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4121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: June 09, 2017, 07:05:38 PM
If you are a addicted to gamble, if your addiction destroys yourself, if your family is affected by your addiction, if you are frustrated about your addiction then definitely gambling is a sin.. Every negative addiction is a sin..
So it depends on your level of addiction identify that whether it is sin or not...

Addiction is negative in my point of view, whatever you do when it comes to unnecessary that is becoming addiction. And everything that is too much for us is bad. But if you are a gambler and you are making these results after you gamble, I consider it as a sin only if you do comeout with these results but if not, that's fine.
Is there even a positive point where addiction is a must and it should be done always? I think not. Thinking that addiction is okay, that's not good because maybe you are an addict also. But stating that, having more than what is right is not good because it could lead to addiction. Curiosity would kill you if you have too much.

I don't have a thought if there is a positive result about it. Too much addiction will kill you in a way that you will completely forget about yourself and everything about you. And that is going to make you sin that forms other ways of activity that will lead you to sin. Well different thoughts with different point of views base on our way of thinking.
4122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 09, 2017, 05:38:11 PM
Game 4, I am placing my bet on the cleveland cavaliers. Because it will be a better championship if GSW will be back in their homecourt in Game 5.

Just like what I said when Cavs still lose the game 3 I still don't have hopes with them. And maybe when my decision is going to be against with you, Cavs will win but I will stand on my decision that I don't have hopes anymore with Cavs. But I'm not a bandwagon so I will just wait and watch their last/upcoming game.

They failed to take advantage of the game 3 when it is in their own home. I have expected them to take atleast the win in game 3 but guess what they failed as well. GSW can win the rest of the game if they can do so well in game 3, there will be alot of people that bet for game 4 and get advantage from GSW

Everyone is expecting that they will get the game 3 but it seems that everyone is disappointed on how they was beaten to their very own home court. It just proved that home court is just an advantage but it will not guarantee a team to win. A lot of confidence now for GSW and let's see later if this series will end.
4123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How test a new gambling site? on: June 09, 2017, 05:28:50 PM
Better to know who are the people behind that new gambling site. And don't get attracted and convinced easily with those new gambling site, well play money is just a normal feature a gambling site. But there's more better way to test them, transparency is very important for our side. And look if they have an active support.
4124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is winning the Race - Bitcoin or Paypal? on: June 09, 2017, 08:16:14 AM
It's not just one race, it's different types. In the race for the best solution to store value, Bitcoin is certainly winning. To make payments online, PayPal is winning this one.

Why not consider bitcoin to use and make payments online. It's one of the popular usage of bitcoin and I guess bitcoin is winning this so called race or competition. But let's don't have a competition like this as both are useful and we can choose where we will get mostly low fees and fast transaction or what you preferred way of transacting.

I agree, bitcoins are much much better than paypal in this aspect. The gambling world will be ruled by those casinos with bitcoins as their primary currency! That's the truth and future of gambling. This is why popular sports books has been adopting bitcoins as one of their ways to cash in to the sport books because they recognize the potential of bitcoins.
It is one of the blooming industry in bitcoin nowadays and that is helping bitcoin to become more popular because of the feature it gives to the player. Unlike in paypal when you want to deposit to the usual online casino, they will need to have your information and everything regarding your stay at them.
4125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is winning the Race - Bitcoin or Paypal? on: June 08, 2017, 09:56:29 PM
It's not just one race, it's different types. In the race for the best solution to store value, Bitcoin is certainly winning. To make payments online, PayPal is winning this one.

Why not consider bitcoin to use and make payments online. It's one of the popular usage of bitcoin and I guess bitcoin is winning this so called race or competition. But let's don't have a competition like this as both are useful and we can choose where we will get mostly low fees and fast transaction or what you preferred way of transacting.
4126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 08, 2017, 09:47:53 PM
Game 4, I am placing my bet on the cleveland cavaliers. Because it will be a better championship if GSW will be back in their homecourt in Game 5.

