[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[Dave1]

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oh, that's interesting
didn't know about the go AIs, heard about it but just really little in the past

what we are seeing in art with AI is really cool too, many breakthroughs happening
we're hitting acceleration point now.

Yes, I think we are starting to enter the phase where human minds and AI minds work together to create new things.

This will be an inflection point in history, similar to how the Internet changed everything.

Maybe in the future we will see AI and human interact together for the betterment of the world. But as far as sports predictions, as this point I highly doubt that they can predict the outcome as humans do as there are a lot of parameters to look.

And if I remember correctly, there is one thread wherein AI tries to predict the outcome of a UFC matchup and it was a disaster if you follow that prediction.

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[nullama]

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Maybe in the future we will see AI and human interact together for the betterment of the world. But as far as sports predictions, as this point I highly doubt that they can predict the outcome as humans do as there are a lot of parameters to look.

And if I remember correctly, there is one thread wherein AI tries to predict the outcome of a UFC matchup and it was a disaster if you follow that prediction.

At the end of the day, human level prediction will remain at the same position, whereas AI predictions keep getting better every few months.

This means that at some point, AI systems will be able to predict a result better than a human expert.

Of course it will never be 100% correct, but it only needs to be better than the human expert to be able to generate money.

[Betwrong]

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Maybe in the future we will see AI and human interact together for the betterment of the world. But as far as sports predictions, as this point I highly doubt that they can predict the outcome as humans do as there are a lot of parameters to look.

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But isn't it easier for AI to look at a lot of parameters? Machines have been doing it for many years, analyzing better than humans something with a lot of parameters. I agree that at this point we don't have such an AI or we don't know how to properly prompt it. But I'm sure, in the future using AI to predict outcomes with a good accuracy will be possible.

[ethereumhunter]

Maybe in the future we will see AI and human interact together for the betterment of the world. But as far as sports predictions, as this point I highly doubt that they can predict the outcome as humans do as there are a lot of parameters to look.

And if I remember correctly, there is one thread wherein AI tries to predict the outcome of a UFC matchup and it was a disaster if you follow that prediction.

It still needs further development for AI technology, which could happen, especially if more developers join to create better AI models. Maybe for now, AI can only predict sports and is still limited in its search for information, but over time and with updates from each developer, AI will get better. Seeing that the development of AI is still in its early stages, I think it is natural that AI cannot predict well. But I think the developer will fix this so we should remain patient and wait for good news from them.

[nullama]

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It still needs further development for AI technology, which could happen, especially if more developers join to create better AI models. Maybe for now, AI can only predict sports and is still limited in its search for information, but over time and with updates from each developer, AI will get better. Seeing that the development of AI is still in its early stages, I think it is natural that AI cannot predict well. But I think the developer will fix this so we should remain patient and wait for good news from them.

The thing is that now there are some open source models that have been released that are quite powerful, and that means that people might already be designing great AI for specific domains, and using that for their advantage.

We really don't know who or at what level, but it is definitely happening.

[ethereumhunter]

The thing is that now there are some open source models that have been released that are quite powerful, and that means that people might already be designing great AI for specific domains, and using that for their advantage.

We really don't know who or at what level, but it is definitely happening.

With open source, it will invite more and more developers to get involved in various AI projects and work on them for later release. With the release of AI projects from many developers, AI projects will grow even more because each developer will use their abilities to design great AI models for various domains, not just the gambling business.

Supported by increasingly advanced technology, the development of AI will also become more advanced and better. In the next 5 years or 10 years or even 20 years, there will be AI models that will be much better than the current ones. Everything will change so quickly that we will not expect it because the development of existing technology will help everyone, including human activities.

[nullama]

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With open source, it will invite more and more developers to get involved in various AI projects and work on them for later release. With the release of AI projects from many developers, AI projects will grow even more because each developer will use their abilities to design great AI models for various domains, not just the gambling business.

Supported by increasingly advanced technology, the development of AI will also become more advanced and better. In the next 5 years or 10 years or even 20 years, there will be AI models that will be much better than the current ones. Everything will change so quickly that we will not expect it because the development of existing technology will help everyone, including human activities.

