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401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If this can kill Bitcoin, then it wouldn't have reached $100 or $1000+ anyways on: June 21, 2011, 12:41:40 AM

Oh what else did we learn? People want Bitcoins badly enough to try and steal them.

that was the first thing a woman i know said about the MtGox incident.

and i was floored at the truth of it.

eh - so we've (or rather, a couple of entities not associated with the Bitcoin client/software package) had a couple of bad days.

live and learn.

if it doesn't kill you it only makes you stronger.
402  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: June 21, 2011, 12:05:03 AM
now wait just a damn minute...

mods - has the OP been edited?

see post #10.  i seem to recall that originally, the OP declared that he had a standing order at 0.01, but was worried it would get eaten up by other orders at the same level - so he changed it to 0.0101.

is that not the case?
403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: June 20, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
Must have been one hell of a few minutes!

best post of the thread.

can you imagine?
404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: June 20, 2011, 09:22:23 PM
interesting can of worms.

i can't think i'd want to take the position of either party.
405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All this rage and BTC valuation is almost back where it was before the event. on: June 20, 2011, 09:11:29 PM
the rage of the trolls is paid for.

the rage of those who were unaffected is meaningless.

the rage of those who were affected is... well... hmmm.  they don't seem to be enraged.  i suppose because there doesn't appear to be that large an impact.

as you imply, vladimir - no such thing as bad publicity.

and it's all good for bringing in some beefed-up security.
406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who would rather see Mt. Gox completely dissolved? on: June 20, 2011, 09:00:24 PM

What bothers me currently is how unreasonable and irrational people are being. The forum looks like a childrens playground currently. I've just come across thread (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20139.msg252003#msg252003) where people are talking about sexual acts and goats. Come on people. This is getting a little too Animal Farm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm) for my liking. Many people have quite quickly showing their true colors in this.

more like "Lord of the Flies" than "Animal Farm".

we'll see how it goes when MtGox re-opens - what else they have to say, what they do, and what everyone else does.

< shrug >

reality is the final arbiter.
407  Other / Meta / Re: RE: "Mt. Gox is OBSOLETE. STOP USING IT." on: June 20, 2011, 07:11:46 PM
In case you haven't realized, this guy is a troll and a poor one at that.

no!

really?
408  Other / Meta / Re: RE: "Mt. Gox is OBSOLETE. STOP USING IT." on: June 20, 2011, 06:27:46 PM

Get it through your head people.  This is not a free forum.  The debate is being manipulated for the benefit of large interests.


well, well.

amid all your endless FUD and bullshit, you've finally gotten something right.

no - it is not a free forum.  we are guests in somebody else's home.

they pay for it.

manners count.
409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TradeHill - Status update - resuming service / some accounts disabled on: June 20, 2011, 04:29:50 PM
i've changed my password - although i wasn't prompted to do so when i logged in a few (five) minutes ago.

i won't have to do it again, will i?  that is:  is a site-wide prompt to change passwords still coming?
410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tradehill -- it's 10:00 EST, where are ya? on: June 20, 2011, 03:32:13 PM
We wanted to go through everything one last time.
It should be working fine at this point.
Let us know if there are any issues.

thank you.  and kudos for your decisions in the wake of the mtgox matter.

the site is obviously pretty stressed - but functional ATM, if quite slow.

i'm not buying or selling right now, but it feels much nicer having somebody up and working.
411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: When It Comes to Wealth Creation, There Is No Pie on: June 20, 2011, 04:57:28 AM
there is a debt owed by all men, to those who have gone before.

those who built the roads; oversaw the cleanliness of our food, drugs and water; created the art we sell...

i agree that society owns no pie - but to somewhat torture a rather poor (and not mine) metaphor, perhaps the tin the pie was baked in is the stuff we all share:  the stuff that holds us together.

i accept the concept of the commons.  it is a thing of value, without which we are greatly diminished.  to not see it is foolish, in my opinion.

we stand on the shoulders of giants, hoping for height.  sometimes we achieve that.  and then we need a massage...
412  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins Charts - DEAD - "Out of coins" on: June 20, 2011, 03:44:03 AM
as i recall, that's happened before.  they live on donations.  send 'em something.
413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: eBay Deleting All Bitcoin Listings on: June 19, 2011, 06:37:57 AM


it was over for me when sellers were no longer allowed to leave proper feedback on buyers.  it didn't seem to matter that sellers were where ebay got its money from.  we were ebay's customers; not the buyers.



