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4381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: October 01, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.
Yes, things are like that, I personally have seen many things, many cases about how real this can be, it always happens to me that when I do certain things, because when there are groups that are free I can determine what things can be the best predictions, especially in the games that I know the most, well in the sports that I know the most, for example I love soccer, the UFC and Boxing, they are actually my worst sports, also because they are the sports that I Practiced, and I think I know, that's why I like this guy from a group where they are free, I wouldn't give up for a group that is BVIP and they tell me that I have to put my bet on a team similar as in trading, where in trading they don't say or explain the reasons for this either, so for these things I have always said that the groups that are sports betting signals have to be good enough, for me to be able to stop doing something and have them show that it is true, apart from the fact that the failure rate for me must be in the order of 85% to be credible, I leave 15% to lose, that is, out of 100 bets at least 15 It is acceptable to lose for me as long as the others are correct.

Of course, this is a range that I have established for myself to be able to have control of my finances, if I am in a VIP group I have the right to demand, there is no other option, I believe it must be like that, I cannot say that there is one thing or another. That there really is a constant way to make money by betting, everything represents a risk yes, but if they are experts, owners of a group where they do get paid, then they have to be highly efficient in the results, otherwise, to me it makes no sense that sgioa betting there, maybe I'm very radical in that sense, but in a paid group , it has to be demanded, otherwise I would feel robbed because it is additional money that I have to take out to pay someone Else.

Like you're in a sports and betting whirlwind, right? You're into soccer, UFC, and boxing. You say they're your worst sports, yet you've practiced and know them. A tough spot, huh? You want that free group with the finest predictions. It's hard, I know.

What makes a solid sports betting signals group? A high success rate of 85% leaves a 15% loss margin. Having that range and financial management is a good approach. In VIP company? Right to demand success. Your money, bet, danger. Not delivering feels like a rip-off, right? You're navigating this betting game's hostile environment with your own rules. Keep holding them accountable, and good luck

Thank you very much for posting the answer, in my previous post I put an edit thanks to you that they are my best sports and not the worst, lol, you can't be so masochistic in life, those are my sports, the ones that I have practiced Throughout my life, I really don't know what happened, maybe a mental lapse or something like that, but yes, you are right in saying what you said, but they are actually my best sports, what I say All of this is that when we are in a sport or in a certain group of sports, what we mostly have experience in is what we know the most, it has happened to me that whenever I enter a sports betting group in a way free, the sports that always give predictions are tennis, basketball, baseball where I have no idea what they are talking about, nor do I know which are the best teams, which have the star players, nor do I know what the capabilities of each one are of them, so it is difficult to do something well, first because in a group where they launch this type of predictions they are quite radical in terms of the things they say, they only give the prediction and that's it, there is no analysis there.

This is like blindly trusting the Criteria of that person who says, I don't know if he does it just to do it, because he has a lot or little time, if he does it for real because he likes it, or because a software shows it to him, the truth is. I don't understand well, and it happens in many of the groups, at least in the groups that are Spanish speaking, it's like that, I haven't been involved in an English speaking group, maybe if they give details and explain things, it's just that I do Say that it must be that the more they say what they should do for this or for a coincidence. or another, but they don't tell me or do the analysis, they don't even show the technical analysis, so it's better for me to go to trading view to see what other people think or the articles that are quite good , to know each person's criteria ,.
4382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: October 01, 2023, 05:43:43 PM
While some can limit their gambling, the risks should never be ignored. I think successful gamblers set limitations and tactics to avoid addiction. They follow budgets. They know to leave because casinos always win. Gambling can be fun without spending too much, but it requires discipline. Personally, I believe in financial education to keep balance. Financial literacy and self-awareness can help gamblers be healthy. Knowing your limitations and sticking to them is key.
Successful gamblers always have different ways that they do to avoid excessive gambling. Moreover, he also has a lot of experience, which can help him recognize every moment to distance himself from problems that might arise. They know when they can go to the casino and start gambling and when to stop gambling so they will get out of the casino on time and have no problems. We have a lot to do and learn so that we can become successful gamblers and not experience gambling addiction or other problems.
Actually, these successful gamblers are not afraid of the risks they will face because they always strategize and analyze what they will play in the casino and they usually bet in large amounts and it is possible that they have speculated that they will be able to win the bet and of course they can double their money. easily because they are quite professional in this matter and they are not careless in placing bets so that they have the opportunity to win at the casino.
But for some reason it is very difficult to become a successful gambler because many of those who are addicted to gambling experience losses rather than success
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well, successful players will always have plans to play a good game, a good successful player knows that he cannot apply the same strategies every day in the game, that he has to have many different things to do, so that he can have the option of winning, That's obvious, but how do they do it? Maybe experience gives you a little more knowledge to be able to win, so when we make an outline of the things we can achieve, many things can be achieved, because a successful player not only keeps what he knows, the successful player investigates. and takes into consideration other ways of playing and other ways in which others see the game, they are not only left with a total vision of the game, in this case we can define what we do, for it to be successful it does not mean playing a lot, but knowing how to play, I can be in the casino all day, but I can play for 5 minutes and no more, because I am observing ways of playing to know how to win, and that in itself is some wisdom.


Most people in the casino go to play, but from my own experience, when I used to go to a traditional physical casino, I saw that an elderly man was watching the roulette wheels, and I really didn't know what was happening. through his mind, I don't know if he calculated, I don't know if he learned the numbers that fell, I don't know if he tried to look for a pattern, the truth is I never knew, I only know that he was the only one who stayed at the roulette table watching how the numbers fell. numbers or results, in this order of ideas, I think something, in a physical traditional casino, if we play roulette, then we should play when there are many people playing, because something must fall where someone wins, not only the casino will win there , also a person can win, so I went there, because one day I went to a roulette table by myself and what I did was lose big, but when I played alongside many people, the roulette wheel was full, I won, it's strange , but that happened.
4383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When the fun stops on: October 01, 2023, 05:02:42 PM
It is very common when a person enters a game because he enters with endless emotions, many illusions and hope, taking into account that he is a relatively novice player when he enters a child, because things can experience many emotions, among These emotions can occur and you can easily get carried away by wanting to get your hopes up by saying what you are going to win, what you can do if you want to buy something special, they think that with 100usd they are going to take it to $100k, that is what sometimes I have normally seen what some people think, only when they go to a traditional physical casino, in an online casino, I think they are a little more suspicious and if they are people who do not have much skill with computers, well I think that helps them not to daydream like they do with a traditional physical car, in this order of ideas we can intuit many things, the emotions that can experience that is like when one was little and they are going to repair a bicycle, so these types of things are the that we experience or have seen some gamblers before entering a casino.

