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4281  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: MTGOX <-> BTC BID/ASK on: February 20, 2014, 08:59:11 PM
How on earth is the price at 40% GOX BTC to real BTC? If that's the case, GOX price would be at ~$240 right now...if that's the going rate who are the idiots selling at $120 on gox itself?

Edit: In fact, the price should be even LOWER here. Real BTC is worth wayyyyy more than even GOX USD right now. You can't even withdraw GOX USD. Makes no sense for anybody to buy GOX BTC for real $240 when it's only worth 115 GOX USD...

My thought exactly, some people have BTC on mtgox and don't know they can sell their goxBTC for realBTC but that cannot be the enough to explain such a low price compared to the realBTC/goxBTC value
4282  Economy / Speculation / Re: IF you have assets still inside Gox, what percentage of it is in coins on: February 20, 2014, 08:09:33 PM
I do not have a gox(ed) account, but if I had bitcoins in gox, I would sell and try to buy cheaper, then sell my coins at bitcoinbuilder.com to minimize the loss...

I would have done that before; at 113$ it may still be possible but it's a gamble
If you sell at bitcoinbuilder you get 200$ a coin so when you sell at 113$ on gox you are loosing 87$ per coin
4283  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you really think the bottom of bitcoin price after MTGOX is down? on: February 20, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
Just imagine what a massive, never seen before crash we will have when all the cheap goxcoins get dumped on the other exchanges.
We may just see single digits again within a week.
So what makes you so sure that these mysterious "goxcoins" even exist?

And why would they sell them all?
4284  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will be the BTC price on other exchanges if mtgox price go to 0 ? on: February 20, 2014, 08:06:18 PM
What will be the BTC price on other exchanges if mtgox price goes to 0 ?

MtGox doesn't sell BTC, BTC you can't withdraw is not BTC, USD you can't withdraw is not USD, so it's actually irrelevant, because other exchanges sell actual BTC. Also, MtGox did so much harm to the BTC community in the past, so it gives me impression that price of BTC will actually go up if MtGox stops to exist, BTC will say... FINALLY! Cheesy

It may happen the same that happened after SMP closed but I still think it is more probable than the BTC price will decrease quite a lot more after gox shut down
4285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Upcoming MtGox Movement on: February 20, 2014, 08:03:35 PM

hahaha or this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi413TRabpQ

He made a looooot of money he need to celebrate
4286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is there even 1 person on this site who thinks mtgox btc holders should sell? on: February 20, 2014, 08:02:04 PM
Mt.Gox Multi-plaintiff Suit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=476535.0

The legal representatives are requiring participants to sue for USD, not BTC, so a lot of holders are selling, like it or not.

Ah, that explains why goxUSD are better than goxBTC

Yes that and the fact that you may be able to withdraw usd easily than btc now but it would still be better to sell here https://bitcoinbuilder.com/ if you had gox than to sell your gox at 111$ to hope for a legal resolution in case gox closes
A lot of the persons that are thinking about a legal battle probably sold at way more than 111$ and they are not buying back
4287  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you have USD in Gox, you're lucky on: February 20, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
whoever sold at 300, must really hate themselves. well, can't say i didn't see that coming.

maybe not that much today
4288  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will the price of BTC on Mt. Gox be tommorow? on: February 20, 2014, 07:53:58 PM
Judging on the price today, I'm guessing it will hit <50$ tomorrow.

It may be 50$ today....or 300$
4289  Economy / Speculation / Re: MTGOX $100 -$150 less than BTC-e if you are new or not "in the know" on: February 20, 2014, 07:47:35 PM
I'll be buying a few Goxcoins when it hits $450 at additional 50-60% discount. Nothing wagered nothing gained. Cheesy

I hope you didn't, trading at 111$ atm, doesn't look too good

The goxBTC is going up at the same time here https://bitcoinbuilder.com/ that doesn't seem to make much sense

We don't have much informations, or let me rephrase I don't so I don't know if mtgox is sound or if it will even re-open
4290  Economy / Speculation / Re: Game Over?? on: February 20, 2014, 07:44:41 PM
Bitcoin @ $119

Is the bubble all done already??

114$ atm I would buy BTC if I had fiat on gox and I would sell some here https://bitcoinbuilder.com/
4291  Economy / Speculation / Re: OMG, Mark is just trying to write his name! on: February 20, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
Relax guys, MtGox just gives up BTC and gonna pay everyone in GOXcoin.




If mtgox re-opens some people are going to make a lot of money

114$ atm
4292  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins to crash?? on: February 20, 2014, 07:35:55 PM
now all you bulls who just panicked selled in the last hour, you got a much bigger problem, just how the fudge do you all get the cash out of Mt Gox's bank account together? answers on postcards.

Do you honestly believe nobody can get cash out of Mtgox?
Yup, I surely do. I'm a jaynius now eh?

You feel pretty smart now
4293  Local / Échanges / Re: Si MtGox ré-ouvre... que se passe-t-il ? on: February 20, 2014, 06:32:53 PM
En gros MTGox en profite pour acheter les bitcoin et continuer a les vendres sur les autres place de marché .
C'est ce que je ferai a leur place.
HOP plus de BTC manquant Smiley Hop et du cash pour rembourser .

