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421  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2015, 01:42:47 AM
Newbie jail would be great. But the Vapid One would probably commit suicide.
422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2015, 12:52:46 AM
Generally just report your posts to the moderators for summary deletion.
423  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 06:00:21 PM
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this emperor ain't got no clothes Undecided

Double negative? So he is wearing clothes, yay!
424  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
"You have reported 190 posts with 91% accuracy"

Take the hint..

" You have reported 137 posts with 86% accuracy".

You are doing better than me inca. In a few moments the mentally disordered can make a new account again. What was the point where it all went wrong in it's life?

Nice to see you ivanhoe. Just a reflex for me now.
425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 04:23:49 PM
Did I miss the bottom? Smiley Grin

Edit: gotmilk i agree with your sentiments about the move down from 400, though i would say from the high 680s if you look at the bitfinex leverage levels.
426  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 03:02:47 PM
I'm always astonished about the bullish self confidence...
...but what is this ever lasting and repeating bullishness where market did not confirm any direction?

You are posting on a bitcoin enthusiast forum. Why are you surprised people are enthusiastic and confident about bitcoin? Serious question because you post here often enough to have grasped that by now.

Nearly a billion projected USD VC capital investment for 2015. The bitcoin community is still extremely small for those kind of valuations. Zoom out on the long term price chart.

Finally and most importantly (for me at least) this is my play money to do with as I wish. My shares are never going to do anything exciting except plod along or eventually crash when the central bank spigot is turned on. Property is just for living in or renting out. Bitcoin is exciting and for ideological reasons is attractive also. Smiley

Okay. Lets try to talk a bit respectful:

You maybe dont believe, but Im also a bitcoin enthusiast. Being a bitcoin enthusiast does not mean that I cant keep my objectivity like falling in love with a woman - doing and thinking crazy shit and shouting out my love. Thats like a maniac-depression and has no place for me in investments.

I saw here a lot of people calling themself bulls and shouting out their own sentiment in a crazy manner on all mayor consildations since the ath. Afterwards the consolidation resulted bearish and a lot of these people disapeared from this forum but Im still here. And I will stay here if the price goes down to 50$ or if it goes up to 32,000$.

Im a long term bull, a real bitcoin bull - and no bitcoin-hipster. At the same time I try to trade the market without any delusion that my sentiment or my (bearish or bullish) mantras have any effect on the price. I try to take the swings and the direction how it comes...and if it goes down even harder...I dont care....I try to take my profit of this...and keep bullish in long term. 200, 150, 100, 50, 40...I dont care.



Thanks for that post.. I actually don't think we are too far apart. I will buy you a beer if we ever meet Smiley
427  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 03:00:09 PM

It is common parlance to refer to those who benefit from the price rising and falling as bulls and bears. I am taking a guess that those with a bearish position have already sold short or simply sold their position. That is the reason why you have wormed back out the wood work, right?


Informed players are bulls or bears based on the position they have already taken - and they take this position based on where they speculate the market will go.  

No intelligent person plays the market continuously as one or the other. Except people like you, and the other permabulltards who litter this thread, hating anyone who tries to take a more balanced view.

Yes, I have played my position, as I posted on Tuesday.  But I only buy and sell - I don't take short positions, and I certainly don't leverage. But I also spend far more time adopting my business model to include bitcoin as a method of exchange. If everyone spent more time trying to live more with bitcoin, we could develop it much further, instead of just standing on the sidelines hoping to be rich.

Emboldened text: So when i said you have already taken your position and now are trumpeting improbable price collapses on here you are doing that to talk your book, right? Thought so. Funny that you disappeared as the price rose from 219 to 316 Smiley

Oh and owning a commodity or share over the longer term because there is a long term bullish trend is not unintelligent. It just isn't churning trading in and out of a position trying to catch every little up and downmove. Damn those lucky microsoft/apple/amazon/'name any stock with a long term bull market' investors! Most traders lose and lose very badly including most on this thread by trying to time the market.

