Wanker. And that includes your second post.

Anarchism is socialist. Has that blown your mind?

Basically the key to all this is whether or not you believe the initiation of coercion is an acceptable method of solving social problems.  The only way people are going to own more capital than they can "use" is through coercion.

If you have 1000 houses¹, and I wish to live in one that you aren't using, there are a few things that can happen (here's two). I can agree that you are the "owner" (even though you don't use the house), and pay you a certain amount of rent for the privilege of living in "your" house. Or, I can say that you aren't the owner, the house doesn't have an owner because it isn't being used. I then move in and ignore your claims of ownership.

In the second case, whether or not the community will support your "ownership" will be based on how well they know and like you. If you only turn up twice a year to collect rent (or not at all, and send goons to collect the rent) they'll probably support my claims of ownership, because I'm actually using the house. In this case, you will have to forcibly evict me (use coercion) to get "your" "property" back.

As for the rest of your post, I think it's sufficient to say "I disagree". Mafia-type society is where a "family" basically runs an area, using force and coercion to make the point. It's not just selling "blackmarket" goods, it's also protection rackets (beautiful shop you got here, be a shame if anything happened to it) etc.
From Wikipedia
This seems suspiciously like what I've read the private protection agencies are meant to do. The Wikipedia article suggests that others have made the same point. Nozick, in "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" (which I've mentioned before on this board) also talks about how these PPA's would effectively form a state.


Also, I reject your claim that companies have a vested interest in providing the best service to customers. Companies have a vested interested in making as much money as possible. If they can find a cheaper way of making money rather than provide good service² then they will do that.


Footnotes:
1. I think we can both agree this is more than can be "used" by a single individual, but if you don't agree, assume X, where X is a number that you do think can be "used" by a single individual.
2. E.g. by locking in customers by being the only supplier of software that can read files produced by their software - see MicroSoft etc.

I'm an anarchist. But for people too stupid to listen to my explanation of what I mean by the term, I also use the term libertarian socialist.

Lol, gambling. The odds are always in the house's favor.

The psychology is really well known too, and is demonstrated in this thread. I'll just have one more try. I'm going to win sooner or later. And that person won, so it is possible!

But even if you win 48% of the time, that's still less than half, so the more you play, the more you are likely to loose.

Learn poker and go and play that. At least, if you are good, you have more than a 50% chance of winning.

I'm just having a look at the post a job form, I think you should distinguish between "small" "medium" and "huge" somehow (not JavaScript). In fact, your site should work without JavaScript, I notice the form has some problems if JS is not enabled.
Don't require email, as some people might want to be a bit anonymous. (Though they could always use my service to handout anonymous email addresses...)
You need to post in big letters that cookies should be enabled.

Please don't use the same favicon as this site, as it is confusing me (though I note you are looking for a logo).

You should really filter exact duplicates if you can.

Yeah, it's more the whole infinite accumulation of property that is permitted and encouraged that would cause mafia type activities I think.

You inevitably need protection organizations to help protect your property, because you can't do it yourself. The reason you can't do it yourself is that you have too much of it.

If I have one house, I can live in it, and defend it. I can also rely on the local community to help me out, 'cause I would help them out.

If I have two houses, I can live in one. I can't live in the other, so I have to pay someone else to look after it. The community around that second house isn't going to care what happens to the house as much, because they don't have any personal contact with the owner.

If I have 1000 houses (perfectly possible in an infinite accumulation capitalist society), I have to pay other people to look after them. Based on humanities previous experiences with societies where infinite resource accumulation happened, I'd have to say that it doesn't bode well for those who don't have.

But, you know, I think we have different priorities, in which case arguing is pretty pointless.

I think you are stevenbucks and were to stupid not to choose a different name.

Also, you can't prove that you aren't stevenbucks, just like you can't prove that the Invisible Pink Unicorn doesn't exist. Then again, I can't prove that I'm not stevenbucks either. Ooh, bugger.

It's an attitude thing. A culture of sharing, giving, of not exploiting, etc. along with an anarchist society, 'd be nice.

no to the gold cult, I think you're being really unfair to the "anarcho" capitalists. They aren't fascists. It's just that their ideas would result in a mafia run society.

(Not that I like the government any more than they do.)

I did some work for bitjet and he paid promptly and on time as requested. +1

Also, the price per word in the real word is normally around 5 cents, $50 for 1000 words. So 50BTC is a perfectly fine price. If the copy is good enough, it might be worth even more than that. (Not associated with the individual, just sick of seeing people price themselves too low in bitcoins. Myself included.)

It sounds like to me the aforementioned Down and out in the Magic Kingdom. However, I disagree with your use of the word "obliged". Also, even if someone has a low or negative karma, killing them should still be objected too.

Also check out "And Then There Were None" (simple readers guide which is a non-automated system of life without money.

You're so right! I mean, it would be unthinkable that any females would use Bitcoin.

Notice the very important word in what you quoted, "if". The person basically said I had the same ideas as Stalin. Which is a really stupid thing to say, 'cause, like, I had already said I disliked government. Moreover, I had said nothing of the sort. Moreover, I've engaged in much more than just name-calling with people who have different ideas.

