Is there any pencil mod for s1? Can't seem to find any via Google?
there is a long thread here somewhere. I will look for you and here it is btw a great mod. I run 3 s-1's at 420gh and 560 watts dead stable https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0
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Assuming you start with one Dragon on July 1 (with BTC @ $600) here is what you can expect during July; .7578 BTC or $455.
Are these dragon miners quickly slapped together? Do they good quality control, and are they available to purchase, NOT FOR HOSTING use? Seems too many issues with users trying to access their machines remotely. I saw a charge for $232/month for a dragon, is that correct? I pay $150/month for my SP10 which is 1.4TH/s. Big difference if I'm mistaken. hosting price has been cut to 180 for 30 days. not 225 for 30 days. so a 31 day month will be 186 next time out. very hard to compare your sp10. A) I paid in paypal B) I asked to pay a sp10 in paypal and was told no btc or bank transfer only that is why I have a dragon . I basically felt the Sp10 company or anyone selling gear that won't let me use paypal is not worth doing business with. Back to my question for LEE what is the btc address to pay my hosting fee to. The email sent to me has a different btc address and paypal then the top of the thread. please give me an answer as to payment . I want to pay you. 16EK2Cg8eG51Q4yLTPiCysgeP7iUaUr4dE is the btc address i used to collect host fee, it will make track the payment easily thank you btc has been sent https://blockchain.info/tx/a585ae2cb509ad3d292ee74693c6812c6a0869dc59bfe00ba42998c4aed38698
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hopefully we will hear how one of our fellow bitcoiners were solomining with 1 rockminer @ 33ghs and solved a block.....
while it is possible (probability is greater than zero), statistically it has terrible odds of happening. 32 gh is .001195 btc a day. divide that into 25 = 20,920 to 1 for a 1 day run at the current diff level. run at the current level for the next 6 days odds are 20,920 / 6 or 3486 to one. any miner that plays the 3 or 4 digit numbers at the local lottery
rather then running 1 of these units at solo-mining is pretty foolish.my frustration is no major pool offers this option with the exception of oz-coin's solopool.net .. Since that pool's op had a major money issue I do not want to use him and running solo in house cost too much as I need to dedicated a pc to run as a server. I really want to offer these as 3 packs on ebay with an easy setup to run two in a standard pool and one as a solo miner. Sadly no pool that I would trust wants to do this. So a good promo is lost. Actually, to do you calculation correctly, you'd have to actually compare it to the total bitcoin mined in a day, since you're using your daily output, not a block. If we were averaging the spec of 1 block every 10 minutes, that's 3600 btc per day. You're likelihood to mine 1 block would then be 3600 / 0.001195 or 1 in 3,012,552 to mine a block over the course of a day. Estimated time to mine 1 block is actually 20,913 days at 32 gh/s as calculated here: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=32&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.00&d=13462580114.52530000&r=25.00000000&er=570.00000000&hc=0.00So your odds are worse than hitting a pick 5 lottery and better than a pick 6 (at least in NJ). So you'd probably be better off pointing it at a pool than wasting the hashes trying to hit the lottery. your math is wrong. think about if you math was correct merged pool mining would not work at a profit and it does. 672 th mines 1 block a day at the current diff 672th/21000 = 32 gh so if a pool had 21,000 32gh r-boxes it would make 1 block a day (perfect variance assumed) this means 1 r-box is a 21000 to 1 shot at pulling a block …… it cost 15 cents to run it a day and you lose 68 cents in pool hash earnings. total of 83 cents…… so 83 cents gets you a shot at 25 btc = 14560 usd . the odds to hit are 21,000 to one. no state 3 digit or 4 digit number pays that well 14560 usd for 83 cents when the real odds are 21000 to repeat I am not saying it is easy to hit. I am saying it pays off closer to true odds. then any state 3 digit or 4 digit number. if you play 3 digit and 4 digit numbers and you are not playing an r-box at solo mining you are mathematically making the wrong choice by far at todays diff and todays btc price. a fact that you think is not true . BTW it is cool if you keep thinking that way. you are entitled too believe what you want. I know I believe more then one thing that is not correct at all times, but not this at todays (June 26th 2014 )numbers. Your numbers look close but the odds to hit are NOT 21000 to 1 - if they were, everyone with a rockminer would be rich beyond your wildest dreams. I think you guys are confused about odds and probability in general. The probability of a single hash solving a block is blockexplorer.com/q/probability The odds in favour of solving a block is expressed as the probability of solving a block over the probability of NOT solving a block. Which will come out