Incidentally, one way to structure your thoughts might be to make a list of all the negatives; of all the questions you might receive, and answer each one of them in a way that is properly convincing.

So, someone might ask "What if someone finds a flaw in Bitcoin" or more sophisticated "What if the Block size limit becomes an issue".. well there are alternatives. Have a depth of awareness that you don't need.. understand PPC and Proof of Stake. Present perhaps 10% of what you know and get them to pay for the other 90%.

It wasn't what you said, it was both that you said too little and took forever to say it.

Example:

Listener gets from that a vague suggestion


This isn't an intellectual task. Being clever, is a mix of knowledge; intelligence; and experience. What you are a wanting to do, is to bring knowledge and experience to those that have little. Forget the intellect, just focus on those two.

If there is an opportunity for a company to use Bitcoin that will help them reach new customers or better engage current ones; if doing so usefully enhances what they are already doing for only a small risk, then that's an easy sell. You show them the idea; you talk them through what it can do for them, then you consider how they move from where they are to where they want to go and suggest how you can help.

Don't expect to bore your audience! Expect them to become as excited as you are.
Tease the audience with a positive and back it up with evidence.


So more like this..

Bitcoin is an online currency, that is growing rapidly and providing an exciting alternative way of transferring money around the world. It has zero or trivial transfer fees relative to traditional banking and offers the opportunity for companies like yours to deal with customers around the world without having to worry about exchange rates. Bitcoin represents the future of money online; it's secure and fast [cough] (.. can be fast if you use green addresses).

Using Bitcoin is easy. I've done it myself - only last night I paid for my restaurant bill with Bitcoin; took out my phone, scanned the Bitcoin address from the bill and tipped the waitress.

As a business accepting Bitcoin allows you to issue a new address per customer (the Finance and Statistics dept just creamed themselves).

Each wallet can hold many addresses. Payments are secure; once the payment is sent, it is confirmed by the network (avoid complexity) and it cannot be reversed.

The Bitcoin protocol that makes all this possible is capable of a lot more. [insert what you learn about that here]

The future is exciting and it involves your customers using Bitcoin.

etc

Yes but your guesses are so often wrong..

Ok, you've caught me when I've nothing better to do..

If you want to sell an idea, you need to talk from the other person's perspective. You won't convince anyone of consequence with any of that above but you might bore them to death. If wanting something was everything, then we'd all be rich.

Clear communication follows from clear thinking. You evidently don't know enough of Bitcoin to sell the idea, let alone the opportunity specific to a particular company. They'd learn more and faster, looking on Google for 10 mins. Hell, if they invited you to present, they'd probably already know more! What are you selling?..an education to basic level!? Unless you are offering something they can't do for themselves, then you're wasting their time.


> So, to recap, Bitcoin is an open-source, deflationary, peer-to-peer, digital cryptocurrency that is decentralized. Please take a moment to let this concept sink in. In my opinion this is huge, and I hope to have explained why by the end of this paper.

Your opinion and hope, is not sufficient to interest anyone.

Go back and read it, as if you were those that you want to present to. Be cynical and critical and realistic. Consider how you are providing no facts; no evidence; and only a hope and a prayer.

In sales there is a thought "Keep It Simple Stupid". Take your audience by the hand, from where they are, to where they will want to go. Do it in easy steps with good continuity. Don't jump from one thought to the next and assume they understand what you are getting at.

Know your audience. Either they will be geeks who will want the technical detail or they will be simple folk relative to technology wanting reasons that there is an opportunity for them to consider Bitcoin as part of their future. The best sales are easy; a clear example of how their peers are actioning sales with Bitcoin right now in the real world.

But first you need to know what you are talking of.. Do you own Bitcoins? Have you spent Bitcoins in the real world and online? Have you done that with your phone; have you done it with paper. What experience do you have that your audience does not? What makes you unique or rare enough to be useful? Bitcoin is unique but right now; from what's above, you look to be someone who's been on the internet for a week.

Also, you have no idea what peer review and research is, if that above is the basis of what you want to submit.

Enthusiasm is not enough.. good luck turning that into effort and learning, that does become useful.

Perhaps each Sourceforge account had different privileges; one admin and one regular contributor. An experienced user would, by default, prefer to avoid unintended admin errors. So, this is proof of nothing. We do know Satoshi is clever, so their anonymity is a choice and not one we have much chance of checking. Also, it is better this way; celebrity we don't need, as that brings personality and other weaknesses.

