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Eric, how is the auction going? Is the plan still to sell the site?
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legit tax from alcohol and cigarettes is needed by Gov.
In some 3rd country tax from both stuff is the biggest income for their Gov.
Just because the government can make money from taxing it doesn't mean it should be legal. I'm all for legalization, I just don't think that particular argument is sound. The government could make a lot of money from selling "slapping licenses" too that allow you to slap anyone without repercussion. That doesn't mean that's why slapping should be legal. |
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Yes, it's all supply and demand and each of those is comprised of many complicated variables. Speculating on all the variables doesn't seem very fruitful, but I suppose that's not going to stop anyone from doing it.
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I cant believe this is happening. they left me in a shitty position. I feel bad for all the investors.how can you guys do this to us
I hope you think twice in future, when advertising an anonymous casino. how can you guys do this to us
He is your mother? No He is your father? No He is your brother? No So he is not caring you. Really ? How do u know Stunna wont vanish in the thin air tomorrow with your funds on PrimeDice ? If u r into BTC gambling business, U gotta TRUST the anonymous. So, please STOP being hypocrite for a certain demise. stunna don't have an "investment" option that i'm aware of !  Should I laugh at U ? It is a requirement to deposit at PrimeDice before a player can play (I'm not considering the 2000 Satoshi faucet here). At any point of time, there is a huge unknown amount stored at PrimeDice which Stunna can run off. Where does the question of investment come over here ? Moral of the story: Stunna needs to escrow funds with dooglus to run PrimeDice. Else Stunna needs to be doxed before he run off with our fund. If you don't trust Stunna, don't leave a balance there. Deposit, play, withdraw. That way he can only run off with your coins if it's in the very small window where you have a balance there. |
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So wouldn't all this scamming lead to an opportunity for someone to establish a business just being an escrow service for sites like this?
I don't know the exact details of how it would work, it's for someone smarter to figure out. But the site owner would not have access to the investment funds and therefore couldn't run off with them. In order to prevent the escrow agent from being the one who scams (instead of the site owner), he would have to be publicly identifiable, which if he's running a legit business, shouldn't be a problem for him. But there would have to be legal remedies if he ran, which means he would have to establish a legal business, registered with some government jurisdiction, so that he could be held legally accountable if he stole any money.
These websites then would have to turn over funds to the escrow agent (or better yet, send directly to him), who would publish details on how much he is holding in cold storage so everyone could verify the "invested" amount matches the cold storage amount guarded by the escrow agent. The site owner would not have access to these funds. In fact, large withdrawals would have to be handled by the escrow agent upon verification for the withdrawal by the account owner playing on a site, and the site owner verifying that the identity of the person requesting is correct. It would slow down withdrawals perhaps, but the added security would be worth it.
Then any site that doesn't use this service would have trouble attracting investors, because they're practically screaming that they're not willing to take any steps to prove they're legit.
Like I said, the details would have to be hammered out by someone smarter and more familiar with how escrow works, but I'm a bit surprised that there's still all these sites hawking investing after this community has been burned so many times.
In any event, this is something to think about. The current setup clearly isn't working.
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1.75x - - - 1.28x - - - 1.06x - - - 1.60x - - - 1.36x - 7,737 -7,737 (+0.11) 1.03x - 1,137 -1,137 (+11.37) 1.06x - 1,137 -1,137 (+11.33) 1.52x - 1,137 -1,137 1.65x - 37 -37 1.08x - 3,337 -3,337 ^^REALLY? --I'M CALLING SCAM Apparently, you have a history of losing money on every site and calling it a scam. The more likely explanation is you're really bad at gambling. Maybe you should stop. |
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With the site currently on auction, what is the status of the signature campaign? Will everything function as normal at the end of the month, will the campaign be truncated/aborted?
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I'm assuming something unforeseen came up recently that is prompting this sale, since it seemed like the site was just beginning to take off. Care to share or is it a private matter?
Yeah, some rather personal things have come up today which pushed my hand. And right now I need a bit more stability and less stress. One mistake I made early on was to be too open with people as well as use my name to back the integrity of the site. This has been met in kind with scamming, theft, extortion, threats and harassment. For the last two days, I haven't been able to really use the internet at home due to most likely one of my skype contacts leaking my IP address to DoS my home connection. Now my, and my families full details have put out there publicly with threats against it. I simply can not be involved in this world anymore -- or safely hold onto an ever growing bankroll of untraceable coins that exceed the value of my life in this part of the world. I also find myself holding onto a bankroll that is way to small to support the bets that happen on the site. When ever I lose money, I fear I'm going to go bankrupt. When ever I make money, I have 80% of the player base screaming vitriol about the site being a scam (it's a giant feedback loop, as everyone experience the same thing) I have every intention of helping the new owner take the site to its full potential, it's incredibly rewarding seeing people play and love what I created (just as i was writing this, i see someone reviewed the site: http://bit-vortex.com/reviews/moneypot/ which make it feel all worth while) -- and by no means will drop my baby now, which is why I'm offering 1 month of my time to help a seamless transition. It's just that I no longer want to own this site. Well, this is why we can't have nice things. We get a novel game which is being run honestly, and some jackwagon ruins it for everyone. Amidst all the scammers and their sites (ED, DB are two that come to mind), we have people harassing someone who isn't running a scam. Way to go guys! [Slow clap] With a small starting bankroll and razor thin margin, I understand your apprehension with the variance. As we've seen, lesser folks faced with a similar scenario opted to cheat the players to guarantee their profit. I hope someone with a bigger bankroll (and stronger stomach) and your commitment to running the game honestly buys your site and continues it in the tradition you've established. |
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Has anyone made an offer on the site?
