"Because of unexpected technical difficulties, we've had to postpone the batch release to 11AM on 11 August (GMT+8)"
via Twitter lol
LOL.. finally they give up. They need to upgrade or temporary host somewhere else than can hold this load. Tomorrow will be another hell F5 army Worse than that. I can see this happening with ALL their products...say L3+'s next week or so. what a cluster Maybe the finally reached a point to update the shop server hopefully.
the nightmare scenario is that not even folk in China could get in...if they could get in...likely they would have just gone with being sold out and we could lump it...so if that is the case we are truly screwed on further products in demand....at the wrong end of the world |
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They just pop'd this on twitter
Because of unexpected technical difficulties, we've had to postpone the batch release to 11AM on 11 August (GMT+8)
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well that sucks..but then again I still think 1,500 bucks is too high for the slam of difficulty ..at end of sept and oct in X11 probably worse if the L3+ rumor at 30gh is correct for 2,199 sheesh might be sold out already huh?  wtf is this shit. Complete offline from germany. Cant do anything.
well don't feel alone in your pain..no one in USA could swing it either it seems |
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WHAT D3+ where is?
he's speculating |
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Chinese firewall?
If so it has been 1/2 hour...thus they are likely sold out already. (munches snacks...all pleased with self not getting any ...er ..wait...this will happen with all products! Ack!) sh*t scared self for future orders on ALL PRODUCTS FROM THEM...continuing to be this cluster...no work around must be nice when you make all the equip......everyone slam's your site..unless you are 1/2 world away |
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For a bunch of electrical engineers, they are really bad at network engineering. You'd think they could figure this simple stuff out.
They really don't give a f*ck..it is bitmain....they will sell out anyway ...so who cares if 1/2 the world can't get in why expand a website what will sell out in Asia w/o any upgrade.....frack us (bitmain tm we do evil well) edit: have to watch myself..it is like the only girl on the island....everyone wants her (I'm not paying 1,600 bucks damn it ..no matter how much lust is going on) |
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heh.getting worse.now I get 503 error or whatever... before it was just connection timed out No D3 shown on sale page
S9
L3+
Router
then it died.. error
the folk at bitmain are either cursing or laughing their ass off...myself I think they are laughing |
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I've luckely got 3 D3s for 800$ each !!! . . . . . . . . . . . . Just joking. Connection timeout..  Ack! not funny...not funny at all!!!!! Ack! edit: what am I saying..I'm not even planning to get one.....(not at 1,600 bucks) |
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No D3 are shown on the sale page  hell....they may have a problem getting their page up for the D3 ...likely waiting for the load to lessen (unlikely) again at 1,600 bucks not getting one...but hell for all I know they may lower price thus lurking (not lurking very well...can't even get to sales page too lurk) |
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I can't load either, how many are you guys planning to get from this batch?
I'm sitting here ...and they don't even have the D3+ product up yet..when that hits and everyone clicks that icon....man is it gonna explode..its bad enough on refresh ...all going to the 1 product page ..sheesh edit: the assumption is wrong...can't get to the product page....hangs lol  |
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Not sure if it is worth it...
However the webserver is at the edge of its capacity... so no chance.. as usual.
yeah...just lurking too...to add to the load at 1600 bucks I'm not getting one not on the site yet..i suppose when it comes back on the main page the www site will crash  anyway got a milkshake and chips...dinner and a movie...an ugly laggy movie...but still |
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T-minus 6.25ish hours to go. Think they will drop price or have a later ship date? I'm thinking about staying up and grabbing one. 4am my time... yuck.