When a person has had a good streak in a casino, obviously it is a party, it is a big thing, something to celebrate, but for everything, as in any case When the money runs out, that is where the celebration ends, so in this case We as good people must accept something, that first before going to a casino we must have more money ready to lose, not multiply, because the safest thing we have when entering is to lose, because the casino is a business, and a company and obviously what the owners are looking for is to make money, not to be an NGO organization where what they do is help people, that is not the case, that is why in some cases the party ends or everything stops until the person loses their money. You earn or lose money more , and you have no Ability to continue to do so, that is What You Should avoidReaching.
4384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: October 01, 2023, 03:20:17 PM
But this is not only the contributing factor to such early involvement in gambling but also if the kids find themselves or are exposed to a gambling environment, for instance, there was this lodge where I lived during my days at the University where there was this betting shop stationed in the front of the lodge, most of the growing kids around that area used to enter the shop to play visual games and that how the environment can influence kids too even without having their parents be a gambler.
Yes, it true that the environment a kid finds himself has a role to play in the formation of whichever lifestyle he finally adopts as he grows up, but yet that doesn't mean the influence a kid will get from the environment could be compared to that which he/she could get from his/her immediate parent he/she is staying with and looks up to daily, which is the main reason why thou other factors could have a role to getting a kid addicted to gambling, but he learning it from his parents will end up creating a Pro addicted gambler, and as such should be discourage.

Well , something like not betting against them I think is somewhat exaggerated, sometimes it is good for them to see how to bet, Because they are Knowledge that should not be Denied, if They do not See it from their father, they Will see it on the internet through other people , then this is Something that should not be allowed, because at Least when you play in front of them you can explain and guide them about the risks, why adults should do it and everything because right now it is very difficult. , Children , Adolescents, information that is denied to them, and information that they will obtain no matter what, just a Simple Search on the Internet , things can be Found easily , now things when parents say not to show these dull things, they have their way To think, yop I have Mine, what I don't agree with is that gender ideology because what they do is confuse it ,  and what they do is create and form a society of Children who do not have any type of Personality, and then That they are 18 years Old or of legal Age Because there are Only them if they can Decide who they are or what they want to be, then that is something that can manifest.

What children are Always Looking for are things to have a better Experience , and that is What they are Basically looking for is fun very few children know the value of money, for me the things when they are children are because they have to do Things with Great care , and show Certain things that they can educate themselves at once, because with all the freedom, or rather the freedom that exists in the world, children have to see things that they are not prepared to see. , but it is better that their parents Show it and not others, because now even in Schools they Put Some things to Educate Children in a way that is not Correct , so the world through their Children is idealizing them and They are taking away their Information, their Childhood and the Way they see Things as Before.

4385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the Difference Between Plying Gambling on Online Sites and Real Casinos? on: October 01, 2023, 02:26:23 PM
In my country there are no casinos operating because it is an illegal activity. However, many online gambling sites operate and have many users from our country. So, even though I often play on online gambling sites, I have absolutely no experience playing gambling in real casinos. I often watch YouTube about gambling in real casinos, especially about slot machines. I noticed that in real casinos, slot games do not have a buy free spins feature

Do you have experience playing at real casinos and online gambling sites? Is there a difference playing there? I want to know.

Maybe first of all, in online gambling there is no hassle compared to the real casino, because if you have a car and you want to go to the real casino, you will spend money on fuel, you will face traffic, and it seems that you are prone to accidents while traveling to the casino. Whereas in an online casino, there is no need to go through or do that first.

Online casinos have become more convenient, secure, and safe. In addition to that matter, it seems that the online casino has reached the masses more, because usually in a real casino, you can't just enter if your money is only 500 pesos, as far as I know, while online it is only 4 dollars and you can gamble.



Well, there is a slight advantage that you have because in a country that has banned caisnos, they are focused on traditional physical casinos, they are the ones that are prohibited, but they cannot control the sites that you think of on the internet, on the internet there is a great variety of casinos through which you can direct, in my case when I discovered that I wanted to play in online casinos, my preference was always frebitco.in and stake.com, the good thing is that these sites do not have a ban to not play, on the contrary, they accept people from this country because you know that the country I am in there are many who have a lot of money and do not know what to spend it on, so in this order of ideas, take advantage of everything you can by playing in an online casino, by the way I recommend those casinos ,freebitco.in, bitcasino.io, stake.com, because they are the casinos that are most famous, trustworthy, the oldest, that is what I recommend, inutyop you know what casinos I am talking about, however when we see casinos that have to do with differences between onlnie and physical ones are many.

One of the main things that I have done and that I see is a notable difference is that a physical casino is not going to require KYC to withdraw money, in the case that they do require it, it is simply the identification, such as ID, ID, Among other things, for that reason we must always put in context that physical casinos have these advantages over online casinos, apart from a traditional physical casino does not have the options of bonuses, or contests with wager included, if they give you coins Or rather, if they give you chips they are yours, you don't have to make any more bets or anything to be able to enjoy it, while in a casino they double what you deposited, but to be able to withdraw it, sometimes some very difficult situations get to comply, then this results in hassles, apart from KYC, and obviously other things.
4386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling game is not good and everyone should stay away from it on: October 01, 2023, 02:04:45 PM
Everyone stay away from gambling game then you all will be happy and happy Gambling game is very bad which will harm your family a lot and will also harm your life like my father gambling ruined my father's life and also my future is dark now I am now  I came back to this bitcoin to find light in my life in this darkness you all help me shine.




I don't think it's a bad thing if the gambler seeks help for his family here. So long as he manages his gambling properly, right? That's fine as long as he doesn't have a "gambling addiction." They appear to be gambling responsibly". Because it is better to stop gambling first if it truly destroys the family or something else; it is that easy.

You can't blame others either, because for some, gambling is their only hope of getting out of poverty, based on their beliefs. You can't stop them from betting on that, just like you can't stop them from betting on the lottery. It is entirely up to the individual to manage it effectively.