The speed of advancement of AI is incredible. It took about 10 years from the initial AlexNet (the winner of the Visual Recognition Challenge 2012) to now having generative AI advancements every year basically.

Even months is a short amount of time with all the big techs competing against each other to win the AI race

[Weawant]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Personally I don't use chatgpt for sports prediction because I think most of the predictions AI would give will be as a result of cumulative statistics it has gotten from the history of the sporting events, so more often than non AI predictions are usually statistics based as AI do not watch games but get information from statistics provided by sites and analyst on the media.

But when you do your prediction your self it's a combination of statistics and instincts put together which in most cases could be considered logical enough this does not not mean AI do not give accurate predictions as human do, definitely some AI predictions can be so accurate you would be glad you did used it as I have observed with some persons who has used it.

I have not used it before although I intend to try it in the nearest future but I will not be solely dependent on it's prediction as I will incorporate my personal perspective aswell due to my reservations I have with AI. This sports are done by humans and the human tendencies could set in sometimes and render statistics unreliable and that is which upon which AI depends.

[ethereumhunter]

The speed of advancement of AI is incredible. It took about 10 years from the initial AlexNet (the winner of the Visual Recognition Challenge 2012) to now having generative AI advancements every year basically.

Even months is a short amount of time with all the big techs competing against each other to win the AI race

There is no doubt that the pace of AI progress will accelerate in the next few years as it is supported by increasingly better technology. From time to time, AI gets more developers to work together to improve AI so that AI progress will also improve.

Later, when we get results that match what we want, we will see that AI works according to what we want so that it can help with activities or provide good results for us. That's where we can see the development of AI, which has reached an even better model than now. Meanwhile, the developers continue to ensure that AI can work according to its field.

[Jating]

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With open source, it will invite more and more developers to get involved in various AI projects and work on them for later release. With the release of AI projects from many developers, AI projects will grow even more because each developer will use their abilities to design great AI models for various domains, not just the gambling business.

Supported by increasingly advanced technology, the development of AI will also become more advanced and better. In the next 5 years or 10 years or even 20 years, there will be AI models that will be much better than the current ones. Everything will change so quickly that we will not expect it because the development of existing technology will help everyone, including human activities.

The speed of advancement of AI is incredible. It took about 10 years from the initial AlexNet (the winner of the Visual Recognition Challenge 2012) to now having generative AI advancements every year basically.

Even months is a short amount of time with all the big techs competing against each other to win the AI race

I don't know maybe we can also count Deep Blue, a project that was build by IBM and take the task to have a 6 games matches against the number 1 chess player that time in Gary Kasparov and beat him.

But recently, the phase was really accelerate to the point that we feel threaten, specially the notion that AI might be used for jobs that is supposedly design for Human. In any case in sports, it might take several years. However, I don't know if they can perfectly predicted the outcome though, as there are a lot of sports analysis that is needed just to be able to somewhat predict the correct winner.

[slapper]

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With open source, it will invite more and more developers to get involved in various AI projects and work on them for later release. With the release of AI projects from many developers, AI projects will grow even more because each developer will use their abilities to design great AI models for various domains, not just the gambling business.

Supported by increasingly advanced technology, the development of AI will also become more advanced and better. In the next 5 years or 10 years or even 20 years, there will be AI models that will be much better than the current ones. Everything will change so quickly that we will not expect it because the development of existing technology will help everyone, including human activities.

The speed of advancement of AI is incredible. It took about 10 years from the initial AlexNet (the winner of the Visual Recognition Challenge 2012) to now having generative AI advancements every year basically.

Even months is a short amount of time with all the big techs competing against each other to win the AI race

I don't know maybe we can also count Deep Blue, a project that was build by IBM and take the task to have a 6 games matches against the number 1 chess player that time in Gary Kasparov and beat him.

But recently, the phase was really accelerate to the point that we feel threaten, specially the notion that AI might be used for jobs that is supposedly design for Human. In any case in sports, it might take several years. However, I don't know if they can perfectly predicted the outcome though, as there are a lot of sports analysis that is needed just to be able to somewhat predict the correct winner.

