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4001  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: T17e review. on: May 20, 2020, 01:34:11 AM
@AlecMe

I went into great detail explaining the cause of this issue in my topic but let me summarize the part which matters for you, you have a faulty PSU.

There are mainly two types of sensor errors, one which fails to read temps on all sensors on all boards (your case), this is without a doubt a PSU issue, the other one where only a single board fails to report temps, that board has a bad chip/heatsink.

In both scenarios, you should always Sdflash that miner and then flash the latest firmware, if the problem remains, then for your case, test the miner with a different PSU.
4002  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Antminer S17 pro fixed Frequency and Voltage default firmware on: May 20, 2020, 01:14:49 AM

So this means the settings do get saved, but unfortunately for your particular case it doesn't stick for longer than 30 mins, did I get this right? you should consider vnish firmware (asic.to / awesome miner), those auto-tune every chip individually which is even better than tunning the whole chain, because in the end, the board that drops constantly could be doing so because of a single bad chip, what the firmware will do is tune that chip alone at a very low frequency and leave the rest of the chips at a higher frequency, that 2% fees might be justifiable in your situation.
4003  Local / التعدين / Re: في حال تم ترقية الاثريوم الى 2.0 ماذا اعدن ؟ on: May 20, 2020, 12:36:27 AM

1- انا دائما اشوف نايس هاش الاعلى رقما بالربح , جربت البرنامج سابقا ولكن اجهل الطريقه اكثر نزلت قبل في برامج مدمجه كثيره بنفس الوقت
كلايمور وفوينكس وكذا برنامج لو اسوي بنشمارك  يكرش اذكر شلت كل شي ونزلت كلايمور  فقط واشتغل طبيعي لانه بنشمارك يصير لعمله فرديه او برنامج فردي يضبط

لاتقم بتشغيل اي برنامج تعدين اخر مع نايس هاش, قم بتزيل Nicehash miner فقط لاغير, عند عمل Benchmark استعمل الرابط الموجود في الاعلى لاختيار الالقورتيمز المجدية فقط, لا داعي لان تضيع الوقت في عمل بنش مارك على عملات دخلها منخفض اصلا

استعن بهدا الفيديو https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkG9TStbhVo

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لكن انت قلت يعدن على العمله الاكثر ربحا فـ كيف احدد البرنامج للعمله الي اكثر ربح فيها ؟

لاتقوم انت بذلك بل البرنامج نفسه, كل ماعليك هوا اختيار اللوغارتمات التي تريد ان يختار البرنامج بينها وهوا يقوم بالتنقل بين تلك العملات بدون اي تدخل منك.


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وهل يمكن ان اعدن عملتان مختلفتان  بنفس الوقت ؟

لايمكن, يوجد dual mining ولكنه ليس مجدي ابدا ولا انصحك به

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هل راح يكون عندي 2 دولار بتكوين ؟

نعم سيكون في حسابك 2$ بتكوين, يمكن تحويلهم الى محفظة بتكوين خارجية.

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في حال بدت مع نايس هاش ماهي الرسوم

بناء على ماهو موجود في موقعم العمولة هي 2%  https://www.nicehash.com/support/mining-help/earnings-and-payments/service-fees-for-miners
4004  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: May 20, 2020, 12:16:18 AM
So chip / heatsink issue on most of units, and yet Bitmain claims if heatsink is loose or chip is burned that warranty for that board is voided, so sad.

Are you sure about this? assuming you haven't disassembled the miner the warranty is still valid no? I honestly never understood their warranty program, when I read how they offered to send technicians to the mining farms in china to fix their faulty 17 series and how was Jihan wu "begging those miners to give Bitmain a second chance with the S19" it looks like and for obvious reasons, the way they treat large farms is way different than how they treat the average joe like ourselves, I don't want to keep repeating this but I hope this serves a lesson to avoid the 17 series, and not buy any 19 series mining gear until reports show that they have a reasonably low RMA/failure rate.

