https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759743.msg10772479#msg10772479This post, in itself is short. Someone claims that LTCGear (who's not paying out, for who's not up to speed, already since end of december) is selling again after a week of downtime. The site finally shows content again, changes have been made, hopefully in 18 hours it'll be possible to see payable amounts, I'm very close to switching from "still waiting" to "losing patience" but unlike others I'm not on the full retard OMGITSASCAM stance. Yet. That said, this specific thread explodes once several people start throwing around FUD. So although it's a short post, without much big news/insight in it, it's valuable to the thread as people won't start swearing/ranting since the claim "OMG OMG OMG HE'S SELLING AGAIN, HE'S A PONZI" is debunked with my post. It's valuable to the thread, people who only read the thread will see this as balanced and relevant to the thread. Another thing you shouldn't forgot though is that if you have a Sr member showing your signature, this signature is visible on -ALL- the posts of that member. In my case for example that's 861 links to you website throughout the whole forum. Anyone looking for information on the 5 chip Gridseeds will probably hit a few of my posts, I've been active in the Minera thread, I've talked a lot about group buys, any of those will show your signature. So besides the content of the current posts, you're advertising in a lot more places. I do see that stuff like off-topic and ponzi is easy to throw out, but for example altcoin or general bitcoin discussion, I do see as possible valuable. Then again, +1, smileys and such are logic to be "unpaid", they don't add anything to the thread. Okay, in a way what you said is right. But it is not practicable for us to go through each thread a user posted. Last week, we paid out 1300+ posts, lol, (that is just constructive ones). It is near impossible to do so.  Yes, signature is visible to all. But, if the user spams a lot, the user as well as the campaign looses credibility. Most importantly, it is our duty to keep the forum clean, useful, and constructive  They are included already. (bolded ones) Thank you |
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I have already complained about this last week and I will again because I've seen a comment that it's bad to write "one liners". What is a one liner? I have a big screen and can fit over 35 words in a single line, so most of my posts are one liners. Short posts can be constructive, so either you as the manager will read every single post and decide if it is relevant to the topic, or just choose the easy way and pick a minimum number of characters or words (like Bitmixer does) and we'll try to comply.
I think that short sentences can be brilliant and genius sometimes. Lets not judge posts by their length. After all some of the best quotes in history are just 'one liners'. Example, quote by Satoshi Nakamoto from Feb. 14, 2010: "I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large (bitcoin) transaction volume or no volume."
By your standard ndnhc would you consider this post a spam and useless if it was post written by one of the users enrolled in DaDice campaign? No, we don't consider one-liners as non-constructive. There seems to be a misunderstanding about this. It just happens that some of them had their entire posts just one sentence. (They got banned later). You can see we have counted one-liner posts if it provides something constructive to the topic. Similarly, we don't consider a post constructive if it says simply 'Congrats on winning this', by just copying the above post probably. Would it not be unfair to the other ethnic group and users of different language than english? It will make users from India more privileged than rest of us.
I wouldn't be able to write in my local board but Indian users will? I only post in english so I don't have problem with that but others may think that it is unfair.
