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4281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can never be a means of making money. on: December 06, 2019, 03:27:47 PM
We can't rely on gambling for a source of income and I know people come into gambling just ti spare their time from the stress life. But think that it would be a source of living, I don't think so. Some people stay in gambling for a reason maybe its because they find themselves in here but basically, the one that earns a lot in gambling is the one who holds the fund( owners). They run this kind of business for a living but for players, its gonna be different.
4282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alts with no liquidity on exchanges on: December 06, 2019, 02:38:18 PM
Since Coinmarketcap added Liquidity to its indicators, you can see a lot of tokens with enormous daily volumes have no liquidity at all. Is it even worth to invest in this kind of tokens? Does that mean that most of the volumes are fake? Thanks for the answers.
And what you've think that?
It is pretty obvious that it won't make sense of investing those coins, you are just putting your money into nothing. Nobody would give interest to them, investors would probably skip these kinds of altcoins for they know that it won't give what they want.
If you have a lot of money waste then you may use to invest these altcoins cause for me, it is a big no...
4283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever done to experiment to determine percentage of winning? on: December 06, 2019, 11:21:06 AM
Is there anyone here who tried to experiment in online gambling sites with a pen and paper?

Here's the idea, to determine the percentage of winning, I always think of doing an experiment where I would bet in an online gambling site then each bet will be written to the paper. A total of 10 bets per day in a 1-week duration and each bet will be written and will be recorded depending if the bet is winning or losing. Then conduct an analysis of the percentage of winnings to determine if there are some tricks we could find with these experiments in different gambling sites.

If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?
Using this method you will lose a big amount of your money in this experiment and it is not worth it since you were only having 10 bets,
I'm an IT student and algorithms and codes in a game like this could easily be altered or change also could easily be cheated.
Making or using this method could not have the precise answer , the analysis is not going to be accurate at all since winning could be random at all.
I believe it so. No magic trick in gambling but it is all about luck in winning.
If we put 10 bets in a day and we win on the last 2 bets, it doesn't mean that it would be the same for the next batch. Definitely, we can't calculate our percentage of winning gambling cause it is really impossible to happen, even experts could never think about it. 
4284  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long do you hold on a trade. on: December 06, 2019, 10:51:30 AM
trading has been a difficult process for novices and minor traders. it could be tempting most times if you dont understand the market movement and TA. you might loose patience and cancel out a trade you might regret later. i have cancel out many trades that later ended up in huge profits. i have also cancel some successfully. i just curious to know if there is any sure way to this trading were by you hold on a trade.
to find daily profit from trading if relying on small profits is very difficult, but if you use a larger capital it might be easier for you to get a profit even if it is a little, depending on your capital, if asked how long it lasts when I am stuck buying Altcoin which is getting more and more days getting down, I usually only give it 2 weeks and of course use the trading techniques that I usually use to avoid big losses
Capital would be a big factor to measure our profit but of course, we need to be strategic enough in order to achieve what we aim for.
I'd never put my coin in trade when the market is down definitely, it wasn't the best time to do in trading instead of buying more. For the time that I've been stuck, it probably lasts for 1 month and decides to sell or not.
4285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wtf? All red on: December 05, 2019, 10:51:19 PM
Whales do it pretty much most of the time. Especially this season, and the halving is just a few months , that's why they dump to buy it at lower prices that would guarantee more profit once the bubble starts to go. Give it some time, hold your investments and once you have passed your buying price by a few hundreds or even thousands, you could sell tl cut losses.
I don't think that whales did this falls. It is just the market that went not so good this time and the accumulation process still working on. It is really sad and a big loss to our side if we bought coins when the market is high for a trade cause we can't get any profit from that. If we have other sources of income that could help to pay our obligations just like what happens to OP, it is better to hold it now and wait for the price recovery before we get back into trading.
4286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Confused, Your thoughts is needed on: December 05, 2019, 10:33:22 PM
As a rule after the end of the campaign, the bountists sell their tokens and the project can artificially keep the price by buying coins from themselves or make distributing coins monthly but this is not always good for hunters.

It perfectly won't give a positive result cause most bounty hunters would like to sell their token quickly and it bends the price to drop. Though we think that it was just a small amount from the total supply but somehow it affects the price and it won't look good cause in most cases, no investors would like to buy tokens/coins that they never see potentiality to grow.
4287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with Fiat or Crypto? on: December 05, 2019, 03:08:44 PM
Haha...I wouldn't single out any of them because the end of the day it is money we're talking about. And don't forget Cryptos can be bought to in s much as Fiat has a quality of being difficult to get. If it's your money then it's your money  That's how i see it. Coz using $100 worth of BTC for betting wouldn't be any different from using same $100 in Fiat.

