Didn't work out for me yesterday, good thing I didn't back Fritz in the end (him winning first set of course helped me not do that as odds went badly).


Yeah, Nadal all the way for me, and at these odds? Even live, Nadal and Djokovic when down just too good to pass.

Not just 22 GSs, too, this is his 38th Wimbledon semi (so says BBC). Experience isn't the only thing to win the day but in his case, it's more than enough.

Injury v Injury, just hope there's no retire to ruin all our days.

Hup hup! Just saw the invite and accepted, Harko got ahead of me, the fast bastard. Just sent my dues so will update in the payment thread presently.

Once I see an update of the list of people paying (I'll do so by end of week) I'll go poking around to stir past participants. Awesome of Sportsbet and jeremypwr and co for putting up such a prize. BTC = 100k in 2023, right? And thanks to Hhampuz for putting up free slots (!).

Sounds precisely like how many of were trapped in the [insert Southeast Asian government name]coin empire.

Pensions are a huge ponzi that has been limiting withdrawals to retirees slowly over the past decades. Government bonds keep raising interest so people feel less bad about cash stuck in schemes, and some actually are convinced to buy into longer, deeper locks. But every time it gets to critical point, some other foreign government invests more (think of this as GS) to share the risk, while money printing slaps on more band aids.

No realistic rug pull happening in our lifetimes but everyone bleeds, just a game of who has more blood to let before they pack up and go (literally) or simply live miserably into oblivion or go off grid and return to monke in our vast forests. My remote village has suddenly been seeing more newcomers in past few years when it had actually been in population decline since the 1970s.

Not really active with UFC but had quite a number of good picks lately, both predicting and betting, funny what you find yourself doing waiting for footie to resume.

I see Welsh, notblox, and tokes, you're more active here than in football these days?

Right. This weekend, saw 2 or 3 clear favourites in this selection (for me this means odds better than 14/10). If there's anything I've learnt in sports with no draws, especially if on decision or sudden death (KO), 15/10 to 18/10 are simply not good enough odds.

The second thing I learnt also is that I'm shite at UFC so don't take my advice That's why I'm here for yours --  who's the best to back for an upset?

Who else hates Cluj?


Hands up here I had no idea where they're from (wish I could say I'm knowledgeable enough to know where Red Imps were from but I recognised them already from 2 or 3 seasons ago, they're actually a Gibraltar version of Sheriff, minus the money haha). Saw the red card on a guy with a Georgian name and I thought I was being smart thinking I got their name... but turns out they're from North Macedonia.


Didn't quite recall all of the odds, but yeah, certainly seems like all the favourites more or less took home wins. Qarabag was not the favourite, I do remember. Hibernians had me fooled at first (NOT, as it turns out the same as Hibernian from Scotland).

Been a few nice green slips for me at Wimbledon too, the upset/comeback picks are quite good. Really wish had more time to bet live too, miss out all the 0-2 down bets but no complaints.

Kyrgios, Nadal or Djoko has to be the next casualty, agree? No problem for me to put one bet each on Garin and Fritz, but I'll wait for Fritz to get above 4/1 if I happen to be able to live, for now Aussie killer Garin @4.54, see if he keeps earning me money.

@KTChampions ha I forgot you had that weird acca on the favs, think almost everyone in your picks saved you with comeback wins! Had some small successes myself, singles though and yesterday even tried an uncharacteristic tiny 3-legger with a 10USDT freebet win from the last 4-3-free (sportsbet), just need Halep to win today to book it!

LTU_btc has my money, TNS did really well last season too, but I knew something was going to give and it's on the first leg... Cluj was a solid 15/10 and I thought it was good value. 15 shots and couldn't score though, so the draw kills all my other legs. Malmo half time hope they hold on to the lead as I do have one other smaller ticket (freebet):


No one likes last season's conquerors of Real Madrid? Sheriff should make it at least to 3rd round, no?

Loads of drama in men's don't you just love it when it goes all the way?

Time for me to tune out but Djokovic's comeback (I'm not jinxing it am I?) should make for good reading later.


Yup, soon as Sinner won first set I took a live one on Djoko @1.46. I know I already have an outright on him but it looked really good value too for me.



Of course, had I seen him at 2 sets down I'd have bet no matter what -- should have been at least 3/1 eh?

It was years before I could mentally remove Carlsberg from the Liverpool association too actually, or Dunhill (cigarettes) from my now-defunct local club.

Things change and times change and people must evolve and move on.

Wondering now actually if this is restricted only to shirt sponsorship and if they'll allow less visible partnerships (like how Sportsbet partners on community and education) but I can understand the ethics behind it.

Here where I live now there's an immediate ban on influencers (not sure what that means) and former athletes to become ambassadors for casinos (7 new online casinos opened after Covid and they all took on ppl like Ronaldinho).

Small win, but yeah, must have been exciting for the guy, and I fancy his chances against Kyrgios too -- time for streaks to end and records to fall, right?

I did take a 15/1 against Nadal last night after first set so lost that one, but think I might also back Fritz the same way (live if down the first set).

Was actually going to do the same now against Djoko to sort of squeeze out some value but he might actually lose this first set... Sinner's really grinding it out!

Pretty cool. Surprised the company's been able to continue operating throughout all the mess media seems to have reported Venezuela being in (with exchanges, crypto companies and crypto itself all needing to be part of an authorised government list) unless CriptoAvila themselves are the government

Just saw they're still active too, just released what looks like an Antminer promo: https://www.instagram.com/criptoavila/


I'm really into visiting tiny niche museums in places where most are funded privately... real kooky stuff, incidentally the last two I visited were in Kazahkstan, loads of dino stuff.

