Noon yesterday net hashrate was 413 and today it's 296. Is the big swing from Bitmain, KnC or the hot weather?
Hmm luck affect the guessed network hashrate too, i wouldn't go saying Bitmain went and offlined 100PH in a shot. It's not 296 today either, look more like 360. But its possible they onlined a bunch of hardware yesterday and offlined a batch of S5 today to be ready to ship for the 14th+ august date. I find the up spike and then down spike exactly syncing with bitmain's S5 event days pretty funny. And maybe suggest that Bitmain is truly doing what everything think they are doing... Price: 440.0 USD(1.55783314฿) Stock: 177
Slowly getting to 0.
They can replenish the stock at anytime, too. Well the idea is they can't as they have switched over fabrication to the new units and are not making any of the old S5 now, so the idea is when they are out of S5 they won't have a hold and wait on selling units but bring out their new units. Right, but i am saying, they can replenish their stock with S5s they currently run in their mines and maybe some they have in storage. And they sure do have a lot of them. Since they can simply power down a section of the miner and refurbish the S5's they can effectively replenish the stock at any time.
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It wont unless intel sees a good market potential in bitcoin although one might say it might, as Asrock already advertise some of their boards working okok with bitcoins
No, it won't work AT ALL for Bitcoin. It's NOT a mining technology, but rather a storage technology. It could possibly make sense for storing and reading the DAG for Ethereum, however. Hehh, the high bandwidth high cost version of storage isint going to be useful or efficient. The mining, blockchain and also Eth technology really isint built around the need for Ram-like bandwidth performance. The need for memory is very small and the need for storage vary, but the storage devices again don't make use of ram-like or better performance. My bad; I'm not 100% familiar with the exact balance of storage vs fast memory vs large memory requirements of Eth yet. As long as DAG fits into normal DRAM, XPoint doesn't really have a useful effect. Indeed. There is not much in term of specs released for Xpoint, so its hard to say and their technology is interesting for non volatile storage, for faster SSDs. But usually with high speed come a storage reduction and high prices. So in term of cost effectiveness, this won't be it, i suspect. But if you look at AMD's 3D stacked ram, you quickly see there's not much interest there in the world of crypto, currently. For gaming i would love that stuff and its very interesting for stuff like Graphic cards but now its just moving the bottleneck to something else. Like CPU response time. Which Mantle API looked to fix. Anyways, veering off topic.
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It wont unless intel sees a good market potential in bitcoin although one might say it might, as Asrock already advertise some of their boards working okok with bitcoins
No, it won't work AT ALL for Bitcoin. It's NOT a mining technology, but rather a storage technology. It could possibly make sense for storing and reading the DAG for Ethereum, however. Hehh, the high bandwidth high cost version of storage isint going to be useful or efficient. The mining, blockchain and also Eth technology really isint built around the need for Ram-like bandwidth performance. The need for memory is very small and the need for storage vary, but the storage devices again don't make use of ram-like or better performance.
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Bitmain is selling their used S5 because i think they are upgrading to S7. They got S7 already. So they are using new S7 and sell that used S5, hundred or may be thousand of them... So is it really worth it?? I dont think so..if they are releasing S7 now, they wont be able to sell used S5 at this price...or may be no one is looking for it..Wait for S7!
Will it not have the S6 before ? And when the S6 (or S7) will be out ? Also I think it will be more expensive. No the S6 is going to be skipped, for now the S4+ is it. Those a rack mounted format. Maybe they will go back to S6 for the next gen rack mount ASIC but they said they would announce the S7 SoonTM.
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I would rather create a paper wallet (and make sure that my pc is offline) and store my Bitcoins in it. That may make it untraceable. I think ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) xD Bitcoins arent actually in a wallet, generating a privkey offline and then sending btc to that address still is going to link the old address with your new offline address. So if the previous address was linked to you, the new one will be too. You can't send BTC offline, how are you going to send a transaction offline ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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you can't see bitcoin as your only source of income. It is just too risky. You never know what may happen. So, best way is to have a job and work with bitcoins, just to be sure that you will have money to live ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Why would it be? Not everyone start each month with 0 capital, all spent. Bitcoin is pretty lucrative right now, its just fine as a job. Sure its value could crash some day or another, but that doesn't mitigate the current income it provide. You don't lose previous income because some day in the future its worth less. Bitcoin as your only source of income is just fine. People lose regular job everyday, its just as or more a problem than BTC crashing. Whether that's a problem or not to the individual is how well prepared they are to changing job.