De arbitrage a 400% sans concurrence possible.

Du cash pour rembourser un bitcoin qui était à plus de 600 euros en le vendant 420 ?

Disons qu'ils peuvent envoyer les btc vers une autre place, ils les achètent à 120$ sur mt gox et les vendent à 520$ sur btc-e : 400$ de profit par bitcoin
Ils peuvent acheter presque tous les bitcoins vu qu'ils n'auront p-e pas à donner l'argent après

Si j'avais des bitcoins sur mtgox je les aurais vendu contre des vrais btc plutôt que de les échanger contre du fiat

Le meilleur prix actuel est 0.39!! sur https://bitcoinbuilder.com/ Les goxBTC étaient vendable à 0.75 il y a une semaine
4294  Economy / Gambling / Re: MakeBTC.org is the best passive BTC income invest on: February 20, 2014, 06:02:15 PM
Hey MakeBTC,

I just deposited .02 to see what happens.  When I put that in the calculator it spits out

Quote
My stats will be:
Level: 0.032
Income: (0.003 + 0.001 bonus) BTC
Withdrew: 0.002 BTC
Deposited: (0.02 + 0.01 bonus) BTC
Next bank income: 0.003 BTC

Yet when I try to set my withdraw to .002 it tells me the min withdraw is .01.  So now my money is completely stuck till lvl 25 or something.
Is there a way to set my withdraw to .002 or is your calc giving false information?

You can always sell your level
If you wait for 4banks you will have a level of 0.042 and you can sell for a profit

Or you can deposit more : if you deposit 0.04, you will be able to withdraw each bank
NOPE!  Min sell is .1

Oh yeah you are right

In the sense it is good for the game because it blocks players from withdrawing  Smiley But it isn't convenient and it is not nice to learn about it after you registered, it is written that you can't withdraw less than 0.01 though. I am in the same situation at btcontracts.com but it is easier because it is only bank 5 so my income will increase up to 0.01 very quickly
4295  Economy / Gambling / Re: MakeBTC.org is the best passive BTC income invest on: February 20, 2014, 04:55:02 PM
Hey MakeBTC,

I just deposited .02 to see what happens.  When I put that in the calculator it spits out

Quote
My stats will be:
Level: 0.032
Income: (0.003 + 0.001 bonus) BTC
Withdrew: 0.002 BTC
Deposited: (0.02 + 0.01 bonus) BTC
Next bank income: 0.003 BTC

Yet when I try to set my withdraw to .002 it tells me the min withdraw is .01.  So now my money is completely stuck till lvl 25 or something.
Is there a way to set my withdraw to .002 or is your calc giving false information?

You can always sell your level
If you wait for 4banks you will have a level of 0.042 and you can sell for a profit

Or you can deposit more : if you deposit 0.04, you will be able to withdraw each bank
4296  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: February 20, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
You don't want to store your wealth in something that can and will be greated at will like the dollar

Gold, bitcoins, oil, a diversified portefolio are a better store of value; it is sad to see people working hard to accumulate something that will be worthless in a short while
4297  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [TRUSTED+WORKING] ★★ Nisaai 120% Return Ponzi ★★ Instant Payout - 100% Automated on: February 20, 2014, 12:44:11 PM
Can we deposit twice at 0.1 in a row?
4298  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Attaque "massive" contre les plateformes d'échanges on: February 20, 2014, 12:42:50 PM
Qui aurait intérêt à attaquer les plateformes d'échanges selon toi?

Tout le monde.

Attaquer les plateformes provoque un raz-de-marée de panic-sell : le cours baisse. Tu achètes massivement et attend que le cours remonte naturellement. C'est un moyen de contrôler le marché à son avantage.

C'est très crédible mais en même temps on ne saura probablement jamais

Je vais acheter un petit peu et je ne vend pas ce que j'ai
4299  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTContracts.org - Speculate to accumilate. on: February 20, 2014, 12:38:03 PM
Ok fair enough, let's take it contract by contract

If you create a banner to add to a signature and advertise in the different gambling threads you could create a momentum
4300  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTContracts.org - Speculate to accumilate. on: February 19, 2014, 08:58:44 PM
Per default you are withdrawing all your dividends?

If our dividend is less than 0.01 we cannot withdraw because there is a minimum of 0.01, that su.cks

Be careful guys, I deposited 0.01 before I got sca.mmed on other ponzi

we recommend to deposit 0.1 and over - although 0.01 is the minimum. If you want a dividend payment straight away as we are on contract 4 a deposit of at least 0.025 then you will make 0.01 minimum payout.
 

Ok I understand, do you plan on advertising the website?
Why didn't you use your regular bitcointalk account to present the website?

Because things are going to go south, and he doesn't want to lose all credibility on his "regular" account when things go bad.  Just a guess.

makeBTC has been paying everyone and the website is half way of bank 17 so some players made a lot of money

For one ponzi which goes kind of far there are 10 that end up in scams or end fast; if it goes far, it is not a scam and you were here at the beginning you can make quite a nice return on your deposit
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