Because the diamond miners keep the price so high? Considering that artificial diamonds are just as good....

Your argument seems to be that scarcity+demand means that something should cost more. I disagree. We are approaching this from completely different perspectives.

It's not everyone, just many.


Gift economy.
I would suggest that it would be perfectly possible that there would be regular flights between major destinations 'cause that's what some people like doing to contribute to society.

So you don't work for a company then? You work on your own? In a true communist society, I doubt there would be a central bureaucracy, because such things would inevitably produce inequality.
Perhaps what would happen is that people building widgets would notice their stock of gadgets is running low. They might ring up the gadget makers and ask them to send a pile over. The gadget makers say, no worries! Or, perhaps there is an automated system, whereby gadgets get set to the widget makers every month. The widgets then get sent to the distribution center, where they are given out to the people who want them. Personally, I don't like the widgets made by the Daiichi Widget Factory, so I get my widgets from Daini Widget Factory. But most people like the number one widgets, and so only a few people work at the number two factory.

I'm a computer person, so I help out both widget factories with their computers as, and when needed. At other times I go and look after kids at the crèche, or perhaps paint a picture or two. Not many people like my paintings, but enough do that it does contribute. Other people paint just because they like painting, but they consider it a hobby, rather than "work".

I think that capitalism = forced labor. I think that true, proper, communism (no government, no state, no classes, gift economy), would end up with people sharing because they want to. People work because they would otherwise be bored.

We already produce more than sufficient food to feed everyone. We are post-scarcity. Even if everyone worked only half as much (or less) we would still have enough. Partly, this is because in the current system so much energy is going into unproductive labor (finance, including debt-collection and management, government, misc other bureaucracies).

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What I've written above is one possible way a society might run, there are many many possibilities. The main point being, that as an anarchist, I would reject any society that wasn't free. And so central bureaucracies and similar are a big no no. But to quote Malatesta, "t is not right for us, to say the least, to fall into strife over mere hypotheses".


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Anyway, this will be my last post on the matter (in this thread at least). I direct people who are interested in discussing anarchism (the left sort, not the fake sort), communism, or other stuff, to RevLeft. I don't post there, but they have other knowledgeable people who are more interested in banging their heads than me.

You are a moron if you think that. One, I'm against all government. Two the USSR was not in anyway communist, though it may have started out as an attempt to bring about an end result of communism. Why wasn't it communist? Because communism is classless and stateless, two things which existed in all the "communist" countries. At most the USSR claimed to be moving towards communism.

Also, preferences can be expressed in a myriad of ways. "Free markets" (which any capitalist system will inevitably stop being) are merely one way.

Personally, I think that few of you have ever bothered to engage beyond name calling with people who have radically different opinions to you. That's why some people are making ignorant statements about the use of force to get what you want in a moneyless society. Hint, look up gift economy.

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Edit: I also just want to say that the basis for my political (and life) philosophy is an attachment to freedom, and to a lesser extent, equality. Using that as the basis, I can say that, for example, capitalism conflicts with both freedom and equality. The first because it inevitably forms either monopolies or governments or other structures that restrict freedom. The second for obvious reasons.

If you have a different starting point for your political philosophy, we aren't going to agree. If you don't have a starting point, maybe you should re-examine everything you ever thought you knew and get a starting point.

How silly? Why are they silly? Oh wait, you lot are capitalists. Never mind, carry on. (Personally, I think the silliest thing is that they seem to want to keep the government. The getting rid of money isn't so silly. I'm supporting Bitcoin because it's a tool against government, not because I like money.)

Which is more important for society? If all the janitors suddenly disappeared, what would happen? If all the brain surgeons suddenly disappeared, what would happen? I suggested that in the first case, perhaps the brain surgeons would "led full, rich and happy lives until they [are] all suddenly wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone", or something.

For a further discussion on  the differences between doctors and janitors, check out this thread on Reveft.
Particularly the fifth post, which I will quote part of here:

I really can't be bothered arguing the point, because I don't enjoy banging my head on walls.

Actually, if I think about it, you could put all the content in there, and I could just do the theme. It won't take much less time, but it will take a little less. (I'd still need access to the site though.)

How does just leaving the client run, without generating, help the network? I don't understand how it strengthens anything if I'm not generating?

Anyway, I've been convinced by the damage to the environment argument. I'm not going to run my miner most of the time, even if I could get a massive 2.2 bitcoin a year via a pool. (I was in slush's pool for a bit. I stopped when I finally mined the minimum 0.01 to get something showing up in my wallet.) The other reason I won't be mining most of the time is that the fan noise can be really annoying.

I'd be willing to convert the entire site to WordPress, including creating the theme, and content transferred over, for 10 BTC an hour*. I estimate it would take about 5 to 10 hours.
It would require administration access to your WordPress install.

PM me if you are interested, I can start work now, and have it finished within the next couple of days.

I am not interested, however, in just creating a theme from your current website. It's much easier to create the theme in WordPress, with the content already there.

* 10 BTC an hour is a special bitcoin price; normal prices for this sort of work start at $30 an hour.

What's the site? I might be interested if it looks like a quick job. Also, could you give some more specifics as to requirements.