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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 30, 2017, 10:21:28 PM
I'm thinking low level APIs (allowing users to integrate existing software and experiment with Dash before it goes completely live) & sentinel superblocks ?
But i could be completely off here.


Oh, you mean like what Maidsafe is doing?   Check out the 3rd paragraph where they talk about being able to test applications with a simulated network.

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-january-26-2017/12300
442  Economy / Service Announcements / CoinChat.Club Slack | Top Coins | News Feeds | Lively Chat Environment on: January 30, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
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443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Wow trolling is very active lately. Monero team worried Dash is poised for a nice bull run I think.

But seriously why compare Dash to Madoff? You might as well compare Dash to the number of cows in Switzerland for all the relevance that has. The growth of Dash looks nothing like that. At all. Btw.
 

Because, you can't base an investment solely on the fact that it has performed well in the past.  You need to base it on something tangible that you expect to happen in the future that will help your investment grow.

Well thats true I guess. As for myself I'm basing it on whats Dash has done in the past, (incentivised nodes, two tier network, instant send, private send...) and what its doing now (growing the network, financing multiple projects via the budget system, maintaining and growing value, market cap etc), and the potential I see and the vision of Dash Evolution, bringing a user experience to the masses. And so on.

The thing is the trolls here know all this, and fear it, or they wouldnt be here. Do you really think  they are here because they want to help us avoid a scam?

Don't take my comment out of context.  It was related to the comment above it, which was:

^ Yep. As an investor they have made me good money to this point so there is no reason to stop trusting them now.  Cool

My comment was only related to the blind faith attitude is dangerous.
Hi Solar... I do agree to some of the concerns   It's important that those of us that wish to question things and ask for accountability should remain doing so.

 For example,  I've been advocating for a budget performance matrix for all funded projects.  I've been willing to donate handsomely for this kind of thing where everyone is being held accountable via a standalone website.

 There are literally 10s of thousands of dollars being dished out... And no accountability.  I purposed before the holidays that  we set up an independent site that that strictly evaluates funding proposals performance as well as a complete detailed information on all aspects of the individual budgets,  who they are,  how much was the proposal worth in a couple of currencies what were the deliverables etc etc.  Then finally a rating of how well the budget proposal did at fullfilling it's duties... This could even be voted on.  

  This is how we can help everyone in community to remain confident that funds parties are being given, are held accountable by the whole community.
Thanks.   You you have the right idea.  The simplest solution is to downvote every proposal that doesn't give acceptable updates.  That could even be forced by a vote reset every month.
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 07:09:30 PM
For any newbies, here is some history:
Then accused of trying to take over Dash by submitting a proposal to get technology into vendors called vendor-experience.  Instantx anyone?

You submitted a proposal for 729 Dash for a 99 month duration. Numerous voters told you they would change their votes if you decreased the duration. We told you that the price of Dash was going to rise a great deal over those 99 months, and that we didn't want to effectively vote you an unlimited budget (72,171 DASH over the course of 99 months). At today's valuation, that would be $1.1 million. You have done some great things for the project, but most people were not willing to allocate that much money to your project.


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  • Called a scammer for supporting Dash and community with a slack and then stopping it when the proposal was defunded.

Let's not try to change the facts...the proposal got defunded AFTER you said that it would no longer be a Dash Slack. You had already received two payments from the Network, which you refused to refund. You then tried to sell the Slack (that the Network paid for) back to the Core Team. "Scammer" is such a loaded word--if you have another word for somebody who took possession of something that somebody else paid for, then feel free to use it instead.

I want to be clear: you've done some great things for Dash. For a long time, I considered you a member of the "loyal opposition." When you decided to steal the Network's property, that's when I began considering you a scammer and a troll. Others may see things differently, and that's fine. Most of the time I have you on ignore, but I will from time to time pop up and remind any new community members of your past actions, just so that they have all the information available and can make up their own minds about you.

Cheers!