Today one of my friends lost the last working chain on his S17, it would show 0 Asics, sometimes more, it became unstable and useless, he bought that gear for 4k back then, most certainly way too far from ROIing on that gear.
4005  Local / التعدين / Re: في حال تم ترقية الاثريوم الى 2.0 ماذا اعدن ؟ on: May 19, 2020, 06:58:12 AM
انا حاليا ميقا هاش 200 كيف احسب للدخل اليومي
للعملات الاخرى
يعني بعض المواقع يطلع حسبة بال
h/s
ماني عارف كيف احسب وانتقل

انت لا تمتلك 200 ميقا هاش, انت لديك 6 كروت amd اجمالي الهاش على لوغارتم ال ethash 200mh , مثلا على لوغارتم X16 ستعطيك حوالي 70 ميقا هاش (mh/s), على لوغارتم beam ستعطيك 87 هاش فقط (h/s), كل كرت لديه قدرة معينة تختلف من الغورثيم معين لاخر, افضل طريقة لمعرفة العملات المتاحة للتعدين بكروتك ودخل كل منها هي عبر الدخول لموقع Whattomine ,هدا مثال ل 6 كروت amd 580


ان كنت تريد عدم الخوض في كل هده التفاصيل, قم بالتعدين باستخدام Nicehash سوف يقوم جهاز بتعدين العملة الاكثر ربحا ويتم الدفع لك عن طريق البتكوين.


4006  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: May 19, 2020, 01:41:28 AM
Found the other board has a faulty chip, when I was cleaining it.. the chip falled down with the heatsink.

probably has a losen heatsink or a faulty chip somewhere

See that was an easy guess, in fact the T17e has a failure rate of 30%, the majority of that 30 % is the exact problem you have, so for everyone else reading this (probably in the near future) whenever you get a board showing 0 asic or temp-sensor issues, know that most of the time it's a chip/heatsink issue.

The good thing is that the chip you going to remove will have pre-tin solder on it, so you only need to heat it and you don't need any tin-tool for that, you can refer to this videoto get a better idea on how to replace the chip,
4007  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Antminer S17 pro fixed Frequency and Voltage default firmware on: May 19, 2020, 12:39:19 AM
I got this to work on my sick t17+.  It would always drop one board and run at 43th vs 64 th

I got it to use lower volts and the same frequency.

Would you please post the kernel log? were you able to actually save those settings even after a reboot or do they disappear like what happened with the S17 pro? the miner status page would show the frequency but it doesn't show the voltage, so to make sure the voltage setting was also saved and applied the kernel log would be the best place to get that piece of information.
4008  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Please vote for Bitmain to enable Low Power Mode for T17, T17E, T17+, S17E, S17+ on: May 19, 2020, 12:11:41 AM
The fact that Bitmain removed the underclock/overclock features on their latest S9s firmware tells me that they don't want miners to use those gears anymore but rather trying to force you to buy the new gears, with that being said I still voted yes knowing very well Bitmain doesn't give a damn about what people here think.

Meanwhile, I explained in this topic how to change the frequency and voltage on the S17pro, phill mentioned that the t17+ has the same hidden features although he did not update the status yet, but it looks like a few of the 17 series have these functions hidden, so if you don't want to use custom firmware, playing with those settings might be your best option.
4009  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: 🔥 اربح محفظة تريزور ت + ٥٠ دولار بتكوين Trezor T 🔥 on: May 18, 2020, 08:20:26 PM
شكرا لك على هده المسابقة .. سأختار رقم 2.. علما بأنني مشغول في هده الفترة وان حالفني الحظ قد اتأخر قليلا عن تجربة المنصة، لذلك ان كان هدا قد يخالف الشروط لا داعي لاادراج اسمي في المسابقة كي نتيح الفرصة للغير.

تحياتي
4010  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: May 18, 2020, 02:49:46 AM
but its very hard to prove or disprove these points scientifically. 

Indeed, there are many valid arguments, I still have a few cards to play, one is that halving most likely causes hashrate to drop and thus bitcoin becomes less secured and loses some of its value, you can't say that is wrong, it's technically right, but it's based on the assumption that people actually care about the security aspect of bitcoin which I doubt anyway, so I finally agree to one of the points you stated, we can't prove anything.

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I contend that bitcoin is not like any other market in the world including altcoin markets.

That's true, I am sure Bitcoin is very unique as is, I just don't think bitcoin as a market is any different because the same people who trade bitcoin, trade everything else, the human psychology dictates everything, the majority of bitcoin buyers buy it because it has a potential of growing in value and could increase their wealth, those who invest in bitcoin for the sake of it being an incredible invention probably don't make up a 10% of the investors.

