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September 24, 2023, 10:59:06 PM
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I read that this is the 4 fighters that Inoue wanted to face before moving up in division,

1. 🇵🇭 Marlon Tapales - This November
2. 🇵🇭 John Riel Casimero
3. 🇲🇽Luis Nery
4. 🇺🇿MJ Akhmadaliev

Can we have an official source to these? As far as Inoue is concerned, he is not a type of boxer that target a certain boxer in terms of he really want that to be his opponent. Marlon Tapales isn't on Inoue's radar but since the Pinoy boxer got the championship belt, then he needs to fight him as that was a mandatory to become the undisputed champion in the Super Bantamweight Division.

Maybe that list is those who wants to face Inoue instead and try to keep the monster at the Super Bantamweight for the meantime.

Luis Nery is honestly just full of talks. He won't stand a chance against Inoue. On the list, it's really John Riel Casimero as a better opponent for him although even I will support Quadro Alas here, Inoue is seems to be the better fight over him. Casimero have a hard time dominating the unranked boxer he faced on his last fight. If that performance will be applied against Inoue, it's a clear win already for the Japanese.
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September 24, 2023, 11:10:10 PM
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I read that this is the 4 fighters that Inoue wanted to face before moving up in division,

1. 🇵🇭 Marlon Tapales - This November
2. 🇵🇭 John Riel Casimero
3. 🇲🇽Luis Nery
4. 🇺🇿MJ Akhmadaliev

Can we have an official source to these? As far as Inoue is concerned, he is not a type of boxer that target a certain boxer in terms of he really want that to be his opponent. Marlon Tapales isn't on Inoue's radar but since the Pinoy boxer got the championship belt, then he needs to fight him as that was a mandatory to become the undisputed champion in the Super Bantamweight Division.

Maybe that list is those who wants to face Inoue instead and try to keep the monster at the Super Bantamweight for the meantime.

Luis Nery is honestly just full of talks. He won't stand a chance against Inoue. On the list, it's really John Riel Casimero as a better opponent for him although even I will support Quadro Alas here, Inoue is seems to be the better fight over him. Casimero have a hard time dominating the unranked boxer he faced on his last fight. If that performance will be applied against Inoue, it's a clear win already for the Japanese.


I looked on the internet and happen to find this article: https://fightnews.com/naoya-inoue-even-if-all-belts-unified-ill-stay-in-the-122lb-division/150758

The statement is from his manager and promoter Hideyuki Ohashi, stating that after the unification fight against Tapales, they might consider fighting John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery.  I haven't found the article that Inoue is also looking to have a match against Akhmadaliev.

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His manager and promoter Hideyuki Ohashi, former WBC and WBA world minimum champ, explained his blue print. “If possible, Naoya will exchange gloves with Tapales for unification this year. Then, next year, he may face John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery. Robeisy Ramirez might be Naoya’s future target should he move up to the featherweight division in the future.”
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Also the former champion, although upset by Tapales, I think Akhmadaliev is still good test for Inoue.

But Inoue's first goal will be the other champion in Tapales.

Why would Inoue go down to fight a boxer who has already lost to a fighter he beat, in case he wins against Tapales? It wouldn't excite the fans anymore. I think he should go up against either Nery or Casimero. But as a fan, I would vote for Casimero over Nery, so that finally Inoue won't be bashed by some Filipino fans who think Inoue is afraid of Casimero.

Same with your sentiment, not sure if Inoue will seek for AKhmadaliev since the fighter already lost his belt with Tapales, might be possible to take either Casimero or Nery after he successfully beats Tapales.

Almost there for Casimero if ever Inoue will stay for a while after unifying all the belts in this division
maybe Casimero's fans will try to hype this to bring the attentions of the promoter to make it happen.
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September 25, 2023, 12:11:57 PM
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Also the former champion, although upset by Tapales, I think Akhmadaliev is still good test for Inoue.

But Inoue's first goal will be the other champion in Tapales.

Why would Inoue go down to fight a boxer who has already lost to a fighter he beat, in case he wins against Tapales? It wouldn't excite the fans anymore. I think he should go up against either Nery or Casimero. But as a fan, I would vote for Casimero over Nery, so that finally Inoue won't be bashed by some Filipino fans who think Inoue is afraid of Casimero.

Same with your sentiment, not sure if Inoue will seek for AKhmadaliev since the fighter already lost his belt with Tapales, might be possible to take either Casimero or Nery after he successfully beats Tapales.

