bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game

[BBmmBB]

"GOT YOU" lol ...man is the site smoked already? :\   ~was rocking for a minute~

The site is fine.

Once again you've misunderstood.

lol i see we are rolling again..nice     ..this game is trouble haha

[DarKSpectrE]

<DoogIus> Eric pm?
<Steve> @Cod3r when the site was on heroku dooglus was given access
<Cod3r> Eric needs to come here and help us eliminate that possiblity
<Steve> so he could verify that the deployed code matches the code on github
<Cod3r> Dooglus used to own 40% shares of this site
<Steve> and you can audit the code on github yourself
<Cod3r> he cannot be trusted
<Steve> dooglus managed 60k BTC for investors
<Steve> without issues
<Cod3r> It doesnt neccessarily mean he won't cover for Eric
<Steve> well yeah, you can't prove that a person behaves as expected
<Steve> if you mean that
<DoogIus> \PrivateMsg Eric Eric I have the new math db - its ready to deploy when you want. Higher frequency low crashes, I modded it so the players shouldnt notice it too much - but our edge will be between 11-12% factoring our player bots. Is that math ok with you?
<DoogIus> shit
<Steve> i wonder why the site is allowing Dooglus and dooglus
<Cod3r> Holy shit
<hypron> is eric on?
<Cod3r> Is this legit?
<DoogIus> why am i not blue
<DoogIus> steve?
<Steve> because you're not dooglus
<DoogIus> my private msg command fucked
<hypron> lol
<DoogIus> calling eric
<Cod3r> interesting...
<hypron> https://www.moneypot.com/user/DoogIus
<hypron> huh
<hypron> wut
<hypron> all of the user pages are broken
<Cod3r> I'm leaving. I have a lot of work to do
<DoogIus> my account isnt displaying right im not modded and eric isnt answering - if he shows up steve have him call me please jesus
<hypron> wait
<hypron> why is only cod3r's and Dooglus' accounts not showing up
<Steve> because they haven't played yet
<hypron> ic ic
<Cod3r> Dooglus, are you a troll?
<hypron> obviously
<Cod3r> Can you prove that the damning msg is legit?
<hypron> it's not
<hypron> steve said he's not the real dooglus

Wtf...

[Post-Cosmic]

<DoogIus> Eric pm?
<Steve> @Cod3r when the site was on heroku dooglus was given access
<Cod3r> Eric needs to come here and help us eliminate that possiblity
<Steve> so he could verify that the deployed code matches the code on github
<Cod3r> Dooglus used to own 40% shares of this site
<Steve> and you can audit the code on github yourself
<Cod3r> he cannot be trusted
<Steve> dooglus managed 60k BTC for investors
<Steve> without issues
<Cod3r> It doesnt neccessarily mean he won't cover for Eric
<Steve> well yeah, you can't prove that a person behaves as expected
<Steve> if you mean that
<DoogIus> \PrivateMsg Eric Eric I have the new math db - its ready to deploy when you want. Higher frequency low crashes, I modded it so the players shouldnt notice it too much - but our edge will be between 11-12% factoring our player bots. Is that math ok with you?
<DoogIus> shit
<Steve> i wonder why the site is allowing Dooglus and dooglus
<Cod3r> Holy shit
<hypron> is eric on?
<Cod3r> Is this legit?
<DoogIus> why am i not blue
<DoogIus> steve?
<Steve> because you're not dooglus
<DoogIus> my private msg command fucked
<hypron> lol
<DoogIus> calling eric
<Cod3r> interesting...
<hypron> https://www.moneypot.com/user/DoogIus
<hypron> huh
<hypron> wut
<hypron> all of the user pages are broken
<Cod3r> I'm leaving. I have a lot of work to do
<DoogIus> my account isnt displaying right im not modded and eric isnt answering - if he shows up steve have him call me please jesus
<hypron> wait
<hypron> why is only cod3r's and Dooglus' accounts not showing up
<Steve> because they haven't played yet
<hypron> ic ic
<Cod3r> Dooglus, are you a troll?
<hypron> obviously
<Cod3r> Can you prove that the damning msg is legit?
<hypron> it's not
<hypron> steve said he's not the real dooglus

Wtf...