Meanwhile, we are dropping nice and slow, it looks like 6-8% is doable for the next epoch.

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Current Pace:   95.6730%  (1784 / 1864.69 expected, 80.69 behind)
Next Difficulty Change:   between -4.3121% and -4.2575%

https://diff.cryptothis.com/
4011  Local / التعدين / Re: إنضمام و تراجع العمال on: May 18, 2020, 01:49:29 AM
المشكلة مع التشارت التي ارفقته انه ليس دقيق, يعني ان الطلعات والنزلات الموجودة فيه على المدى القصير يمكن ان تكون بسبب تاثير الحظ في سرعة ايجاد البلوكات, لانه لايوجد موقع مركزي يشمل هده البيانات وكل ماتقوم به هده المواقع هوا "تقريب" الارقام بما يتماشى مع سرعة ايجاد البلوك مقارنة بالصعوبة, للحصول على رؤية اوضح وادق يجب استعمال تشارت الصعوبة وليس الهاش ريت.

https://www.blockchain.com/charts/difficulty

النظرة العامة للهاش ريت انها دائما في ارتفاع على المدى الطويل حتى مع حدوث التصنيف وانهيار الاسعار يميل الهاش ريت الى الصعود (بتجاهل الفترات القصيرة التي تتخلل تلك التحركات), وهدا عائد الى سببين رئيسين.

1- كفاءة اجهزة التعدين تزداد بسرعة لابأس بها
2-التعدين يتجه لكونه نوع من التجارة الكلاسكية التي يكون فيها هامش الربح صغير جدا جدا جدا.


في الماضي, يمكنك ان استرجاع راس مالك من التعدين في شهر او شهرين, من ثم اصبح الموضوع يحتاج الى 6 اشهر, وبعدها 8 اشهر , هامش الربح يقل تدرجيا وفي المستقبل سيكون شبيه باي تجارة اخرى منافستها شرسة وهامش الربح لايتعدى 1-2% , لذلك انا اعتقد (شبه متأكد لاكون صريحا) ان الهاش ريت كل سنة سيكون اكثر من السنة التي سبقته حتى لو سعر البتكوين كان اقل في العام المقبل.
4012  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: *SCAM ALERT* www.dcx.eu on: May 18, 2020, 12:57:39 AM
until it reached 75C where my miners are overheating and shuts off

That's worse than the normal air cooling, my M21s run at about 75c when the ambient temp is well above 35c, there is a good chance you are doing something wrong, I mean even if the system was terrible, they shouldn't get this hot, have you inspected the pump?

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Anybody out there know how to deal with this problem, please let me know.

Nobody here would help you with that, probably the local police will be the best people to contact, although this is not an obvious scam, you received the product you paid for, but it didn't work as they promised,  so this is not a simple issue of you suing them for stealing your money, it will be a very long process, which might cost you more than what you paid.

You probably want to visit/call them and ask for a full/partial refund, or get them to send someone to fix the enclosure, it could be a very minor issue they could fix in an hour or so, don't curse them and be polite and consistent.

Please move this to scam accusation.
4013  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 255 blocks solved! on: May 18, 2020, 12:39:41 AM
Given that the new server hosting the mining pool has a 1 gigabit line, I'm curious to know how much network bandwidth a pool would need to operate reliably. There's a similar question in this thread but it was never answered.

Here is a screenshot from a comment i posted a year ago:



The average rx is 3.7kbps per miner, so safe to assume the pool needs 5bkps per mining instance/miner,  but that's only for the communication between the pool and the miner, the pool does a lot more than that, syncing with other nodes, downloading every block, mempool operations, those alone probably need more bandwidth than running a few EHs worth of miners.
4014  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: May 18, 2020, 12:09:47 AM
should I change the temp sensor..

Don't do that, it's very very highly unlikely that changing the sensor will fix anything, the board that shows 0 aasic probably has a losen heatsink or a faulty chip somewhere, if you think the cold start up is causing the issue then use a custom firmware, i think they have an option of warming up the chips that could help.

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?? or should I remove all the heatsinks and clean it.. and put the heatsinks again?