That was my point in my last phone call with them...I suspect several of my calls have been used for "training purposes" due to my argumentative nature...I get my calls escalated a lot.

yeah, i did that too a few years ago.  no point.

my sympathies, & etc.

Bitcoin will bury them (to paraphrase Nikita Kruschev) - and revenge is a dish best served cold.
414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: eBay Deleting All Bitcoin Listings on: June 19, 2011, 06:09:38 AM
i was on ebay almost from the beginning - antiquarian books is my line.

i sold over a quarter million USD:  one book at a time, and all of 'em good, solid, desirable books - no complaints.

it was over for me when sellers were no longer allowed to leave proper feedback on buyers.  it didn't seem to matter that sellers were where ebay got its money from.  we were ebay's customers; not the buyers.

pierre would never have allowed ebay to become what it has.

i just got tired of being treated like a dishrag.

a shame.  but no regrets - life's too short.

i'm sure they'll churn out a politician or two without me.
415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goodbye for now on: June 19, 2011, 05:57:23 AM
take care.

i like a level head.  see you in a year - we will all be wiser and better tempered.
416  Economy / Economics / Re: How we could "back" bitcoins with something of value on: June 19, 2011, 02:52:52 AM
i propose backing Bitcoin with:

AssCoins!

i mean, as long as you're going to be pulling stuff out of it...

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but it is still possible to "back" bitcoins by giving each bitcoin a guaranteed minimum value

which decentralized entity would do this?  oh wait.  you?

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but I would have the other portion auctioned off with the proceeds going towards backing bitcoins

let me guess - by the government?

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In the total bitcoins over time graph, bitcoins are currently being created at a rate of 2,625,000 per year.

well, no.

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The guarantee part of the backing could take the form of an open buy order by this mtgox account at the guaranteed bitcoin backing amount which is calculated by taking the total amount of value in the bitcoin backing fund and dividing by the current total number of bitcoins.

and who would be...

ah, never mind.  i'm bored now.
417  Economy / Economics / Re: difficulty is holding back BTC value on: June 19, 2011, 02:43:41 AM
* sigh *

to conflate mining difficulty with BTC exchange rates is the same as spending half of eternity (see: Zeno, paradox) trying to find the mathematical relationship between the prices of hookers and blow.

i mean, sure:  it looks like they're on the same table...
418  Economy / Economics / Re: What happened to the weekend slump? on: June 19, 2011, 02:31:37 AM
I thought Bitcoins were supposed to go down on the weekend? It just hit 18 at this moment.

Resident Bitcoin economists, philosophers, and speculators, please explain! Doesn't this run contrary to Bitcoin theory? Also, didn't Edward50 predict Bitcoins would drop to 8 - 10?

those "economists, philosophers, and speculators" would all appear to believe that past statistics are a valid predictor of future performance.

...just like every wall street tout with a $400/year signal sheet.

and the only people who make money - if that's their goal - are the ones who don't listen, and go their own way.

me... i want a viable alternate economy.  i'm sick of having my money screwed with.  and if i make some dough along the way, that's fine.  but mostly i want to be able to pay for the things i want without a bunch of different hands in my pockets.

i mean, thanks - but i can juggle my own balls...

YMMV
419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just an Observation on: June 19, 2011, 01:50:08 AM
don't know shit from Shinobi...
420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how much money have you cashed out from bitcoin on: June 18, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
realistically, who do you believe is going to pay you 10,000 or even anywhere near $100 per coin?

realistically, the idea that some random collection of bits and bytes could actually get to dollar parity is a pipe-dream.  i mean, why would anybody pay you...

wait.

what?
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