Just like what I said when Cavs still lose the game 3 I still don't have hopes with them. And maybe when my decision is going to be against with you, Cavs will win but I will stand on my decision that I don't have hopes anymore with Cavs. But I'm not a bandwagon so I will just wait and watch their last/upcoming game.
4127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: June 08, 2017, 09:40:54 PM
If you are a addicted to gamble, if your addiction destroys yourself, if your family is affected by your addiction, if you are frustrated about your addiction then definitely gambling is a sin.. Every negative addiction is a sin..
So it depends on your level of addiction identify that whether it is sin or not...

Addiction is negative in my point of view, whatever you do when it comes to unnecessary that is becoming addiction. And everything that is too much for us is bad. But if you are a gambler and you are making these results after you gamble, I consider it as a sin only if you do comeout with these results but if not, that's fine.
4128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA FINALS (Golden State Warriors vs Cleveland Cavaliers) on: June 08, 2017, 01:20:43 PM
I'm a bit surprised that GSW managed to win 3 games in a row. I thought cavs would win the 3rd game, but the performance on the last quarter is pretty dissapointing. I root for GSW but cavs need to win the fourth game to make this more exciting final.

There's no sudden surprise, I knew it that Golden State Warriors can catch up to 3 consecutive wins against Cleveland Cavaliers. And there's only 1 win left and they will be the champion for this season. They are known for having a lot of consecutive wins and that is making their team stronger for trusting each players.
4129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we ever see bitcoin lower than 1000$? on: June 08, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
I dont believe we will anytime soon the bitcoin going lower 1500 dollars, soo for me the 1000 dollars has becamed a dream, something that i really doubt it will happen, the demand of bitcoin is growing, the legalization into Japan has made already a big impact over bitcoin.

It's possible and it's not. It's possible to become lower than $1,000 again when a lot of whales will take some profit at the same time. That will lead the supply of bitcoin to have many in the market and it's not possible. Since those whales are making the price higher they want it to stay at $2,000 and have new floor price.
4130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: June 08, 2017, 12:35:17 PM
From now a days some people gamble below 18 of age they gamble. Young people are now enter online gambling because they see it online and they want to try it until they become addicted to it.

And the young people that are entering to gambling industry are even adding each day. The mindset of those young people thinks that it's very easy to earn and the way of it is by gambling. I'm aware that there are a lot of under age who are engaged with gambling and the sad thing about it is that they are becoming gambling addict at very young age.
4131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: June 07, 2017, 08:45:54 PM
You shouldn't gamble what you can't afford to lose in the first place. I agree that the majority of people who gamble is in the red. Even if they win sometime, but they still lose more before. And a few one who's positive have a great luck. And the purpose of gambling is to enjoy the game.

Gamblers will not remember this that they need to gamble only what they afford to lose. The extent feeling of always winning when they started to play is what always comes out of their mind. It's not worth it when these addicted gamblers, realized that they need to moderate their addiction and convert their time to some other good things.
That's true, they feel what they need to feel and see what they need to see in order to gamble continuously. It could lead to problems in the future if they are not addressed properly. They shouldn't let themselves be on the negative side of the profit table, make a way and probably enjoy it.

We can't stop them from thinking that it's worth it to gamble and they have bigger ways to become rich and the main method will be found in gambling. It's the other side of making gambling to be the highest at your priority. Enjoying is one reason they gamble and profit taking is placing that reason once a gambler experience to win.
4132  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: June 07, 2017, 08:35:46 PM
You shouldn't encourage young ones to focus or to go all in on bitcoin. No matter how great a thing was if abused it will only cause problems. They should try Bitcoin don't go all in it's only my opinion but it is still depends on one's person perspective.

Modern technology is what the young people now are into it. And bitcoin is a product of modern technology, there's nothing wrong if we will introduce bitcoin to the young ones. While they are young, it's good for them to have some knowledge about bitcoin so that they will have the idea that can earn through crypto currency.

I agree that knowledge about the modern technology should be the one prioritized by young people.  And if ever they have some money to invest in this technology such as Bitcoin, they should take the opportunity since we never know that this small amount we invested today maybe worth a huge amount in the future.