First point.  The budget is a renewable monthly voted in budget.  It doesn't matter if the proposal says 99 months or 2 months, it can be voted out at any time.  I am not upset that the budget was declined.  (Maybe a little frustrated that GrandMasterDash posted on every 3rd post that the time length was too long and moderators did nothing.  Every 3rd post.  Really?  LOL.)  The concern is that core members called it a plan to overtake Dash.  Severe language in private messages, rants on slack calling me out, upset posts on the forum from Kot, Andy, etc.   Not at all a normal reaction to a simple budget proposal.

At the time, this would have created new displays for shows, new products to help merchants use Dash, and we would have got to a terminal device that merchants could use.   At least Kodaxx, snogcell, and chaeplin have started something with POS.   It isn't enough, the core should be focused on retail and POS adoption instead of ignoring it and hoping the community will try something.

2nd point.  Slack was owned privately and had 100s of members before it took any Dash funds.  Funds were used for promotion and moderators time.  All expenses and funds were posted on dashtalk with updates.  This is the typical response for any community member trying to do something.  They get critiqued to death and called scammers.  A core member proposal can go a year without anything useful to show for it, end up with a failed project, and hardly get slapped on the wrist.  At the same time anyone pointing out how bad the project is after it becomes obvious gets called a concern troll without any critical discussion about the project.

Since this was now brought up by Tungfa, Stealth, and yourself I'll post an analogy.
Care rental place owns car.   (private owners owned slack)
You pay for rental, pick up car.  You pay for gas.  (slack got some rewards from the budget for promotions, it wasn't SOLD to the network)
You stop paying for rental.  (slack proposal stopped getting rewards)
Do you expect to own the car because you paid a little bit of the cost of ownership?  (so the slack now is owned by the community?)
No, you return the car.
Do you call the car rental place a scammer for not giving you the car?
No, you return the car and end the transaction.

And I did offer the slack to the core guys as an open bid.  They declined to respond.  A few days after my request 2 new slacks opened up.  Not rocket science what happened.
445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 06:37:27 PM
snip
I have been attacked by the Non-Coding Dash guys for a while now.  I have put up with it because I believed in Dash.

For any newbies, here is some history:
  • First I was told you can't build an instantx soda machine and you will just take the money.
i voted for it and never said that, who said you can't build it and will just take the money? we have plenty of disinfo trolls that say dumb stuff like that all the time just to cause trouble.

  • Then it was you are a scammer because you built the soda machine (with camo and moo of course) but are not giving profits(never expected to be used after the show anyway) back to the community.
i never said (scammer) that but i don't deny someone may have. it was a legit question to ask where the profits and machine that the community paid for would go. i thought camo was holding it hostage for a while right? he is a total hothead but a smart guy. unfortunately he does not play well with others, at all.

  • Then accused of trying to take over Dash by submitting a proposal to get technology into vendors called vendor-experience.  Instantx anyone?
lol, i never saw anyone accuse you of trying to take over dash, but maybe they did idk. not me. i think the vender ex was too soon and just not needed at the time, was a bit expensive too if i remember correctly. we have funded a few similar vendor related things and they have pretty much gone unused. it's just too soon chicken before the egg thing. i think camo and maybe you think if we would have just do that and other stuff he wanted we would be btc market cap or 2nd place right now, i disagree. user experience first (evo) then we will be ready for the vendor ex in 2018.

  • I was harassed several times in private messages flaming me with inappropriate language (from a core member still on the team).
that is not cool if it went down the way you say. sorry.

  • Called a troll almost non-stop for any critical thinking.
not sure about non-stop but it happens. if it was after the old slack meltdown that would make sense. there was some very nasty stuff said about evan by itw and buster was being well...buster.

  • Called a scammer for supporting Dash and community with a slack and then stopping it when the proposal was defunded.
imo that's when everything started to go downhill for you. you were attacked somewhat unfairly imo but some of it was your fault too. you should have dumped itw and maybe buster and you probably not have got defunded.remaining silent on itw vicious and relentless everyday all day personal attacks is what got slack defunded.

