This time, Coinbase makes good things by preventing the customer from sending funds to hackers. I hope that more twitter users will be aware of this, so they don't need to send the money. If Coinbase can do another thing like this, people will think that Coinbase wants to protect their customer from hackers, which can be a good promotion from Coinbase.
Indeed it is a good thing, but these measures are a band-aid solution to a growing problem. This will only make these scums make a counter measure. This is a step though which is nice. |
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99% scams but 1% true and yes, they can be found. However, what I found out is that most donīt reject orders for celebtrities, politicians or otherwise exposed people. Not sure if fake or not, but that site I stumbled upon also offered options for the way the victim shall be passed on. Not sure if it was real though, but prices for an average person were around 50K USD. A broken leg or some bludgeoning were available for about 10K. Again could have been fake but it sounds "reasonable".
The largest price for a head for a hitman is 10k dollars, the so called political assasination are conducted by conspirators that does not like that politician. Hitman for hire on the net is very hard to find because they are marketed as urban legends. |
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You know, both of you have a point, What he was about to point out is that, there are actually newbies that don't know anything about these things or what they should do to start. While your point is, they should gather the information that was spread by those people who had the experience before in such a scam. He just worried about those newbie people that can't take action on their own since they don't know what to do. It is not about tolerating them but giving them a guide to avoiding them from getting scam. Why treat them like they were born yesterday, these newbies should be able to think for themselves. Why treat them like mindless zombies, if they are new to bitcoin that does not that their minds was on reset. It is just a wonder to me how these fools fall for it. By the way, isn't being a newbie the time where you should be the most cautious? |
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You may be right about the scam method used being a old one but remember there are lot of people that doesn't know about some things. You're very harsh and this thread is very unnecessary at this moment because it looks like you're in support of the damage done to the victims. Not all of them is going to learn their lessons anyway but we should watch out for anyone we know with a ponzi mindset. Why tolerate the fact that they are not going to learn their lesson? Are you trying to ignore these victims by letting it slide and that you are not a victim? When will these scams get your attention? When you are affected or someone you know is? It's funny how you make an excuse because it is rather convenient for you because you are not affected. By the way, this thread is a necessary discussion, you just felt attacked that you want this to close, I try to understand other people's perspective in the matter, most disagree but that is a good thing because I am putting up an issue too taboo for many. Also, these so called people who got scammed were knowledgeable about bitcoin, these are functioning adults and the fact that they fall for a scam that is brimming with red flags is very frustrating. My words might be harsh which is okay because sometimes people should be reminded that they are wounded by rubbing salt in their wounds. |
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Are you for real? Dude, letting it slide will never make a difference. You tolerate their naivete and that makes them still the same, learning their lesson in this day is not enough, we have to hammer it in their skulls because people does not care anymore when someone educates them in the traditional way, speaking about the dangers of scams and the different types of scam will not make it, let them wallow in their mistakes and be reminded of their naivete. |
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I have been a victim of several scams in the past and I can tell you that you should burn your fingers several times, before you start questioning "easy" money. A lot of these scams are very sophisticated and cunning and even the most intelligent person can fall for these scams. The long cons are the most difficult to spot, because they draw you in with regular "rewards" or payouts and just when you feel comfortable and when they gained your trust, they do a 360 and they are gone with your money.  There are a lot of desperate people out there, so let's not judge them... right. I think you meant 180 because if not then they will come back at you (figuratively). These cons you are saying sure are elaborate but they need to have a charismatic personality for their cons to work against these smart people, sadly the scam that I posted is about the dumbest and oldest trick in the book. |
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Don't laugh at them OP, you never know when the tables will turn and you'll be the one who loses money.
I agree that doublers are among the dumbest scams right after the nigerian prince but there's a lot of older people out there who are new to cryptocurrencies and don't spend all day in the Internet like some of us here. Let's hope the first time they're scammed they'll lose very little and treat it like a valuable lesson because they will get scammed at some point and lose money.
I am not a hypocrite, if I ever get myself become a victim of any of these scams then I will gladly accept getting my ass handed to me, I know that the words I used were harsh but in this day and age, we tolerate naivete because we are not the one affected, we see this daily but let it slide because we see it as not our problem, if my words hurt these naive fools that have fallen for these scams then so be it but I also hope that itt will resonate a lesson. Again, I do not excuse myself as someone righteous, I have tolerated it too but not anymore. |
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In my opinion all can be victims of scams, usually people who do not think first before acting and people who want to make money
in an instant. What is surprisingly typical is that there are many around us, so scammers will do everything they can to target people
like that. So don't be easily attracted to offers that are to be good to be true, we must be able to think smart and realistic.