The people who really believe this about the game is because they have never played in a casino, or perhaps they have played and it has gone very badly for them, perhaps another reason why they say this is because they have had friends , Family or people nearby where they have played in a casino and things have gone badly for them and they have Fallen into a Terrible Addiction , it could be those reasons and obviously they Generalize things, we all know that the game is not like that, nor is it deiabloic nor does it have something bad about it, no, Things with gaming are like any other activity in life, or like any other type of fun for Adults, I can't say that sport is bad because it went badly for me or even a person has died doing it, sometimes generalizations of society are very harmful and harm , especially those People who speak Without knowledge, because they have not investigated or because they are really people who do not have much character in what they say, when a person repeats and repeats what they See in the News or something like that , it is because it is empty, but in these cases where they are things that involve money and talking about this lightly should not be done, there are People who Perhaps have the same level of knowledge as them, but in my opinion A person who tells me that or I tell him that he is wrong and I tell him all the reasons, because things are not like that, and that is how chimes and bad information are Created that Sometimes people do not see.

We, as Players who have some Experience,  can inform others who are starting out in this world, then the least you Should do is make it clear that here with the casinos what you are Risking is money, and if a person enters a casino and if they lose a lot of money, then they are simply disappointed because they do not have a good Financial education, but that does not mean that it is fulfilled in everything and that is why they generalize that it is because of a casino that Everything goes wrong and that it is something very bad , then in this sense we have to say what the Situation of casinos and games of Chance Really is , sometimes people are more Informed.
4387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: October 01, 2023, 03:26:13 AM
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It's true, basically things work that way, we as players who have already experienced many things, we have some experience, we have given ourselves some things to be able to have something to advise, so if we find the preventive measures as they are, it is very It is likely that newbies will not lose so much money, nor will they go into casinos that are scams, nor will they look for casinos on the Internet, because those things are what significantly affect a person when they go into casinos that steal money, and it is also something bad for the industry, so in this order of ideas, what I can say is that in the forum it would be spectacular if they could put as pinned messages some guide as to why the forum's caisnso are the most recommended, and of course put a prepare those casinos that are dangerous where a deposit means that the money was lost and then when we do this analysis, we want to protect everyone, but it is so difficult, because they enter with a world of money, and then every time they enter a casino It's a scam, and don't let them get money, it's a potential client who can become a VIP in a short time, then they get disappointed and leave, I'm sure that figure exists, I couldn't say how much the percentage might be, but what? must be must exist.

Of course we are people who can do something, so it is recommended that newbies always read what is the best option so that they can do more feasible things, so in this order of ideas we can establish many protection ideas, but if they enter the forum , they don't read, and they still make very bad bets, and lose a lot of money, it's difficult, because I know that there are people who are like that, maybe they can count on very good luck, but otherwise, how could it be done? Things are sometimes difficult when it comes to how to play in a casino, as they say, there are many games, there are many things, all tastes cannot be acquired at once, so you have to visit it more than once.


If beginners could learn what they need to prepare before playing gambling, perhaps there would be no problems that arise after they gamble or at least there would be a reduction in problems arising from gambling. They can prepare themselves well before gambling, remain calm while gambling, and will not be provoked into chasing wins or wanting to recover their losses. And what is more important is that beginners can stay away from scam casinos and only choose trusted casinos to gamble. They also will not return to gambling just because they want to recover their losses because they know that experiencing losses in gambling is normal. What is not normal is when they have lost but continue gambling until they lose all their money.

If beginners can visit this forum, they can read what is required in gambling and how to have good self-control so that they will not use too much money to gamble. This is needed by beginners so that they don't gamble too deeply because when they are lured into the gambling game, they will play without stopping, which is riskier for them. They can lose control of themselves while gambling and lose all their money.


That's right, lately I have seen many threads emphasizing problems with addiction, this makes me think that many people may be suffering from addiction to the game, of course the diction to juice is not only a problem that can affect newbies, also experienced players, who, due to problems or whatever, fall there, then we can do something, it would be excellent if there could be some messages pinned within the forum where many threads of the main advice are shown, in the part or section of the forum beginners and first steps that must be done, because they try to give advice and have very good threads, but novice players do not read this, they go to the game threads, as if they know a lot, no type of protection is taken When playing, that is, they do not read the consequences of the facts, they see the casino game as something very normal where they can have complete control and not lose anything, but on the contrary they enter thinking that they can multiply their money a lot, and that is not the case. .

In this aspect, we must do something to avoid this. Personally, whenever I can, I say, in a casino, before entering, register, what you should do as the first option is to allocate the money that you are willing to lose, not to get your hopes up in what you can win, but what you can lose, if you have that as a promise you are already stepping on the ground, why? because if you lose, you know that the casino is like that, it is something normal, you rest with the enjoyment of having played, otherwise you can make more money, multiply it or something like that, which can be done too, but what It wants to be expressed and put once and for all as something that has to be clear, that in a casino you will always have the best options to win, not to lose, for that reason I say, a player cannot expect more from a casino. , nor that if you bet a lot of money you have the right to win, no, the casino is the one that has the business, no one is going to set up a business so that others win and not the owners.
4388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: October 01, 2023, 01:48:46 AM
I think it is possible to get addicted to gambling when  there is also no gain and this is because there are always possibilities of players and gamblers chasing after their losses and we'll  all agree that in cases where gamblers begin chasing after their losses, is always ends up disastrous and addictions is always the end cases in most cases.
Well, there is always greed in human nature and gambling isn't exempted  because there are always the tendency to wanting to play and win more after a win because it is believed that since they're winning, that the winning will continue.

Greed is the worst Feeling in a casino, it is something that can blind you, we cannot be thinking that when we are in a casino we are going to win huge Amounts of money, that is a false cliché that sells a lot, so in this order of ideas we can do things when we are in the casino, firstly if we are on a good streak, it is known that good streaks are for very short periods of time , it is very limited, we should take advantage of them, yes, we should extend as much as possible while you have the profits, but the moment you start to lose, the player must change the mental ch'p and say, well now the bad streak is coming, the best thing is to withdraw, and play another game or simply go with my profit, because in the event that he starts to play and bet more, he will end up losing everything, and that is not the idea, clearly it can be one thing, when the bad streak begins, the impulse of a novice player that can be = ? that bets double to recover, and what does not heal, which is the casino, has the option of winning due to the house advantage, this is what many forget, the truth is I don't know why, they believe that they have the luck only to They, and the Feeling of greed Begins, that they carried a balance now they have less, that at least they can reach what they had and then withdraw, and no, that is a double-edged sword.