  • Now I am labeled a concern troll and one of the 5 guys, even though I have done more with InstantX than anyone else in Dash, just look at my signature.
you have brought up some good points but you have started moving into concern troll territory recently imo.


There is definitely something wrong with this community.   Maybe I should file a grievance with that new HR person that is coming soon.
i think after the slack was defunded you really started to become very bitter and that is unfortunate. dash is far from perfect but i trust the team and was pleased with the long overdue project reports from minotaur. the lack of communication issues caused a lot of unnecessary problems that really got out of hand on the old slack. there is a lot of blame to go around and still communication issues that need attention but i think everything is moving in the right direction.

i just pointed out a mistake you made on slack because you are just trying to find fault with dash. you admitted the mistake but i think you will make more if you don't just step away for a while and take a break.
replying to this post here will probably just make things worse. if you are still invested/holding dash you may want to reply here, if not it would be best to pm me or respond on slack if you feel you must. i probably will not respond here on btctalk though as we are getting off topic and into personal stuff. if you are not holding dash anymore my advice would be to just let it go and move on to something you feel positive about, negativity is not good for you health.

Solar, I voted for you as well and in debt to your work you did for the dash vending machine.

I also think you need to have perspective that in this sort of scene there are people who will say anything and everything to get a reaction out of you. But ultimately I agree with mastermind in that you were treated that way because you hung out with the wrong crowd. If you believe in dash, ignore the crap that goes on and stay focused on making changes for the better. Unfortunately the people you hung out with were more interested in a witch hunt attacking people and causing unnecessary drama. Negativity breeds negativity.


I appreciate the comments and am not offended by non paid community members asking questions or posting assumptions.  This is a natural process to be skeptical when you don't know someone.

Judging a user because they hung out with the wrong crowd?   Yeah, that is ridiculous.  The non coding core team is so against critical thinking that they intentionally call any negative comments trolling.  Kot, Daniel, and mainly Coingun were in the dashchat slack intentionally redirecting anything critical.  The discussions seemed like a witch hunt mainly because there were hardly ever any direct answers. 

Critical thinking leads to improvements and innovation.   Blind faith leads to waste, corruption, and laziness.
446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
Wow trolling is very active lately. Monero team worried Dash is poised for a nice bull run I think.

But seriously why compare Dash to Madoff? You might as well compare Dash to the number of cows in Switzerland for all the relevance that has. The growth of Dash looks nothing like that. At all. Btw.
 

Because, you can't base an investment solely on the fact that it has performed well in the past.  You need to base it on something tangible that you expect to happen in the future that will help your investment grow.

I´m very sorry Solarminer, you probably don´t care at all but I´m sad to group you with monero trolls.

/ignore
Did I ever say anything about Monero this year?  No.  Your random grouping strategy is odd, but not of my concern.

If you are grouping me in with the critical thinkers and unbiased crypto nerds that say negative things once in a while.  Sure, that makes sense.  Feel free to put me on ignore so you can maintain your exceptionally high standard of Dash Positiveness.
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 08:50:58 AM
Wow trolling is very active lately. Monero team worried Dash is poised for a nice bull run I think.

But seriously why compare Dash to Madoff? You might as well compare Dash to the number of cows in Switzerland for all the relevance that has. The growth of Dash looks nothing like that. At all. Btw.
 

Because, you can't base an investment solely on the fact that it has performed well in the past.  You need to base it on something tangible that you expect to happen in the future that will help your investment grow.

Well thats true I guess. As for myself I'm basing it on whats Dash has done in the past, (incentivised nodes, two tier network, instant send, private send...) and what its doing now (growing the network, financing multiple projects via the budget system, maintaining and growing value, market cap etc), and the potential I see and the vision of Dash Evolution, bringing a user experience to the masses. And so on.

The thing is the trolls here know all this, and fear it, or they wouldnt be here. Do you really think  they are here because they want to help us avoid a scam?

Don't take my comment out of context.  It was related to the comment above it, which was:

^ Yep. As an investor they have made me good money to this point so there is no reason to stop trusting them now.  Cool

My comment was only related to the blind faith attitude is dangerous.
448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 08:38:58 AM
Wow trolling is very active lately. Monero team worried Dash is poised for a nice bull run I think.

