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It won't work in IE8, and it shows a blank screen in Firefox 21.0 (I'm not seeing ant no-script or ghostery messages). win xp 64 bit
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I'm real curious as to the logic of how a "Liberty Dollar" is legally different from a "Linden Dollar", a Hong Kong Dollar, a Canadian Dollar, or an Australian Dollar.
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We shouldn't even be talking to the government... This is none of their business and it should stay that way.
Did you just say, "money isn't the governments business?" Money is the lifeblood of empire - and the dollar, the pound, the euro, and the yen all have blood poisoning. There is nothing backing them but faith, and when that faith collapses, it will be hilarious. |
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It would be really fun to fork the chain back to restore the coins to their rightful owner.
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Doug Jackson of e-gold bent over forwards, complying with every request, and still got it hard with no grease. There is no negotiating with terrorists. |
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Thanks for the clarification. I'll check out the googledoc.
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Sorry - kinda confused - thought Invictus was going to be an open discussion among interested parties, with mailing list. Heard from Charles, responded, didn't receive anything since. Now it seems a decision has been made in the dark.
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Luke, have you got a team of people who have vetted and accepted your proposal? It seems like this effort is diverging from the Invictus thread and thus dividing our efforts.
I would suggest you hold your 2 BTC and invest it in the P2P exchange being developed by the Invictus P2P Exchange group and help drive that.
If not I wish you the best with your effort and it will be interesting to see how two competing exchanges turn out!
Invictus Thread has gone quiet. I sent email to join list, haven't seen anything back. Is Invictus still active? |
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I asked as well, thought it could be a good service to offer, setting up Wordpress crowdfund sites with Ignition Deck which can accept Bitcoin. It looks like they are planning on adding other currencies as well, for multiple payment options for the same campaign..
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Looks like enough of us asked for it: from http://ignitiondeck.com/id/bitcoin-crowdfunding/ : One of the core principals of IgnitionDeck is that crowdfunding shouldn’t require a middleman. It’s for that reason we took our time before adopting 100% crowdfunding, and the same reason that we’ve agonized over every new feature and payment gateway.
One of the most frustrating portions of the crowdfunding and fundraising process is that of trying to negotiate with payment gateways in order to earn the approval to accept live transactions. While Stripe certainly makes this easy in the US, many traditional payment gateways are simply going out of their way to make it difficult for crowdfunders to get started.
On top of that, we’ve heard from hundreds of users who have struggled to find gateways that work in their country and/or support their currency of choice.
When you add processing fees on top, suddenly each consecutive option becomes less and less appealing.
Considering those factors against our core philosophy, combined with continued spurring from Bitcoiners in the crowd, we realized that harnessing the power of Bitcoin within the IgnitionDeck crowdfunding platform should be a no brainer.
Buying Bitcoin has never been simpler, and most Bitcoin to Bitcoin transactions are completely free. When they aren’t, the fees generally less than a third of a standard Paypal or credit card transaction fee. Better yet, Bitcoins live in the digital world, and because of that, are free from currency and international restrictions.
When you say it all at once, it might sound too good to be true, but that’s what makes it special.
We’re super excited to announce what we hope to be one of the most useful IgnitionDeck payment gateways in the bunch, IgnitionDeck Bitcoin Payments (requires IgnitionDeck 1.01). It works on its own, or with any of our current payment gateways. We believe in Bitcoin so much we’ll soon be adding the same functionality to our MemberDeck plugin, which will allow you to pay for our software with Bitcoins instead of cash.
Although we’re releasing this as a 1.0, we still have more plans in store. There are many more Bitcoin APIs we want to integrate, and we’re looking to support as many transaction types as we can. This is just the beginning of crowdfunding with Bitcoin and Ignitiondeck. |
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I don't know who 'your people' are, but it is a fact that the Allied governments killed more of their own citizens, over 20,000,000 people, than the Axis governments, about 12,000,000. These figures don't include other infractions, like the British invention of the modern concentration camp during the Boer Wars, the fire bombing of Dresden, the US genocide of the indigenous population...