Greed is something that we must Eliminate, we must see that a casino is always a way to have a business where they have the Advantage , that they are a company and their Main motive or inspiration is that People have fun, but in terms of profit They are a Business , they must win, that is why a person who loses control will begin to lose and that can lead to total ruin, it is something that is seen, that is noticed, then that is what it is  Should be Taken care of.

In every Casino there are people who win, win a lot and lose everything, then you have to get away from that statistic, I don't know who loses everything,  if you lose, let it be what you were Destined to Lose.
4389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: October 01, 2023, 01:18:23 AM
As a gambler,I know that we have done so many mistakes in the pass base on our bets and wrong strategy or calculations that we have done which led to losing the game that was suppose to make you win big. I want to use myself as an example,I love sportbet and I bet more on it. Last months I placed my bet on 7 games that was to be played for two days. When the 5th game was played,all matches came out as predicted and I was called by the casino,to offer me a cash out of $200 in my local currency and I refused it because if the other two games was played and the I got the predictions right. I will win $1200,so I turned the offer down. The painful part of it was that the two games were to kick off on the same time,and after the games,my prediction for the two games was wrong. I felt so bad because I allowed gred to control my emotion. For this reason,I having decided that when ever I have an opportunity to cash out again,I will always go for it,instead of thinking that I can win all the money.
So my question is this,as a gambler what mistake have you made when gambling that prevented you from winning big.
Let's discuss.

The average gambler always have greed as the driving force,  If not why would somebody permutate over 20 game's in a single bet slip and stake $100 to win $2500, that's likely impossible but gambler do it.
Whenever I want to play, I don't do too much of big win, I go for smaller odds with a great likelihood of winning before I place my bet. Most times I do succeed. Although most people will say the higher the risk the higher the reward.  For me, you would have collected that cash out that was shown to you, half bread they say is better than none. Whenever You've seen some  level of profit from your game, don't hesitate to take it.



I also think the same, for me things have to be very decisive when it comes to how to do to be able to have the maximum performance or win a lot of money in the casino with little money, well little money I say who wants to take 100usd to 3 figures, that is something very difficult, I think the easiest thing you can do is with slot machines but you have to invest something like each shot at least 50usd and that will not guarantee that you win, but rather that you will be more likely to lose, because At the moment slot machines are played with little money because I don't use them to win but for fun, but there are players who do like to bet and get money from a casino, and if they don't do it then they get frustrated, I don't. I see these things as correct, they are what I say that a player cannot see a casino as an ATM, but as a way to make or have income, that is not correct.

So that is a classic mistake in players, or the most common mistake is that sometimes they Start playing and win a lot of money, and the mistake they make is to always bet more, and when they have a bad streak they insist on continuing to win , and then When our intelligence must act and say, if I already bet and I lost, the most likely thing is that I will lose from now on, then I can't bet more, but then play another game, stop or leave and come back another day or the other week, This is to prevent things from getting out of control and losing everything, because I have seen that there are players who have a good balance, they get desperate chasing more profits or recovering losses and what they do is spend what they have earned, they put more money and they lose, then it is the worst play they can make in life, and it is the worst thing that can be done in a casino , what one as a Player must do is be calm, cut the losses, extend the profits, it is simple , but when people do the opposite Process that is when they Lose.



4390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 30, 2023, 11:24:58 PM

Although Crawford dominated Spence on their first fight, we all know that Spence can adjust his tactics so that it can counter Crawford's.  As I watch the fight between Spence and Crawford, I feel like Spence is out of sync.  I do not know if it is because of Crawford's strategy but I guess, it was a different Spence than the usual one that we have seen on their first fight.  So I would not be confident to say that this rematch will have the same ending like before (knocking out Spence).  There is always an upset in boxing so there is still a possibility even a little for Spence to win the rematch.

It was too easy for Crawford, too easy. there's no way he has to turn them down when they ask for a re-match since no one really wants to fight him in the meantime in their weight division. so he sees this fight as easy money for him since this will be a blockbuster fight once again. maybe not as much as the first one but still this won't be like the other fights and Crawford should not underestimate him and give him some opportunity in this upcoming fight rather he should finish him off and make him realize that he really facing the wall of how far he can only go.
I also agree with you, for me Crawford what Spence did was retain his greatest vigilante, the one who cut off his head, because obviously the things when it comes to how to beat Crawford is the first one, Spence can adjust everything he wants, but if he meets in another 6 months, I dare say that Crawford will knock him out in the first round, because if we get to see each other, let's just make a brief recollection. Crawford dominated everything, from the beginning to the end, he had to give a good knockout to Spence, but he didn't use it that way, he wanted to take him to all those rounds just so that he would receive punishment, for him it was better that way because of everything that Spence made him wait for him to his revenge, and because of everything Spence talked about him, Spence believed that he was like a child who was talking to him, and look what they did to him, it's because Crawford had compassion and didn't want to hurt him any more, but it was for It left him worse, 'Spence came out all emaciated, Crawford looks like he hardly even sweated, Crawford's level right now is very high and if he has continued training with the same intensity I think this boxer could be at a level that is very difficult to reach for other Contenders , this has generated a lot of fury, in addition to Crawford's technique, that right hook that he has, I think he can knock out anyone with that blow, it is really something that every boxer has to take care of ,  I would be very Happy with his Right, well One hit from that to anyone sends them to the floor.


I know that now Spence has done badly, with a lot of punishment , for now the adjustments he makes I cannot deny will help him, but Spence needs a lot of time to be Able to train and have a Comparison with Crawford, I would say that he Trains day and night for 1 year, getting up at 4 a.m. to jog, run and hit it hard Every day, maybe that's the level to match it, but now, if he's a boxing Genius his body isn't going to Give it.
4391  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - November on: September 30, 2023, 10:18:09 PM
I guess he will have accomplished the win first from Tapales and unify all the belts. Then plan his stay for another exciting matchup
unless Tapales will activate the rematch claw (not sure though if that's possible)
It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.

Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"

All depends on how promoters will take it and how fans will react and push for whoever the next in line after Tapales.
Promoters will be happy to arrange that specific fight as it would certainly sell to the crowd. However, I have a feeling that the camp of Inoue might be a little concerned about their future due to the risk of losing to Casimero. Whether they will admit it or not, it's very obvious that they are not 100% confident that their monster boxer will win.

I don't think Naoya Inoue is interested in putting a rematch clause in his contract with Tapales. But Tapales can ask for it if he is not getting the money he wants. But technically it is hard to include a rematch clause in their fight since there are mandatories coming up soon. The IBF already has a mandatory waiting, the WBA has an upcoming eliminator fight and the WBC already had a partial eliminator but it could become mandatory depending on the situation.

I am curious about what made Inoue obviously scared of Casimero. Inoue wanted to become undisputed at 118 so he fought all 4 champions 1 by 1. Now he also wants to become an undisputed at 122. Inoue is busy fighting champions for his legacy while Casimero is busy fighting nobodies mate. Cheesy
well when it comes to fights with iniou the things are pretty good, first because he is a boxer who has no problem with giving revenge to anyone, the only thing he has right now is that he is a very busy boxer, almost what many want is to fight him , the fact that he has abandoned and left all his prizes, his belts in the past fights that he had in his previous weight condition, what I say is, fighting Inoue and not beating him is something very difficult to ask him to recvanvha and here The issue is not him, I am sure that he does want to give a rematch, it is that his very pace of advancing does not allow him to accept rematches, now all the most prominent boxers want to beat him, because the simple fact that he draws the attention of the He fights and does things well because it is something that many boxers want to lose their position, it is like saying that they can beat him.

When we look at the world of boxing, we also have to take Something very Important into consideration, which is that those in charge see the business model first, if in a supposed revenge match against Tapales they see him as having more options to add money than with a new boxer, well they will do it, if they see that against a more Famous boxer they have more money , then they Will only do it with the one that generates more spectacle and more money, now boxing has become a pure business model, pure money, sports have been put aside and all the marketing is being done so that they can generate more money, above the sport, the developers actually first look at the marketing study, if they see that it will generate more money with this boxer than with the other, they then go with the one who generates more, this is a chain that is never broken, therefore when we talk about boxing we have to wait to see which is the most famous boxer, because obviously with that The thing is that if the fight will take place, obviously right now Inou sees it as a gold mine, any fight everyone wants to go see the Japanesse.
4392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: September 30, 2023, 09:54:33 PM
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oh, that's interesting
didn't know about the go AIs, heard about it but just really little in the past

what we are seeing in art with AI is really cool too, many breakthroughs happening
we're hitting acceleration point now.

Yes, I think we are starting to enter the phase where human minds and AI minds work together to create new things.

This will be an inflection point in history, similar to how the Internet changed everything.

Not sure if I would call this phase of the technological era to be an inflection point, because even though we can be pretty much amazed about what it was been reached with Artificial intelligence, there is still a long path forward before developers and even politicians who need to regulate the ethical questions behind AI.

Rather than being a tool for people to be more productive, I am afraid big companies will seek to replace much of their personnel by robots or machines powered with AI, in the case of casinos, they could try to replace costumer service with Artificial Intelligence in the Future, not for now though, since managing accounts where money is deposited requires human common sense.

I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.
Well, that's something that normally calls attention a lot, because not only in some casinos do they have an AI in customer service, but in several things that have to do with payments for services or something like that they do, to pay for a service. cable, internet, the first thing you do when you have problems is to get AI Support , then when you can't solve the problem what they do is be able to have it or take it to human Support , in that case we can do Something now more Advanced than the AI I could not solve , but the truth is that I am very interested in the fact that one as a client can use an AI to solve a problem Can they take you to another plane and if the client's AI can take you to a human, what would their behavior be like? Because this is something that can take a while and a way to solve things that sometimes I don't know if it can give the solution or get worse, because the truth is I do know that the AI is Advanced, but not that Much, apart from this because I think that the things when it comes to how to Best make a Possible Process and Execute it, it is Another way of looking at it.

AI in these cases can be Useful , but for more Advanced, more Complicated things, it Could be Useful in Certain tools, of course not That it is always superior to a human, but it can help a lot, in the games of chance those who are training their robot is Quite difficult for them to be able to beat the seven of a casino, I don't see it as viable, because the Development is quite strong, the way I see it is for it to reach a good level of Development Well, I See it going hard , at Least for this 2023 I Don't see that it could be something that could be Threatening for any casino , but if they go at the speed they are Going, then it is possible that in 2 or 3 more years the AI will be a Little more Perfect And if you can threaten a casino System , that's why casinos now have Plenty of Security Sources.
4393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: September 30, 2023, 09:09:16 PM
What's worse is that gambling can cause the accumulation of debt to become greater, the relationship between husband and wife becomes messy and in the end it will have a much worse impact on life. The phrase don't play near a well if you don't want to fell it, might be suitable to describe it all and the decision is entirely up to each individual.
The importance of being open to each other and communicating well with your partner will help gambling become better, although maybe not many women like men who gamble, but believe me, if we are honest with our partner, he will definitely understand, just give him the trust to manage the gambling budget so that we not going too far because we need someone to remind us not to play too far.

I applied this to my wife where I asked her to manage all my gambling budget, after all there is no need to be in debt to anyone, it is better to gamble with money that we are ready to lose to have fun, after all my gambling habit is usually to fill my holiday time, not to make money, I always think of winning at gambling as a bonus. If I lose, just think of me paying for something that is fun for me. The point is to be open with our partner and honest so that it doesn't get messy, let alone make the relationship fall apart.
Well, this can be explained as a very good topic and for many it can serve as a way to improve or worsen their relationship situation, for example if a couple has a good relationship and if the man, because it is usually the man who who is most interested in doing these things, then two scenarios can happen, if he tells her and she agrees, perfect then it could be that both of them do it, whether they do well or badly in the game, since it is something that both of them They decided and got drunk in one of them, either they are doing well, or that it is like a roller coaster, sometimes they do well and sometimes badly, but they are both there, it could be that this activity brings them together, that is the best scenario. Now if the man proposes and the wife tells him no, that gambling means he loses a lot of money, if he doesn't do it, then he would, and don't let him do it because that will cause a mini-fight and if they have differences For other things previously, that can be prolonged because she will say that she wants to get addicted, and those things are for more probelams.