The fact is that Indian users should usually talk in Hindi (local language) in the Local boards section but they talk only in English for everyone to understand it. If that's the case in other Local sections where users make posts in English, it would be more relevant for the admin also to add that section. Why? Hindi is only the language spoken by the majority. Rank Language 2001 census[3] (total population 1,028,610,328 ) 1991 census[4] (total population 838,583,988) Encarta 2007 estimate[5] (worldwide speakers) Speakers Percentage Speakers Percentage Speakers 1 Hindi languages[6] 422,048,642 41.03% 329,518,087 39.29% 366 M 2 Bengali 83,369,769 8.11% 69,595,738 8.30% 207 M 3 Telugu 74,002,856 7.19% 66,017,615 7.87% 69.7 M 4 Marathi 71,936,894 6.99% 62,481,681 7.45% 68.0 M 5 Tamil 60,793,814 5.91% 53,006,368 6.32% 66.0 M 6 Urdu 51,536,111 5.01% 43,406,932 5.18% 60.3 M 7 Gujarati 46,091,617 4.48% 40,673,814 4.85% 46.1 M 8 Kannada 37,924,011 3.69% 32,753,676 3.91% 35.3 M 9 Malayalam 33,066,392 3.21% 30,377,176 3.62% 35.7 M 10 Oriya 33,017,446 3.21% 28,061,313 3.35% 32.3 M 11 Punjabi 29,102,477 2.83% 23,378,744 2.79% 57.1 M 12 Assamese 13,168,484 1.28% 13,079,696 1.56% 15.4 M 13 Maithili 12,179,122 1.18% 7,766,921 0.926% 24.2 M Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers_in_IndiaEdit: Would also like any suggestions on including and excluding boards. I would like to suggest any local boards should be INCLUDED as fas as the language is English. For example you'll see some quality discussion going on in Indian forum which is all in English and appeals global audience. Would it not be unfair to the other ethnic group and users of different language than english? It will make users from India more privileged than rest of us. I wouldn't be able to write in my local board but Indian users will? I only post in english so I don't have problem with that but others may think that it is unfair. Yeah, this is the reason why we decided to exclude the local board (India) -snip- Edit: Would also like any suggestions on including and excluding boards. It is funny how in one week you exclude one section of the forum and then another section in next week. I have no problem with Off-topic section or games and rounds, and Ponzi section that is actually beneficial for everyone. But cutting off Politics and Society is weird, and now you don't even us to post in Bitcoin's News section? I never seen any campaign doing that. And I like, from time to time, post my comments about latest news from bitcoin's world... I just included that since I saw two posters who posted almost 100% of their posts there If I made just a few posts there, it will be included as usual in full. But we don't want too many posts there, since the active members of that particular boards are not very likely to be interested in playing dice |
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Removed. Since you changed the signature.
Those who enrolled today, please make sure that you make at least 7 constructive posts by Tuesday evening. |
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From these i'd exclude #2, 4, 5, 9, 15, 18, and 20. (I know you ask for the count that are constructive, but the first person to respond to this above listed in terms of exclusions. I'll do the same for comparisons sake.)
Great discussion idea, this is what we need. There's been a lot of discussion among the Admin, Moderator, Staff folks but not much from the community of ad campaign participants. If we discuss it and understand what we as a community deem constructive (vs. not) I think we'll all be able to improve the posts and reduce the tension.
For me, a constructive post needs to:
1) Push the discussion further. This could be through offering additional insight or facts or by asking relevant questions that haven't been asked yet. (E.g., even easy questions to ask but appropriate for the discussion are constructive b/c there are a lot of newer forum members here, they have a right to learn (as much as we did when we were new))
2) Come across positively, attitude comes into play, being argumentative doesn't help any discussion (be it at the bar or over coffee or on this forum) so a positive, friendly attitude is also important to making the post constructive.
3) Not repeat what people who posted earlier have said, a lot of posters poach an easy newbie question to answer so they just reply quick without reading through to see if the question has been answered, this is a key indicator of post count boosting rather than reading and contributing to a thread.
I look forward to reading this discussion and I'd also welcome any feedback on my recent posts!
That is really a great explanation, lol  Thanks That is what exactly we are looking for.. Comparison: shulio #20, 19, 17, 16, 15, 12, 4 and 3 Harry Hood #2, 4, 5, 9, 15, 18, and 20 lol, he made a few posts today. Now pretty confusing to know. (I will check the time of the post to get the real data) Cheers ndnhc |
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Archival is excluded, forgot to add that.
Nice to see you back |
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Well, I got to get more opinions so that we can improve our counting. lol, I couldn't find this and didn't know it was moved from Services section to Meta. Had to gt herre form recent posts. Will put a link in our campaign thread to get more opinions Edit: Would also like any suggestions on including and excluding boards. Maybe you should change the title to Let us define constructive posts (wrt DaDice signature campaign)If this is specific to the signature campaign, Marketplace --> Service Discussion would be the right place for this thread. Yeah, I guess. Initially it was not intended to be relating to dadice campaign. Now I think, it is. I will move it to Service Discussion and change the title. Thanks |
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for me, constructive would be either your post give a contribution to the topic or not in other words, we can just imagine, did our post actually give up worthy opinion for the discussion topic on the thread or answer up question related to the discussion topic Thanks Out of the last 20 posts here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=125554;sa=showPosts , for instance, (if you take all boards as included except the ones in the dadice campaign thread), how many posts will you consider as constructive? Im not in a position to judge, since i mself consider that not all of my post can be considered constructive too and also the words "constructive post" in this forum cannot be define acutally , because it is due to the preference and judgement of some people are slighty different one another I will personally exclude #20, 19, 17, 16, 15, 12, 4 and 3 as being not constructive enough, since im not in a position to judge as mine was not better than any top poster in this meta board Thanks for your opinion He had posted that he considers at least 90%+ of his posts to be constructive. That is why I just asked Well, I got to get more opinions so that we can improve our counting. lol, I couldn't find this and didn't know it was moved from Services section to Meta. Had to gt herre form recent posts. Will put a link in our campaign thread to get more opinions Edit: Would also like any suggestions on including and excluding boards. |
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I am not familar with this forum ,and the escrow is 2.5btc one time for one week.