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Maybe we should make a public shame/spammer thread and list all the spammers?
I agree with you, a public (personal) list of 'all' the spammer could help marcotheminer ... A list of campaign sig spammer would also be biased and cause drama. Isin't it up to the manager of individual campaign to judge the post quality of the members or members to be of his campaign? I think this is not the case, marcotheminer said : .... Feel free to PM me names of members that you'd like for me to look over.
I'd prefer a PM than a post here. It'd seem a bit odd posting names of people you'd like removed.
But the final decision is of the manager (this is obvious). Yes... Marco said to PM him if you find a user that isint up to the Bit-x Campaign sig. Not start a holy crusade spanning all the Sig Campaign spammers.
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Noon yesterday net hashrate was 413 and today it's 296. Is the big swing from Bitmain, KnC or the hot weather?
Hmm luck affect the guessed network hashrate too, i wouldn't go saying Bitmain went and offlined 100PH in a shot. It's not 296 today either, look more like 360. But its possible they onlined a bunch of hardware yesterday and offlined a batch of S5 today to be ready to ship for the 14th+ august date. I find the up spike and then down spike exactly syncing with bitmain's S5 event days pretty funny. And maybe suggest that Bitmain is truly doing what everything think they are doing... Price: 440.0 USD(1.55783314฿) Stock: 177
Slowly getting to 0.
They can replenish the stock at anytime, too.
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I would pick A ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I'm hoping for A too, I hated the upgrade from S3s to S5s, actually didn't even upgrade most of them as I didn't want replace all PSUs and there wasn't that much of a gain of W/GH. This time it should be more interesting. I also think if Bitmain is refitting their mine with newer hardware, the form factor and connector factor is going to remain the same. It make it more likely for what i'm hoping to happen, happen. I'm just not sure Bitmain need to sell the new stuff yet, but at the same time, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to sell the hardware before the Diff go up? If they mine 2 weeks with them before they are release, it's 2 week with more income in their pocket before they sell them to the public. This is why we think they are selling their used S5 to flip them with their new S7 (or whatever they named it) They are many factors to take in consideration before they sell the S7 to the public like the difficulty (if someone else bring a new hardware), the bitcoin value ... and so on. Hmm, i suppose that may be true, but i don't think the difference between 2 weeks of mining with new hardware in itself change much. It's just that subsequent wave of more efficient hardware raise the diff a bit and knock off some older hardware. I'm just not sure how much impact new waves will have on the difficulty. Also i'm not sure Bitmain is going to have much competition, since they seem in a good position and very much inclined to knock them off if one try to rise. Then again, i guess we'll see soon enough.
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Maybe we should make a public shame/spammer thread and list all the spammers?
I agree with you, a public (personal) list of 'all' the spammer could help marcotheminer ... A list of campaign sig spammer would also be biased and cause drama. Isin't it up to the manager of individual campaign to judge the post quality of the members or members to be of his campaign?
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Try the latest beta. It fixes this problem for the S3s, and it should for the S5s. MMinerMonitor53b1.zipNote that I've never physically had an S5 in my possession. That combined with very limited time can make supporting every single little change an iffy proposition. M I will try the software and report results when i get my S5. Curiosity, are you strictly working on this in vb? I was kinda hoping to get similar software in Python for me to mess around with. VB.Net to be precise. There are other miner monitoring apps out there. Maybe one of them uses Python and has source code available? M I see, thanks. And I didn't find one. To be honest, yours is built better. I'm just more familiar to building logic on Python, i'm not sure how it would be in VB. Regardless i'll wait for the S5 and then i'll see if i feel like poking around stuff.
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What I am really worried about is that, most likely right before the halving the price will go up.
However,
In 8-9 what if Bitcoin drops down to like $50, or $100 per BTC. Then even if it doubles to $200 , we are all still at a loss.
Unless something major hit BTC i don't believe it can go that low, we found a lower level of minimal floor value, i think it can go lower than the one we last found, but not that low. If something major do hit BTC, like a major failure with some humongous dump it might lower drastically but otherwise, why would it? The SUPPLY raise rate is getting halved, that will put upward pressure, not crash the price in half.
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Try the latest beta. It fixes this problem for the S3s, and it should for the S5s. MMinerMonitor53b1.zipNote that I've never physically had an S5 in my possession. That combined with very limited time can make supporting every single little change an iffy proposition. M I will try the software and report results when i get my S5. Curiosity, are you strictly working on this in vb? I was kinda hoping to get similar software in Python for me to mess around with.