Not everyone actually can be a victim of scam, if you know how to think for yourself and you are knowledgable about scams then the chances are likely low that you will get scammed, always remember to not take everything at face value in the Internet unless you really know who you are talking to in real life that is, we should not forget that these scammers are desperate too. |
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People that send the money believes a lot in the Twitter handlers that posted. For instance a strong follower and believers of Barack Obama will take his tweet about giveaway serious and might have no reasonable doubt not to send the money. The hackers don't generally select the account but specifically go for account that people hold trust in them. If not, I believe they would have target accounts such as Donald trump page. I strongly believe everyone deserve to be happy and whoever send money should get their money back if the hackers are apprehended
That is also another problem, people becoming sheeps, they blindly follow these icons even though these said icons do not even know them, these zealotry has been plaguing us, and I am not a killjoy when it comes to following people but to follow them without ever questioning or even a hint of skepticism is outrageous. It is okay to have your idols but to become a mindless stan that will do every bidding is something, couldn't believe people like that exist. |
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Just imagine, many noobs might be reading our discussion at this point and they might have come to know how doubling is scam. Prevented from scams!  laughing and ridiculing a person,that lost his/her savings is just cruel.
I hope that this discussion helps. Borrowing John Doe's words from the movie Se7en, if you want people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention. |
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Every person, including you, is pathetic and gullible to some degree. Why do you draw a line that decides who deserves sympathy and who doesn't, and why should anyone care where you draw that line? Everyone deserves some amount of sympathy. Where I'm from, we call someone with no sympathy "asshole".
First of all, the fact that you posted on these topic meant you cared, could've ignored it until this faded into obscurity. It is okay that I am called an asshole but atleast I said what should have been said, we tolerate the fact that these people's excuse is that they did not know that it was a scam, as if Elon will double your money if you give him money first, isn't that a red flag? The sympathy part might not be properly worded, it was the first word that came to my mind. |
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Again, granted that they are victim, but what if they got goofed the second time around, will you still not blame them, also why would you trust a personality in Twitter without a hint of skepticism. These fools that are so called victims are functioning member of society and you say that they shouldn't be blamed, why do they get just a slap on the wrist. These are also the people that makes me lose hope in educating people to prevent scams. |
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While I think it's really ridiculous how people could fall for such obvious scams, come on dude. They already got scammed. That itself should be enough damage to them to teach them a lesson. Laughing at them and ridiculing them? That's totally totally unnecessary. Why not try to educate them instead?
P.S. Work a bit on your writing. That's a huge block of text.
Granted that they got scammed, shouldn't that experience make them become more smart and skeptical in the traitorous lands of cyberspace. But if these were to happen the second time then that is not something I myself could not let go, they did not learn from their mistake so they should be ridiculed and laughed at. Sorry if my writing is vomit inducing, I am on phone so I do not have the time to edit the writing that much.  |
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In my opinion these people that got their money scammed should receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these
The two bolded parts of your statement are contradictory. People usually get into crypto after they hear how someone got rich over it or that you can use your PC to "make money". It's a quite deceiving perspective and many are fooled by it, so a "send your BTC, we'll double it!" scam isn't too far fetched for a newcomer - especially if greed is also in the game. I wouldn't necessarily say newbies are to blame, I was one as well and I did also think in the beginning that BTC is a money-making machine. these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it.
Whoa, now I think you're kinda exaggerating.. Come on, use these words to describe maybe the hackers, not their victims. This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?
Humans are greedy and a deceiving perspective doesn't help at all. Ransomwares are also very old scams but surely still are very effective. The average person opening up Elon Musk's Twitter profile for the first time may not even consider that these hacked posts are actually scams. All you know is they are trusted billionaires "willing to make this world a better place". - It was a typo, I am sorry
- With so many people that falled for this doubling scam, I think they deserve some beration because this is an old school trick, people that educate people about scams are losing the good fight because idiots stil fall for it.
- Any sane person will not trust someone that easily, even if they are the savior of humanity, people need to have a sliver of doubt so they will not become sheep, regarding ransomwares, companies should impose stricter rules for employees using the time for work for leisure purposes, most ransomwares breach through unknowing lazy employee using the work time for their personal time.
