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4041  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ask about scurmrr on: August 16, 2016, 04:27:18 AM
Dear all,

I have one friend from facebook that join and invest with cloud mining scurmrr.com, he invite me to join scurmrr.com with him referral, he also show the proof of payment everyday, but untill now i fear after cldmine, hashocean and topmine as scam.

how about your oppinion about scurmrr.com, if this is good, i will join and invest about 2 btc.

thanks and best regards,

you have a fear after what happened with cld , topmine and hashocean !!! and you still want to put 2 btc !!!
man just listen to yourself and you will know that you are doing a wrong thing
the most popular " cloud mining sites " were gone , so now you are expecting to make money in a new one which have no repu at all !!

wow I didn't imagine that scamming people is just easy like that
4042  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How secure is Poloniex lending? on: August 16, 2016, 04:17:40 AM
crazyivan is right , poloniex lending is safe cause the money is only used for trading and the borrower can't withdraw them
so you can consider it a safe investment unless polo got hacked or shut down
and the rates these days are really low for btc , it was way better previously
but if you are holding an alt and you want to grow it without bothering with trading then you can go for it , cause the alts rate is good when there are some pumps
4043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: August 16, 2016, 04:09:02 AM
Took a massive hit on SafeDice today 1BTC is down to 0.83573261BTC

I like that 1BTC is over 1% of their bankroll so anyone gambling will have a big impact on my bankroll investment. However, the 0.5% house edge makes the swings huge.

expect a lot of those swings when you own more 1% of the bankroll with only 0.5% house edge
I mean for sure in the long run this 0.5% will pay you off , but maybe you should choose a different site !!
have you checked bitvest for example , the edge there is over 1%
4044  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: August 14, 2016, 08:46:07 PM
this thread is exactly what I was hoping for , so good luck with that mate
those sites are solid , and they don't need to scam investors money cause they are already making tons
so let's all keep positive here and hope for the good
4045  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: August 14, 2016, 08:37:19 PM
I was introduced to gambling when I was under 18 , but not in btc sites cause at that time I didn't know about btc
but since the beginning roulette and other casino games didn't attract me , only poker did
so I was registering in every poker site that have a free bonus and tried to ran the bonuses up
I miss the old days  Grin
4046  Economy / Gambling / Re: ◥◤ NitrogenSports ◢ Largest & Most Trusted BTC Sportsbook ◣ OlymPICKS Promo ◥◤ on: August 12, 2016, 11:49:39 PM
hey nitro , is there any chance that you will change your payout structure in your tourneys 
yesterday I noticed that you have a different structure than all the other poker sites , when there are 9 players only 1st and 2nd will share the prize while in other sites it's for the top 3
also yesterday I guess there was like 24 players in a tourney and only top 3 get paid
and if you set your breaks to XX:55 instead of XX:00 this would be much better , cause most sites do this
4047  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: SPORTSBETTING : Not for everyone? on: August 12, 2016, 03:05:25 AM
sportsbetting is overrated by people here , I mean it's for sure fun to bet on matches that you are going to watch for more thrill
but people think that they have better chances in sportsbetting , but sportsbetting is kinda like poker
if you are good then you can make money but if you aren't good then probably it's better to play a casino game and hope for the good

But still for some pro player they can manage to get some winning through sportbetiting because sport betting is really easy for them to play and there is no house edge on them. They are just playing only with odds and most of pro players manage to win it just by collect more information on how much each games will be played

you said it buddy " pro play " and in my post I meant the majority of people not the ones who are really good
people tend to love sportsbetting cause it looks like it's easy to predict , like you can pick Barcelona in any game but in order to have profit in the long run this isn't simple like that
honestly I find achieving profit in poker in the long run is way easier than achieving that in sportsbetting
4048  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does Skill Work? on: August 12, 2016, 02:36:30 AM
I think blackjack is not base on strategy its more base on luck.. 
Or almost all are need luck not only strategy if you have a strategy it won't work without luck.. it needs also luck..
Its not all base in strategy.. you will never win even you have a strong strategy without luck..

blackjack is a -EV game , but skills can definitely reduce the house edge
for example some newbies may hit when they have 16 and the dealer showing a deuce , and this is kinda terrible move
you can't win always , but you can reduce the house edge when you have some understanding for the game
4049  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Panning to Invest in Genesis Mining, What You Say? on: August 10, 2016, 03:11:30 PM
Thank you all. I conclude

  • Cloud Mining is no more profitable (especially on genesis mining).
  • Even if they have lifetime contacts we can't make much ROI.
  • Although there are many Scams in the name of cloud mining, Genesis mining is actually mining but now worth it.
  • I should either hold my balance in bitcoins or directly trade in return of alternative coins. Mining is not for me (newbie in mining).

Thanks again, now I am planning to hold 75% in bitcoins and rest 25% in Ether.



glad that you have realized that , cause as many said even if Genesis is legit it doesn't worth the try at all
so yeah buying and holding is way better than putting your money in a cloud mining site
4050  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Soccer Manager with Cryprocurrencies on: August 10, 2016, 03:06:33 PM
if you can really do it then this would be great for sure , my friends used to play this in a local sites but it was for free and top 10 gets laptops and other stuffs
when it comes to bitcoin then for sure I will try it , I would even play some games like monopoly if they are offered in btc Smiley
but I hope that you have a good budget for that
4051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: SPORTSBETTING : Not for everyone? on: August 10, 2016, 02:59:01 PM
sportsbetting is overrated by people here , I mean it's for sure fun to bet on matches that you are going to watch for more thrill
but people think that they have better chances in sportsbetting , but sportsbetting is kinda like poker
if you are good then you can make money but if you aren't good then probably it's better to play a casino game and hope for the good
4052  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the Odds. on: August 07, 2016, 10:44:25 PM
when it comes to -EV games usually people play what they enjoy the most , otherwise we would see people leaving roulette and playing dice for example
it seems that a lot of people doesn't care about the odds , they just want to enjoy the stay
4053  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loopholes on: August 07, 2016, 10:17:56 PM
I seem to remember that adam guerbez guy putting up an insane loophole that was allowing people to get 0.5 btc with no risk. proper loopholes only have a finite amount of life and the chances are most people wouldn't share them with you.