But seriously why compare Dash to Madoff? You might as well compare Dash to the number of cows in Switzerland for all the relevance that has. The growth of Dash looks nothing like that. At all. Btw.
 

Because, you can't base an investment solely on the fact that it has performed well in the past.  You need to base it on something tangible that you expect to happen in the future that will help your investment grow.
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 07:33:31 AM
Just look at how the Evan's Gate cultists are now ganging up on Solarminer, who had the temerity to push back against the groupthink and question the Received Duffontological Wisdom.
I have been attacked by the Non-Coding Dash guys for a while now.  I have put up with it because I believed in Dash.   But now there is too much corruption and mistakes being made.  Maybe it will have a shakeup or implode and the right changes will get made. 

For any newbies, here is some history:
  • First I was told you can't build an instantx soda machine and you will just take the money.
  • Then it was you are a scammer because you built the soda machine (with camo and moo of course) but are not giving profits(never expected to be used after the show anyway) back to the community.
  • Then accused of trying to take over Dash by submitting a proposal to get technology into vendors called vendor-experience.  Instantx anyone?
  • I was harassed several times in private messages flaming me with inappropriate language (from a core member still on the team).
  • Called a troll almost non-stop for any critical thinking.
  • Called a scammer for supporting Dash and community with a slack and then stopping it when the proposal was defunded.
  • Now I am labeled a concern troll and one of the 5 guys, even though I have done more with InstantX than anyone else in Dash, just look at my signature.

There is definitely something wrong with this community.   Maybe I should file a grievance with that new HR person that is coming soon.
450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 02:16:54 AM
^ Yep. As an investor they have made me good money to this point so there is no reason to stop trusting them now.  Cool
Said every Bernie Madoff investor.  Smiley
451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 02:13:03 AM
Proposal: Business Development - Major Exchange

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-major-exchange.12881/

This proposal funds the integration of Dash into a major exchange with fiat trading.

Dash Instant Send at a major exchange.....damn this is going to be big!
I don't see InstantX in the proposal.  Don't assume.  Read them carefully.  

Do you remember the proposal for Lamassu compatible software on a network of one machine.... but the proposal looked like it was actually with lamassu on their network.

3. This proposal also ensures that as part of the review and integration process, the exchange technical staff will evaluate Dash’s InstantSend technology and work with the Dash team to test it. Pending a successful evaluation, InstantSend will be enabled for both incoming and outgoing Dash deposits and withdrawals. There are no guarantees at this stage, but there is a firm commitment to study the solution and potentially include it after the exchange becomes more familiar, and the exchange sees real value in the InstantSend technology to both provide a better user experience and potentially drive arbitrage volumes. Barring any security risk findings, they intend to enable InstantSend functionality and work with us if any concerns arise.
Still don't see InstantX.   Are you referring to the term supposedly used in the 12.1 wallet that hasn't been release yet?   Oh, Ok....LOL. 

Well, at least the attempt to use it was put in the proposal.
452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 12:27:52 AM
Proposal: Business Development - Major Exchange

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-major-exchange.12881/

This proposal funds the integration of Dash into a major exchange with fiat trading.

Dash Instant Send at a major exchange.....damn this is going to be big!
I don't see InstantX in the proposal.  Don't assume.  Read them carefully. 

Do you remember the proposal for Lamassu compatible software on a network of one machine.... but the proposal looked like it was actually with lamassu on their network.
453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 12:08:24 AM
Proposal: Business Development - Major Exchange

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-major-exchange.12881/

This proposal funds the integration of Dash into a major exchange with fiat trading.
Oooh.  Will we finally get the result of the Fiat Gateways project?   This is a must vote yes to see.  You got this far....better double down.
454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 27, 2017, 12:03:11 AM
This one i dedicate to our trolls that have been with us through hardship and prosperity :



ETA : 100 days
Massive crash?
Nah, but I think the timing is off.  Fixed that.
455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 26, 2017, 11:59:28 PM
I'm surprised anyone has taken the vote to increase Dash blocksize literally the real motivation was very obvious.