to approximately the same as the probability because the denominator is so very large. Now you can multiply the probability by your hashing rate (32billion for the rockminer) and then by 86400 (the number of seconds in a day) and you will get the probability of solving a block with a rockminer on any given day. If you want the odds in favour of solving a block on any given day with your rockminer, take that probability and divide it by 1 minus that same probability. Also, you can invert the probability blockexplorer.com/q/probability to get the average number of hashes required to solve a block. Now you can divide that number by the hash rate of your device to get the average number of seconds required to solve a block. I think it's around 57 years for a rockminer... I get how you get the number. today with the diff at 13.5 if you run 1 r-box the chance is about 21000 to 1 for today plain and simple. so 21000 /365 = 57.53 years same as you With some rounding errors as I am being a bit sloppily. So I could play a 21000 to one shot by solo mining my r-box. my cost is 83 cents for a day. this is the key 15 cents power for 1 day and about 68 cents lost in btc earned at todays diff. and a block is around 14850 usd , that is a payoff of 17891 to one on a 21000 to one shot. Plus you could hit 2 or more blocks. Basically the r-box is a great piece of lower cost gear that would allow you much better odds then any lottery. I do not suggest that this is the only way to mine an r-box . I do suggest mining your r-box this way some of the time. Right now http://bitsolo.nethttp://www.solopool.netoffer solo mining pools .
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I stand corrected, mine was also picked up and scheduled fo' Monday delivery.
UPS as well so the import fees wont be the extortionate ones that DHL feel justified in charging.
touch wood it arrives in one piece not 13.
BTW - 2 of my 3 S2's show the same 'invalid nonce - HW errors', my guess is they could run better somehow possibly with better firmware &/or better PSU's though this has been discredited by a few who've tried 1200w PSUs.
i think ambient heat plays a significant role wrt PSU stability and definitely actual miner stability.
best of luck to all!
It may be running 9 cards pulling out the hottest one . is a better choice then using a 1200 watt psu
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tommy of gaw.
never mind the waiting. you said if power is fucked up screw you. I paraphrased you but
"9. In case of change in specs (Power Consumption or Hashrate), I am not responsible..."
the quotes are you.
so if my 500 mh at 1000 watts turns into 400mh at 2000 watts I am fucked hard and dry.
I am not into that.
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Assuming you start with one Dragon on July 1 (with BTC @ $600) here is what you can expect during July; .7578 BTC or $455.
Are these dragon miners quickly slapped together? Do they good quality control, and are they available to purchase, NOT FOR HOSTING use? Seems too many issues with users trying to access their machines remotely. I saw a charge for $232/month for a dragon, is that correct? I pay $150/month for my SP10 which is 1.4TH/s. Big difference if I'm mistaken. hosting price has been cut to 180 for 30 days. not 225 for 30 days. so a 31 day month will be 186 next time out. very hard to compare your sp10. A) I paid in paypal B) I asked to pay a sp10 in paypal and was told no btc or bank transfer only that is why I have a dragon . I basically felt the Sp10 company or anyone selling gear that won't let me use paypal is not worth doing business with. Back to my question for LEE what is the btc address to pay my hosting fee to. The email sent to me has a different btc address and paypal then the top of the thread. please give me an answer as to payment . I want to pay you.
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I started at the beginning of this year.
Phil I wont be far behind you at the Bitminter 50th I would be 94.
Would be nice to still be around Then. I would think if it all lasts that long we would be pretty f'ing rich.. maybe rich enough to buy a younger body. or should I say a drink from the fountain of youth. If it ever really goes for sale.
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have an issue with hosting what is the btc address to send my 232.50 usd for my hosting fees. it this the address? 16EK2Cg8eG51Q4yLTPiCysgeP7iUaUr4d E I put a space after d and before E and if I do paypal is this the address? leegroupsale.1@gmail. com I put a space after gmail so you can not click it that btc address is not the one on this thread and that paypal is not the one on this thread. I had an email send me a bill for 31 days at 7.50 = 232.50.. before I send fees to you please quote this post and tell me where to send
you have this for a btc address :
1BNwtEPanWJ9VLdiJebtykQJgk3eEZFh52 in your signature
paypal: peicaili@gmail.com you have this in your thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514758.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514758.msg5686300#msg5686300
please tell me where to send hosting fees.