The scenarios with this type of things are quite strong, when it comes to women it is complicated, one does not know how they are going to react if they want or not, even if one knows them very well they are always going to look for the "but" that they don't. There is, then another problem may arise, because if you as a man play without saying anything to her, if she discovers it she will begin to complain that why didn't you tell her, why don't you tell her or communicate things to her, another thing is that If you play it secretly, it is not the right thing to do, firstly, because as a good man you should not hide from anyone, and if you do it, it is because you like it, or the tora is that you tell him clearly that you are going to gamble in a casino, that If she wants to play well or not, well, that's fine, but maybe that's just what she likes and wants to do, then nothing can be done, because each person must do what they like and the person who is with them must accept it. with things the way he likes them.
4394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Some of country can offer you legal gambling in 2023! on: September 30, 2023, 08:36:50 PM
Currently, the government is also upgrading it's technological strategies of tracking casinos that are violating its policies. It might be easier to track online fiat casinos but crypto casinos will always be difficult to monitor. Since some cryptocurrencies are decentralised the government will not be able to control crypto casinos. In my country gambling is forbidden in a region while another region promotes and gains tax from it. But when the revenue from taxing these gambling companies is shared, even the region that bans gambling will accept the revenue derived from casinos  Cheesy. The government will not ban corruption but they want to ban casinos. Most of all these politicians are just hypocrites and religious fanatics. The focus should be on promoting responsible gaming and not an outright gambling ban.
What we are seeing is that politicians are unable to keep up with the times, most politicians are very old and they refuse to leave even when it is obvious they cannot do their job properly, and this causes that they try to impose policies that make no sense at this time, if for example one of those politicians has a moral objection against gambling, I can respect that, but such objections should not be made into a law, because if they do, not only they will deny themselves a great deal of taxes but people will decide to gamble anyway, it is just that now they will hide their activities to avoid being prosecuted by those ridiculous laws.
Those politicians are very old but still want power and don't remember their old age. They can no longer carry out their duties well and instead have a bad influence on their subordinates so that these subordinates continue what their elders did. And that often happens when politicians use their power to get what they want. In this case, they want more money. So it's natural that we still hear rumors that politicians have their own casinos and operate underground. Many people protect their casinos so that the place can operate safely.

Political systems in many countries work in such a way that their true goals are not the welfare of citizens, but personal enrichment and ensuring the security of the system itself and the authorities that cover it. In the ranks of such political systems sit the same crooks, swindlers and subhumans who are willing to go to their heads just to hold on to power. That is why I have long since given up hope on the authorities, not only in matters of gambling and regulation of this sphere, but also in many other issues.

Well, seeing the potential of things, a lot can be said, first that many theories can be supported, what I can talk about is about the country I live in, yes, here a casino can be very successful as long as it gives the government what they want. ask, it just has to, but we also have to evaluate something very important, that in this country there are many people with too much money and who can do whatever they want with their money, in fact there are people who have so much money that they don't even know on what to spend it on, obviously if an online casino is promoted here, then it's easier, because those people will just enter, in fact many times I have proposed that because I live in a very good area where I have the ability to move between two countries, where both They are excellent for games of chance, of course the things or advertising schemes here are not like in Europe, the USA, which is digital, here a lot of promotion is handled by radio, by advertising berries, by posters in places that people frequent like the shopping centers or something like that, and the impact on new customers will be excellent because many do not know or trust the guys on the internet, because they say that they can steal them, so they do not have the culture of a forum where they can do different things, and investigate to see if you can get better information, then you come here through the old traditional advertising.


Of course I say that a casino that does well and with this advertising will make many enter, bet, because here things with the casinos are already allowed, before it was not allowed, but since things have already happened the things with the government, because obviously they give them a lot of money, because things have changed, in this order of ideas, there may be an unexplored market that has a lot of potential to be a very good customer for a traditional, digital online casino, but they have to deal with high-impact marketing to achieve satisfactory results.
4395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 30, 2023, 08:17:29 PM
I agree with your opinion, that a gambler will not become an addict if he is aware of all the risks when playing, if he plays too much, puts money in the hope of winning, of course that is impossible, on the contrary he will lose. all the money will be lost. And that will cause problems in his family and the problem in him is that he will regret having done that without thinking about other people.

In the case of gambling addicts they are harmful not only to the family but also to the society. At the beginning greed works in them to get more and when the rush reaches the point of desperation when everything is lost, taking a break from gambling will seem like the last thing you want, but it is necessary. Leaving gamblers after losing their large amount of money will give you the space and time to evaluate why it happened and how to prevent it from happening again. But a responsible gambler does not get greedy after earning a profit, they know the right rules of gambling so they are less likely to suffer.

Gambling addiction can really ruin a life and relationship. It can destroy you in every way possible and it can cause negative effect to the people close to you such as your family and to your friends. Addiction can bring trouble to you in terms of financial and even be a burden to your close ones because they might be the collateral damage for your irresponsibility. Greediness can bury you to pile of debts and loans. It will just bring you so much liabilities that might be too heavy to handle which could cost you a lot more later on. Self-reflection is much needed so that you won't be dependent to gambling.

Well here is something that we must highlight, which is when an addicted person can do, achieve, and they can have as a basis not to become addicted, but of course when we make a Sketch and we see that there are cases of addicted players, those who are alone are a case very far from how things may be with his family, an addict when things are just starting can look very Good even though he has been or had a very bad game and has lost a large amount of his money, still a peona He can maintain well the stauts cup of what his life is, but if the addicted person has more to be able to play his games and spends more and more, he falls into a state where he begins to lend money, and if he loses it, then he lends the money. double, the first to pay the lent, the second to be able to play, and so on until it becomes a big problem where he cannot solve it, then in this order of ideas, as a person who has seen this type of cases, it is very bad how it Ends.

