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4121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 26, 2014, 08:15:15 PM
I just got an e-mail supposedly from MtGox..  from info@mtgox.com

Dear MtGox Customers,

Please sign the papers attached, we can complete the process of closing the account and send you what the balance to another Wallet Address.

Sincerely, Mark Karpeles February 26th 2014

Download Documents

The Download Documents text links to a supposed PDF download located at desobc.com

If I try to download the 'pdf' it really tries to download a binary file with a .pif extension.

Phishing for infos/ trying to get people it install something they shouldn't

Beware

4122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:55:51 PM
BitcoinRain was a Brazilian "bitcoin investment fund" that operated from Oct/2011 to Apr/2013.  It took the investor's BTC and promised a minimum 9% monthly return in BTC to them.

Any fund that promises those kinds of returns is going to be a scam. That's a no-brainer. Nobody who makes real returns like that needs new investors.

Obviously so.  But what about an investment that promises a 10,000% return in 3 years?


Excuse me? What investment is promising 10,000% returns in 3 years? Please source.

You are trying very hard to embarass yourself, Mr. Stelfi - again and again and again.

Plus, you have just written that Bitcoin is NOT a good investment right now... Are you shure? Price is almost half of its ATH. Let's speak in one year from now, ok?

+1
4123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:51:26 PM
how can we be goxed any further? market assumes the worst now, anything they say (e.g. being acquired) now would be seen as a positive.

"We should have an official announcement ready soon-ish. We are currently at a turning point for the business. I can't tell much more for now as this also involves other parties."

Okay, there has been one worst case left: Bitcoin itself is broken. That would be a turning point for the business.

At this point, I'm pretty sure the report is real and they have probably been acquired

Or that report is not totally true, but they have been acquired


4124  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:48:01 PM
Domain investor Andy Booth has confirmed the sale of www.gox.com to Mark Karpeles.

http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-loses-340-million-bitcoin-rumoured-insolvent/

PS. I haven't seen this posted anywhere though I was sleeping at the time so you might have read it already.

It's funny how Karpeles sees the bitcoin community as a mindless flock of emus. You can take their money and use it for your personal risky investments, and then, all you have to do is create a new exchange and say sorry and promise to pay everything back when you can. And.. everything goes smoothly, because emus tend to hide their heads in the sand and hope that no action needs to be taken and the free market will eventually sort everything out.
I think that bitcoin is heaven for those who lack ethics or morals.

He is selling out, that's how I see this. Buying Gox.com domain is adding a bit of rebranding for the buyer.

I think he probably sold out a while ago... wink wink nudge nudge
4125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:12:11 PM
Hearing rumors that gox has been bought out, can't confirm.

Well the rummors were in their html:



acq = acquisition

who would want to buy that crap.. i dont know

I hate to fuel rumors, but this is the speculation forum.  

Pure speculation, but in a logical world, the ONLY buyer would be someone whose reputation could dramatically overwhelm that of Gox.  this organization would suddenly benefit from hundreds of thousands (or whatever) of verified bitcoin accounts.  

An existing bitcoin player would seem undercapitalized.  It would have to be a financial services company.  But it all depends on how much Gox is under-capitalized.  Repairing a couple million dollar shortfall would be nothing to a large company -- in fact it could result in a massive profit if they've been buying Gox coins at the discount.

This would explain the activity on Gox and bitcoinbuilder -- it might be illegal and unethical for Gox to buy their own coins for 100 bucks, but I think that it would not be for agent X who (for example) buys 90% of the Gox coins trading at 5-20% of other exchanges, then turns around and buys the company for keep-me-out-of-jail prices.




We all know the rocket is going to take off sooner or later.... b b b but d d d do you think they have had their fill of c c c cheap coins yet?? out of Mt g g gox?

<putsontinfoilhatandsparksacrackpipe>

ring ring

"Howdy doody Mark how are you on this fine American day? My name is Mr X and Mark the reason I am calling all the way from NY city today is to make you an offer, I think you should put down your frappacuinno extra large, and park your extra large butt on one of them big blue balls... I have an offer that you cannot refuse, it will keep you in blueballs and extra decorative tubs of coffee for ever..................
.......but first show me your books"

Mark pisses himself with glee and hands over the books

"Interesting so back in 20** this dip in price here what caused this? what is that you say? you halted withdrawals and everyone shit themselves? and the price tanked...... hmm interesting..."