 I was gonna say must be an extremely drunk version of him that pulls a trollish prank like this, but..lol, nope, upon closer inspection you can easily tell here his name is DoogIus aka w/ an 'i' instead of an 'L' so yea. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be THAT surprised if something was a little sketchy in the commits / swapped over time or maybe the hash/seed/secret, especially when higher rolls you know, I'm just saying it's not impossible..although anecdotally, BruteForce did spend hours betting 1M bits every game last night and rolls did not seem out of the ordinary, so.. =/

But that being said, 11-12% is ginormous enough to make me think this was just a joke

[DarKSpectrE]

<DoogIus> Eric pm?
<Steve> @Cod3r when the site was on heroku dooglus was given access
<Cod3r> Eric needs to come here and help us eliminate that possiblity
<Steve> so he could verify that the deployed code matches the code on github
<Cod3r> Dooglus used to own 40% shares of this site
<Steve> and you can audit the code on github yourself
<Cod3r> he cannot be trusted
<Steve> dooglus managed 60k BTC for investors
<Steve> without issues
<Cod3r> It doesnt neccessarily mean he won't cover for Eric
<Steve> well yeah, you can't prove that a person behaves as expected
<Steve> if you mean that
<DoogIus> \PrivateMsg Eric Eric I have the new math db - its ready to deploy when you want. Higher frequency low crashes, I modded it so the players shouldnt notice it too much - but our edge will be between 11-12% factoring our player bots. Is that math ok with you?
<DoogIus> shit
<Steve> i wonder why the site is allowing Dooglus and dooglus
<Cod3r> Holy shit
<hypron> is eric on?
<Cod3r> Is this legit?
<DoogIus> why am i not blue
<DoogIus> steve?
<Steve> because you're not dooglus
<DoogIus> my private msg command fucked
<hypron> lol
<DoogIus> calling eric
<Cod3r> interesting...
<hypron> https://www.moneypot.com/user/DoogIus
<hypron> huh
<hypron> wut
<hypron> all of the user pages are broken
<Cod3r> I'm leaving. I have a lot of work to do
<DoogIus> my account isnt displaying right im not modded and eric isnt answering - if he shows up steve have him call me please jesus
<hypron> wait
<hypron> why is only cod3r's and Dooglus' accounts not showing up
<Steve> because they haven't played yet
<hypron> ic ic
<Cod3r> Dooglus, are you a troll?
<hypron> obviously
<Cod3r> Can you prove that the damning msg is legit?
<hypron> it's not
<hypron> steve said he's not the real dooglus

Wtf...

 I was gonna say must be an extremely drunk version of him that pulls a trollish prank like this, but..lol, nope, upon closer inspection you can easily tell here his name is DoogIus aka w/ an 'i' instead of an 'L' so yea. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be THAT surprised if something was a little sketchy in the commits / swapped over time or maybe the hash/seed/secret, especially when higher rolls you know, I'm just saying it's not impossible..although anecdotally, BruteForce did spend hours betting 1M bits every game last night and rolls did not seem out of the ordinary, so.. =/

But that being said, 11-12% is ginormous enough to make me think this was just a joke

Yeah, he spammed negative things about Eric in the chatbox and then got muted for 200days by a moderator

I wouldn't be surprised if his claims re Eric's code were turned out to be true. The game is dodgy as fuck, if you ask me. How do we tell if the code that we see on his github account is the same as the one that is deployed on his server? Just be extra careful when playing with BTC coins.

Bruteforce lost all of his 1M bits at the end? o.o

[jaysabi]