Whether fiat or cryptocurrency, both are money and none is bigger than the other when trying to earn it or get.
Moreover, you don't have to gamble with $100 before you gamble. One can gamble with as little as 10 dollars and still earn some money. It's all about the strategies you use.
The bigger the amount you've spends in gambling, the more you'd think to win also but it wasn't just easy, and the risk of loss will also be bad.
If we would like to be in gambling and spend money, please see to it it won't comprise any, not from lending institutions nor a borrowed money from your friends cause we know already the possible result and I don't want to see people been in regrets just because of this.
4288  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to learn bitcoin trading? on: December 05, 2019, 01:10:45 AM
Bitcoin is the most useful of all coins in cryptocurrency so it has the power to use by exchanging other altcoins at the same time. Learning bitcoin trading is almost good to see the market for buying ang selling with altcoins.
But it is not as easy as we think to learn bitcoin trading and we can't focus on trading bitcoin only Because there are many other options to trade. Knowing how to trade starting from the very basic is needed for us to trade it takes time but for the traders who is really willing to learn and to earn must undergo learning.
Experience would be the best way to start learning in trading. You can start trading with a small amount and since you are still a newbie in trading, don't expect that you will make profits easily, losing is very possible. You might also want to check on google demos about bitcoin trading so you will have first views on bitcoin trading.
In fact, there is a lot of trading tutorials on the internet which gives a lot of ideas and information on how it works and how to be done. But the problem is that we can't perfectly make it right, it needs constant practice and experience. Of course, it needs dedication and commitment cause trading isn't just an easy job, it involves money in which for every single mistake it might be at your lose.
4289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which cryptocurrencies are highly undervalued these days? on: December 04, 2019, 11:02:42 PM
We could find it in some exchanges especially at Forkdelta or Etherdelta. They listed almost all coins/tokens existed today and we can find out that new tokens will easily drop off without a single recovery. For their huge number, we can't simply count them and it takes time to collect all of them for summary cause, not all exchanges are the same coins listed.
4290  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Dump - The Worst Thing on: December 04, 2019, 01:47:55 PM
Well in my opinion BTC dump is not the worst scenario. Even if BTC dumps, it is a chance to buy alts when they are low. So do not look at the market just considering BTC going up or down. Every move of BTC is a great chance to buy cheaper alts and getting profit.
It won't warrant anything, especially for altcoins to be more profitable than of Bitcoin. Thus, investing altcoins will be a big risk and chances of losing if the market will continue to drop by. If we are about to invest, I would like to suggest that please consider Bitcoin only instead of investing altcoins.
We all know that most altcoins are depending on the Bitcoin price trend, once it drops again, altcoins will follow by then, that is what we think if we would take altcoins.
4291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You Counted Or Estimate All Your Losses And.... on: December 04, 2019, 01:11:35 PM
Some people are losing $100 daily or $200 a week or $500 a week how about you
Have you counted or estimate all your losses and thought what all your losses could you buy, do you sometimes stop and think on all of this.
I'm not a big gambler but I estimate I could already buy a good class mountain bike with all my losses, how about you?
wayback when i was new in gambling?yeah i almost recording all my losses and winnings whenever i gamble.

but things get worsen because when i checked my losses?all i want is to recover and win back the amount again things that brings me more losing streak.

so i stop recording and just play with some amount each time,lose or win i will leave the table in specific time and i fount peace and enjoyment from that strategy.
Then how it feels seeing those numbers? It probably you can't imagine how it going like that and it never gives you encouragement instead of being disappointed. That is why I'd never want to have a record of my losses. If we lose, we just consider this as a part of our gambling life and we have to accept that our chances of winning in here are just of 50/50.
4292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why are you gambling? on: December 04, 2019, 06:25:59 AM
Everyone has a reason why we push ourselves to gamble and tried to understand the situation. And for me, it is because I would like to win, and I believe everyone wants to win rather than just enjoying or just having fun with friends. For those who have a lot of money, it definitely they don't mind losing their money but for those casual players, it surely they aim of winning. 
4293  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Dump - The Worst Thing on: December 03, 2019, 11:52:27 PM
Have we gone too far from the DUMP? I don't know why people keep looking on the downside rather than staying positive and conquer our fear. For this fall have reason and that may an opportunity for the others to start investing crypto. It soon comes up and be in the bullish again, we need to be patient and stay calm for not all the time are in the upside but also we experience down sometimes which we have to understand.
4294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst Day of My LIFE - Dice on: December 03, 2019, 11:31:34 PM
It's normal to have a bad day at Gambling. It has to be accepted. There is nothing to be upset about. Gambling between good days and bad days. So today is a bad day and tomorrow will be a good day. We who gamble regularly accept this as normal. So there is nothing to worry about.

Thank you.

