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4201  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 05:23:51 PM



+1000
really appreciate your figs bro Smiley
simple, clear and undebatable.
people who dont shotr should not be allowed in this thread anymore. sick of those permabull fools


It is now mandatory to short? wtf get outta here...   can we not all agree that people trade, and invest with different goals, budgets, strategy, timescales, lifestyles?  who the hell is anyone to tell anyone else how to trade? if you want to short, short, if you want to hodl , hodl...
pretty simple

what i was implying is that not even a month ago, those permabull kept on insulting and beeing irrational retarded toward people such as fonzie who claimed they would short. if you cant understand that and being polite, be my guest and gtfo


Yah... okies no offence intended.... the line "wtf get outta here"   was intended in a "what you talking about Willis?" type fashion... think Arnold from different strokes.... maybe I sould have included a : )


However.... just want to point out that you are saying that people were against Fonzie because he wanted to short? nope sorry... people against Fonzie because he was behaving like a borish troll of the very worst kind....with no contribution, and basically wishing with glee that people lost their shirts,  nothing against people that want to short, nor hodl , I just think it is better if people come with some substance some debate, some info, something to say other than the whole  "you must trade like me or you are doing it wrong , my way is better than yours, or if you a a perma bull or hodlr you are an asshole , or if you are a short you are wrong and evil" crap.......... is just that.... crap.....  BS and noise.    

Fact is everyone has different goals, budgets, time, lifestlye etc and so for some people trading and shorting the market will work, if they are adept, and for others it will not.  For some people hodling and buying dips is their preffered method etc etc...

Your post suggested that any perma bulls hodlrs be "not allowed to post" which is a tad daft to me...

Let people do as they will, and if they want to actually be taken seriously, then contribute with analysis and TA or discussion , ideas , thoughts, strategy etc
because I am as sick of the perma bears as you are of the perma bulls, and I am as equally sick of the "who has got the biggest dick competition" which is basically all that has been on this forum for pages and pages... my way is better than yours .... around and around in never ending circle .. like toddlers argiung about who has got the best mom.





4202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 04:52:13 PM


you spend most of your time on this sub-forum and most of your posts are in this thread, and most of thing comes out your keyboard is only trashing people when they try to observe the price movements, it is cool when they say CCMF, but you trash them when they say they think there will be a drop !!!!

the title of this thread is  Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion so if you don't like both price arguments go spend your time on something that is really helpful for the eco-system.

I think what really gets to you is that I'm almost always right. It must burn you that a permabull can eat your lunch even in a bear market. It's ok. I don't take it personally. Someone has to be on the losing end of the trade ;-)

gosh, you are never tired right. look at this chart and explain to me how bullish this looks to you (4h chart BTW)




now look to this chart, this will explain to you how traders change their postions from bearish to bullish and make some profit (1h chart BTW)







and look at this (3d chart BTW)







what is Hard to understand here ? there is nothing personal when tracking the price and try to make some profit of it, you are the only one taking things personally here.


shhhhhh!!! everyone is going to want one ; )
4203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 04:51:05 PM



+1000
really appreciate your figs bro Smiley
simple, clear and undebatable.
people who dont shotr should not be allowed in this thread anymore. sick of those permabull fools


It is now mandatory to short? wtf get outta here...   can we not all agree that people trade, and invest with different goals, budgets, strategy, timescales, lifestyles?  who the hell is anyone to tell anyone else how to trade? if you want to short, short, if you want to hodl , hodl...
pretty simple
4204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
Draw a chart both slap your shlongs on it and see who has got the biggest - get this over with  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
4205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 04:33:07 PM
My way is better than yours
No my way is much better than yours
I may make more profit
I have less worry
I know the market inside out
I only look at the price now and again
I think TA is a load of shit
I think is a very valuable tool
I think it is going up
I think it is going down
I think you are a troll
I think you are a troll
My way is better than yours
No my way is much better than yours

Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

get a fucking grip
4206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 06:18:20 AM
You have been paying too much attention to Vladimir Putin again.


4207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 02:47:33 PM

This is interesting. Didn't the central bank of Cyprus just issue an advisory about bitcoin?