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thanks mike.. I see my first order has arrived in Cincinnati.
I will order some more later today.
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Wondering if a 1000 Watt PSU will be enough for 2 S3 ... (Overlocked)
On the higher side: As per my calculation maximum power consumption is 550W. If overclocking is possible with low percentage of hardware error to such an extend then 1000Watts PSU is just not enough to handle 2 S3. But in practical case, I mean a fair overclocking, a good 80 plus PSU can easily handle 2 S3s. If that 1000W psu is not yet brought consider buying 1200W PSU. PSUs are not worthless at the end, it will follow you for many year unlike ASICs miners. I'm just wondering if we will be able to push them that much since it's the max. If we take the S1 in consideration, i'm running mine at around 420 watt and two of them on a Corsair RM 1000. I wanted to get one for my S3. Is EVGA any good ? I can get a 1300Watt (80 plus gold) if i add 20$. Thanks ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) i can run 3 s-1 on the evga 1300 pulls 1215 watts at freq 393 hashes at 600 for the 3
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Because you can solo mine yourself?
yes but it is not cost effective to run bitcoin-qt as a server 24/7/365 on a dedicated pc. I did a lot of math on this it needs to promoted. Not dismissed as play a lottery ticket instead. So much complaint of no roi for mining gear. If I run a r-box right now today it gets 32gh at best it uses 37 watts. round that to 40 watts round that to a kwatt a day. power cost is a constant 15 cents a day. today it should earn 68 cents in a merged pool … So if I point it at a solo pool my cost is 83 cents. A day for a chance at more then 180 blocks. granted the chance is 1 out of 21000 for 1 block never mind the odds for 2 or more blocks, but it is a viable option denied to all small miners. Why is that I would need to run more then the 37-40 watts. For the r-box. I need about 100 watts or more for the server to run the client and not much else. Plus I need a decent pc to run it. I pointed a few miners at bitsolo.net knowing that I can't tell if the pool is a good pool. I did this to show I have some commitment to the idea of a solo pool.. I have read a lot of misinformation from really good members about this it has become quite frustrating.
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That is a nice deal. If only A2 would drop their damn prices ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) you know they have given pretty good prices on the blades lately. I want more, but I am waiting before I order the new deal as I have no tracking on my last 2 shipments. Still want to spend money on this product. I think it has good value. Hey mike hurry up on order numbers 6247 and 6281 so I can order this 4 pack.
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just had my email re hosting fees.
Anyone here who has had already made a payment advise whether I pay for my 3 miners on a full month or just the days I have mined?
Thanks
you should have a bill and it is prorated .. my bill is 1 miner for 31 days at 7.50 a day or 232.50. did you get your bill? at lee I will send the btc in about 5 hours.
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here is the deal for r-boxes if you use a plat miner they pull 36-38 watts for 32gh. if you use a little dc wall wart they pull 45-48 watts. I have done long term testing of 6 units with this plat psu ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F1280x1024q90%2F856%2Foynu.png&t=663&c=ZrK4Q5EqWQuwIg) I use these cables purchased from cablez note the side mount which lets them run cooler. this a link to cablez. I will next do long term testing of the break out board with 3 of these r-boxes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74397.0![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F1280x1024q90%2F834%2Fgczmf.jpg&t=663&c=LuHTBMxXmBkWfw)
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As of today there are 2 solo pools that I know of .
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They are now at 80,000 gh or 80 th. One miner is sending 62 th ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F1280x1024q90%2F853%2Fgco7o.png&t=663&c=KkKolPUW7K8l3A) I am sending 6 r-boxes and some fury sticks at it. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2F1280x1024q90%2F840%2Fu4j.png&t=663&c=rhqk3lhe9F2jRQ)
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Today marks 3 years of Bitminter ! A big thank you to all the current and former users. I appreciate your support. It's been a great 3 years. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's also nice to see that some who joined during the first few weeks are still mining here. Over these 3 years we've had 271725 users mining with us. But there is room for more, so tell your friends! I came August of 2012 still here. Hope to be here for your 4th - 50th year birthdays. After that I would be pushing 104 years old So I will take up to 50.