Almost there for Casimero if ever Inoue will stay for a while after unifying all the belts in this division
maybe Casimero's fans will try to hype this to bring the attentions of the promoter to make it happen.

We've been hyping it up, LOL. As a fan of both fighters, we want to see the Inoue vs. Casimero fight happen. Right now, Casimero is the closest in terms of skills to Inoue, but if Inoue continues to avoid Casimero, there's nothing we can do but we might lose a little respect for Inoue and doubt if he can really dominate everyone. I think there's nothing to be afraid of on Inoue's side; Casimero is not a champion and not even very popular right now because he lost his belt, so why not grant the fans' request?

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September 25, 2023, 01:03:12 PM
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I think there's nothing to be afraid of on Inoue's side; Casimero is not a champion and not even very popular right now because he lost his belt, so why not grant the fans' request?
There is to be afraid of because they know that Casimero can compete well against Inoue. If the fight happens, I'm sure it's going to be a championship bout, and Inoue will be putting his belt on the line. Imagine if Casimero wins; that would mean Inoue is no longer a champion and undefeated. Inoue might probably include a rematch clause to redeem himself, but what if Casimero beats him again? That could significantly impact Inoue's future, and people might stop talking about him. Currently, he is a very hyped fighter because of his achievements, so it gives a good opportunity for Casimero if this fight will materialize.

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September 25, 2023, 02:29:55 PM
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I think there's nothing to be afraid of on Inoue's side; Casimero is not a champion and not even very popular right now because he lost his belt, so why not grant the fans' request?
There is to be afraid of because they know that Casimero can compete well against Inoue. If the fight happens, I'm sure it's going to be a championship bout, and Inoue will be putting his belt on the line. Imagine if Casimero wins; that would mean Inoue is no longer a champion and undefeated. Inoue might probably include a rematch clause to redeem himself, but what if Casimero beats him again? That could significantly impact Inoue's future, and people might stop talking about him. Currently, he is a very hyped fighter because of his achievements, so it gives a good opportunity for Casimero if this fight will materialize.

Inoue won't see a point in fighting Casimero since he is up to get more belts. Casimero is nothing to him and may not want anything to do with him unless he has a belt. Casimero is not like Pacman with a huge fan base in the US or Japan. If Arum has to look at how to make money out of this match, he'll have a hard time breaking even.

Lets say Casimero can definitely defeat Inoue, so why would Arum want that to happen when Inoue is his best money maker?


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September 25, 2023, 02:37:47 PM
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I think there's nothing to be afraid of on Inoue's side; Casimero is not a champion and not even very popular right now because he lost his belt, so why not grant the fans' request?
There is to be afraid of because they know that Casimero can compete well against Inoue. If the fight happens, I'm sure it's going to be a championship bout, and Inoue will be putting his belt on the line. Imagine if Casimero wins; that would mean Inoue is no longer a champion and undefeated. Inoue might probably include a rematch clause to redeem himself, but what if Casimero beats him again? That could significantly impact Inoue's future, and people might stop talking about him. Currently, he is a very hyped fighter because of his achievements, so it gives a good opportunity for Casimero if this fight will materialize.

Inoue won't see a point in fighting Casimero since he is up to get more belts. Casimero is nothing to him and may not want anything to do with him unless he has a belt. Casimero is not like Pacman with a huge fan base in the US or Japan. If Arum has to look at how to make money out of this match, he'll have a hard time breaking even.

Lets say Casimero can definitely defeat Inoue, so why would Arum want that to happen when Inoue is his best money maker?

As this point yes, maybe Inoue is not keen on fighting Casimero because John Riel doesn't have the belt.
But he could view Casimero as a good challenger as well, so why not fight him and defeated that big mouth Filipino?
So still up to him, if he can beat Tapales and he had what it says a hit list and Casimero is one of them then maybe we might see them in the ring.
But Casimero is not getting any younger though, so not sure if there will be enough time for them to cross path in the future.

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September 25, 2023, 02:52:05 PM
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I think there's nothing to be afraid of on Inoue's side; Casimero is not a champion and not even very popular right now because he lost his belt, so why not grant the fans' request?
There is to be afraid of because they know that Casimero can compete well against Inoue. If the fight happens, I'm sure it's going to be a championship bout, and Inoue will be putting his belt on the line. Imagine if Casimero wins; that would mean Inoue is no longer a champion and undefeated. Inoue might probably include a rematch clause to redeem himself, but what if Casimero beats him again? That could significantly impact Inoue's future, and people might stop talking about him. Currently, he is a very hyped fighter because of his achievements, so it gives a good opportunity for Casimero if this fight will materialize.

