Oh what else did we learn? People want Bitcoins badly enough to try and steal them.
that was the first thing a woman i know said about the MtGox incident. and i was floored at the truth of it. eh - so we've (or rather, a couple of entities not associated with the Bitcoin client/software package) had a couple of bad days. live and learn. if it doesn't kill you it only makes you stronger.
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now wait just a damn minute...
mods - has the OP been edited?
see post #10. i seem to recall that originally, the OP declared that he had a standing order at 0.01, but was worried it would get eaten up by other orders at the same level - so he changed it to 0.0101.
is that not the case?
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Must have been one hell of a few minutes!
best post of the thread. can you imagine?
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interesting can of worms.
i can't think i'd want to take the position of either party.
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the rage of the trolls is paid for.
the rage of those who were unaffected is meaningless.
the rage of those who were affected is... well... hmmm. they don't seem to be enraged. i suppose because there doesn't appear to be that large an impact.
as you imply, vladimir - no such thing as bad publicity.
and it's all good for bringing in some beefed-up security.
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more like "Lord of the Flies" than "Animal Farm". we'll see how it goes when MtGox re-opens - what else they have to say, what they do, and what everyone else does. < shrug > reality is the final arbiter.
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Get it through your head people. This is not a free forum. The debate is being manipulated for the benefit of large interests.
well, well. amid all your endless FUD and bullshit, you've finally gotten something right. no - it is not a free forum. we are guests in somebody else's home. they pay for it. manners count.
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i've changed my password - although i wasn't prompted to do so when i logged in a few (five) minutes ago.
i won't have to do it again, will i? that is: is a site-wide prompt to change passwords still coming?
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We wanted to go through everything one last time. It should be working fine at this point. Let us know if there are any issues.
thank you. and kudos for your decisions in the wake of the mtgox matter. the site is obviously pretty stressed - but functional ATM, if quite slow. i'm not buying or selling right now, but it feels much nicer having somebody up and working.
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there is a debt owed by all men, to those who have gone before.
those who built the roads; oversaw the cleanliness of our food, drugs and water; created the art we sell...
i agree that society owns no pie - but to somewhat torture a rather poor (and not mine) metaphor, perhaps the tin the pie was baked in is the stuff we all share: the stuff that holds us together.
i accept the concept of the commons. it is a thing of value, without which we are greatly diminished. to not see it is foolish, in my opinion.
we stand on the shoulders of giants, hoping for height. sometimes we achieve that. and then we need a massage...
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as i recall, that's happened before. they live on donations. send 'em something.
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it was over for me when sellers were no longer allowed to leave proper feedback on buyers. it didn't seem to matter that sellers were where ebay got its money from. we were ebay's customers; not the buyers.
That was my point in my last phone call with them...I suspect several of my calls have been used for "training purposes" due to my argumentative nature...I get my calls escalated a lot. yeah, i did that too a few years ago. no point. my sympathies, & etc. Bitcoin will bury them (to paraphrase Nikita Kruschev) - and revenge is a dish best served cold.
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i was on ebay almost from the beginning - antiquarian books is my line.
i sold over a quarter million USD: one book at a time, and all of 'em good, solid, desirable books - no complaints.
it was over for me when sellers were no longer allowed to leave proper feedback on buyers. it didn't seem to matter that sellers were where ebay got its money from. we were ebay's customers; not the buyers.
pierre would never have allowed ebay to become what it has.
i just got tired of being treated like a dishrag.
a shame. but no regrets - life's too short.
i'm sure they'll churn out a politician or two without me.
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take care.
i like a level head. see you in a year - we will all be wiser and better tempered.
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i propose backing Bitcoin with: AssCoins! i mean, as long as you're going to be pulling stuff out of it... but it is still possible to "back" bitcoins by giving each bitcoin a guaranteed minimum value which decentralized entity would do this? oh wait. you? but I would have the other portion auctioned off with the proceeds going towards backing bitcoins let me guess - by the government? In the total bitcoins over time graph, bitcoins are currently being created at a rate of 2,625,000 per year. well, no. The guarantee part of the backing could take the form of an open buy order by this mtgox account at the guaranteed bitcoin backing amount which is calculated by taking the total amount of value in the bitcoin backing fund and dividing by the current total number of bitcoins. and who would be... ah, never mind. i'm bored now.
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* sigh *
to conflate mining difficulty with BTC exchange rates is the same as spending half of eternity (see: Zeno, paradox) trying to find the mathematical relationship between the prices of hookers and blow.
i mean, sure: it looks like they're on the same table...
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I thought Bitcoins were supposed to go down on the weekend? It just hit 18 at this moment.
Resident Bitcoin economists, philosophers, and speculators, please explain! Doesn't this run contrary to Bitcoin theory? Also, didn't Edward50 predict Bitcoins would drop to 8 - 10?
those "economists, philosophers, and speculators" would all appear to believe that past statistics are a valid predictor of future performance. ...just like every wall street tout with a $400/year signal sheet. and the only people who make money - if that's their goal - are the ones who don't listen, and go their own way. me... i want a viable alternate economy. i'm sick of having my money screwed with. and if i make some dough along the way, that's fine. but mostly i want to be able to pay for the things i want without a bunch of different hands in my pockets. i mean, thanks - but i can juggle my own balls... YMMV
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don't know shit from Shinobi...
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realistically, who do you believe is going to pay you 10,000 or even anywhere near $100 per coin?
realistically, the idea that some random collection of bits and bytes could actually get to dollar parity is a pipe-dream. i mean, why would anybody pay you... wait. what?
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