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4341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2014, 01:43:21 AM
sorry wrong gif ah ha ahemm (I really did put the wrong gif up, ha ha... thought I would leave it there as the accidental choice of gif was hilarious!!)

It was supoosed to be:

I am about to slay a kitten



... that is if she will let me ; )





wtf?

not much time to explain... but hint: it involves my girlfriend.. and another hint: it does not involve any slaying...  gotta go ... happy trading Wink


 
4342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2014, 01:31:59 AM
sorry wrong gif ah ha ahemm (I really did put the wrong gif up, ha ha... thought I would leave it there as the accidental choice of gif was hilarious!!)

It was supoosed to be:

I am about to slay a kitten



... that is if she will let me ; )




4343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2014, 01:28:34 AM
I am about to slay a kitten




... that is if she will let me ; )


4344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2014, 01:16:32 AM


LOOKS FUN
4345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2014, 01:00:22 AM

It's the best strategy for losing traders. That is all.

Nope. Most bitcoiners are actually holders. Otherwise, the price wouldn't be where it is.

Many bitcoiners may be holders but I think you fully misunderstand the point.

Well, it is hard to lose trading if you don't trade.
And I think it is stupid to believe that you can beat this market. Maybe some can, some are lucky, perhaps there are even obvious opportunities where it is stupid to hold, but all in all I'm convinced it is the best strategy for (nearly) everyone.
So, yes, maybe he is right Wink

If you are slow and lazy Buy & Hold is a very good strategy. And it's stress-free (very valuable).

 But it's far away from beeing the holy grail.

That we will only know with more time I am afraid... your argument does not allow for the fact that the outcome of hodlling will not be known for x amount of time in the future (2,3 years 5, 10?)  

The only indication we have of the outcome of hodling Bitcoin for over say 2-3-5 years is the past, so in the years since 2009 if we were to do a survey asking people that bought and held for say 2, 3, or 5 years what the return in their investment was and if it worked out as a good strategy what do you think the answer would be? all of them would say it was great... by contrast I am sure that there are many people who have day /short term traded and made a mint... but many have lost it all, lost money on margin, ploughed bad money after bad ... sure there are the ones doing well... bully for them... but as a whole, as it stands today, the safest, and probably (depending on how good you are at trading)  most profitable way is to buy and hold long term... or to realise some profits as the price climbs and buy dips sure..  but risking coin to make coin is all good and well if you are adept... and some are more than others.. but I have been around fx and pm's  long enough to know that weak inexperienced hands get burnt over and over, and with much less volatility than BC has to offer..  The past is not the best indicator of the future, but it is an indicator all the same.. The fundamentals with Bitcoin scream buy and hodl, so it is an easy decision.. with the aside that it is pretty much a binary outcome scenario.. and to only risk what you can afford to invest.


EDIT Also depends on what your end goal is, and what your lifestyle allows and wants...   

4346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2014, 12:43:29 AM

It's the best strategy for losing traders. That is all.

Nope. Most bitcoiners are actually holders. Otherwise, the price wouldn't be where it is.

Many bitcoiners may be holders but I think you fully misunderstand the point.

People hodling Bitcoins are not traders as such... more investors, speculators, savers.

There is a difference.
4347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2014, 12:27:04 AM




Actually I think you will find 2014 is the year Bitcoin rises.
4348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 10:38:35 PM


BS, go do more research again.


Same to you. I'm not really bothered, I have nothing in Gox, forgot how emotional everyone is around here. No facts just FUD and who can shout loudest.

DON'T YOU GET IT Huh?? IT'S CRASHING !! BITCOIN. IS THE FIRST VIRTUAL CURRENCY AND WILL FAIL !!

DO YOU HEAR ME Huh

FAIL !!  MOON


really it is going to fail.... will tcp/ip and http fail at the same time? this could be worrying... I need to get prepared....

4349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 07:03:48 PM
4350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 04:51:29 PM

Technical analysis is well known to be a false science .... keep reading the future in shit ...what an expert .. 5years of false science ? nice !

well known to be a false science... ok then lets call it an "art" instead....