I recently had a friend who had that way of life , and he had no choice but to sell his house, go to another country and had to leave the wife he had, fortunately he had no children , but he operated in every place he went. They knew him because he was only Going to trust and everywhere he left things to pay and that was how he Supported himself , as he had many tools and things, because he sold them to half resolve his situation or the most difficult debts, at least the debts He went to the supermarket or things like that because of his friendship and because they Knew it , they trusted him, but that lifestyle is very ugly, and all because he was betting in casinos, and when he discovered online casinos, he became much crazier and he had no control, at that moment he left his wife to endure hunger, and since he has a son in Spain , the son Sent him money and instead of paying , what he did was Spend it, not so Much in a casino but on Things Unnecessary, then sometimes that causes them a Mental imbalance in their Life.
4396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: September 30, 2023, 07:58:55 PM
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I always thought that mastering the multiplier machine is a big plus when you are playing Slots? I used to count how many rounds I've played before winning but I later do not care anymore, because this almost have an impact on me, thinking that I am this close to winning, I didn't want to end up having a big desire for gambling.

Sometimes I win and most times I don't, but because I solely focus on enjoying the fun out of Slots I don't even bother using any other strategy than making sure I don't use a lot of money on gambling, mostly when I can't afford it.

I've spend some money on multiple spins before and it got me nowhere, I think it's better not to expect a lot of good wins from slots, it's better to always remember to play with care all the times. Now I just do it for the fun part only.

Yes, that is the best way to enjoy gambling, just doing it for the fun of it.

It is impossible to actually predict when you are going to win something, so might as well enjoy your time.
Well I say something, if you are going to do an activity you should do it because you like to do it, not because you have to do it, when I work I put a lot of love and passion into what I do, because it doesn't make any kind of sense to do things. things to do just to fulfill and have a salary or money, and well with respect to the things that are with the tragtmondas it is something that has to be done with great care, because in this order of ideas the targoendas are strong enough so that it can be had As a basis to play and win, trams are very lucky, and well in these things you have to know how to bet, because I know many people who always do things in trams looking for quick and big profits, and yes, They can be done because slot machines are a game where with little money you can do a lot, it multiplies, and of course these things are what everyone sees and wants to achieve, for me these things are what a player focuses on and does.

Slot machines are a pretty strong case to make profits, there are people who have a lot of money and they play and lose everything, so in this group of ideas, to play on a slot machine you have to know how to do it because it doesn't make sense that with a lot of money get lost at once, I have been lucky to play in the games that I have made with little money, of course I am talking about 10usd that can take them to 160 or 200usd, that for me is a lot of money, for some it is not much but for The vast majority of people can be, so in this case for me it is enough, but I have also seen people who have millionaire profits on stake.com, and they publish that in the thread, of course we only see the tip of the iceberg, no We know how many times they have lost and how much they must have invested and the time it must take to be able to reach that level, so in everything we have to be consistent , that is why we have to do different ways of looking at it so that in the tragedies know how to play.
4397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 30, 2023, 07:02:20 PM
This could also happen because Brazil already has many world-class stars and players in its country. That's what makes children in Brazil dream of becoming great footballers. They can idolize players from their own country. And because these great players also come from Favella, it is a motivation for other children. Second, Brazil and football are like one unit. Just like the US with basketball. In Brazil, limited space and economic conditions make football the only sport that can be played by everyone.

It is not just the case with Brazil. Football is like the religion in the entire Latin American region, from Mexico in the North to Argentina and Chile in the South. In the US, that is not the case. They have more popular leagues such as the NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL. The local football league (MLS) is not that popular when compared with the other leagues. So it is not very surprising that US lags behind Latin American teams such as Brazil and Argentina, when it comes to football. Economic conditions in Latin America also favor football. You just need a ball, that costs as little as $5. 

Well, I had the opportunity to see only a part of Brazil, (Manus) when I was installing and maintaining medical equipment in the clinics, they sent me there, at that time I did my things quickly to be able to know and visit many places there, which was all great, apart from the fact that their people are very friendly, very good people, I realized that samba and football go hand in hand, they are very happy people, coincidentally the time I had to go, I had to play Brazil , and at that moment I liked what I saw, I saw all the Brazilians, or in their majority I saw them dressed in the flannel of Brazil, "the Green and Yellow" and all with their Brazilian flag, I love how queer they are in their country, they like it a lot, on that day no one worked, it is like a day of joy , just because the Brazilian team was going to play, that was impressive, and the atmosphere that was seen was one of joy and motivation that Brazil will win, and then On the night Brazil actually won and that was something great, the celebration everything was great, at that moment is when I said to myself, if I were to be born again I would like to be Brazilian because it is a very great, cool Country, all the time is joy , they have a lot of development and you can breathe football in every corner, initially when we say we wish we were born in Europe or in a place where the quality of life is high and good, where it is valued as a professional, one talks about those countries, but when you go Brazil Changes your way of Thinking, they are great people.

So I think that for this reason and more is that I say that Brazil will always be one of the countries that will always be at the top of the FIFA world ranking, because it is known that things there are good, it is the team that fights the most to Being a champion, they have a lot of talent since they were children, just seeing the example of Antony who plays in the MU is worthy of being praised by all, the case of Richarlison who is a determining player in the Brazilian team , who until now has not He scored a goal in the playoffs and that made him cry, things like that, how fútbol Feels is why Brazil will Always be one of the Best in the World.

4398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: September 30, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
Yeah, if the desire to quit is stronger inside no matter what the person will push it to happen, not easy as if it is that easy maybe we will see fewer people who will be engage and be addicted, most might quit before addiction take place but once you engage yourself and you already entertain the pleasure, most of the time you got out of control with your decision making.

Being responsible is something that needs to work out before stepping yourself into this activity. If you know by yourself that you
are not that good at controlling your emotion it's best not to take this route and find other things to entertain yourself.
Yes I will agree with you on every point made on this your comment, the act of responsible gambling has so much with first taking that conscious step to want to gamble responsibly coupled with a strong will to abide by your guidelines with which you will want to follow to guide you onto responsible gambling as anything outside this may cause you to still be the same regular gambler.

If you have a strong desire to stop then it's the very first step and most important step before to take, the desire to stop or reduce to responsible gambling must be stronger than the desire to want to always stake a bet or gamble. This works better for people who have strong self control as they can easily stop and decide not to continue with the act.