I do not think the people of Cyprus and the CB are friends anymore...

4208  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Bitcoin is really a mindblowing system. I tried to order a pizza with bitpay, after 15 min the payment still hasnīt arrived and i got the message "invoice expired".
So my money is gone and i got no pizza. Outstanding.

How can you order a Pizza with bitcoins if you have zero bitcoins? You always amaze me!

I have a lots of money on the exchanges(leveraging(shorting) with USD) , so i thought i could take the risk and exchange 20$ into Bitcoin without having to fear that Bitcoin would fall to 0 in the next 10 minutes. Cheesy
Lesson learned. I even sent the BTC to my blockchain account first as i am aware of the fact that payments through exchanges can be delayed. Iīm sad for Bitcoin.
And once again it has proven that BTC future doesnīt look bright Cry Cry Cry

Yeah, my 1 year old i-pad is sketchy, my new fridge has a glitch, my android phone is totally insane, my BMW has broken down twice in the past half a year, and my bank blocked my internet banking for months because of a glitch they could not even find themselves... they even had to turn off their cash machines for several days..

I guess that has proven that Apple,Android, Hoover, Natwest and BMW are all broken and do not have a very bright future






4209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 05:33:52 AM
I don't think Jorge will ever buy.

I don't think either.  As I said before, I do not like gambling, even when the odds seem favorable.


Life is a gamble Jorge...



4210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 04:58:21 AM
Ditto for the claim that Governments cannot stop bitcoin.

It must be a semantics issue which you're hung up on with regard to this issue. Governments cannot stop Bitcoin. They can ban it or otherwise criminalize it but that won't stop it from being used. I guess the only way we'd know is to give it a whirl.

My definition of "success" is "it is used by many people for ordinary payments because it is cheaper/faster/safer than using a bank or credit card". That will not happen if it illegal to use it.  

Since december, even a foreign tourist cannot pay for a hotel bill or meal in China with bitcoin.  So the bitcoin project is already dead in China.

The Chinese government still allows trading inside the exchanges only because they feel that it is harmless. If they saw a threat there, they could easily close the exchanges, and block access to the network if necessary.  

Again, I do not see how the blockchain could be maintained if the US government decided to ban bitcoin.

 Ask the movie industry how well stopping the pre release of films onto the net for the past decade has been going for them...and ditto for the music industry... also while you are at it ask Blockbuster shareholders how they feel about having sat on their asses staring at the rise of the internet and file sharing and streaming... and ask yourself who was the genius that stood in a boardroom at Blockbuster HQ and in letters to shareholders in the mid 2000's and said "I do not see that the internet is a threat to our business model" which is basically what must have happened and why every Blockbuster in the country has now gone...great work.  I watched two films tonight  one on Neflix and one on a famous "free" film site which is blocked by the ISP provider in this country... that really stopped me , errmm not... and that is nothing, childsplay (and when I say childsplay, with all the scriptkiddies around these days, I mean childsplay... and when those scriptkiddies grow up, they will want their Bitcoinz/cryptos, that much is for sure and they will know how to get them and protect them if needs be.. our schools are teaching them how to do it right now, and the rest they are learning/inventing themselves...the wheels never stop turning)

I really think that some people do NOT understand the internets and also another mistake again and again linear thinking..this year alone you will see products that will change the internet forever... trust me on that one...  you think the "internet battle" is only being fought by Bitcoin? far from it, in fact Bitcoin is a mere blip on the radar... the net you have now and the nets you will have in a few years... with the tech that's coming... there is no blocking anything... and actually there are a LOT more concerning things that a government will want to try and block before Bitcoin... you know "Fiat is backed by guns" is great.... how about "society is backed by 3d printers , printing guns to back our rights to not be pissed on from on high"  DO NOT GET ME WRONG I AM NOT SAYING THAT WITH ANY GLEE....NOT AT ALL!!! SCARY STUFF!  I am just firmly not tied to 2014 thinking , and I can see whats coming down the line ... Bitcoin is not going to be the numero problem.... 10 -20 years down the line.. this world is going to be very very very different.