As after every sunset their is a sunrise happens same day nothing is permanent . You will have the good days and the bad days in casinos or in gambling where at times u will make money and other time will lose it . So stay cautions .
But gambling is full of a trick if we aren't strong enough and feel depressed when we lose our money, it really hurts you and even can't decide perfectly. And our lives can be like a wheel, sometimes up and sometimes down. If we believe that sunrise will come, we have to understand also that we have to lose some and gain later. But how if nothing left in our pocket cause we lost them all quickly before the sunrise comes, thus it need us to borrow from the others or leave? That is why most gamblers are in debt because of these beliefs.
4295  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc Price is Not showing, Missleading news and hype on: December 03, 2019, 11:11:15 PM
What we could think next year is not really the same as it happens. We may be expecting bullish next year cause of halving effects but it doesn't mean that it shows us instantly. News will always be talking negatively about crypto, this it makes you loosen up your trust and faith to crypto cause in the first and as a part of the crypto community, we better know what is really happening inside and all of these are just misleading news/ FUDs.
If you listen to them, it surely will bother you and can't decide the right thing to do.
it's normal, if our mentality is not strong enough to face the FUD, I'm sure you will be weak, and you will no longer trade in cryptocurrency,
but if you are resistant to FUD you don't need to worry, I'm sure Bitcoin and altcoin will always live

We can't stop other people to think negatively against fud, because it was still erradicating while bitcoin still tries to recover from the latest dipped price. Most new holders have fears, that's why more affected with the fake news and other related concerns on cryptocurrency's irregularities.
We just need the right knowledge to be firm on our belief no matter what they throw to us as long as you have the right information there's no fake news will break you. What do we have seen about the price of Bitcoin is just a normal routine and a little bump to increase the price before the year ends. But be cautious enough because it might drown your investment if you go short when the market is too volatile.
This is why I'd never give any conclusion without digging up more information. May others will consider it true cause they believe that media reports are believing but we can't deny also that they are sometimes paid just to give fake news. It surely won't affect us if we know what exactly it happens but for those who didn't understand the situation, they will simply slip into it.
4296  Economy / Speculation / Re: No need to PANIC! on: December 01, 2019, 10:29:16 PM
I’m a little surprised that people seem to be panicking about the recent Bitcoin price drop to $7000. I guess I’ve watched Bitcoin for so long (since 2012) that the volatility doesn’t phase me.

The market now has a lots of newbies in it and lots of weak hands in the market,  that is why they tend to panic dump Whenever bitcoin retrace a little bit there by resulting in more dumping, 

I wouldn't blame most of those who panic in selling most times because they took the market as a get rich quick scheme,  no proper understanding about how the market operate and it's volatility
It actually that's their decision but thinking about how it affects the market, it seems to put care as well and help the market trend get stronger rather than to see it going down. We know that most of them are new to this kind of market that is why we need to help them understand and find a way to adopt the system that they would like to engage with. It oftentimes to have this fall and we shouldn't have to be surprised anymore.
4297  Economy / Speculation / Re: That Crypto Guy Takes Profit From BTC Long on: November 29, 2019, 11:49:49 PM
This profit taking idea looks funny when the accumulation is high. Why cant u buy more with the so called profit than taking? I dont think bitcoin maximalist are taking any profit like you put it, it is so meagre to ever be considered, it is more longterm. The profit taking in altcoin is a gradually move to accumulate bitcoin and it is not as big we expect.
Accumulation and market correction still on the way making these huge price fluctuations often to happen all the time. If we are about to understand that situation and what that OP presented, he probably taking into account that bullish season will come and that is why he accumulates some of Bitcoin by now for the seek that he could generate profit in the coming days.
4298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Long term hodl ! What a joke on: November 29, 2019, 11:21:15 PM
Different investors with different views
That’s why crypto currency is for the individual opinion where u make choices for yourself by yourself

Long term hodl is not that terrible; vanta token did over 500$ I think 10 days back
While some tokens got delisted

What Matters is getting to ur facts right about any token you hodl
It sometimes we could consider it a lucky day for us. Cause we never know what will happen next, may the price moves high that day because of hypes but we can't sure that it will sustain that price for a long time. It absolutely will be turning back to dump and that is the common thing that it happens today. And that is the reason also that not all of us relying into holding for a very long time cause the assurance isn't there but it is in everyday changes.
4299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is this a scam attempt? Or Nothing to panic? on: November 29, 2019, 11:04:57 PM
This is a horrible action that Chinese exchanges never meant good to look by in terms of crypto adoption. As I already read this https://bitcoinist.com/idax-exchange-whats-really-happening-to-withdrawals/
 there is something we end up to a conclusion that this certain exchange is just a scam and can't be trusted anymore. We can't hear a response from CEO which means that he is guilty of this.
4300  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here is why Bitcoin can only go down on: November 29, 2019, 10:50:18 PM
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That is also the reason why Bitcoin is a mega-bubble and can only go down to the price of an average coin, and not up to the moon.

This is the most stupid argument ever about Bitcoin. You can produce as many phones as you want.

Bitcoin is unique and it only allows humans to produce only 21 million ever.

This guy is just nonsense
He really doesn't know about Bitcoin and how it works. This kind of assumption and speculations don't have any basis which ironically won't make sense anymore. He is one of the fudders around and tried to mislead us, and he thinks that we are stupid enough to think that he was right.
For we know about Bitcoin for many years, and I'd never think that it will get into the point that it will be turning down deeper.
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