It's even more difficult when you have relatively good intervals of wins, you may want to continue because you will feel you have mastered the act enough not to loose or get addicted and may probably turn it into another source of income, the pleasure that comes with it been an alternative source of income can gradually get you engrossed and addicted gradually.so one should be conscious and particular about wanting to stop or be controlled.
What I think about all this is that when we are playing there are many ways there are to control profits and losses, but there is usually a case that when we are playing and we are very concentrated and we start winning, when we start winning, we start to try to think that we should do it faster and with more money because we know that the streaks are few, and that practically when we play and win that usually passes quickly and then comes the losing streak, which is the one we don't want to experience, but that is inevitable, on a personal level I think that a lost streak always makes us think that we must touch land from time to time, not to continue thinking that we can continue winning and winning, so in this order of ideas things can flow in a good sense of things, as long as we have the control to play and not gamble more than we should, 'well for me it's fine, it doesn't matter how long it takes us in the casino, not at all, hours can pass, but if the money that we are destined to lose is still at stake because we have to give it that day, that is, if things look better and we win, then we have to retire with good money and make that powerful withdrawal, to go and spend it on what we want. we like it the more, because that's what you win for.

Now having said all this, you can see in the approach where everything turns out very well and positive, but we also have to consider the effect if the opposite turns out, if we lose, what if we lose? Yes, we have everything right, but things don't work out and we lose! Nor do we have to lose control if we have the money ready to lose it, because we have to accept that loss and then come back the next day, or when we have that money that we are willing to lose, because the biggest mistake of all is that We are trying to recover our profits or what many do is seek to recover what was lost.
4399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Socialtournaments-A way to stop gambling addiction on: September 30, 2023, 06:11:17 PM
I don't know if many of you knows SocialTournaments where they hold free tournaments with different types,maximum multiplier,total points score and other related slot machines tournament,they are managed by Pragmatic Play provider and it is a way to invite people to gambling but I see it as an alternative to people who are addicted,they can stop the addiction as they offer enough daily,weekly and monthly tournaments to keep you entertained without you spending any money and if you are in luck and get the biggest multiplier or biggest score you even win real money to your account which you can withdraw to your crypto wallets.

I am in no way affiliated with them and you need big KYC,Proof of Address,National ID and Proof of Wallet to get your money.Do you think this platform can help people remove addiction,I think it can be a big boost to do so.
What you say makes sense, however addictions by definition are behaviors which do not make sense as people are engaging on attitudes that can destroy their health, finances and their most important relationships, and yet we see people choosing their addiction over anything else over and over again, so while this is a good move for those that may have some gambling issues, I do not think that it will produce the results that you could expect out of it.

What I think about all this is that when things are about being able to help an addict, it seems excellent to me, of course it is something that I like because everything that is in favor of help for them is the best, We don't know how hard it is to be in an addiction, but basically the things when it comes to helping solve or dissuade this problem for me is welcome, if there are social tournaments so that an addict can get out of the problem a little and stop their expenses in the casino, and apart from that things could happen much better, it is always good to try to provide help to the people who need it most, also the idea is good because they still feel adrenaline, they feel emotions, maybe not the same when It is played directly in a casino, but if it is good that something can be recreated that can be good for even a player with this problem, then in this order of ideas I see it as something positive.

Now if this is a method that is efficient to determine what can stop addiction in a person, then blessed be the one who invented it because it is helping or will be able to help many, I think the main thing about this is the intention with what is done, It is not so much to say that you want to combat addiction in people, and when a person falls into addiction there is nothing to do, you just have to find a way to get ahead, there is no other way to see it, if it is through a platform, there is only Just do it, you just have to take advantage of what is present, the technological tools if they serve to combat the addiction of people seem excellent to me, and everything that is to help these people so that they can let go of all this, well It seems excellent to me, now things are quite good when it comes to how to captivate all those who are undecided or those who perhaps want to enter but do not want to know their identity, it would be good if they could put in their own pseudo name and that's it, It's my only doubt.
4400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: September 30, 2023, 05:43:07 PM
When we have Groups on Telegram , it's good that they give them a beta version of what the VIP group is like, how it can manifest itself, but as long as we blindly trust what they say in a group, I think that's not the point, this It is something that can happen for better or worse, but personally I always say something, sometimes you have to give the vote of confidence of a particular group to see what it is like ? It is not known, it may work, but when we have a mix of knowledge and apart from a good group where they help us clear up doubts about bets on bets that we are not very sure about, it is good that they clarify us here, another thing that What I don't like about sports Betting Groups is that they launch predictions like this, without giving or showing an analysis, without acting like that, or you Know if they gave those predictions by Giving them to Fulfill.


Although I would not encourage anyone to join the paid sports bet groups but there is no harm in joining the free betting groups and seeing their free predictions about the matches. This is usually helpful in deciding on which team you will want to bet on. However, this does not mean that we blindly follow the signals from those groups and do not use our own minds and analysis.

Basically, i would prefer to first make my prediction and then get the confluence from the prediction groups and then place the actual bet. I will use the free sports group only to get an idea of other people's predictions.
Yes, things are like that, I personally have seen many things, many cases about how real this can be, it always happens to me that when I do certain things, because when there are groups that are free I can determine what things can be the best predictions, especially in the games that I know the most, well in the sports that I know the most, for example I love soccer, the UFC and Boxing, they are actually my** worst sports, also because they are the sports that I Practiced, and I think I know, that's why I like this guy from a group where they are free, I wouldn't give up for a group that is BVIP and they tell me that I have to put my bet on a team similar as in trading, where in trading they don't say or explain the reasons for this either, so for these things I have always said that the groups that are sports betting signals have to be good enough, for me to be able to stop doing something and have them show that it is true, apart from the fact that the failure rate for me must be in the order of 85% to be credible, I leave 15% to lose, that is, out of 100 bets at least 15 It is acceptable to lose for me as long as the others are correct.

Of course, this is a range that I have established for myself to be able to have control of my finances, if I am in a VIP group I have the right to demand, there is no other option, I believe it must be like that, I cannot say that there is one thing or another. That there really is a constant way to make money by betting, everything represents a risk yes, but if they are experts, owners of a group where they do get paid, then they have to be highly efficient in the results, otherwise, to me it makes no sense that sgioa betting there, maybe I'm very radical in that sense, but in a paid group , it has to be demanded, otherwise I would feel robbed because it is additional money that I have to take out to pay someone Else.

Edit: To edit where I put worse **"with my best sports", I wrote instead of better worse, but thanks to slapper.
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