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441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Stress and Happiness on: October 14, 2019, 01:05:07 PM

If we trust Bitcoin why need to stress yourself!?and for 10 years of existence?we have already seen all the sides and we must understand the routine
People's "trust" in Bitcoin is based on the price and therefore unreliable. If you also take into consideration that people are unreliable themselves when they have money to lose, it's a deadly combination.

Overall, I think that people are never really satisfied.... if they lose they are obviously upset and stressed, but when they profit they are upset too because they blame themselves for not having invested more.

The main problem is that a lot people who entered into crypto haven't had any prior investing/trading experience, so they mess around and lose. Most will lose and leave while the minority profits and continues to stay.
442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Market Update: BTC continues to drop lower, where next? on: October 14, 2019, 11:29:40 AM
Still think there's more downside, though I've described my conditions for when I'll consider flipping bullish in my latest post here:
We think similar. In all honesty, I really hope that we don't have to go through this, but looking at the chart and the overall bearish trend confirmation, it makes me believe that we have one big capitulation dump to go through.

People are still too bullish and that concerns me---the sentiment whenever we bottom always has been very toxic where people were expecting much lower lows, and that's something we're missing here.

Remember the sentiment when we hit $31xx? People were speculating about $2k or even sub $1k prices. That's when you know bags are empty and dumb money is planning to buy the dip that they expect will happen, but turns out to not happen.
443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin's future prospects on: October 14, 2019, 10:59:21 AM
all these drop in price are probably some of these whales leaving the market, and it is better they leave the market so that we can have a stable and steady growth of bitcoin even if it is slow.
Whales aren't leaving the market at all, why would they? It's too profitable for them to stick around. Most of the increases and decreases are the result of long or short squeezes on platforms such as Bitfinex and BitMEX.

In Bitcoin we never really had stable growth----pumps and dumps is all we know here. The charts are there for you to look into.... the few months of sideways 'stable' price action are nothing in the grand scheme of things.
444  Economy / Economics / Re: The U.S. Government Tried To Shut Down Bitcoin on: October 14, 2019, 08:13:08 AM
the freedom that currently exists cannot be taken away by anything.
That freedom can be severely limited though, especially when governments start to crack down on fiat onramps---if there are no legal fiat onramps, most of the retail and especially institutional capital will not enter.

Instead of pointing out how it would help Bitcoin become more peer to peer because transactions will move underground, think for a second account the ecosystem, the network, development, and so on.

We should be happy that most stable countries haven't gone that far yet, and lets hope they won't ever have to, because I rather see Bitcoin and everything around it grow at current pace in a healthy manner. Much better.
445  Economy / Economics / Re: BEEN IN THIS GAME FOR 6 YEARS on: October 14, 2019, 07:33:35 AM
Admittedly, I got here for financial reasons and at that time many programs were already demanding that users use Bitcoin.
I think that it's safe to say that the far majority of the people here entered into crypto because of the volatility and the money that can be made. Nothing wrong with that. It gives crypto something valuable to attract adoption with.

If there were no bull runs, there wouldn't be as many people here today. I found out about Bitcoin after 2013s bull run and had the luck that I didn't jump in right away, but waited until the price reached below $500 to start buying.

Had I known that Bitcoin will eventually reach the level that it is now, maybe I could have bought more Bitcoin but that is already in the past.
lmao.... had all people know that this would happen, there wouldn't be a market anymore---this market today barely handles a whale exiting a position, so imagine how hard it must have been back then with 10000 times less liquidity.
446  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Reasons why I am buying Bitcoin!! on: October 13, 2019, 05:23:47 PM
And, as the actual price seems affordable for so many investors, it is a good time to buy BTC.
It's difficult to consider current prices affordable with how we are trending down. Sure, it's more affordable than the price was over $10k, but what if we go to $6k in the coming months? Current "affordable" price will look expensive.

You need a plan before buying Bitcoin, otherwise you will find yourself selling in panic whenever the price starts tanking. I always found dollar cost averaging to be one of the most noob friendly ways of investing in pretty much any asset class.

Historically speaking, dollar cost averaging has always been a profitable practice if you are building up a long term position. I have done the same throughout the years and it worked out extremely well.
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Binance DEX launched XRP-backed digital token on: October 13, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
Some of these so called XRP army may also prefer trading on DEXs .
I doubt it. It's just one marketing-circus-show where both Ripple and Binance have agreed to a partnership behind the scenes. Nothing wrong with that of course, but I'm quite sure that there won't be much organic volume at all.