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i use blockchain.info as my bitcoin wallet can they still spy on me with that?
Going through the web make you even more traceable. However if you can register without giving private information, use encrypted email and vpn to connect, you may be able to negate that part. Still, whenever you interact with websites, wallet to a wallet, you create traceability. You need to wear gloves for everything and the best is to avoid doing anything traceable. The level of anonymity you really need depend on what you're doing and who/where you are, however.
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I would pick A ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I'm hoping for A too, I hated the upgrade from S3s to S5s, actually didn't even upgrade most of them as I didn't want replace all PSUs and there wasn't that much of a gain of W/GH. This time it should be more interesting. I also think if Bitmain is refitting their mine with newer hardware, the form factor and connector factor is going to remain the same. It make it more likely for what i'm hoping to happen, happen. I'm just not sure Bitmain need to sell the new stuff yet, but at the same time, wouldn't it be more worthwhile to sell the hardware before the Diff go up?
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How do you install these onto the cables though? I assumed you need a special crimp tool like they use for ethernet networking jobs
It's easy, i don't know how special of a tool you need, the one i ordered from ebay seem to do them and Insulated terminals. At least there is a picture of all the terminal it can allegedly crimp and this is one of them. The thing look like this; ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cables4pc.co.uk%2Fimage%2Fcache%2Fdata%2FATX-EPS-PCI-E-power-connector-pin-female-600x600.JPG&t=663&c=fwYwSExdYF73og) Thats the female one. Then you just slide them in the socket and it hold there on its own. To remove them you usually use a small tool that push the hook so you can pull them out, i believe. @philipma1957 Might i ask how much you ended up paying for those 4 cables? @Tigggger Those are pretty expensive, they are most costly than retail from EVGA, but it gives me an idea of price comparison anyways, thanks! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) @toptek That might actually be workable. I live in Canada, and so does he, so the shipping rate are actually optimal. I will have to ask him if he can make exactly what i need but it might come down to either i buy them from him or i make them myself. -- I like the split cables, since it put less heat into one connector. I'll have to work out the math but forking over 40$ is quite possibly worth saving the hassle. Maybe 40 counting shipping. I will review my pm with him. Take me a while to find it. xD Don't worry about it if its a hassle to go through. If it is more than 2-3$ per cable it is likely to be too much regardless.
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Hello, do those 6 to 6pin really work as replacement cable for the modular EVGA psu? The PCI-e sockets in the power supply are 8 pins and they usually end in 6+2 or 2x6pin.
That aside, can you get cables that end with 2 pci-e connector? Buying 1 spliter on top of each cable pretty much double the cost. At that point they are same cost as retail.
Another type of cable i'm interested are cables that would fit in the 6pin perif/sata modular connector from the EVGA g2 that end with a 6pin pcie. I'm not exactly sure of the pinout but it look like it would support direct 6pin since you can use an adaptor that turn molex into a pcie 6pin.
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When I did some calculations for my electricity costs, the bitmain s5 was the most efficient miner I could find. Last I saw in their store, they are only selling these used. I get the impression that the s7 will come out really soon. You might want to wait for that. The general consensus seems to be that it will not be a disruptive device but only incrementally better than the s5. But when it comes out you might be able to get s5's for cheaper, or the numbers might make sense to get the s7, or s3's might be priced good, etc.
I've seen multiple reports of Bitmain replying to user when they ask "when will be the next generation released". The current target seem to be that Bitmain will make an announcement at some point in late September. So personally i am buying at the moment since i figured i have at least 1.5-2 months of stability for getting a return on my purchase. With the return i can make in 2 months, the units are almost half repaid and at this point i am not worried about the miners devaluating that much. guys ......... thank you so much , VirosaGITS , jonnybravo0311, jeannemadrigal2 for your support and for this great discussion You're welcome, feel fee to continue posting about your mining adventure here, i will be glad to be of further assistance!
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@philipma1957 Might i ask how much you ended up paying for those 4 cables? @Tigggger Those are pretty expensive, they are most costly than retail from EVGA, but it gives me an idea of price comparison anyways, thanks! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) @toptek That might actually be workable. I live in Canada, and so does he, so the shipping rate are actually optimal. I will have to ask him if he can make exactly what i need but it might come down to either i buy them from him or i make them myself. -- I like the split cables, since it put less heat into one connector. I'll have to work out the math but forking over 40$ is quite possibly worth saving the hassle.
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