Inoue won't see a point in fighting Casimero since he is up to get more belts. Casimero is nothing to him and may not want anything to do with him unless he has a belt. Casimero is not like Pacman with a huge fan base in the US or Japan. If Arum has to look at how to make money out of this match, he'll have a hard time breaking even.

Lets say Casimero can definitely defeat Inoue, so why would Arum want that to happen when Inoue is his best money maker?

As this point yes, maybe Inoue is not keen on fighting Casimero because John Riel doesn't have the belt.
But he could view Casimero as a good challenger as well, so why not fight him and defeated that big mouth Filipino?
So still up to him, if he can beat Tapales and he had what it says a hit list and Casimero is one of them then maybe we might see them in the ring.
But Casimero is not getting any younger though, so not sure if there will be enough time for them to cross path in the future.

If he could beat Tapales, there's a huge chance it will happen, but fighting Casimero, who is a champion, is a little questionable, as Inoue had a chance before but didn't activate the fight. If we still remember, they were supposed to face each other before the pandemic, but that fight was supposed to be moved. What happened is it was canceled. That's why you can't blame people for asking for this fight, especially the fans of Casimero.

Yes, Casimero has a loud mouth, but I believe he didn't act like that before. He probably got frustrated about why Inoue didn't fight him, and he may just want to see that fight happening. The only way he believes it would happen is if he continues to taunt Inoue.

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September 26, 2023, 12:46:40 PM
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I read that this is the 4 fighters that Inoue wanted to face before moving up in division,

1. 🇵🇭 Marlon Tapales - This November
2. 🇵🇭 John Riel Casimero
3. 🇲🇽Luis Nery
4. 🇺🇿MJ Akhmadaliev

Can we have an official source to these? As far as Inoue is concerned, he is not a type of boxer that target a certain boxer in terms of he really want that to be his opponent. Marlon Tapales isn't on Inoue's radar but since the Pinoy boxer got the championship belt, then he needs to fight him as that was a mandatory to become the undisputed champion in the Super Bantamweight Division.

Maybe that list is those who wants to face Inoue instead and try to keep the monster at the Super Bantamweight for the meantime.

Luis Nery is honestly just full of talks. He won't stand a chance against Inoue. On the list, it's really John Riel Casimero as a better opponent for him although even I will support Quadro Alas here, Inoue is seems to be the better fight over him. Casimero have a hard time dominating the unranked boxer he faced on his last fight. If that performance will be applied against Inoue, it's a clear win already for the Japanese.


I looked on the internet and happen to find this article: https://fightnews.com/naoya-inoue-even-if-all-belts-unified-ill-stay-in-the-122lb-division/150758

The statement is from his manager and promoter Hideyuki Ohashi, stating that after the unification fight against Tapales, they might consider fighting John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery.  I haven't found the article that Inoue is also looking to have a match against Akhmadaliev.

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His manager and promoter Hideyuki Ohashi, former WBC and WBA world minimum champ, explained his blue print. “If possible, Naoya will exchange gloves with Tapales for unification this year. Then, next year, he may face John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery. Robeisy Ramirez might be Naoya’s future target should he move up to the featherweight division in the future.”

I guess he will have accomplished the win first from Tapales and unify all the belts. Then plan his stay for another exciting matchup
unless Tapales will activate the rematch claw (not sure though if that's possible)

Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"

All depends on how promoters will take it and how fans will react and push for whoever the next in line after Tapales.
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September 26, 2023, 05:25:33 PM
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I guess he will have accomplished the win first from Tapales and unify all the belts. Then plan his stay for another exciting matchup
unless Tapales will activate the rematch claw (not sure though if that's possible)
It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.

Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"

All depends on how promoters will take it and how fans will react and push for whoever the next in line after Tapales.
Promoters will be happy to arrange that specific fight as it would certainly sell to the crowd. However, I have a feeling that the camp of Inoue might be a little concerned about their future due to the risk of losing to Casimero. Whether they will admit it or not, it's very obvious that they are not 100% confident that their monster boxer will win.
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September 27, 2023, 04:06:38 AM
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I read that this is the 4 fighters that Inoue wanted to face before moving up in division,

1. 🇵🇭 Marlon Tapales - This November
2. 🇵🇭 John Riel Casimero
3. 🇲🇽Luis Nery
4. 🇺🇿MJ Akhmadaliev

Can we have an official source to these? As far as Inoue is concerned, he is not a type of boxer that target a certain boxer in terms of he really want that to be his opponent. Marlon Tapales isn't on Inoue's radar but since the Pinoy boxer got the championship belt, then he needs to fight him as that was a mandatory to become the undisputed champion in the Super Bantamweight Division.

Maybe that list is those who wants to face Inoue instead and try to keep the monster at the Super Bantamweight for the meantime.

Luis Nery is honestly just full of talks. He won't stand a chance against Inoue. On the list, it's really John Riel Casimero as a better opponent for him although even I will support Quadro Alas here, Inoue is seems to be the better fight over him. Casimero have a hard time dominating the unranked boxer he faced on his last fight. If that performance will be applied against Inoue, it's a clear win already for the Japanese.

As I have said, i read it from a Twitter account, I'll try to get back and see which account it is. But regardless though, do you think that it's logical for Inoue to face this boxer if he decided to stay at this division? Tapales could be not in his radar initially, but since he upset Akhmadaliev then it makes sense for Inoue to go after him and they have a supposedly fight this November (but no official word yet).

For the others, Casimero is improving his rank in the super bantamweight and many fans wanted to see if he can test Inoue because that's what he claim. And then Luis Nery, although ban in Japan, is still a good fighter in this division. And then the man that Tapales beat, Akhmadaliev, is for me another great boxer that Inoue can fight before to the Featherweight division.
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September 27, 2023, 05:02:55 AM
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Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"
The fans are waiting and I think the hype is still there. So if this fight will push through, many fans of these boxers will be delighted that finally it will going to happen. Thus, hope they consider before the monster move up in division.

It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.
There's always a possibility for this scenario to happen. But if we think of what might be the realistic outcome of this fight, upset is unlikely knowing how good the monster is. That's why he is also confident to win and unified the title though still, this is not official yet.

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Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"
The fans are waiting and I think the hype is still there. So if this fight will push through, many fans of these boxers will be delighted that finally it will going to happen. Thus, hope they consider before the monster move up in division.
The fight will probably happen because, in the end, boxing is entertainment, and fans want to see an exciting match. The more fighters try to make it happen, the better. I believe Casimero's camp has no problem with that, but Inoue should also be willing to take some risks if he considers Casimero a tough challenger.

If this fight doesn't happen, it's like fans are being robbed of a great spectacle.


It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.
There's always a possibility for this scenario to happen. But if we think of what might be the realistic outcome of this fight, upset is unlikely knowing how good the monster is. That's why he is also confident to win and unified the title though still, this is not official yet.

We have our champion here, Tapales, and yet we don't believe he could beat Inoue. Instead, we think Casimero, who isn't even ranked highly, might give Inoue some significant trouble.

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I guess he will have accomplished the win first from Tapales and unify all the belts. Then plan his stay for another exciting matchup
unless Tapales will activate the rematch claw (not sure though if that's possible)
It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.

Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"

All depends on how promoters will take it and how fans will react and push for whoever the next in line after Tapales.
Promoters will be happy to arrange that specific fight as it would certainly sell to the crowd. However, I have a feeling that the camp of Inoue might be a little concerned about their future due to the risk of losing to Casimero. Whether they will admit it or not, it's very obvious that they are not 100% confident that their monster boxer will win.

I don't think Naoya Inoue is interested in putting a rematch clause in his contract with Tapales. But Tapales can ask for it if he is not getting the money he wants. But technically it is hard to include a rematch clause in their fight since there are mandatories coming up soon. The IBF already has a mandatory waiting, the WBA has an upcoming eliminator fight and the WBC already had a partial eliminator but it could become mandatory depending on the situation.

I am curious about what made Inoue obviously scared of Casimero. Inoue wanted to become undisputed at 118 so he fought all 4 champions 1 by 1. Now he also wants to become an undisputed at 122. Inoue is busy fighting champions for his legacy while Casimero is busy fighting nobodies mate. Cheesy

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September 28, 2023, 09:04:42 AM
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I guess he will have accomplished the win first from Tapales and unify all the belts. Then plan his stay for another exciting matchup
unless Tapales will activate the rematch claw (not sure though if that's possible)
It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.

Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"

All depends on how promoters will take it and how fans will react and push for whoever the next in line after Tapales.
Promoters will be happy to arrange that specific fight as it would certainly sell to the crowd. However, I have a feeling that the camp of Inoue might be a little concerned about their future due to the risk of losing to Casimero. Whether they will admit it or not, it's very obvious that they are not 100% confident that their monster boxer will win.

I don't think Naoya Inoue is interested in putting a rematch clause in his contract with Tapales. But Tapales can ask for it if he is not getting the money he wants. But technically it is hard to include a rematch clause in their fight since there are mandatories coming up soon. The IBF already has a mandatory waiting, the WBA has an upcoming eliminator fight and the WBC already had a partial eliminator but it could become mandatory depending on the situation.

I am curious about what made Inoue obviously scared of Casimero. Inoue wanted to become undisputed at 118 so he fought all 4 champions 1 by 1. Now he also wants to become an undisputed at 122. Inoue is busy fighting champions for his legacy while Casimero is busy fighting nobodies mate. Cheesy

Depending on how both camps will negotiate, I also think that Tapales camp can activate that rematch clause as a defending champion
he can ask for it especially if he's not satisfied with the money.

Since Inoue is seeking to unify all the belts, Tapales can demand things that may let Inoue agree, without Tapales having the desire to unify all the
belts won't be possible.

We can't tell what the future will be for both champs and how they will end this possible fight.
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September 28, 2023, 09:54:55 AM
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Depending on how both camps will negotiate, I also think that Tapales camp can activate that rematch clause as a defending champion
he can ask for it especially if he's not satisfied with the money.
I don't think money is the most important factor in activating the rematch. From the very beginning, they already negotiated, and Tapales already agreed to the terms. So if Tapales loses, I'm not sure if he will have the same share as in the first fight. For me, a rematch would only be activated if he is not convinced with the decision of the judges or if it's a close fight, and he thinks he can beat Inoue.

Since Inoue is seeking to unify all the belts, Tapales can demand things that may let Inoue agree, without Tapales having the desire to unify all the
belts won't be possible.

We can't tell what the future will be for both champs and how they will end this possible fight.

Let's speculate based on the outcome of the first fight. Right now, we should focus on the news of the upcoming fight as it's already confirmed.

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September 28, 2023, 10:11:21 AM
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Also the former champion, although upset by Tapales, I think Akhmadaliev is still good test for Inoue.

But Inoue's first goal will be the other champion in Tapales.

Why would Inoue go down to fight a boxer who has already lost to a fighter he beat, in case he wins against Tapales? It wouldn't excite the fans anymore. I think he should go up against either Nery or Casimero. But as a fan, I would vote for Casimero over Nery, so that finally Inoue won't be bashed by some Filipino fans who think Inoue is afraid of Casimero.

Same with your sentiment, not sure if Inoue will seek for AKhmadaliev since the fighter already lost his belt with Tapales, might be possible to take either Casimero or Nery after he successfully beats Tapales.

Almost there for Casimero if ever Inoue will stay for a while after unifying all the belts in this division
maybe Casimero's fans will try to hype this to bring the attentions of the promoter to make it happen.

The fans are a major help in bringing attention to the promoters. I believe the promoters already know the potential of the fight, how big it is. Maybe Inoue is just trying to weigh things, as he has a lot to lose in case he falls short against Casimero. We continue to speculate for now. Both of them have fights that they need to attend to, but when both fights are concluded, and they both win, I think that's the right time for the fans to keep hyping the match. This way, Inoue's camp would be forced to activate this highly anticipated fight.

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I guess he will have accomplished the win first from Tapales and unify all the belts. Then plan his stay for another exciting matchup
unless Tapales will activate the rematch claw (not sure though if that's possible)
It's likely that there's a rematch clause since both are champions, and I'm pretty sure Inoue would make sure he would have the option of a rematch in case an upset happened. However, I wouldn't think of a possible upset, and I don't think Tapales' camp will activate that rematch if Inoue has a clear dominant win in this fight.

Inoue's camp provided a statement to continue the hype and to check if how fans will engaged especially those who wanted to see the potential
of giving Casimero his chance to be inside the ring against "The Monster"

All depends on how promoters will take it and how fans will react and push for whoever the next in line after Tapales.
Promoters will be happy to arrange that specific fight as it would certainly sell to the crowd. However, I have a feeling that the camp of Inoue might be a little concerned about their future due to the risk of losing to Casimero. Whether they will admit it or not, it's very obvious that they are not 100% confident that their monster boxer will win.