Fact is, for what ever reasons if you are half good at TA, and have experience and sense to know and when to use it, and what its limitations are and you use it as just another tool, then it works a decent amount of times, enough to make it worth it!... even a bat shit crazy loon can see this... and NOTHING works all of the time, and nothing could otherwise there would not, there could not be a market as we know it!  

Using TA sure as hell beats just sticking your finger in the air and trying to guess the direction of the wind... and can be very useful in helping you access price movements, which is useful and important if you are short term trading... again, unless you think that justtotal  wild guess work and gut feelings will do for your entery and exit points etc ,  and if you do that is up to you... but as for trying to convince others that is the best way, the only way to help you choose entry and exit points? I think that is far from science too... also if it works for some people let them get on with it...    


4351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 02:57:45 PM
Don't you realize this is all shit ?

Bitcoin is a bubble. The end is near ! why the price is not at 1500$ ?? uh ??

4352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 02:48:06 PM

Hell yeah!! blow the bloody doors off : )  abandon ship!! abandon ship : )  ha ... there are some amazing things about the UK for sure, but really I would only like to spend say 3 or 4 months here a year... in the summer at that ... but apart from that I want out..



4353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 02:09:12 PM

I am indeed.. for now...
4354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 02:08:23 PM
What if spreading the fud was actually Gox's plan to cause the dump and multiply their btc holdings?

blah

pardon my language everyone....   but Mah87 - go fuck yourself with your inane shit

you are a narrow minded person. You are like those people saying bitcoin is shit in 2011... Now that bitcoin is more mainstream you adore it but still unable to see the next step...

Muppet I bought Bitcoin under $100
I just do not like Ripple, they may do well, but that does not change the fact I dislike seeing the name Ripple everytime I see it in 2nd place on the coinmarketcap..


An I bought bitcoin under 10$ .. who cares ? You should read more fucking moron.  

(edit - the only thing you bought under $10 was a hand job from your mumma)

Read more? wha??  ermmm ok...

I think your carer needs to change your nappy  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


4355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 01:59:02 PM
What if spreading the fud was actually Gox's plan to cause the dump and multiply their btc holdings?

blah

pardon my language everyone....   but Mah87 - go fuck yourself with your inane shit

you are a narrow minded person. You are like those people saying bitcoin is shit in 2011... Now that bitcoin is more mainstream you adore it but still unable to see the next step...

Muppet I bought Bitcoin under $100
I just do not like Ripple, they may do well, but that does not change the fact I dislike seeing the name Ripple everytime I see it in 2nd place on the coinmarketcap..

oh and did I mention...


(edit the guy in this pitcure having his life rearranged by an angry bull- was a perma bear... but what really made the bull want to hurt him bad, was that he was a ripples fan...
 
Coming to a screen near you far far sooner than $0  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



4356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 01:52:34 PM
Ripple is the most advanced crypto atm.

LOL

***cough cough***  Ethereum  ***cough cough***

I wipe my arse with Ripple, everytime I see the name I want to puke...



That's a pity you don't even know what you are talking about...

?? ha ha... ermm what am I talking about?  ermm how Ripple makes me feel, which is like puking everytime I see it...mainly because I just wiped my arse with it....

you are so special.... do you have carers?

4357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 01:49:21 PM
What if spreading the fud was actually Gox's plan to cause the dump and multiply their btc holdings?

blah

pardon my language everyone....   but Mah87 - go fuck yourself with your inane shit
4358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 01:45:36 PM
All the bulls are stupid. This is going BELOW 400$ ! Probably 200$ and below!

Coming to a reality near to you soon(ish)=

4359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 01:42:53 PM
Wow back @700... I would not wonder if we will be back at $800 tomorrow... If it is really so easy to manipulate the BTC price by whales, then BTC is not an alternative for FIAT.

timescales... jesus... What Bitcoin will be is not what it is today... more volume more adoption more exchanges = more liquidity and therefore more price stability...

pretty simples.
4360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2014, 01:28:21 PM
Ripple is the most advanced crypto atm.

LOL

***cough cough***  Ethereum  ***cough cough***

I wipe my arse with Ripple, everytime I see the name I want to puke...

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