I suspect, given the quality, that it's simply a parallel output from a government project, with all the expected strong methods; references; and quality output. A single mind would produce better more consistent output but it's very likely built on the shoulders of other well resourced and experienced developments. I'd be surprised if the Governments hadn't been looking at what internet money could be. Potentially then it is a deliberate publish too; for all the default to conspiracy, there are good people in government and occasionally they get it right.. or maybe it's a mix of all the above. Does the source matter - I don't think so.

Thanks. Incidentally, I notice there is a bitcoind in Synaptic v0.3.24~dfsg-1, if the PPA not applied.

So, I just reset my OS and was reinstalling Bitcoin, deamon and -qt

Drawing source from https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.git as usual, it all went well but I'm rather surprised that the -qt declares the version as pre-release test, as I'd expected that bitcoin.git to be a good flavour.

In orange the is the message : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications". This is apparently v0.8.2rc1-beta. I built the -qt through QT Creator this time having not been able to recall the method to make qmake work.. but would expect the same form to follow from qmake.

Is this then not a stable version on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.git? Shouldn't that only ever be a stable version from there??

 

If not https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.git, then where should I get the good flavour from?

The planet where people are innocent until proven guilty.
No-one appeared to had called him out on having not followed through on the excuse of having been hacked.
Since he didn't do what he suggested, we now do know about anyroll.

Trolls succeed only because people are lazy and don't consider the facts. Jumping to conclusions only helps you win a minority of times.

If anyroll's bitcointalk account was hacked, then did he come back and announce a winner that did get paid?

Ah.. too much grey I didn't even see the Child Boards listed.

I'd much rather see one forum for each coin, as the first post was teasing. That might encourage more sensible consideration of each coin and less noise about others.

I don't mine or have an ASIC. Also ASICs apparently will be able to do scrypt later.
No, I just don't see yet what LTC offers, that is distinct enough not to be simply bound to BTC fate.

It's widely accepted that miners like LTC.. go figure.. but is that sufficient?

I'm not sure LTC is any more practical than BTC. BTC using green addresses would work fine. Real world use needs those like WU or gyft, to make it easy to integrate with current fiat spending.. and more than just at a few stores that accept gift cards.. so a debit card equivalent.

We need practical real world solutions, not more alt-coins.. that's also where the real money will be now.

If BTC has issues then LTC will surely follow.. along with all the others; there's always potential for another coin to become the long term solution to all problems but I don't see any beating the simple combination of BTC+PPC just yet.

Believe it when I see it.. that's sounds like hype.. prepumping.. is that where we're at now??

LTC is a successful pump but I don't see the value in it and then there is a simple risk of a big slip as BTC becomes real world useful or as PPC becomes seen as a real hedge against BTC. Why would a merchant want to bother with LTC when they can just accept BTC? What functional advantage does LTC have - novelty value aside?

Point 3 is not correct??.. is it not less likely than other coins now.. see Sunny King post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101820.msg2013892#msg2013892
 but you have LTC tattooed on your nick, so perhaps you want to believe LTC is different from BTC and won't suffer if Proof of Work seizes up.

I can't see the error in that wording - is bought or sold not the same event, from different perspectives?

I was just thinking from the miners perspective, what control and consideration they were giving to this.
That prompted by a thought that perhaps the MtGox 0.01 and other fractions were not ddos but miners learning clumsily.

If we know the number of coins being produced and we know the volume of sales, might we also have an indication of whether the price is in balance?

If there are fewer coins being produced that are being bought currently, then perhaps we might expect a rise as the market tries to find balance; even before we see more customers?
If there are more coins being produced than are being sold; regardless of whether they are in the market or being held by miners, then perhaps that suggests the price might fall; or more correctly that the market needs to see more customers, in order to find balance?

Would it be simple to gather that data or is that already too difficult with so many new exchanges??

d'oh! Hoping now winning are split

Physical coins have a real edge..

Potentially some trusted source, like Government, could make physical coins equivalent to their own cryptocurrency.. stamping them with a unique number.

Most likely Bitcoin will become an established parallel and perhaps in a couple of decades once it's confirmed itself, then we'll be born with an amount of BTC to our name and utopia will naturally follow.. it's all good