Don't be surprised, trolls know very well that this particular vote was not to be taken literally. They just play their moronic and/or paid game over and over.

There are two non-exclusive possibilities here.

1. Dash's so-called "distributed governance" is just a system for conducting unenforceable and therefore meaningless symbolic straw polls (along with unaccountable grants of free money)

2. Evan lacks the technical chops to implement a maximum 2mb block size

When Evan put up that proposal, it's ONLY purpose was to show how fast Dash can get consensus. 

We won't need extra space for at least another 3 years

Gee, I wonder how silly old SolarMiner got the mistaken impression that the 2mb vote was, you know, more than just a bullshit jacking off exercise in self-congratulation?

Can anyone provide evidence from the time of the vote that it was widely understood to be a mere resolution in support of a 2mb vaporware upgrade?

Solving the problems inherent to a 2mb max blocksize is much harder than simply voicing some nebulous intention for undertaking such an endeavor.

And yet, you consider 2mb 'as good as done' with no substance to back up the symbolism.

I know you aren't really knowledgeable about what happens in Bitcoin world, but please be aware that project has run into big problems (IE, a chain fork) due to nodes signaling support for upgrades they weren't actually ready for.

As an aside, it's pretty funny even Dash's 2nd most thoroughly brainwashed cult victim (right behind toknormal) doesn't believe Dash will actually be used for "at least another 3 years."

In 3 years, the crypto universe will be radically different, and if Dash doesn't start finding uses in the real world very soon it will be an almost forgotten footnote in history.
Icebreaker is actually making some good arguments.   Well said.

So I understand that increasing the blocksize is more than one line of code....which I did find by the way.  Hee hee.  But the goal of that vote should have been to direct resources to make it happen.  There should have been a timeline and an idea for testing and implementation.   Maybe initially it was a 1.1MB block and adding .1MB every 3 months.   Whatever made sense to safely implement the change.  Ignoring the proposal now just shows how ineffective the entire Dash Decision Engine really is.

I am not faulting Moo or Udjin, they are completely capable of making the change in a reasonable way.  And maybe the answer is not to make the change.  Which right now is probably a good decision. 

The fault is in the marketing of the change like it was actually going to happen.  I bet if the change was actually made after that vote, Dash would have gained a lot of support.

BTW, Maidsafe and Ardor coming up will be using ways to only keep the latest transactions.  The Blockchain and Blocksize the way we think of it now will be changing.
456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 26, 2017, 07:41:22 AM

Solar, I don't mind you having an opinion, but I do take issue when you post assumptions as fact.

If blocks do get full, InstantX transactions will start to be unlocked.

100% completely and utterly false. IX locks are mempool entries same as transactions.  They don't get flushed until the transaction gets written into a block, regardless of how many blocks that takes.

And, your disappointment is simply impatience.  The very last sentence of the proposal states:

If approved, a proper development, testing and deployment process would start before it reaches production. Let’s give Dash room to grow.

The process is already happening, there's just no need to implement it anytime soon.


Hey Moo.   There is more too it than just being impatient.  I think most people thought that proposal would happen quickly, not waiting 2 years for Evolution.  And if this was the only issue with Dash, it would be a pretty minor issue.

This is from the initial release post here:  https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/v0-11-1-instantx-release.3923/
Transaction locks are lost when restarting the client and only last for an hour
So if there are enough transactions that have fees higher than the InstantX fee, and blocks are kept full for an hour, the lock will be released and transaction unlocked.
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 26, 2017, 06:46:20 AM
DASH governance system

Dash's governance is way way way more fair and decentralized than BTC, which is controlled by only a handful of centralized miners in china.
Nope.  Dash does not have a governance system.   Governance implies that you can force a change.   The only thing the budget system can do is pay out a project that is submitted.