Deep Blue defeated Garry Kasparov is a significant event. The acceleration of AI's progress is overwhelming. Yes, it threatens our jobs and livelihoods. Human work, jobs, and functions are being taken over by AI. Fear and concern are apparent

Predicting sports outcomes? It’s still a grey area. Although AI can evaluate massive amounts of data, can it understand sports' unpredictable, dynamic nature? The human factor, unexpected turns, adrenaline rush... AI: Can it forecast everything? Years of expertise, intuition, and understanding help sports commentators predict. Can AI duplicate instinct and depth? Don't you see a big limit?

[nullama]

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Deep Blue defeated Garry Kasparov is a significant event. The acceleration of AI's progress is overwhelming. Yes, it threatens our jobs and livelihoods. Human work, jobs, and functions are being taken over by AI. Fear and concern are apparent

Predicting sports outcomes? It’s still a grey area. Although AI can evaluate massive amounts of data, can it understand sports' unpredictable, dynamic nature? The human factor, unexpected turns, adrenaline rush... AI: Can it forecast everything? Years of expertise, intuition, and understanding help sports commentators predict. Can AI duplicate instinct and depth? Don't you see a big limit?

There is no actual threat, AI is a tool, there will be new ways of doing things, and people will value more certain industries and less others, plus some industries will be created and others will be decimated.

It is going to be a big change, but there will always be a need for human connection at least

[noormcs5]

Personally I don't use chatgpt for sports prediction because I think most of the predictions AI would give will be as a result of cumulative statistics it has gotten from the history of the sporting events, so more often than non AI predictions are usually statistics based as AI do not watch games but get information from statistics provided by sites and analyst on the media.

Depending upon Chat GPT for making the sports predictions is totally wrong. The ChatGPT cannot predict correctly based on the changes in the current ground realities like some key player may get injured or there is a change of weather that may have an impact on a particular sport like cricket.

However, while making a bet, you would like to have some history and stats about the previous matches and the players. Let's suppose you are betting on who will win the football world cup but before that you need to see some of the stats of the previous world cup. In that case, in instead of google, chatGPT may become a very handy tool that can give you information within minutes or seconds.

I would prefer combination of chatGPT plus my own analysis for placing the sports bets.

[bittraffic]

Personally I don't use chatgpt for sports prediction because I think most of the predictions AI would give will be as a result of cumulative statistics it has gotten from the history of the sporting events, so more often than non AI predictions are usually statistics based as AI do not watch games but get information from statistics provided by sites and analyst on the media.

Depending upon Chat GPT for making the sports predictions is totally wrong. The ChatGPT cannot predict correctly based on the changes in the current ground realities like some key player may get injured or there is a change of weather that may have an impact on a particular sport like cricket.

However, while making a bet, you would like to have some history and stats about the previous matches and the players. Let's suppose you are betting on who will win the football world cup but before that you need to see some of the stats of the previous world cup. In that case, in instead of google, chatGPT may become a very handy tool that can give you information within minutes or seconds.

I would prefer combination of chatGPT plus my own analysis for placing the sports bets.

Most of the time though sports gamblers are also looking into the cumulative statistics to foresee the results of future matches. The Bing AI chat as far as I know predicted the majority of match results.  Although it did make a few mistakes, it's almost good to be used for parlays but it's up for you to risk as well.

An Injury of athletes is hard to predict though so maybe it's still not as preferred for someone who trusts their judgments.

[Latviand]

The current ChatGPT version only has 2022 data iirc so you're better off using Bard AI if you want to test out an AI's prediction on sports, Bard's still in experimental stage so tread lightly when you plan to use it for real. Regarding the morality of using AI for sportsbetting I think that it's not a bad idea to use them especially if it helps you put in perspective on the teams you want to bet on but using AI to bet blindly, I think it's stupid.

[Betwrong]

The current ChatGPT version only has 2022 data iirc so you're better off using Bard AI if you want to test out an AI's prediction on sports, Bard's still in experimental stage so tread lightly when you plan to use it for real.

OMG, you are right! I just checked and indeed Bard's knowledge is up to date:



I didn't know that, thank you! Have you tried to use Bard for predicting outcomes?

Regarding the morality of using AI for sportsbetting I think that it's not a bad idea to use them especially if it helps you put in perspective on the teams you want to bet on but using AI to bet blindly, I think it's stupid.