Btw if you are going to accuse people on a bitcoin forum who are bullish about bitcoin as hating and then at least think about your post structure and move the word 'permabulltard' into a different sentence. Smiley
428  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 02:35:10 PM
Cheesy
I'm always astonished about the bullish self confidence...

...like the price never did break out of the logarithmic downtrend before only to form a new logarithmic downtrend.

I don't even say that there's absolutely no chance for a new mayor bull market from here (what would be the contrarian side of mental deficiency)...

...but what is this ever lasting and repeating bullishness where market did not confirm any direction? The same happened within all mayor consolidations since the ath. Is this an effect of smoking too much crack?

I'm never amazed that you are consistently wrong...yet trading Bitcoin is fun and easy!  

Yeah, I'm constantly wrong since ~800.  Cheesy

Well your recent performance hasn't. Smiley
429  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 02:20:44 PM
I'm always astonished about the bullish self confidence...
...but what is this ever lasting and repeating bullishness where market did not confirm any direction?

You are posting on a bitcoin enthusiast forum. Why are you surprised people are enthusiastic and confident about bitcoin? Serious question because you post here often enough to have grasped that by now.

Nearly a billion projected USD VC capital investment for 2015. The bitcoin community is still extremely small for those kind of valuations. Zoom out on the long term price chart.

Finally and most importantly (for me at least) this is my play money to do with as I wish. My shares are never going to do anything exciting except plod along or eventually crash when the central bank spigot is turned on. Property is just for living in or renting out. Bitcoin is exciting and for ideological reasons is attractive also. Smiley
430  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 01:54:12 PM

Bears need some pretty heroic selling to move the price down. It may come. But not from any of you lot.

You really need to get some distance from this persecution complex you have. Nobody is manipulating buys or sells. They are simply informed players reacting to the market with reference to the factors acting upon it.

You see ( and pray) that the market will keep going up so that your little bag will make you rich. Everyone else sees it as an organic, complex market of shifts and swings charting the slow adoption of a new way of exchanging value.



Emboldened text: persecution complex = stop prattling nonsense. The market is blatantly manipulated, not that I have mentioned that in my last few posts so that is basically irrelevent.

It is common parlance to refer to those who benefit from the price rising and falling as bulls and bears. I am taking a guess that those with a bearish position have already sold short or simply sold their position. That is the reason why you have wormed back out the wood work, right?

edit: oh and the sig is for charity nlc..look it up in the dictionary (though i agree it is a bit annoying and i may not be able to carry on too long). Imagine what you could have done with those 6000 posts of shit your left on this forum in 2014.
431  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 01:43:59 PM
So Mark is basically the creator of the May/April 2013 bubble and the December 2013 bubble...


Lets see where the price of btc really bottoms out...

I suspect we are going to hear this a lot from bears on here in the coming days and weeks. This and the 'Japanese bankruptcy court to force liquidation of 200,000 coins!!!' and 'when is the next USMS auction' is really all the bears have now.

Bears need some pretty heroic selling to move the price down. It may come. But not from any of you lot.

well that's a lot more then the bulls with their "Pray to the Moon train" tactic have...

I don't know how much the forum sentiment reflects the real market behavior. Often I think that I overestimate the influence of bullish delusion found here...

...but if take it as a serious indicator I would say that ~315 was the top before a new mayor low.

you've forgotten we've still broke the downtrend with a flatphase some weeks ago.

+1.

And failure of bears to break the price down out of the 270's is extremely bullish for the rest of the year. So sell away people (we know you already have)..
432  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 01:39:39 PM
So Mark is basically the creator of the May/April 2013 bubble and the December 2013 bubble...


Lets see where the price of btc really bottoms out...

I suspect we are going to hear this a lot from bears on here in the coming days and weeks. This and the 'Japanese bankruptcy court to force liquidation of 200,000 coins!!!' and 'when is the next USMS auction' is really all the bears have now.