Same, 4 am is brutal (I'm in Chicago). Lucky enough to have 2 on the Sept 18-25 ship date batch, but think I'm going to buy a couple more for the November ship. I think I would be surprised if they dropped price. I'll look. At $1,600 usd yet, it is doubtful I'll get any at that price. But I'm kinda Equipment desperate. Need the tax write offs, IF I supposedly can find equip to buy that makes sense A D3 unit,imho not so much. |
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Out of curiosity, why the plexiglass foundation? Just aesthetics or a heating reason? Anyway... These SC1's are looking more and more tempting... I wish this bull run would start already so I could more easily afford one. Someone lend me the cash?  I had some glass .the old type folk on old dressers...I put it down because of the cheap half assed controller board just sitting on the table KNC titan setup (sucks) so seems to keep it a bit cooler and a bit of anti-static me thinks...and looked better there then on the old dressers the workbench is like 200 bucks at sam's club and real frigging butcher block and heavy duty steel legs...also the shelves are menard's closet setup stuff works slick the PSU's are a buddies idea (maxumark) he found the bladed back plates with the computer protection guts of a regular PSU inside for over voltage protection etc pop'd them in the old knc Jupiter 550gh btc case and 15 AWG wire no y connectors needed 2580 watts at 94% eff (vs corsair1200i 91%) and cost 300 bucks for the works new....platinum also (equiv 1200i Corsair 1200 watt also 300 bucks only ran 1/2 a titan) thus a good hack and again as to siacoin they will either make it as a decentralized storage operation as they have planned, cheaper than the big boys, using ASICs for speed, security etc, transactions with the siacoin's themselves acting more as a token than a store of value...or we are all screwed. this project works as a bitcoin equiv of a decentralized storage with the ASIC's and siacoin as kinda tokens angle or it all goes poof...thus the ASIC's they have stated would not work as a gpu merge mined coin for the purposes they want to use this coin for .not enough control security etc so this is long term 2018 stuff ...or so in my limited way as how I see the project so far and I also BADLY needed the equip depreciation this year thus it is a gamble later brad |
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So, who hasnt sold their BCH ? I havent, dunno why not. Gut's telling me hodl.
I haven't sold any. It's part of my BTC and my Coins would feel incomplete without it. Well, my view, (likely dead wrong) is that if/when BTC goes to 10k ...this will be an alt and probably will go back to its ATH of what 800 bucks at worse? I doubt it is gonna die. Thus, if you hold long enough it should all come out to be even eventually. Then again, I know zip...just saying. |
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Wow this is great. What this SIA ASIC actually means to me:
OBELISK ASIC = 3 MONTHS ROI = PROFIT $$$
However, with more of the coin will in circulation, what impact will this have on SIA price?
Well...not sure that is gonna happen.....been buying ASIC's since 2013...thus....IF and I mean IF their ASIC equipment can ROI from say 10-12 months, I'd consider that a win, with the equip deduction, that in USA can all be taken that particular year. As to other silliness Well...I'm considering NOW, getting 2 more siacoin Obelisk SC-1 miners to make it an even 4 miners total. (1 in batch 100 and 1 at around 1300 mark..this 2 unit batch would probably be above 1500 mark) mainly because I need the equip deductions and BTC as I speak is at $3407 usd. Which comes out at 1.488 BTC or .744 btc each. Anyone else on who is considering same......(uncertainty loves company) Hats off to Searing for putting his money where his doubt usually is. Personally, I threw a bunch of crypto towards hardware that's FINALLY starting to arrive. I bought an Obelisk the first hour they went on sale, but haven't bought another one since. I'm hoping to buy 3 more when my crypto flow allows... and a(n irrational) part of me is worried they'll sell out before then... Luckily the sales counter seems to be on my side. On a side note Searing, if you're buying 4 SC1s... how do you plan on stacking your Sia when you're mining? Do you plan on holding Sia, or trading out of it? Reinvesting it in the SC2?... ... or maybe selling data storage at a reduced rate? A combination of all 4? yeah I pulled the trigger and got two more (see my pm to you) I added 2 tonite to make a total of 4 units. 1 in first 100 lot. 2nd in 1300 area and this last in the 1450 lot or so. no idea...just probably have them setup in a row on my miner table setup ...the titans should be doorstops in the basement by then or I'll put them with my main stuff at the data hall... I don't have data hall pics..but the setup by the dryer in the pics below is still going strong in the basement. All other hash is elsewhere. (ran out of data hall room) lostgonzo.imgur.com Again probably same setup with the 2580 server psu's in the old jupiter cases below for power. (notice no y adapters needed on Titans on the 1 server unit. 15awg wire.) anyway sent you a pm brad |
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Wow this is great. What this SIA ASIC actually means to me:
OBELISK ASIC = 3 MONTHS ROI = PROFIT $$$
However, with more of the coin will in circulation, what impact will this have on SIA price?
Well...not sure that is gonna happen.....been buying ASIC's since 2013...thus....IF and I mean IF their ASIC equipment can ROI from say 10-12 months, I'd consider that a win, with the equip deduction, that in USA can all be taken that particular year. As to other silliness Well...I'm considering NOW, getting 2 more siacoin Obelisk SC-1 miners to make it an even 4 miners total. (1 in batch 100 and 1 at around 1300 mark..this 2 unit batch would probably be above 1500 mark) mainly because I need the equip deductions and BTC as I speak is at $3407 usd. Which comes out at 1.488 BTC or .744 btc each. Anyone else on who is considering same......(uncertainty loves company) |
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Tarkin, something to be aware of: I think each supply is programmed slightly differently to take advantage of a master clock signal. The supplies beat at 180 degrees out of phase with each other, which is why you can't swap a top and bottom supply in a pair for a die. However I think each supply actually beats off an 8 phase clock. In other words:
First pair beats 0,180
Second pair beats 45,225
Third pair beats 90,270
Fourth pair beats 135,225
Result is the board runs like a friggin 8 phase power supply. No wonder the filter caps are small.