NO!! , removing a heatsink is not something you can easily do, you need a few tools, let alone removing all of them, you will need a few days to do that and then that might not fix the issue.
4015  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: May 17, 2020, 11:09:41 PM
(because demand stays constant)

On what bases? if demand stays constant then the halving should only allow Bitcoin to do +1.8% a year at the best-case scenario, there is no such thing as constant demand.

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You're chart clearly shows the acceleration of upward price movement after halving.

No such thing, the acceleration and the shift of the upward angle happens after the breaking the previous ATH not because of the halving, I have been playing with the chart for years, I have no intention to do this again just to prove my point, the chart is accessible by one, use the "Trend Angle" tool to measure the trend, or simply look at the size of the candles, what caused the fast large movements was always breaking the last known ATH, not the halving, nothing else, it's the market psychology, any market that breaks ATH moves really fast, the same thing will happen once we go past 20k, be it a month after the halving or a few years it will be no different.

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If we make ATHs in 2021 and a next super fomo top above $80k by the end of 2022, will you still dismiss halving as an actual fundamental driver?

If we do that, which is very likely, I will still think it happened because of the way every other market on planet earth works, not because of the halving by any means, again this is what I think, this is what the charts show, I could be wrong.


USA alone has printed 5-6 trillion since the epidemic happened.

That's a good reason why BTC could go up, certainly makes way more sense the halving.
4016  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: أريد معرفة آرائكم on: May 17, 2020, 03:43:29 AM
- ربح القليل من المال عن طريق شبكة البرق

سأكون واقعي نوعا ما, اعتقد ان المزيج مابين استعمال شبكة البرق وجني بعض الارباح من عقدة LN وافضل الطرق لضمان الحصول على حصة جيدة من ال routing  ستكون مفيدة وفي نفس الوقت مشوقة حيث ان اغلبنا لايمانع ربح بعض المال, والبعض كل هدفه من هدا المجال هوا الربح اصلا واعتقد ان المستخدم العادي لا يهمه استخدام Tor اصلا, ربما وجهة نظري تمتل الاعضاء الجدد او على الاقل الطبقة التي نفتقرها في هدا المنتدى وهيا كسب المال, المنتدى مليء بالمعلومات الثقنية ولا يأتي الا القليل للتفاعل معها, ولكن اينما وجد المال حظر الجمهور (للأسف) , هده مجرد وجهة نظري.
4017  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S11 Suddenly not working on: May 17, 2020, 02:57:22 AM
@mikeywith, the solutions were logical, maybe there was a problem in power supply that damaged the board. have you heard of something similar?

It's very unlikely that a PSU would cause damage to one board and not all three boards, after your last update, things became clear to me, you simply had a board with a bad chip (or a few bad chips which don't matter), when a board has a faulty chip sometimes running at lower frequency or even higher voltage brings it to life, so when you switch to lower-power-mode, the PSU feeds the hash board with lower voltage and the control board commands the board to work at a lower frequency, the board is happy and it mines on, however, when such symptoms appear, it means the board is bad and could fail completely at any given second, you might be lucky and get the board to work on LPM for quite some time but your chances are low plus it affects the hash rate of the other chains.

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i collected this board with some other malfunctioning boards from some T15 i have and sending to BITMAIN for repair.

Bitmain no longer supports their S11, so they won't fix it, you will only lose money paying for shipping, plus it's not worth it anyway, what I would do is get a trusted custom firmware that would give you control over voltage and frequency of each chain, set that bad board at very low frequency and let it mine until it dies, it's really not worth fixing the 7th board at these prices, at worst case scenario get rid of that board and call it bad luck, plus you should get used to that, I have yet to hear from someone who uses Bitmain gears and doesn't have a few hashboards sitting in the garage doing nothing.
4018  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: May 17, 2020, 02:05:07 AM
So its just a coincidence that these cycles happen almost like clockwork around 4 year periods?

I always hear about this 4-year cycles, but I can't find it in the chart, i also can't find any colloerations between the halving and bull markets, below is a monthly chart which contains about 10 years worth of data, the vertical blue lines are the halving dates, the numbers below are rounded up and not 100% accurate.