DIY opensource bioengineering kit anyone?  (Now that is scary stuff and also coming to a reality near you in the next decade!)


4211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 03:10:06 AM
I was trying to think who the Fonz reminded me of...and then it hit me.. 

"more bad news"  Grin



Cheer up it might never happen.
4212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 02:59:27 AM
More bad news:

http://www.coindesk.com/documents-goldman-sachs-discussing-bitcoin/

"New York-based global investment banking giant Goldman Sachs has completed an initial assessment of digital currencies that concluded they are currently too volatile for serious investors."

lol what?? that doesnt make sense

Sure it does. It means that they're not currently "too big to fail" and investors be bailed out with wealth stolen from the taxpayer. Keep up.

It's not a good Wall Street investment until losses are socialized.

Well said.

 

Also well said


And if I your kneecaps were replaced by fish, you'd have a hard time standing up as well.  It doesn't matter, however, because you stand on kneecaps.  There are infintely many Dogecoin.  If anything that only increases the value of Bitcoin, as you have to acquire Bitcoin in order to buy Dogecoin.  The absurdity of your argument is manifest by its own conclusion:  Since there are infinitely many cryptocoins, and this does not in fact render Bitcoin worthless, the argument that the existence of infinitely many cryptocoins renders Bitcoin worthless is a fallacious argument, of no more relevance than the imaginary fish which seek to render you paralegic.

4213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2014, 12:03:50 AM
Thanks for the kind words, I bear no ill feelings.

I would rather not enter into lengthy discussions again.  You have read many of my arguments, I have read yours, but obviously neither side has convinced the other, and that does not seem likely to change.  Logic and mathematics are only part of what defines one's opinions and probabilities.  Experience, with things and with people, is even more important; and it cannot be easily shared.

Let me just clarify my position a bit more:

* It is true that I do not know the technical aspects in detail.  But I know enough to believe that there is nothing wrong technically with the concept.  (I was surprised by the "malleability bug", and surprised that it did so much damage; but I trust that it is not serious, and that all buggy software out there will soon be fixed.)

  My skepticism has to do only with the economical, political, and practical aspects of bitcoin.  We all agree that bitcoin is an original concept, that does not fit well into any conventional economic model.  Therefore, my ignorance about those aspects of bitcoin does not seem to be much greater than anyone else's, even that of the bitcoin pioneers.


Till next time, and all the best, to all of you.



Hey teach...

Kind of reminds me of the dead poets society....  but without the poets or the society.

Happy posting Smiley  and happy teaching/learning

Best of luck

4214  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 09:13:41 PM

<wtf?>
<lolItisanimaginarycrackpipeandimaginarytinfoilhatsoichoosenottohaveimaginaryaut ismthanksthoughforthethought;)>
4215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 07:55:50 PM
4216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 07:36:41 PM
4217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 05:36:30 PM
I don't see no train....yet.

If you put your ear on the track......

you can hear


choo chooo
4218  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 05:17:27 PM
Goat and Risto are long gone from this thread, Risto said that he will come back when we hit low 500 as he predicted, I dont know for Goat, maybe he is busy Mining ? Loaded was never a daily poster....

They (goat, rpietila) opened a new, more "elite" forum, cryptocrypt. Rpietila asks you to apply to it, but only if you are a big holder, like he imagines himself to be one, or, if you're small fish, if you are willing to suck him off publicly once in a while.

I was a member for a few days, but left again pretty fast. the amount of neckbeardery and circlejerking coming from risto was too much to stomach on a regular basis.


bahhaaaa!!

Much laughs today!
Much fun
Because exciting week : )





4219  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 05:10:19 PM



 Wink
4220  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2014, 05:07:53 PM
@BillieJean

Donīt you ever feel ashamed. Itīs people like you who are responsible that i canīt ever turn real bull again.


haaa haaa haaa haaa   ahhh stop it  please .... stop... oh my oh my that is a good one Fonzie coming from you...
haaaa haaa haaa oh you just made my day





Oh and good to see you work out if you should be a bull or a bear again..  via the opinion of someone on a forum ...
good work




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