<DoogIus> Eric pm?
<Steve> @Cod3r when the site was on heroku dooglus was given access
<Cod3r> Eric needs to come here and help us eliminate that possiblity
<Steve> so he could verify that the deployed code matches the code on github
<Cod3r> Dooglus used to own 40% shares of this site
<Steve> and you can audit the code on github yourself
<Cod3r> he cannot be trusted
<Steve> dooglus managed 60k BTC for investors
<Steve> without issues
<Cod3r> It doesnt neccessarily mean he won't cover for Eric
<Steve> well yeah, you can't prove that a person behaves as expected
<Steve> if you mean that
<DoogIus> \PrivateMsg Eric Eric I have the new math db - its ready to deploy when you want. Higher frequency low crashes, I modded it so the players shouldnt notice it too much - but our edge will be between 11-12% factoring our player bots. Is that math ok with you?
<DoogIus> shit
<Steve> i wonder why the site is allowing Dooglus and dooglus
<Cod3r> Holy shit
<hypron> is eric on?
<Cod3r> Is this legit?
<DoogIus> why am i not blue
<DoogIus> steve?
<Steve> because you're not dooglus
<DoogIus> my private msg command fucked
<hypron> lol
<DoogIus> calling eric
<Cod3r> interesting...
<hypron> https://www.moneypot.com/user/DoogIus
<hypron> huh
<hypron> wut
<hypron> all of the user pages are broken
<Cod3r> I'm leaving. I have a lot of work to do
<DoogIus> my account isnt displaying right im not modded and eric isnt answering - if he shows up steve have him call me please jesus
<hypron> wait
<hypron> why is only cod3r's and Dooglus' accounts not showing up
<Steve> because they haven't played yet
<hypron> ic ic
<Cod3r> Dooglus, are you a troll?
<hypron> obviously
<Cod3r> Can you prove that the damning msg is legit?
<hypron> it's not
<hypron> steve said he's not the real dooglus

Wtf...

You've got to be a special kind of stupid to think this is legit. Was this really worth posting? The fake name didn't tip it off? Or the logic fail that the house edge could go from 1% to "11-12%" without people noticing?

Really? Really?

[DarKSpectrE]

In the chatbox, 'I' looks like 'l'.

I wouldn't be surprised if the house edge is more than 10%.

[jaysabi]

In the chatbox, 'I' looks like 'l'.

I wouldn't be surprised if the house edge is more than 10%.

https://www.moneypot.com/stats

Considering the current profit margin is 0.42%, I'd say you're off by a factor of 24.

[dooglus]

In the chatbox, 'I' looks like 'l'.

I wouldn't be surprised if the house edge is more than 10%.

It's pretty obvious when copy/pasted to the forum because 'I' and 'l' look pretty different here, but in the moneypot chatbox font they're hard to tell apart. Checking the troll's stats would have shown that he's not me of course - also the fact that his chat isn't blue.

There's also no private message command, I don't work for Eric, and I don't rig bets. I'm also very rarely awake at 5am...

I would be very surprised if the house edge didn't range from 0% to 1% based on the multiplier you cash out at.

[danneu]

  * There is no "math db", the house edge is determined by a single line of code

Hey everyone, the site's gonna be down for a few hours while I import some more math into my math db.

It's low on math.

I'm also adding an index to the `input` column of my sha256_hashes table which should speed things† up.

† The math

[alabamafan1]

  * There is no "math db", the house edge is determined by a single line of code

Hey everyone, the site's gonna be down for a few hours while I import some more math into my math db.

It's low on math.

I'm also adding an index to the `input` column of my sha256_hashes table which should speed things† up.

† The math

So do you have two accounts or whats going on here?

[jaysabi]

  * There is no "math db", the house edge is determined by a single line of code

Hey everyone, the site's gonna be down for a few hours while I import some more math into my math db.

It's low on math.

I'm also adding an index to the `input` column of my sha256_hashes table which should speed things† up.

† The math

So do you have two accounts or whats going on here?

That was someone being "funny." The only updates you'll see that are official in any way will come from espringe's account.

[BBmmBB]

Regrettably MoneyPot.com is now for auction. If anyone is interested, please see the terms here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818014.0

For players, I will be personally guaranteeing all existing balance for a period of 6 months against new owner misconduct -- so play on!

LOL WHAT A GREAT WAY TO INSTILL CONFIDENCE!!!! ROTFLMFAO 

[MadZ]

Regrettably MoneyPot.com is now for auction. If anyone is interested, please see the terms here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818014.0

For players, I will be personally guaranteeing all existing balance for a period of 6 months against new owner misconduct -- so play on!

This sounds pretty inconsistent with what you said earlier today about this site being a "long term investment":

For the long term stability of the site, I've been giving an upwards of ~80% of my profit in giveaways and recomps.

I'm assuming something unforeseen came up recently that is prompting this sale, since it seemed like the site was just beginning to take off. Care to share or is it a private matter?