Proof:   Budget passed to increase block size to 2MB.   Result is still 1MB blocksize.  Of course, this proposal is used over an over to say Dash can increase the blocksize in 24 hours....um.   right....1 year and still no change.

The only ones that can control changes are those with access to github.  And even then, the code needs to be created and tested before it can be approved.

Charlie was spot on with the "Marketing over Tech".

To get you started on that blocksize increase, here is a start.
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/src/primitives/block.h
/** The maximum allowed size for a serialized block, in bytes (network rule) */
static const unsigned int MAX_BLOCK_SIZE = 1000000;
change to
static const unsigned int MAX_BLOCK_SIZE = 2000000;

You do realize that Dash currently has 4 times the block capacity of Bitcoin, right?  And a fraction of the need!  I don't know what happened to you Solar, but if you really can only troll now, it might be healthier for you to turn and walk away completely and dig into another project.  I'm sorry to see you go, but seeing you act like this is just sad.

So my reply might have seemed harsh, but I am truly disappointed with Dash.  The proposal last year was a great idea.   Ideas are easy, implementing them takes work.   All the Dash marketing about increasing blocksize or made the decision to, is now false advertising.  And since I trusted developers to follow through, I have also been part of the problem by spreading false information.

Dash is different than Bitcoin.  If blocks do get full, InstantX transactions will start to be unlocked.  This is huge problem for such a key feature.   And the attitude of no need to worry about it we are fine, is poor.  Dash should be moving to variable blocks.   Vcash had that figured out last year.  Dash looks more and more like they are promising features just to get investors regardless if they will actually finish them.
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 26, 2017, 04:30:40 AM
DASH governance system

Dash's governance is way way way more fair and decentralized than BTC, which is controlled by only a handful of centralized miners in china.


snip...Budget passed to increase block size to 2MB.   Result is still 1MB blocksize.  Of course, this proposal is used over and over to say Dash can increase the blocksize in 24 hours....um.   right....1 year and still no change.

We don't need 2MB blocks right now and it would not be wise to implement that change until we do. When it is time to do so it will be done. Do you doubt that?

"To implement 2mb blocks and prepare for Evolution, we must take care of some security concerns as well. There is a concern even with 1MB blocks that an attacker could add a transaction that takes 30 seconds to process, with 2MB blocks it’s actually possible to add a 10 minute script to process....If approved, a proper development, testing and deployment process would start before it reaches production."
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/2mb-blocksize


Yeah, totally reasonable to delay a year before working on any of the code for a blocksize increase.  At this rate it is looking like Bitcoin will beat Dash on a blocksize/segwit update.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 26, 2017, 02:23:54 AM
DASH governance system

Dash's governance is way way way more fair and decentralized than BTC, which is controlled by only a handful of centralized miners in china.
Nope.  Dash does not have a governance system.   Governance implies that you can force a change.   The only thing the budget system can do is pay out a project that is submitted.

Proof:   Budget passed to increase block size to 2MB.   Result is still 1MB blocksize.  Of course, this proposal is used over an over to say Dash can increase the blocksize in 24 hours....um.   right....1 year and still no change.

The only ones that can control changes are those with access to github.  And even then, the code needs to be created and tested before it can be approved.

Charlie was spot on with the "Marketing over Tech".

To get you started on that blocksize increase, here is a start.
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/src/primitives/block.h
/** The maximum allowed size for a serialized block, in bytes (network rule) */
static const unsigned int MAX_BLOCK_SIZE = 1000000;
change to
static const unsigned int MAX_BLOCK_SIZE = 2000000;
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: January 25, 2017, 07:45:29 AM

man man - solar now officially siding with the trolls  Grin
after he tried to scam us and sell that SLACK channel for hard cash (nobody took it obviously - why would anybody pay)
he seems officially bud hurt out there
dont u cry now - remember u brought this on yourself   Cry

This just shows how incompetent the marketing team is.  We offered the core team the option to bid(with no minimum) on the slack that we built over 1000 users with 15,000 messages a week.   What did they bid?   No response.  Not even a we want it, but we don't want to pay.  Genius move.
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