1st cycle, bull rally with no halving, we were mining a dozen of BTC a day and had no problem with how price was going up, a complete cycle of nearly 1.5 years of 340000% increase and drop of 93%

2nd cycle, 311000% up, and a downtrend of 85% total duration of 3.1 years.

3rd cycle, 10000% up 85% down a total of 4 years ( assuming we have already bottomed out and now are in a new bull cycle)

Notice how in the first cycle, no halving, the second cycle, we were in a bull rally for nearly a year prior to the halving, and another year post halving,

For the 3rd cycle, we were in a bull market for nearly a year before the halving and entered a sideways market right AFTER the halving, took us nearly a year to break the previous ATH.

Well, of course, anyone can conveniently make their own cycles to prove that the halving caused those bull rallies, but the way I see it, is that both previous halvings came right in the middle of a bull rally when bitcoin was going up in price, either way, did the halving help make those cycles a bit longer and higher? maybe, would things have been much different if there was no halving? probably not, if the halving came right in the middle of a massive bear market, would it change that market to bull? probably no.

Also, notice that first halving cut down 3600BTC a day when the total circulation supply at the point was just about 10 million, that means in a year we cut down an equivalent of 1314000 which is 13.14% of the total supply, in this recent halving it's only 1.8%,  also taking into account that the market now is a zillion times larger than back then, the effect will be even less.

I think you underestimate how narrative's work and drive demand...

I don't, really, I just don't believe that lack of supply increases demand, it doesn't work this way, I could make my own coin with a max supply of 3 coins, would that make it worth more than $9000 a coin? of course not, I do believe bitcoin will rise in price, we will have a multi-year bull rally, not because of the halving, simply because of an increasing demand and market cycles phycology which has nothing to do with the halving, look at every other market from stock to commodity, none of those have any halvings, and they have multi-years bull market every now and then.
4019  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: May 17, 2020, 12:31:52 AM
reasoning about why we should expect another multi year bull rally is spot on.

The problem with your argument is that the obvious fact of why we would have a multi year bull market actually has nothing to do with the halving, it is merely "market cycles", let's assume there is no halvings in bitcoin, and we started the first block with 6.25 bitcoin rewards, or even minded the 21m coins in one block, will that change the fact that bitcoin will have a multi year bull rally??
4020  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: May 16, 2020, 09:38:29 PM
Again, I am lost. Why does trade volume to total market cap matter? Does anyone think that 41 Billion in trade vol happened yesterday? Its fake...

While MOST exchanges report fake volume, it doesn't mean the most of the volume is fake, according to study/audit https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-nysearca-2019-01/srnysearca201901-5164833-183434.pdf , we know that at least the following 10 exchanges provide accurate volume

Binance > 536,016 BTC
Bitfinex >8,556 BTC
Kraken >19,765 BTC
Bitstamp > 12,929 BTC
Coinbase > 26,752 BTC
Bitflyer > 7,079 BTC
Gemini > 1,473 BTC
Itbit > 608.75 BTC
Bittrex > 3,142 BTC
Poloniex >5,089 BTC

Total = 621,410 BTC average last 24 hours volume.

Notice that volume is in BTC not USD, in USD it's about 6 Billion, and this ignores every other exchange ( a few hundreds of them) and based on the assumption that 100% of the other volume is fake, which we all know is not the case, mind you the last 24hrs volume has been pretty low, so in many days we do actually hit 40B probably only out of these 10 exchanges.

Trading volume matters, in fact, ask yourself, if not for Tether and all these exchanges, would bitcoin ever go past $100? certainly not, you can't count on OTC markets and a few nerds exchanging bitcoin for some pizzas and a few perks of certain online games, these global trading platforms are the reason why bitcoin is worth this much, in fact even the majority of bitcoin transactions go throw exchanges, people trade bitcoin more than they actually use it, on the grand scheme of things, the use of bitcoin as a payment method is close to nothing, this is the same thing with gold or any other asset, it gains the most of its the volume from trading, not by sitting in a cold wallet doing nothing, its a sad thing but that's reality, you know it is when a whale places a huge short order of bitcoin he doesn't even own, selling/shorting an imaginary future contract that can take bitcoin 30% down in a few minutes, and the same thing happens on the way up for obvious reasons, long story short, trading volume DOES matter.
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