It will be worth it in the future, just like what OP is emphasizing while it is still early invest to bitcoin. Because that is what will happen, you will never expect that with that small amount that can bring you good profit in the future. And if you do still live with your parents/family make your mindset to focused in future things while applying appropriate move today like adopting and investing to bitcoin.
4133  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: June 07, 2017, 08:25:30 PM
I think they are both at par in terms of the risk but the rate of occurrence of the risk differ because gambling can drain your pocket in an instance whereas trading is gradual.

Yes they have the same risk but in trading it can also hurt your feeling when you saw your trades are starting to go negative. So for me, they are just both and I just realized it today that when I'm trading it's not that different to gambling, it's like a legit way of gambling though both has risk and it's going to be up to your understanding.

I think hey have different level of risk.  Having the skill based gambling more risky.  In trading we can have our exit whenever our trade is not doing well.  Aside from that we can always take advantage of fluctuation to get a profit or lessen our loses.  There is none like this in skill based gambling.  It is either win or lose.

We can consider that advantage in trading when it comes to exiting the process. When you earned some decent amount from your trades, you can just simply get out of your room and turn off your computer and even you lose, you know you can recover it with other alt coins that you are trading. But in gambling, you will be forced to recover it.
That's the big difference when you are a trader because you can still recover easily with a different asset that will result to an overall profit. In gambling you have to play the game game again and again and that house edge will still remain which is your weakness that's why you lose.
Let's mature, gambling in casinos are just for fun while trading is the road to financial success.

It's the advantage of trading, you can lose a little by little but in gambling, once you started to gamble you can't notice that you are starting to lose a lot in a fast progress. Gambling in casino's is for fun but many gamblers treat as their main source of income and the problem is starting there, better to treat full time in trading.
4134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 07, 2017, 08:00:58 PM
Don`t want to think a second about placing bet on Cavs tonight. Bookmakers gave us a gift in 2.4 odd on Cleveland victory. No mater how strong and secure GS looks like, this game is The Game for Cavs. Home court, their fans... they have them tonight. Lets go Cavs. Give us some excitement. No neutral NBA fan would like to see short finale series.

Still having faith in Cavs and with those advantages they've got for this game 3 I'm excited on how they will nail this game. I want them to win this game well just like what I said before, I still believe they can make this series into tie after winning this game 3. But if the result isn't that good and they still lose at their home court, no more hopes for them.
4135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: June 07, 2017, 07:50:17 PM
Feelings that can not be expressed in words, happy, satisfied what I have, hoping every game always won it   Grin

This is what I'm feeling and it's one of my best feeling ever. That is what I'm wishing every time I win in gambling but the sad fact about it is that there will be the time that we will lose. And you need to be ready about it but when you are winning just taste the essence and feeling of being a winner.

Thise facts need to be accepted and i think you have to expect that you will lose as much as you'll win in gambling. Winning feels way better if you've already felt how it is to lose money. And you definitely will know how it feels to lose so i winning would have more sense of elation. This probably is the reasob a lot of people get addicted to gambling

Losing is always expected to come but when you win, just try to get out the best feeling that you can ever do. Every gamblers did experience losing so that's why we are almost all overwhelmed, happy and has an unexplainable feeling when we are winning. It's like a dream come true or something that you never achieved before, that's the feeling.
4136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: June 06, 2017, 04:15:35 AM
Feelings that can not be expressed in words, happy, satisfied what I have, hoping every game always won it   Grin

This is what I'm feeling and it's one of my best feeling ever. That is what I'm wishing every time I win in gambling but the sad fact about it is that there will be the time that we will lose. And you need to be ready about it but when you are winning just taste the essence and feeling of being a winner.
4137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: June 06, 2017, 03:42:50 AM
in the second game Cleveland will try to play better than the first game and forget about it . it's true that the Golden State Warriors are strong in their home but if Irving and James do their best they can win this game . it's really hard to bet for who will be the winner ! i'm waiting for this game .