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Just an inquiry, another vendor is offering a G-Black unit (which appears to be five GS 'blades' in a self-contained tower), does Zoomhash have any plans to have inventory on these? The price with shipping is really close to just picking up 5 G-blades from here and being able to split them up on pools as I choose, but if you guys will be carrying them... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) We just updated the next batch of 4 blades here: http://zoomhash.com/products/22mhs-door-to-door-within-5-business-days-guaranteed-no-accessoriesProbably not going to do a tower of 5. that is a great price, while I would love to get more I am waiting for orders 6247 and 6281 So far I don't have any tracking info on them. I have the ability to buy more from you along with the space and power , but I don't want to have 3 outstanding orders. Please hurry with my order numbers 6247 and 6281 so that I would be willing to order again. Thanks
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Just asking, if 500GH/s requires 390W only, then CX750 can handle the OC'ed S3?
I have right now 2 S1´s overclocked to 200 GH/s and 2 CX750M also. And i think that they consume 420 W each one, so if S3 requires just 390 W.... would be great if we can overclock them, we have still 360 W left. I would like to know how much will be that Kit for upgrading S1 to S3... and more important.... will soldering be necessary? S1 upgrade kit will only be available after 1 or 2 months as per the guy visited BitMainTech booth. The price will depend on the exchange rate of BTC that time and the difficulty. Since its BitMainTech we can hope it will be a fair upgrade. Regarding Upgrade Method: Most probably it will be plug and play. They will maximum avoid such soldering things. As per their statement the upgrade hit will be the 2 pcb boards. They said the new heat sink is compatible with S1. So, I assume they will be supplying heat sink along with the upgrade boards. Thus the upgrade will happen when we remove old blades and screw up the new blade, plug the cables to controller, done. All are assumption, there may be very different from reality. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ok nice hehe. but 1 - 2 months later its too late ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I agree with the idea of the upgrade kit . As to whether it is too late. If btc stays under 600 it is all a big mess. But rallies can happen.
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hopefully we will hear how one of our fellow bitcoiners were solomining with 1 rockminer @ 33ghs and solved a block.....
while it is possible (probability is greater than zero), statistically it has terrible odds of happening. 32 gh is .001195 btc a day. divide that into 25 = 20,920 to 1 for a 1 day run at the current diff level. run at the current level for the next 6 days odds are 20,920 / 6 or 3486 to one. any miner that plays the 3 or 4 digit numbers at the local lottery
rather then running 1 of these units at solo-mining is pretty foolish.my frustration is no major pool offers this option with the exception of oz-coin's solopool.net .. Since that pool's op had a major money issue I do not want to use him and running solo in house cost too much as I need to dedicated a pc to run as a server. I really want to offer these as 3 packs on ebay with an easy setup to run two in a standard pool and one as a solo miner. Sadly no pool that I would trust wants to do this. So a good promo is lost. Actually, to do you calculation correctly, you'd have to actually compare it to the total bitcoin mined in a day, since you're using your daily output, not a block. If we were averaging the spec of 1 block every 10 minutes, that's 3600 btc per day. You're likelihood to mine 1 block would then be 3600 / 0.001195 or 1 in 3,012,552 to mine a block over the course of a day. Estimated time to mine 1 block is actually 20,913 days at 32 gh/s as calculated here: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=32&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.00&d=13462580114.52530000&r=25.00000000&er=570.00000000&hc=0.00So your odds are worse than hitting a pick 5 lottery and better than a pick 6 (at least in NJ). So you'd probably be better off pointing it at a pool than wasting the hashes trying to hit the lottery. your math is wrong. think about if you math was correct merged pool mining would not work at a profit and it does. 672 th mines 1 block a day at the current diff 672th/21000 = 32 gh so if a pool had 21,000 32gh r-boxes it would make 1 block a day (perfect variance assumed) this means 1 r-box is a 21000 to 1 shot at pulling a block …… it cost 15 cents to run it a day and you lose 68 cents in pool hash earnings. total of 83 cents…… so 83 cents gets you a shot at 25 btc = 14560 usd . the odds to hit are 21,000 to one. no state 3 digit or 4 digit number pays that well 14560 usd for 83 cents when the real odds are 21000 to repeat I am not saying it is easy to hit. I am saying it pays off closer to true odds. then any state 3 digit or 4 digit number. if you play 3 digit and 4 digit numbers and you are not playing an r-box at solo mining you are mathematically making the wrong choice by far at todays diff and todays btc price. a fact that you think is not true . BTW it is cool if you keep thinking that way. you are entitled too believe what you want. I know I believe more then one thing that is not correct at all times, but not this at todays (June 26th 2014 )numbers.
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