please don't tell me that you believe that guy , he is just a referral junk
his primedice videos are the main proof , he only uploads videos where he ends winning and he says that he wins everytime with his methods
of course some newbies believe him and use his referral link then booom suddenly they have no money

4054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loopholes on: August 07, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
Somehow, Yes, Since most new accounts are most high chance of wining on dice game. This is based on my experience and you whenever you make  a new account, it must be on another ip address since i think this is where gambling site detect if people are making alot of account.

this doesn't make sense , saying that is basically saying that dice sites are rigged
if you have an account with previous 1,000,000 bets or you have just started and you are about to make your very first bet the odds won't change
this is one of the many fallacies in the gambling world
4055  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining with low invest on: August 06, 2016, 06:13:22 PM
it's not profitable , and with 20$ I think you can only join the ponzi ones
if you want my advice try to risk this 20$ in something else , you already have a low capital risk to lose so why don't you lose it while trying to learn something like trading or playing poker
learning one or both of them is very +EV in the long run

With your recommendations, he may as well invest in a Ponzi (that's probably more profitable than your suggestion of gambling).
Hashnest theyre probably quite good and maybe BW for small investments? With more than $20 id be interested to know what us "a good investment" that cannot be done with an amount less than that?

he may make money by throwing his money in a ponzi , but I suggest him to learn something that he can constantly make money
poker isn't 100% gambling , there is a skill and you can make money by playing it unlike putting your money in a cloud mining
his capital is low , that's why I suggested him to learn something with it and hope for the good
learning is the best investment , and even if you are a millionaire you shouldn't start playing poker with a million dollar bankroll
you have to start from the bottom and beat each level while you are learning the game

also you shouldn't make two posts in a row in the same thread
4056  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: won $3600 at black chip poker on: August 06, 2016, 05:34:02 PM
well here's the fucked up story: Last Saturday I won $3800, since I deposited just 48 hours before, I had to wait another 24 hours to request a withdraw and I requested a withdraw on Sunday morning, on Monday I couldn't login to my account. Speaking with the support they said they moved me (and all Israeli players) to a different site under the same company - pokernuts.eu. During the week I spoke with support several times and they said my withdraw request was approved. Today I spoke with them again and they said it was rejected because of the transfer to the new site and the money will be in my account during the following week! The new site that they moved me to is still in beta stages I guess. Their withdraw isn't working yet and in any case they don't have withdraw to bitcoin, they don't even have a withdraw to someone that didn't make a deposit first. So now I don't have my money and when it gets to my account I can't withdraw it untill I deposit first. This is unheard of!!! I'm waiting for my funds to arrive, I'll deposit $20 and withdraw the all amount and will never play at black chip poker or pokernuts or any other venture this company have, ever again!

BE WARNED.

well being in the middle east was always a problem when it comes to gambling sites , but it's weird that they are delaying the withdrawal
they should pay you and then ask you to move to the new site
I play on ACR and I live in a nearby country , and all my withdrawals work fine
you should wait and keep trying with their support , cause there is nothing you can do
4057  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining with low invest on: August 06, 2016, 05:28:34 PM
it's not profitable , and with 20$ I think you can only join the ponzi ones
if you want my advice try to risk this 20$ in something else , you already have a low capital risk to lose so why don't you lose it while trying to learn something like trading or playing poker
learning one or both of them is very +EV in the long run
4058  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨[SELLING-BUYING BTC @preev+-%] Okpay, PM, Payeer,PP🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: August 04, 2016, 04:40:27 PM
hey zazarb , I want to exchange exactly 0.041 btc for PerfectMoney please pm me the deal details
I will send my btc first

EDIT : the deal is done , smooth and fast
also the fee isn't high , thanks a lot zazarb
4059  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: News Cloud mining service: BITMINISTER Scam or NOt? on: August 03, 2016, 04:19:45 PM
now I hear that bitminister isn't paying anymore , but when it started it was a good (ponzi) if you aren't greedy
cause they have an option to take your money back whenever you want , but at the end of the day there is no perfect ponzi
and people tend to let their money ride and never set plans that the site may disappear in the very next day

What do you mean with this "its good if you are not greedy"??  Investment doesn't have to do anything with ponzi or greed! If you go to bank, and you have 10000$ to invest, would you invest 10$ because you are not greedy and spend 9990$, and than you will be so happy when you get every month 1 cent because you are not greedy??

This is ponzi, and nobody should waste money like this.

did you see me mentioning the word " invest " or " investment " Huh
I meant that bitminister had an option that you can take your money back whenever you want , unless they scammed and stopped paying of course
they are giving 3% a day , so if you just put your money for 5 days you can take back your money with an extra 15% but most people tend to let their money ride and that's why most people lose money in ponzis
I'm not saying that ponzis are good , but bitminister was better than most of the ponzis by offering that
4060  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: News Cloud mining service: BITMINISTER Scam or NOt? on: August 03, 2016, 04:02:24 PM
now I hear that bitminister isn't paying anymore , but when it started it was a good (ponzi) if you aren't greedy
cause they have an option to take your money back whenever you want , but at the end of the day there is no perfect ponzi
and people tend to let their money ride and never set plans that the site may disappear in the very next day
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