I can not trust any one before I know the escrow rules,any one help me ?
It works like this. All funds for the week are sent to the escrow to the address usually signed by him. Once it is received the escrow confirms the receipt on the thread. At the end of the week, the campaign manager, (you or someone you pick) will send the list of qualified usernames, addresses and amounts to the escrow who will release the payment to the addresses. Escrows may charge a fee or accept tips instead. Their fee is usually 0%, 1% and upto 3% (as in the case of dadice escrow with devthedev). Once the payment is made, you may refill the sent amount to the escrow if you are continuing the next week too. That is: Total :2.5 Sent : 2 Balance: 0.5 Refill: 2 So the total again becomes 2.5 BTC. Once the campaign is over, etc., the escrow sends the leftover amount back to you. Hope that helped. |
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yes I get his question. I mean Member, Senior member, Hero Member, Legendary Member, Full member etc. become the same" Little Girl" level, because you r all newbie on girlbtc But the signature will be better for a Hero member than for a member. I suggest we should change the rates accordingly however small the change is. Can you confirm whether I can become the campaign manager? If so, from next week? |
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for me, constructive would be either your post give a contribution to the topic or not in other words, we can just imagine, did our post actually give up worthy opinion for the discussion topic on the thread or answer up question related to the discussion topic Thanks Out of the last 20 posts here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=125554;sa=showPosts , for instance, (if you take all boards as included except the ones in the dadice campaign thread), how many posts will you consider as constructive? |
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Posts in Politics and Society will not be given weightage. What do you mean by this? What weightage is being applied to other posts that are not applied to posts in Politics and Society? I saw one or two of them posting a lot in that board (70%+). What I meant is if he makes some 10 posts, it will be seens as say 10*70%= 7 posts. If you make just a few posts there, it will be counted as usual. but we don't want someone posting there alone. Thanks for pointing it out. I will edit that to make it more clear. |
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Sorry, for sending you PMs instead of posting here. That is the general practice.
Should I take over the signature campaign from now or from the next week?
Will I be given the freedom to fix rates, etc. for different levels, etc.? Who will be responsible for setting up and managing escrow (assuming I am not the escrow)
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Do you accept what I sent through PM?
Please keep the details confidential. Just in case.
I am willing to manage girlbtc.com giveaway.
welcome you to be our manager and I am contacting theymos as our escrow, waiting for his reply now , thanks for your attention. the girlbtc.com is really worth your time. Theymos is a very busy admin and it will be quite beyond surprising if he accepts that, lol. (Just like ^ he said) I can be the escrow too. Been looking for opening up my own escrow service lately. Would love to start with this. Or you can pick one from this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0 as I PMed. |
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Constructive is a relative term and it differs from person to person. I am making this thread to get an idea (for me and for the readers) what posts are generally accepted as constructive and which are not. While making the spreadsheet for the dadice campaign, I found a way to check the board of posting and also the number of characters in a post. But how can it know which is constructive, which is not? I always wondered how bit-x bot uses differentiates between both. I think they merely check the number of characters and at the end of the period they check the recent posts of relevant pariticpants and take a percentage of their post count as not-constructive, deduct it and payout for the rest. Any way to do this? (We won't make the ultimate count automated, but it will be better if we show approximately how many posts will be counted in real time) Let me know your thoughts To post what you think as constructive and what as not, quote a post and say whether it is constructive, why/ why not you consider it so. Try not to quote your own posts. (Please don't be offended if someone quotes your post as not constructive. It is just a chance to know what people think and how you can improve) Thank you |
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Do you accept what I sent through PM?
Please keep the details confidential. Just in case.