[Candystripes]

I learned that the hard way, by losing .5 to a fake elleta by being ratted

[BBmmBB]

"GOT YOU" lol ...man is the site smoked already? :\   ~was rocking for a minute~

The site is fine.

Once again you've misunderstood.

so fine he's selling it! you clown! ..and lol especially after he just posted this!!! >> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2e1nwx/introducing_my_new_gambling_game/

 

[jaysabi]

Wow, this feels like it's coming out of left field, especially since I like the game and the transparency of ownership. Seemed like a real asset to the community. Can you provide any details about what is prompting such a drastic reversal?

[espringe]

I'm assuming something unforeseen came up recently that is prompting this sale, since it seemed like the site was just beginning to take off. Care to share or is it a private matter?

Yeah, some rather personal things have come up today which pushed my hand. And right now I need a bit more stability and less stress. One mistake I made early on was to be too open with people as well as use my name to back the integrity of the site. This has been met in kind with scamming, theft, extortion, threats and harassment. For the last two days, I haven't been able to really use the internet at home due to most likely one of my skype contacts leaking my IP address to DoS my home connection. Now my, and my families full details have put out there publicly with threats against it. I simply can not be involved in this world anymore -- or safely hold onto an ever growing bankroll of untraceable coins that exceed the value of my life in this part of the world.

I also find myself holding onto a bankroll that is way to small to support the bets that happen on the site. When ever I lose money, I fear I'm going to go bankrupt. When ever I make money, I have 80% of the player base screaming vitriol about the site being a scam (it's a giant feedback loop, as everyone experience the same thing)

I have every intention of helping the new owner take the site to its full potential, it's incredibly rewarding seeing people play and love what I created  (just as i was writing this, i see someone reviewed the site: http://bit-vortex.com/reviews/moneypot/ which make it feel all worth while) -- and by no means will drop my baby now, which is why I'm offering 1 month of my time to help a seamless transition.  It's just that I no longer want to own this site.

[BayAreaCoins]

Regrettably MoneyPot.com is now for auction. If anyone is interested, please see the terms here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818014.0

For players, I will be personally guaranteeing all existing balance for a period of 6 months against new owner misconduct -- so play on!

Same day dice.ninja and their sites go.

Didn't DMF help you a fair bit?  What connection does auction your site have to do with theirs if any or do all these dates just happen to be around the same.

1. DMF mixing bitcoins.
2. Their site breaking even.
3. You selling your site.

ect ect


MMbbMM is a totally retard just ignore him.  I'm sure that is Ownsley.

[galbros]

I'm assuming something unforeseen came up recently that is prompting this sale, since it seemed like the site was just beginning to take off. Care to share or is it a private matter?

Yeah, some rather personal things have come up today which pushed my hand. And right now I need a bit more stability and less stress. One mistake I made early on was to be too open with people as well as use my name to back the integrity of the site. This has been met in kind with scamming, theft, extortion, threats and harassment. For the last two days, I haven't been able to really use the internet at home due to most likely one of my skype contacts leaking my IP address to DoS my home connection. Now my, and my families full details have put out there publicly with threats against it. I simply can not be involved in this world anymore -- or safely hold onto an ever growing bankroll of untraceable coins that exceed the value of my life in this part of the world.

I also find myself holding onto a bankroll that is way to small to support the bets that happen on the site. When ever I lose money, I fear I'm going to go bankrupt. When ever I make money, I have 80% of the player base screaming vitriol about the site being a scam (it's a giant feedback loop, as everyone experience the same thing)

I have every intention of helping the new owner take the site to its full potential, it's incredibly rewarding seeing people play and love what I created  (just as i was writing this, i see someone reviewed the site: http://bit-vortex.com/reviews/moneypot/ which make it feel all worth while) -- and by no means will drop my baby now, which is why I'm offering 1 month of my time to help a seamless transition.  It's just that I no longer want to own this site.

That is really sad.  Your site looks really innovative and interesting.  One of the few new things to hit bitcoin gambling in awhile.  I'm sorry the leeches and trolls got you but I can't blame you for wanting to protect your family.

I'm sorry and good luck to you!  I hope you get a good price for your site.

[caga]

It is a bad news that you are going to be selling the website. Is the site going to continue running till the time you sell it?
and How much are you selling it for?