I don't think Naoya Inoue is interested in putting a rematch clause in his contract with Tapales. But Tapales can ask for it if he is not getting the money he wants. But technically it is hard to include a rematch clause in their fight since there are mandatories coming up soon. The IBF already has a mandatory waiting, the WBA has an upcoming eliminator fight and the WBC already had a partial eliminator but it could become mandatory depending on the situation.

I am curious about what made Inoue obviously scared of Casimero. Inoue wanted to become undisputed at 118 so he fought all 4 champions 1 by 1. Now he also wants to become an undisputed at 122. Inoue is busy fighting champions for his legacy while Casimero is busy fighting nobodies mate. Cheesy

Depending on how both camps will negotiate, I also think that Tapales camp can activate that rematch clause as a defending champion
he can ask for it especially if he's not satisfied with the money.

Since Inoue is seeking to unify all the belts, Tapales can demand things that may let Inoue agree, without Tapales having the desire to unify all the
belts won't be possible.

We can't tell what the future will be for both champs and how they will end this possible fight.

Both have aces in their negotiations. Both have equal 2 belts as well so it'll be interesting to see who dictates more on the conditions. Inoue wants to become undisputed so Tapales could demand a good amount of money especially if the fight happens in Japan. On the other hand, if Tapales doesn't agree with the offers from Inoue and completely rejects a unification fight, he will face an IBF mandatory and there's also the coming WBA eliminator which the winner will be ready by the time the IBF mandatory is done. Both the IBF and WBA mandatories are pretty sure tough fights for Tapales and he may even become an underdog while the money is nowhere near the level if he is fighting Inoue.

And if it is true that Inoue stays at 122 for a while, he can also tell Tapales that he will just wait for the winner of his upcoming mandatories since it is most likely that they are all willing to fight Inoue because he is the biggest cash cow in the division plus it'll be for the undisputed championship. Maybe Tapales can also say that he will vacate 1 of his belts so Inoue will be forced to face 2 champions instead of just 1 more fight to become undisputed. Anyway, hope both Inoue and Tapales will settle their differences so we can see another undisputed fight this year.

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And if it is true that Inoue stays at 122 for a while, he can also tell Tapales that he will just wait for the winner of his upcoming mandatories since it is most likely that they are all willing to fight Inoue because he is the biggest cash cow in the division plus it'll be for the undisputed championship. Maybe Tapales can also say that he will vacate 1 of his belts so Inoue will be forced to face 2 champions instead of just 1 more fight to become undisputed. Anyway, hope both Inoue and Tapales will settle their differences so we can see another undisputed fight this year.

My instinct tells me that this fight will push through, it is just a matter of how much they add to their offer to Marlon Tapales. Sean Gibbons is very good at that negotiation so there is no reason why this fight won't come to fruition and in fact Marlon Tapales was already in the US busy preparing for this fight that is most likely to happen this end of the year.
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And if it is true that Inoue stays at 122 for a while, he can also tell Tapales that he will just wait for the winner of his upcoming mandatories since it is most likely that they are all willing to fight Inoue because he is the biggest cash cow in the division plus it'll be for the undisputed championship. Maybe Tapales can also say that he will vacate 1 of his belts so Inoue will be forced to face 2 champions instead of just 1 more fight to become undisputed. Anyway, hope both Inoue and Tapales will settle their differences so we can see another undisputed fight this year.

My instinct tells me that this fight will push through, it is just a matter of how much they add to their offer to Marlon Tapales. Sean Gibbons is very good at that negotiation so there is no reason why this fight won't come to fruition and in fact Marlon Tapales was already in the US busy preparing for this fight that is most likely to happen this end of the year.

Yeah, we will have to just trust Sean Gibbons on the negotiation table, as much as we hated him because of some failed fight like when they still handle Casimero back then. But that was history already and they have parted ways.

But I do agree that Tapales has something to offer as well, he had 2 belts and Inoue needed it to become a unified champion. If they low ball Tapales and then the fight is not going to happen, then it will be a waiting game for Inoue. Maybe Tapales will go and give Akhmadaliev or choose a different path. Inoue's camp should be the A-side but they should respect Marlon as well and give him at least a decent paycheck for being a champion.
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