Fuck no lol In other news: Appears Dice.Ninja pulling some "ninja moves". And Moneypot is trying to sell their site for some reason that probably has to do with DMF's involvement in their site! Exciting day. Who is DMF? |
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Wow, this feels like it's coming out of left field, especially since I like the game and the transparency of ownership. Seemed like a real asset to the community. Can you provide any details about what is prompting such a drastic reversal?
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Hey everyone, the site's gonna be down for a few hours while I import some more math into my math db. It's low on math. I'm also adding an index to the `input` column of my sha256_hashes table which should speed things† up. † The math So do you have two accounts or whats going on here? That was someone being "funny." The only updates you'll see that are official in any way will come from espringe's account. |
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this website is closed now or closing ? i lost almost 0.1 BTC in this site this site is scam
Well yes, this site was scamming, but just because you lost doesn't mean it was due to the scam. It may seem like a distinction without a difference, but the fact that you lost is not evidence of a scam. |
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If the drugs are legalized, the prison population will be reduced by more than 75% and the violent crimes will decrease by more than half. Now... who doesn't want that to happen? The organized crime gangs...
And the prison industry complex is benefiting from the increase prisoners also. A for-profit prison system is a scourge of a "free" people. There are some limits to where the free market should be allowed to go, and imprisonment is one of those limits. |
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In the chatbox, 'I' looks like 'l'.
I wouldn't be surprised if the house edge is more than 10%.
https://www.moneypot.com/statsConsidering the current profit margin is 0.42%, I'd say you're off by a factor of 24. |
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<DoogIus> Eric pm? <Steve> @Cod3r when the site was on heroku dooglus was given access <Cod3r> Eric needs to come here and help us eliminate that possiblity <Steve> so he could verify that the deployed code matches the code on github <Cod3r> Dooglus used to own 40% shares of this site <Steve> and you can audit the code on github yourself <Cod3r> he cannot be trusted <Steve> dooglus managed 60k BTC for investors <Steve> without issues <Cod3r> It doesnt neccessarily mean he won't cover for Eric <Steve> well yeah, you can't prove that a person behaves as expected  <Steve> if you mean that <DoogIus> \PrivateMsg Eric Eric I have the new math db - its ready to deploy when you want. Higher frequency low crashes, I modded it so the players shouldnt notice it too much - but our edge will be between 11-12% factoring our player bots. Is that math ok with you?<DoogIus> shit <Steve> i wonder why the site is allowing Dooglus and dooglus <Cod3r> Holy shit <hypron> is eric on? <Cod3r> Is this legit? <DoogIus> why am i not blue <DoogIus> steve? <Steve> because you're not dooglus <DoogIus> my private msg command fucked <hypron> lol <DoogIus> calling eric <Cod3r> interesting... <hypron> https://www.moneypot.com/user/DoogIus<hypron> huh <hypron> wut <hypron> all of the user pages are broken <Cod3r> I'm leaving. I have a lot of work to do <DoogIus> my account isnt displaying right im not modded and eric isnt answering - if he shows up steve have him call me please jesus <hypron> wait <hypron> why is only cod3r's and Dooglus' accounts not showing up <Steve> because they haven't played yet <hypron> ic ic <Cod3r> Dooglus, are you a troll? <hypron> obviously <Cod3r> Can you prove that the damning msg is legit? <hypron> it's not <hypron> steve said he's not the real dooglus Wtf... You've got to be a special kind of stupid to think this is legit. Was this really worth posting? The fake name didn't tip it off? Or the logic fail that the house edge could go from 1% to "11-12%" without people noticing? Really? Really? |
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funny that the small payout went to the address AK provided....
Well which one would you steal?  |
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{-%-}:[NYSE:PBR][NYSE:S][NYSE:TWTR][NSQ:FB][NSQ:MU][NSQ:SNDK][NIKKEI-225][DOGE][LTC][XMR][ETHR]: Just out of curiosity, what's with the tickers in your sig? |
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Actually it's not the individual complainer who is the sadder entity.
That award in reality would duly go to AWS and their holding company, for having a typical nannystate-supportive corporate culture and policy, as well as of course, to the US Government in general, for being this sad hypocritical bloated extortive we-bailout-too-big-to-fail-schemes monstrosity of a constipated repressive anti-liberty dogma.
Just cuz someone follows the laws doesn't make them a nanny-state supporter. After all, bad law or not, it's their ass if they don't follow it. Blame the law all you want, but the casino lobby pays enough to keep gambling websites illegal. Democracy at work! |
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Someone is a dick. Disgruntled loser perhaps?
Think it's a good thing this happened now, also it's good that amazon didn't just kick him out. I guess that it would've been harder to move a bigger website, so it's good that this happened now while moneypot is still growing and didn't cause any problems. That's the silver lining I guess. Doesn't change the fact that someone is a very sad individual though. I hope filing a complaint brought some modicum of satisfaction to what I can only assume is an existence devoid of contentment. |
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For the next ~15 minutes you may see SSL error warnings.
Someone has filed a complaint with Amazon about money pot being a gambling site, and amazon has asked me to discontinue using their services. The first and most important step for me is to move away from their name server and CDN services, which is currently propogating. I will be using a new https certificate, which is not yet authorized -- and your browser will likely throw a spac attack. This situation should be resolved shortly, and there should be no interruption to any games.
Someone is a dick. Disgruntled loser perhaps? |
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