There's nothing immoral in using AI for sportsbetting. Unless it's forbidden by the site, you are good to go. But I undeerstand why the question arises. Anything new encounters suspicion and hostility at first. Like using zippers instead of buttons was considered "infernal" by some.

[Lucasgabd]

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oh, that's interesting
didn't know about the go AIs, heard about it but just really little in the past

what we are seeing in art with AI is really cool too, many breakthroughs happening
we're hitting acceleration point now.

Yes, I think we are starting to enter the phase where human minds and AI minds work together to create new things.

This will be an inflection point in history, similar to how the Internet changed everything.

Not sure if I would call this phase of the technological era to be an inflection point, because even though we can be pretty much amazed about what it was been reached with Artificial intelligence, there is still a long path forward before developers and even politicians who need to regulate the ethical questions behind AI.

Rather than being a tool for people to be more productive, I am afraid big companies will seek to replace much of their personnel by robots or machines powered with AI, in the case of casinos, they could try to replace costumer service with Artificial Intelligence in the Future, not for now though, since managing accounts where money is deposited requires human common sense.

I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.

[KTChampions]

Hehe. What I already wrote about in this thread is getting closer - the other day OpenAI released a new version of ChatGTP and now the neural network can work with video and audio input. From this to the moment when the neural network can massively receive data in this way (for example, watch an entire season of Serie A in a couple of hours) is quite a bit. After this, the neural network will be independent of humans in terms of obtaining data and, most likely, the meaning of forecasting with its help will increase exponentially.

[nullama]

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I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.

Of course, you could have an AI assistant that talks to an AI of a company to say, make you an appointment.

It is basically going to be the new API. AIs talking to other AIs.

There is no problem with it

[LUCKMCFLY]

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oh, that's interesting
didn't know about the go AIs, heard about it but just really little in the past

what we are seeing in art with AI is really cool too, many breakthroughs happening
we're hitting acceleration point now.

Yes, I think we are starting to enter the phase where human minds and AI minds work together to create new things.

This will be an inflection point in history, similar to how the Internet changed everything.

Not sure if I would call this phase of the technological era to be an inflection point, because even though we can be pretty much amazed about what it was been reached with Artificial intelligence, there is still a long path forward before developers and even politicians who need to regulate the ethical questions behind AI.

Rather than being a tool for people to be more productive, I am afraid big companies will seek to replace much of their personnel by robots or machines powered with AI, in the case of casinos, they could try to replace costumer service with Artificial Intelligence in the Future, not for now though, since managing accounts where money is deposited requires human common sense.

I don't really think we'll have the time for regulators to adapt
we can see it with crypto, many are creating laws about things they don't even understand and the few who do are stuck in a system that is too slow to adapt.

Regarding replacing costumer service for AIs, you can fight that by creating an AI to contact costumer support for you as well.

Every knife cuts for the two sides in these cases.

Well, that's something that normally calls attention a lot, because not only in some casinos do they have an AI in customer service, but in several things that have to do with payments for services or something like that they do, to pay for a service. cable, internet, the first thing you do when you have problems is to get AI Support , then when you can't solve the problem what they do is be able to have it or take it to human Support , in that case we can do Something now more Advanced than the AI I could not solve , but the truth is that I am very interested in the fact that one as a client can use an AI to solve a problem Can they take you to another plane and if the client's AI can take you to a human, what would their behavior be like? Because this is something that can take a while and a way to solve things that sometimes I don't know if it can give the solution or get worse, because the truth is I do know that the AI is Advanced, but not that Much, apart from this because I think that the things when it comes to how to Best make a Possible Process and Execute it, it is Another way of looking at it.

AI in these cases can be Useful , but for more Advanced, more Complicated things, it Could be Useful in Certain tools, of course not That it is always superior to a human, but it can help a lot, in the games of chance those who are training their robot is Quite difficult for them to be able to beat the seven of a casino, I don't see it as viable, because the Development is quite strong, the way I see it is for it to reach a good level of Development Well, I See it going hard , at Least for this 2023 I Don't see that it could be something that could be Threatening for any casino , but if they go at the speed they are Going, then it is possible that in 2 or 3 more years the AI will be a Little more Perfect And if you can threaten a casino System , that's why casinos now have Plenty of Security Sources.