You know I'm all Bitcoin and all that but there have actually been some countries that were going almost paperless in terms of money when Bitcoin was still a glint in Satoshi's eye. And what do you mean no one can know about transactions? Block explorer?

Also, if we're being technical, what do you think people were running economies on before they invented paper?

See, I can bring up contextless discussions too

Not watching (can't really) but wonder what the odds would have been on Garin after losing the 2nd set, huh? Slow start, provided at least a challenge on 2nd set and then tie break, seems like he's putting up some fight too on 4th set too, up 4-2 right now, been inching away since taking 2-0 lead. Least gives me hope ha.

Kyrgios though, in trouble or just wants to win things hard?

Singapore's too hot now I think, been a lot of public outcry since even last year on various crypto companies (exchanges, crypto projects, you know the shitcoin type), then Terra, now this. Suspect the Monetary Authority is going to swoop in and do audits on all the exchanges and lenders there pretty soon, at least internally.

Wonder also if the Chinese bank runs from last month have anything to do with this. I know they're not directly into crypto and the problems have been tied to fraud in development projects but someone had to finance all those guys who flew the coop in the China crypto exodus -- many of whom landed in Singapore.

It is, eventually. And all the people who simply kept their bitcoin in their own wallet and didn't lose it by gambling on platforms with unsustainable promises will be the ones who come out on top.
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Oh yeah, that's for certain. I meant that they took surefire bets on 100k in 2021 and still thought it would happen despite all the writing on the wall, thinking the bull would extend its overstay.

Still can't really understand the allure of 4-10% APY with all that risk, when Bitcoin already provides gains that outstrip that (only, over multi-year) without an iota of that risk.

Something obviously missed in the reports, and sounds more plausible, because to find the same amount of actual aurum that's on its own 50% more than what the entire world produces definitely sounds far-fetched.

Though, as philipma notes earlier, even if true, that gold spread out over 30 years (which is still pretty fast) won't do much to budge markets, given there already has been for years supply unable to meet demand.


Wait... so I'm not getting double my Bitcoin back from the secret bastard son of the late Sani Abacha?

@Trofo: Haha I think Klopp is just like most managers, absolutely human and absolutely some people and teams get to him (Pep and City, Simeone and Atletico, come to mind).

What he says isn't as solid as what club policy will evolve to be (FSG are hard to read really) -- and yeah personally I didn't think we'd ever pay for Salah, but there's a slew of data and experts club's hired to eke out cost-efficiency and I guess the numbers must tally.

The big buys and the big wages will run through those data again end of season and if they don't work out, we go back to the drawing board.

Oh and Jesus is a Gunner. Next Sterling I thought but suddenly Silva wants away too. Trouble in paradise?


That's a shame! Consider putting in picks way early, like I did for several rounds. Gut's pretty reliable if you're following the games enough, and you can always just follow bookmaker odds for 2/3 games ahead. I might even do like others have in the past and "sponsor" some free slots.

I have been in a self-imposed gambling slowdown (not break, just a lot less frequent and a lot lower amounts) for the past couple of months or so. Also not sure I'll resume "normal" levels in the new season. Real life also getting hectic and while I don't necessarily spend a lot of collective hours paining over my bets, they're still a sort of distraction that eats into my real life. Which has never been an issue until recently, taking on more responsibilities.


I really enjoyed his games for us too, he and Henderson (though latter not so much last season I felt), great at breaking up, setting rhythm, calming influence. Hendo's legs are clearly going though so our midfield is actually most problematic area now. The youngins trying to break through, none have really convinced me, Elliott maybe, Jones not so much, but you know they're young still.

Yeah, against team orders too apparently, but seems like he could sense the team wasn't at their best, many questionable decisions (and I can only know post-race since I don't hear audio when following the way I do). Funny that they fix their engine issue (for the race anyway) and then find a way to screw up decision-making.

You didn't say if you managed to actually take the Sainz bet you were thinking of?

I have a feeling you're right, if they win, it won't be tough. Incidentally, I was thinking of going against each of the favs today. Haven't seen such a lineup in a long time where there's such a clear favourite in every match in the day (in fact, the same for tomorrow).

Ended up just taking 2: Garin at over 5.5 and Kubler around 4.4. If I find my evening free, I might go against Nadal IF he wins the first set.

Gotta be ONE upset no?

Seems like there's at least one problem you forgot... to me at least. BlackHatCoiner details it and I simply sum it up as objective security. PoS is... subjective incentive. You can call it whatever you want. PoS certainly knows how to churn out the labels... delegated voting, block producers, federations, rotating validators, quadratic votes, treasuries, slashing, epochs, etc. They're still figuring themselves out like a kid who discovered Sartre after a break up (not me, friend of mine, of course).

Oh and what, Cardano solving centralised pools? You referring to the big Press Release they took out in 2021 to announce they've become 100% decentralised? How... decentralised of Cardano to get the community to collectively pay for sponsored press releases.

Energy efficiency has to take into account cost-benefit. I'm struggling to find the benefit of most PoS coins in terms of utility. If it's just cost and no benefit (other than speculation), that's not a matter of efficiency but a waste.

As franky1 points out (damn franky now I have to reference you), shitcoins have no utility. It's a bad word I hate to use but yeah, show me a pizza place taking ADA. In fact, show me a transaction you've made to pay for something someone sold you. I'm curious.