But it means each supply is programmed to be what it is based on it's position on the board. very clever.
C
Im pretty sure you are correct. From what Ericsson told me, each pair of DCDC's is configured as its own common current group, which I can see evidence of in certain registers of each DCDC. Also, it seems they use interleaving for each of the 4 groups, the interleaving w/ the combined common setting of automatic phase control in each group ... I think gives it the unique phases per board =) Does any of this help the 'magic' gen tarkin firmware from going in and doing some kinda diagnostic ..to get dead dies back in some manner (or say comes back with a list of recommended settings to attempt) long shot here...but I'm 'barely' following the conversation..so maybe all this work you are doing on this...that the above idea is 'implied' and I'm too far behind the curve on the tech speak to realize this as an aside you and lightfoot really need to get out more....find some new asics to toy with...contact bitmain or something ...god knows enough of the stuff could use some tweaks or how to fix ..that you guys know how to do..if given the proper specs and motivations |
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Look at what bitmain did to ibelink, baikal and innosilicon with the dash miners. Bitmain will ruin these companies with the d3, and noone thought bitmain would pursue x11, what if they pursue blake2b? Be very weary...
I dont think they will as SIA is just another ALT for them with almost zero value and Also by looking at the struggle for sale of Obelisk would have put off any company thinking about the same. They are not really intrested in Technology behind a coin, all they need is your $$$ and I dont think SIA will cut it for them. Couldn't have said it better myself... The only thing I'd add is that IF the day ever comes when Bitmain produces Blake2b ASICs... then nobody would be happier than first generation Obelisk customers. How does that make any sense? Well, if Bitmain decides that SiaCoin Asics are worth persuing, then the price of Sia would already be so high, and SiaCoin mining would be so profitable, that first generation Obelisk customers would have already made a pretty satoshi... That's basically what happened with Litecoin and Dash. Also if Bitmain was to show an interest (or be perceived as doing such), it would be likely imho that someone or many someones would develop MORE blake2b coins (assuming this is possible..for all I know blake2b is ONLY siacoin ..thus the b tag) that would open things up quite a bit imho...and make these miners more likely to mine something, even after say difficulty on siacoin proper may be too hard anyway, this is all speculation ... the way to look at these units is the way venture capitalists look at investing VC money..if the odds are about 50/50 or better...you jump in......(if over 50/50 everyone would be in already) and you HOPE it hits (say 1 out of 3 chance) ...if it hits you are golden... if not..you lose it all. Thus on anything like this 1 year in advance timeline...give them what money YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE on this speculative gamble...and mentally think of a nice campfire and toss all that money in...and walk away.... If it works you are surprised...if not ...well.....folks like us get few VC opportunities of any note to learn about....so at least you can say you 'man'd up' and lost on a VC gamble Again, even if the devs intentions are good....and they are honest etc...this whole thing could still go 'pear shaped' at any time...be aware.. (crypto always drama) |
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Well from my previous posts...it looks like NO L3+ units will be sold in the wee hours of China at our time of 4 am. (China Time 5pm CDT)
They seem?? to be only selling the Antminer D3 X11 miners then
Unless they drop the price again..it is unlikely I will get any..myself
anyway a heads up ..that I don't think the L3+'s are dumping on THAT day at least.
(the ways of bitmain are mysterious to me)
Seems like no more L3+. Focus on D3 Plus they might be working on 1024MB Scrypt miner. hmmmm...that makes me 'conflicted'...at 6000mh ....and no further say scrypt-pow miners until next year...(as an example) I'd be estatic....flat difficulty on the other hand with no equip deduction (at 50% rate to tax man) that would also hurt..add say an LTC pump to that ...er .... Ack! My own view is Bitmain will continue to pump out L3+'s month to month till they again get to Bitmain's warm and fuzzy 12-15 month ROI again. (evil tm bitmain) |
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Heh...went to the first post the OP of this thread posted....here it is below... I can safely say the OP 'nailed it' to say the least https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1907538.msg18928250#msg18928250I mean as I type this the price is $2453 usd for crying out loud. As long as the OP can tell the future...do I have any chance to be Natalie Portman's "love puppet"? |
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