My people are Russians -- Soviet Union at the time. Soviet casualties, military: 9-14 million, civilian: 12-17 million. So 21,000,000 minimum. You claim 20 million total for all Allies. Not even going to bother with the rest ... oh, why not: Dresden was an Axis, not an Allied city (Not "own people.") Get it? Boer wars, also known as Anglo-Boer wars, though curiously not Anglo-Anglo wars, or Boer-Boer wars. Care to guess why? (hint: Not own people!) And yes, Americans did slaughter indians, steal their land & did a whole bunch of other nastiness. (hint: not their own people again!) See how that works? Now stop trusting your research to guys with lightning bolts & 8s tattooed on their foreheads. Can't argue with you there - it only further proves the point that government is by far the leading cause of unnatural death - non-governmental terrorism, non-governmental organized crime, individual criminals, and the occasional nutjob mass shooter have a couple of hundred million in body count to go to match government as a cause of bulk megadeath. Democide only tallies government murdering its own citizens. War, of course, adds quite a bit more to the score. Even religion runs a distant second to government as a source of atrocity. Racking up body count for Jesus, Yahweh, or Allah was considered a ticket to a great afterlife, though from what I've seen, it looks like it'll be a pretty seedy neighborhood judging from the people most intent on going there. Terrorists are people who want to become governments, governments are terrorists who are already in power. |
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More like the German government, the Russian government, and the United States government are all mass murdering pathological entities whose actions caused the deaths of millions. One technique of whitewashing the horrific history of government is to place the blame on an individual or group, like Hitler and the Nazis, or Stalin, or Pol Pot, rather than on the government which actually committed the atrocity. Can we just agree that Hitler, Stalin, and Roosevelt were all dictators whose orders caused the deaths of millions?
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I don't know who 'your people' are, but it is a fact that the Allied governments killed more of their own citizens, over 20,000,000 people, than the Axis governments, about 12,000,000. These figures don't include other infractions, like the British invention of the modern concentration camp during the Boer Wars, the fire bombing of Dresden, the US genocide of the indigenous population...
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Flavius is one of those breeder boys you hear tap dancing in the next stall over while groaning with delight from the 12" kickstart vibrator shoved up his ass.
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People who seek to control other people's lives are sick to the core.
No one here needs my permission to operate a business or use the currency of their choice, so there is nothing anyone is ever going to be able to say to me that will convince me that anyone requires the permission of me plus 50% of the rest of the population to do these things.
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I read through it, looked interesting. I like the atomic exchange directly between blockchains. I would break it down into smaller components which are modularly expandable. I'd heard the term "Atomic", didn't know what it was until a few days ago, turns out it is exactly the capability I want to see in a p2p exchange client. I'm more interested in direct exchange, even if it isn't as fast as a trading exchange on a server.
The market dynamics will be interesting with the miners losing 50% of the incentive to mine to the dividends, but the market price may be higher due the dividends, so it may be a break even or even more profitable to mine.
I very much like the tying of mining capacity to RAM to discourage GPUs and ASICs. I'd rather see mining distributed even into mobile devices and Freedombox type mesh networking gateways.
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I have been following the p2p exchange discussions to catch up with the different proposals and projects. I have discussed a plan, PeerTrader, with some developers and posted it at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234043.msg2471088#msg2471088 . The closest I've seen so far are Marketcoin and Bitshares. I appreciate this thread to try to arrive at a common goal and plan to develop this critical piece of cryptocurrency infrastructure. In what way do you see BitShares falling short of the ideal (particularly in light of the posts in this thread in the past 24 hours). BitShares has absorbed the inter-chain trading of MarketCoin and expanded/enhanced upon it so I would like to know what else is missing so I can work to address it. So far I've liked everything I've read on BitShares. Is there a whitepaper or a link to some more information on it? |
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I have been following the p2p exchange discussions to catch up with the different proposals and projects. I have discussed a plan, PeerTrader, with some developers and posted it at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234043.msg2471088#msg2471088 . The closest I've seen so far are Marketcoin and Bitshares. I appreciate this thread to try to arrive at a common goal and plan to develop this critical piece of cryptocurrency infrastructure. |
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