere 4% increase. On the sept 4, there was a similar increase in difficulty (54.25 to 57, or 5% increase), which did not result in a sharp drop in payouts. So clearly something does not compute. GM should practice mathematics. Still waiting for a serious explanations here.
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Exciting times ahead.
Be prepared for a major announcement coming up next week!
If your announcement could talk about our really terrible payouts these days, we would be glad. Yeah, it´s the same shit they pulled before they made the scrypt worthless. I wonder what scam they´ll force on old sha investors. Maybe half the hashpower in the "new" sha. Wouldn´t be surprised.
I wouldn't be so surprised yeah.. I hope we are wrong... My last mining day was 17th september. Didn't receive anything since it... Same for you guys ?? Today's screenshot : http://imgur.com/r7BZbYg
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or trust me you will have to face angry people.
You better work on it really really fast.
Threats will definitely help. If I were GM, I would now terminate your contract. I'm sure it's just a technical problem and will be solved monday. Stop being a stupid puppet. It's not a threat, just reality. We paid for a service here. We are customers. We have the right to be angry with such payouts. If it is a technical problem, they better speak about it fast and loud.
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I'd really like an explanation why my payouts dropped 40% in two days while the BTC-price remained equal (in fact it rose a little).
(edit: 40% not 60%).
Same here : http://imgur.com/DsJ3U0NYou better have a good explanation GM.... I'm waiting for a serious answer. I WANT to know which pool you are using. Let's be transparent, or trust me you will have to face angry people. I would like to have a better overview over the Mining and the finded Blocks that my Hashrates are trying to solve.
That would be great to get more transparance at genesis Mining
Unfortunately at the moment as we have posted before, if you look up in our past posts here, it is not possible at the moment to display that kind of information. We are working on that. You better work on it really really fast.
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So Hashnest selling S7 hashpower from next month with lower maintenace fees just for people that purchase S7 hashpower is also a ponzi too then? As I can see no difference. Or are you saying that Hashnest should offer the same maintenance fees for the S7 contracts as the people that have bought S5, S4 and S3 hashpower in the past?
You're right. But Hashnest doesn't say it's "a gift" and all this communication bullshit. Let's be clear and honest then : You pay less because you have an efficient S7 and that's allright. There's part of it in GM announcement but it's not so clear... And, I'm curious, can you show me which blocks have been mined by GM these days ? Antpool is crystal clear, GM isn't at all.
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BIG News!
Hello miners!
I know that we end every email to you saying how much we appreciate having you as a customer, but we realize that actions often speak louder than words.
So we’ve got some BIG news that I think you will be happy to hear.
Due to recent improvements in new hardware and infrastructure, we are pleased to announce we are able to decrease maintenance from 0.0015 to 0.0012 USD per Gh/s per day for purchases starting from September 16th.
This represents an increase in payouts by over 60% at the current Bitcoin price and difficulty.
We look at our customers as our partners and when we are able to increase our efficiency, it’s only fair and responsible to pass those savings on to you.
As always, thank you for being a customer of Genesis Mining and growing with us over the last 2 years. We look forward to many years of service ahead as we all grow together.
Sincerely,
Marco Streng
Looks just more and more like a ponzi to me... How to attract new customers ?? Lower your prices... Haha you guys crack me up, you whine about wanting GM to lower prices and to do this and to do that and when they do, you then scream Ponzi...haha You guys should write comedy! They only lower the price on new contracts! It's a joke. A real gift would be to lower fees in general. To me, this gift looks like these "great discount" ponzi promoters are giving away to attract new customers to feed the ponzi scheme when they really need new money coming in before they collapse.
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BIG News!
Hello miners!
I know that we end every email to you saying how much we appreciate having you as a customer, but we realize that actions often speak louder than words.
So we’ve got some BIG news that I think you will be happy to hear.
Due to recent improvements in new hardware and infrastructure, we are pleased to announce we are able to decrease maintenance from 0.0015 to 0.0012 USD per Gh/s per day for purchases starting from September 16th.
This represents an increase in payouts by over 60% at the current Bitcoin price and difficulty.
We look at our customers as our partners and when we are able to increase our efficiency, it’s only fair and responsible to pass those savings on to you.
As always, thank you for being a customer of Genesis Mining and growing with us over the last 2 years. We look forward to many years of service ahead as we all grow together.
Sincerely,
Marco Streng
Looks just more and more like a ponzi to me... How to attract new customers ?? Lower your prices...
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We are sponsering the #ScalingBitcoin conference in Montreal which is in our view a key conference for finding a solution for the blocksize debate.
Debate is almost over. Bitcoin XT lost.
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I took your survey. Good luck with your research.
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if that is what users want, just go and use another provider that does that
Sure we will. I'm not sure it will be good for GM business. Of course I understand their position. But you have to agree it won't be possible for them to stand on such a competitive market if they don't listen to what their customers want and can find somewhere else... If they don't want to find a solution, right, I'll accept that, but I won't invest anything here anymore.
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Maybe the best way to earn Bitcoins is to play games. I've seen that you could play games such as Minecraft, among many others and earn some Bitcoins. Is it really worth to spend time playing these games to earn some coins? Unless you like the game, I think it won't be worth it. You better invest a few $$$ and get some bitcoins directly.. No need to invest too much if you don't have a lot of money.. Just get a "part of a bitcoin" then
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my contract payout now so low...>.<
hope this bitcoin price not fall below 150 $..or my contract will be gone...is there even an exit program?
No exit program.. Genesis mining doesn't listen even if a LOT of customers would be really happy to be able to sell their contracts..
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Just wondering what makes this coin so special in terms of coding compared to the other pos coins? Isn't this a splinter from the previous novacoin? I'm pondering on the idea to diversify my btc holdings so until i find a good reason for it, I'm going to hold my decision. Still looking at other options though.
It's special in that it's the coin dooglus chose to use for just-dice instead of bitcoin. Without that there wouldn't be much utility or any interest in it as you can see on the older price charts. yeah, as long as JD is online, you have a "guarantee" this coin will me worth something. But I'm affraid if JD close somehow its doors, the clams will be worth nothing in a few days.
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You probably should explain a little more what you are trying to do. What's your project ? How much time will it take ? Do you plan to pay your partner / developer or are you looking for a co-investor? All this kind of stuff...
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