Both teams are strong and they will always play the best that they can and with this finals, the reputation, money, award and recognition is at hand. Looks like everyone seems to be talking about the home court advantage that each team is enjoying. Well the game is on for later, few more hours left, I will watch it while I'm on duty later.  Cheesy
This game will determine if the cavaliers can stay in this series, they have been dominated in game 1 and I think they are cooking up with a good plan to at least limit the warriors, Durant was hot in game 1 so I don't expect he will be in game 2. Lebron James has bigger stake in this NBA Finals, he was a great player and he needs to live up with his reputation, what would the industry say if they will be hammered again.

After game 2, many are now thinking that it will be a sweep and this will be one of the most disgusting series of Cavs. But it is only for those people that make themselves as "sports analysts" just because they have watched the finals. But well Lebron is a good player and I'm not his fan but I know he will make this series into tie.
Yeah Lebron is a good player and Game 2 was the best finals of Lebron and K.Love as well. But it's not enough to beat the offense of GSW. Others are struggling including Irving while their opponents all was contributing even the bench. It will be a sweep if they can't stop the offense of GSW.

Players from the past also saying GSW offense is one the best offense in NBA history.

Golden State Warrior is well known for their offensive plays and the Cav's did played well and yes, it is not enough for them to do so. Many factors affected the game for the Cavaliers but I know they will answer those 2 games with 2 another games at their home court advantage. Exciting for the game 3 if this game Cav's still lose, I lose my hope for them.
4138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: June 06, 2017, 03:06:11 AM
When this thread was first started, then the answer was YES.  Now it's a definite NO.  I'm sure that everyone is well aware of bitcoin's current issues and the high transaction fees are no longer worth it.


It is still the future of online gambling. Let's try to remove first about the current issues and let's just absorb the good thing about it's anonymity, without requiring us to input information needed for a transaction. I can say that bitcoin is still the future of online gambling and those fees are just normal thing, don't expect everything to become free and cheap forever.

It should be but with the involvement of altcoins in the gambling industry, bitcoin now have a competitor.  More and more people are using altcoins due to the faster transaction and cheaper transaction fee.  If Bitcoin scalability is not fixed then, I think it is another altcoin that is the future of online gambling

Competitions are everywhere and for some other gamblers they are some that prefer to gamble with ETH or any other alt coins. But bitcoin will always be the medium of gamblers to pay or deposit for their gambling activity. And that is the reason why others just want to gamble with alt coins but still they prefer bitcoin.
4139  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: June 06, 2017, 02:33:38 AM
I think they are both at par in terms of the risk but the rate of occurrence of the risk differ because gambling can drain your pocket in an instance whereas trading is gradual.

Yes they have the same risk but in trading it can also hurt your feeling when you saw your trades are starting to go negative. So for me, they are just both and I just realized it today that when I'm trading it's not that different to gambling, it's like a legit way of gambling though both has risk and it's going to be up to your understanding.

I think hey have different level of risk.  Having the skill based gambling more risky.  In trading we can have our exit whenever our trade is not doing well.  Aside from that we can always take advantage of fluctuation to get a profit or lessen our loses.  There is none like this in skill based gambling.  It is either win or lose.

We can consider that advantage in trading when it comes to exiting the process. When you earned some decent amount from your trades, you can just simply get out of your room and turn off your computer and even you lose, you know you can recover it with other alt coins that you are trading. But in gambling, you will be forced to recover it.
4140  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: June 06, 2017, 02:17:58 AM
You shouldn't encourage young ones to focus or to go all in on bitcoin. No matter how great a thing was if abused it will only cause problems. They should try Bitcoin don't go all in it's only my opinion but it is still depends on one's person perspective.

Modern technology is what the young people now are into it. And bitcoin is a product of modern technology, there's nothing wrong if we will introduce bitcoin to the young ones. While they are young, it's good for them to have some knowledge about bitcoin so that they will have the idea that can earn through crypto currency.

You don't even necessarily have to learn Bitcoin because you want to earn but you can learn to use it for convenience sake. It's a currency and if you get to know how to use it to send and receive money I guess it's worth it so we can show the young ones how to use it without monetizing it for them to know.

You want to earn and you need to study about it. And for those young people, they need to study it first. So that's why with what you have said of "don't even necessarily have to learn" is vague. Young people while growing needs to adopt and study this great currency. Actually there are a lot of way for them to enjoy bitcoin.
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