Bears need some pretty heroic selling to move the price down. It may come. But not from any of you lot.

well that's a lot more then the bulls "Pray to the Moon train" have...

Except:

After a long multi month bear market technically bitcoin has broken out of all bearish trendlines and put in a series of higher highs and higher lows..(with a yearly high 3 weeks ago)
Price has been supported at these levels by the market (200-300) without collapsing except on a single high volume reversal (following a hack) for over two years..
Halving approaching which will reduce new coin inflation by 50% and reduce exchange supply accordingly.

The onus is on bears to find a reason for the price to collapse. Bulls can support the price easily in this range and have done for years. The market is now comprised numerous exchanges, not a single point of failure. Soon supporting the price in this range will become twice as easy. I haven't even mentioned ETN's, potential ETF's and the 0.9 billion USD VC investment projected for this year.

Karpeles going to prison will probably be looked back upon as a bullish event where bitcoin leaves behind MtGox once and for all..
433  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 01:28:11 PM
So Mark is basically the creator of the May/April 2013 bubble and the December 2013 bubble...


Lets see where the price of btc really bottoms out...

I suspect we are going to hear this a lot from bears on here in the coming days and weeks. This and the 'Japanese bankruptcy court to force liquidation of 200,000 coins!!!' and 'when is the next USMS auction' is really all the bears have now.

Bears need some pretty heroic selling to move the price down. It may come. But not from any of you lot.
434  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
I don't think nlc got the memo that 160 was the bottom. Poor sod.
435  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are coming up on two years since the 1200 spike, longest no-bubble run? on: August 01, 2015, 01:13:00 PM
What is the longest run without a new ATH price bubble?

I am thinking that we are in a new era of Bitcoin. Can it stay like this for years?

No, it can't stay like this for years. The longer we stay below 315$, the more likely is to see a new low, about 140$ and later possibly 80$.

Now that is simply not true. But now is a good time for bearish FUD, with Karpeles arrested, so crack on.
436  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 01, 2015, 01:10:02 PM
It is worth mentioning that since it's formation (252 breakout) our bullish support has still to be tested! Right now we are 1 box higher.
Wooha, almost hit! 276.56$

Where you have your bullish support?
276 and it could go even down to 270. At 268 is broken on the 4$ box size HL chart.

The selling will have to intensify to get through the mountain on the bid side, if real.
This low volume drift won't cut it.
437  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2015, 01:06:51 PM
Right campers we are approaching crunch time. Will bitcoin hold the line or not. I suspect it will. Everyone selling now is doing so to the man with 10000 coins on the bidside orderbook right now.

Place your bets..
438  Economy / Speculation / Re: We are coming up on two years since the 1200 spike, longest no-bubble run? on: August 01, 2015, 09:53:59 AM
What is the longest run without a new ATH price bubble?

I am thinking that we are in a new era of Bitcoin. Can it stay like this for years?

If bitcoin is a captured market then greed will eventually rule the day, again.

If bitcoin is a free market then greed will eventually rule the day, again.

439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Back to 220-240? on: August 01, 2015, 09:14:36 AM
This thing is coming down faster than expected. Already broke that 'solid' $280 that many of you called.

I'll just leave this here..

Seems the bagholders can no longer counter the immense selling pressure...
Prepare for a fight to stay above 200 the next two days.

Us bagholders seemed to counter that immense selling pressure as the price promptly moved up 100 dollars.
440  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we going to see $1000 again? on: August 01, 2015, 09:12:07 AM
Uhh  no. If we follow real supply and demand bit coin wouldn't be worth more than $50 at best.
This market is being rigged from all possible sides.
If you still don't get it after 6 years... people have rejected bit coin and moved on to superior technology.

Uhh yes. The market sets the price where supply and demand meet. The exchange price is the market price and not some number you pulled out of your ass.

The market has disagreed with you for nearly 3 years. Guess what? You're wrong.
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