I am willing to manage girlbtc.com giveaway.
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Wow, nice work on the spreadsheet. I was away for a day or so and I come back and that thing is looking very improved. Especially impressive that you're slurping in the current post count.
One question I had was related to the "new" section where some people show 20 min post req. others 18, etc. Why do different people have different min post requirements?
From what I could see it is directly linked to day people joined this campaign. If you are late joiner your post limit is reduced accordingly. Aha, yes, that makes sense, if you join halfway through it's nice that dadice is giving them a break on the min-post requirement. Cheers! Yep, that is right. It is also rounded up to give less advantage to late joiners. Quickseller showed me a function that i didn't know of to get data from the html of the profile. I did some research and found a few sites, read them all and improved it a lot after finding a crucial addition that I was searching all along. Thanks |
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Thanks super I think i'm going to open the contest back up though. While your designs are not bad I don't think they are up to the quality of your other work.
I'm lowering the bounty however to .15btc as only 2 signatures now need to be done.
You accepted both of Superstar's signatures? Can you inform me what is 'the other work' you are referring to? Edit: This is one of the weirdest contest I have ever seen, lol. For example: Member signature: ✭ 0% commission ✭ ✭ Insured live wallet ✭ ▂▃▅▆█ GeⒷⒷit █▆▅▃▂ ✭ Bitcoin payments straight to cold wallet ✭ ✭ Fast processing times ✭ From Superstar777's design. Noticed that there is no link in the code. Hero: [center][table]
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[td][url=https://gebbit.com/][glow=white,2,300][color=orange]✭[/color] [color=#0080FF][b]0% commission on Limit Orders[/b][/color] [color=orange]✭[/color][/glow] [color=#0080FF]
[color=orange]✭[/color] [color=#FF0000][b]Insured live wallet[/b][/color] [color=orange]✭[/color] [color=#0080FF]
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[td][url=https://gebbit.com/][glow=white,2,300][color=black][size=20pt] •[/size][color=black][size=17pt][color=orange]•[/color][/size][color=black][size=14pt]•[/size][color=black][size=11pt][color=orange]•[/color][/size][color=black][size=8pt]•[/size][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][color=orange][size=20pt] [b]Ge[color=#088A68]ⒷⒷ[/color]it[/b][/size][/color][color=black] [size=8pt]•[/size][/color][color=black][size=11pt][color=orange]•[/color][/size][/color][color=black][size=14pt]•[/size][/color][color=black][size=17pt][color=orange]•[/color][/size][/color][color=black][size=20pt]• [/size][/color]
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[td][url=https://gebbit.com/][glow=white,2,300][color=orange]✭[/color] [color=#0080FF] [color=#04B404][b]Bitcoin payments go straight to cold wallet[/b][/color] [color=orange]✭[/color][/glow] [color=#0080FF]
[color=#000000] [color=orange]✭[/color] [color=#0080FF] [b]Fast processing times[/b][/color] [color=orange]✭[/color] [color=#0080FF]
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[/table][/center] Again from Superstar777's design. If you accept these designs Superstar777 gets 70% (since I edited his code) and I get 30%. I don't care how much I get as long as it is above 0.03. Cheers |
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OHHH I see. So first person to hit the streak of 9 then they get 1st place and second place is the other 9. Ok that makes much more sense. I think though it should be the last person to hit it, so that if someone gets the same one you get then you have to bet again to ensure your winnings.
That's a great idea, darn would have been much better that way around. I do not want to change the rules of a running competition around too much, so I'll leave it as it is for this one. However, we will have many more competitions to come, and I'd like to use your idea for future ones if you don't mind :-) If you get an agreement from the current top 3 I think you can change the rules now. They would be the only ones affected currently and I think they would be fine with it since there aren't any of the same numbers I think. Of course you can use my ideas lol I want to try both variants to be able to see which one is more fun, so I won't change it this time. I'm starting to realize that these competitions are just games in and of itself. Damn I love games :-). Thanks for the awesome input funtotry... Usually it is the early guy who wins, in almost all similar competitions (unless the prize is shared) I prefer it as it is. |
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I will join this if you escrow the BTC
you can find some one you trust and I will do the escrow I am interested. Fee will be 0%. Tips appreciated Let me know if you are interested. Cheers
Is it possible to sell my account 'ndnhc' to someone else? I have received a PM from an interested party. |
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