"ok the offer stands...here is a giant stack of cash... but you are now mine!!  dance fat boy!!  dance!-
 
Ahem sorry I mean here is what we are going to do......I want you to halt all Bitcoin withdrawals now..."

Price tanks

Mr X buys lots and lots of cheap coins...

MtGox reopens withdrawals slowly

Price creeps back up

MK announces he is taking early retirement

MtGox gets bought out by a fund, maybe intending to open an NY office in 2015

Confidence re MTGox soars

Price soars

They got cheap entry into the market, and picked up a "distressed asset" along the way  
and played a lovely game of manipulate the market with a healthy dose of fear.

<removestinfoilhatbutkeepsthecrackpipeforanotherblast>





Yeah we could have just seen this play out in the past week, and continue to play out now... the broken trust the other exchanges are talking about , insider trading?

Who knows ... but something is in the works
4126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 03:44:17 PM
Waiting for updates from MtGox



Bears be like
4127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:59:33 PM
Why would somebody actually buy Gox right now ? It is a bad investment. Their brand is worth $-1 right now.

so buy high and sell low?

11% for goxbtc  is a sweet deal IMO. Hurry up while offer lasts. Cheesy

I think he was saying who would buy the company Gox.... as their brand is worth $1 - but if the price was right, and you
ended up with 1 million client accounts, that are ready to trade, if only a professional entity would take over Gox
- then yeah buying Gox as a distressed asset , and turning it around could be a great buy .... buy low , sell high ; )
Depending on what debts they could have of course... what coins they may have lost etc

But do we really know what is going on yet?

I have just woken up...

Are Gox really 100% gone?  or is this just the biggest goxxing yet?

ps- also I eard that MtGox was processing JPY yesterday
pps Also  if you were going to do a bunk, surely you could do it in a much better fashion than this, why pull the site, and twitter etc when you could fade quietly away...and just leave everyone hanging for another month whilst you make good your get away? unless Mark is incompetent at skipping town too...




4128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:49:50 PM
Why would somebody actually buy Gox right now ? It is a bad investment. Their brand is worth $-1 right now.

so buy high and sell low?
4129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:47:09 PM
Morning !  Grin

So I go to sleep at 5.00 a.m just after Gos site goes down...

Wake up, see stamp traded all the way down to $400  Gox is still stuck... and the site is still down

And there are 138 pages to read through - oh my- I have taken the rest of the day , maybe even the week off... going to be busy

So....please may I have an update??

Is there going to be a new shiny Gox? or a new shiny box?

Is there any angry Austrian trying to take over the world? (again?)

I am only half a cup of coffee in...  but if the world was falling in at Gox , I would have expected some more action on bitcoinbuilder, price seems v high?

what is going on folks?


Thanks -
Jorge please feel free to sit this one out, I have already seen some of your glee thougths.
4130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:40:20 PM
That is where a major divide in the Bitcoin community is. I don't care if government thinks bitcoin is legit. The only thing I care about is having money that I can hold and transport my wealth stealthily. I want "drug trafficking", I want things so out of control that government destroys itself trying to contain it. There are many other like me.

That is one of the two disasters that befell the bitcoin project, and will kill it.


nah!
4131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:41:28 AM
4132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 04:05:45 AM
this will pass
4133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 03:22:14 AM
EVERYONE... they just changed it from "Joint statement regarding mtgox insolvency" to "Joint statement regarding mtgox"

anybody have a screencap of the original?

They did not, noob scammer poster just edited the link. This works too. http://blog.coinbase.com/post/77766809700/joint-statement-regarding-my-asshole

 
4134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 02:24:37 AM

If you go to the site it says that it is down for maintenance.

Yeah... I am just wondering if this explains the Gox stop ?

(edit- probably not though... it is late I am going to to sle
4135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 02:21:17 AM
Blockchain.info is down

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/blockchain.info.html

edit: and back up again... Gox still stuck...so what has stopped Gox?
4136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:27:39 AM
This forum has officially gone to shit.

Enjoy yourselves. I'm outta here. Not that I will be missed by many, but I wish you all the best.

You might see me again on the next upswing or if they decide to reenact newbie restrictions. Au Revoir.

 Cry I enjoy reading your posts

+1
4137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:24:57 AM


JUST DO IT ALREADY !!! @GOX

 Cheesy
4138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2014, 01:15:16 AM


hmmmmm DMT
4139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2014, 11:47:53 PM
4140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2014, 11:43:44 PM
smells like BS

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...... is it Mark Karpeles?

Quack
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