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Recently, twitter accounts of famous people have been hacked and they all posted something in the line "send 1000$ and I will double it". This is the oldest trick in the scammers bible, and wouldn't you know it people fall for it. Yes the hacks should be condemned and the hackers should be apprehended because they are scamming innocent people, before we all burn these hackers in stakes we also should address the fact that these so called innocents are still falling to these thing. In my opinion these people that got their money scammed shouldn't receive any help because they are too blinded by the riches the scammers promised them, I have seen a lot of scams and this victims of bitcoin doubling scam should be ridiculed and laughed at because they have fallen for these, I am standing by that opinion because most of these victims are functioning members of the society, they are not your run of the mill old people getting scammed by tech support scammers, these so called innocent victims are not senile, so in my opinion they should not receive sympathy because they are pathetic and gullible, these makes the work of people who are trying to educate people about scams less effective because no matter how much effort they put in, these pathetic gullible losers still fall for it. This is just a rant about the recent twitter doubling scam, I was watching Crit1kal and as he continue to talk about these I felt a seething rage not for the scammer but for the victims because these is the oldest trick in the book. Feel free to disagree with me but I will stand with my opinion, can't help but to laugh at these victims falling for that. These fiasco should also be a lesson to not take things on the Internet at face value, if you are a high-functioning member of the society then ask yourself why would they give me these x amount of bitcoin/money and why should I send a bitcoin/money first?
Edit: Typo
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It might be overlooked and not to denigrate the lives lost during the pandemic (may they rest in peace) but the air pollution index was reduced, this meant that the carbon foot print we are contributing is reduced dramatically, I hope that these will help make countries and industries realize the effects of air pollution and its contribution to global warming and make them switch to renewable and environment friendly energy sources and if they can't do it, atleast create a stricter regulation on these existing pollution causing energy sources.
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Many investors are really serious about bitcoin investment, that is really good and give other investors an extra safety while investing, as there is a loyal group of enthusiasts behind it.
It's the proof investors are thinking about bitcoin on long run, even if they have to pass their coins to the next generation, their inheritors, without using it during their lifetime. On the other hand, it doesn't help to increase bitcoin usage as currency, what can also affect the currency, but in this case it affects negatively...
That is a good thing but if you were to put it in a practical stand point, wouldn't they benefit from it, yes if the prices were to go skyrocket but to think that they are willing to hold if it will not skyrocket is impractical, imagine this, if you are sustaining your daily needs through bitcoin then you can't help it but spend some even if the prices are down, to utilize it more, why not have a fiat for daily needs and use your holdings in trading or invest it in crypto businesses, in turn the money will grow because even if you are holding it because you are circulating it in the cyber economy. Think about the choices you can do, holding is not practical anymore in my opinion. |
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Edi ang ibig sabihin nyan is mayroon pa ding funnel yung mga terorista para sa pondo nila kasi nga hindi sakop iyon ng batas. Kung wala ka naman ginagawa na masama para sa ating bayan di ka naman dapat matakot diba? Kung legit ka na may ari ng account at hindi naman ito compromised status, walang mangyayaring red tagging. Para lang ito sa mga taong konektado sa terrorist group na may fundings na galing sa anonymous person. Makakatulong din ito upang magkaroon ng transparency ang gobyerno sa mga transactions na papasok at lalabas bawat tao.
May flaw sa argument mo na bakit ka matatakot kung inosente ka, isipin mo paano kung tinarget ka ng mga corrupt na pulis? Hindi ba nakakabahala kasi pwede nilang manipulahin yung batas para may anggulo sila sayo, aaminin ko maganda ung framing sa batas pero isipin mo yung mga taong nag-eenforce nito, pwedeng pwedeng baluktutin. |
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Maganda yung idea ni OP about having a website na shoshow ng mga available sites, stores na pwede ang cryptocurrency as payment. For the mean time, ang makikita natin madalas ay mga small business kagaya ng sari sari store, madalang ang gasolinahan, restaurant, at iba pa. Nangangahulugan ito na papausbong pa lamang ang mga business na tatanggap sa crypto, kaya kung susuportahan natin sa pamamagitan ng advertisement gaya website, mas magiging mabilis ang paglaganap nito.
Maganda din siguro na iapply muna sa ecommerce ang transactions ng cryptocurrency, sa tingin ko lang, mas angkop ang ecommerce dahil sa panahon ngayon, ang transactions ay thru delivery.
Mahirap mag maintain ng ganyang klase ng website, lalo na dito sa Pinas kasi basura ang internet speed, ang popular ngayon ay yung gcash, coins.ph or kahit anong app na pang online transaction, yung status ng crypto dito sa bansa is hanging on a balance, kaya wala masyadong pumapatos na big shot ay dahil unti lang ang may alam sa cryptocurrency dagdag mo pa na maliit lang ang community ng cryptocurrency sa Pinas, mahirap pero sana may mangyaring innovation kasi nakakalungkot na lagi tayong behind sa technology kasi hinihila tayo ng gobyerno natin. |
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