All the XRP army cares about is to see institutions adopt it and create massive pools of liquidity for instant settlement of transactions. Time will tell whether or not that will happen, but this partnership is more beneficial to Binance.
448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum Price Action in relation to Bitcoin on: October 13, 2019, 01:59:01 PM
Only if bitcoin decreases too much or alts rise too much when people's interest will transfer towards alts again.
Bitcoin has decreased quite a bit, but it took altcoins down with it, and that while people were strongly of believe that the moment Bitcoin's momentum would weaken, altcoins would boom hard but thus far they haven't.

I haven't seen much of an indication that altcoins are going to explode any time soon---the dumb fomo retail money is what made it pop hard and they are still not willing to come back because they are licking their wounds.

I expect Bitcoin to fall deep under the $8k mark in the coming weeks, which I believe will hurt altcoins too. I would rather wait for an altcoin season as confirmation than to jump in right now and lose more value.
449  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Changelly & FixedFloat safe? on: October 13, 2019, 01:11:09 PM
I've seen them pay more on Bitcoin fee than they charge, so I'm not sure how sustainable this business model for small transactions is in the long term.
They have been running for over 2 years so there must be enough money to be made to still offer this service. I'm sure that the mid to large transactions are easily paying up for what they lose out on with the smaller transactions.

I know a local service that only charges a network fee---the way their business model works is that they profit from price differences on various exchanges, and they pass that benefit to their users for the best value. It might be that coinplaza works similarly.
450  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How much do you think Bitcoin.com is worth, what price would Roger sell? on: October 13, 2019, 12:24:54 PM
hundred million could be a fair valuation but a billion  Shocked.
One is better off using $100 million or whatever greater amount to buy Bitcoin. Buying Bitcoin offers much more potential growth and is extremely liquid, while such domain only appeals to a small number of people.

We're already at a point where a crypto business isn't going to 10x in value, and even if so, that doesn't make the domain itself become worth 10x more. Nothing thus far has beaten the percentage gains of Bitcoin and I doubt that will ever change.
451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin coins are losing popularity? on: October 13, 2019, 08:00:48 AM
They lose their profits because their interest on bitcoin is not enough to stick with it in the long run, the only thing they know is if falls down, it will just keep on falling.
I don't think it's all that bad honestly speaking. I remember a lot of people who were making fun of the panic sellers around $17k, then $15k, then $10k and so on---would they have held they would be slaughtered all the way to $3k.

Those who told people to hodl and actually did so suffered a lot last year. People can say they don't care about a 85% drop, but that's nonsense.... if you could have avoided sitting out an 85% drop you would do it in an instant.

In a nutshell: panic sellers were the winners of 2018 while hodlers were the losers.
452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Community With No Libra, Bakkt, ETFs and Institutions on: October 13, 2019, 07:25:40 AM
When it comes to worrying whenever people will choose centralized over decentralized, the actions needed is let them know the difference of these two so they will decide what best fits the world.
While knowing the difference between centralized and decentralized networks, it still doesn't make decentralized networks any more useful because in most cases you don't need censorship resistant payments.

People are too paranoid here---who's going to block your local grocery shopping payments? I have never had any of my local payments blocked. I value convenience, which is something I enjoy with fiat, not with any crypto.

Crypto is overhyped as means of payment. It's a store of value and then it pretty much stops. The legacy banking system improves too---I already enjoy free and instant bank to bank trasfers 24/7/365. Business hours are something of the past
453  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-10-11] Bitcoin Fails at Key Price Hurdle, Risks Return to $8,000 on: October 13, 2019, 01:44:32 AM
I guess there are no stream of big investors in the market now, let's just hold out until the halving and then we'll definetly see movement then.
Big investors aren't really that different from the smaller fishes in the sense that they don't touch Bitcoin when it doesn't go up, unless they are trying to accumulate, but they have done that well below current prices already.

Following the technicals, there is not much reason to be bullish, more to be bearish---it was the exact opposite back in April this year when the market broke yearly high after yearly high.

People somehow haven't accepted the bearish sentiment yet, which I think they will when they see the price plummets to lower lows. $6k isn't all that far fetched.... unpopular opinion, but what non bullish opinion isn't unpopular on this forum?
454  Economy / Economics / Re: The U.S. Government Tried To Shut Down Bitcoin on: October 13, 2019, 12:29:23 AM
It's obviously their dream to take BTC and the entire crypto market down. Otherwise, people will not only become richer as the recession gets closer but they'll also get the taste of economical freedom. 
I agree with the point that governments don't want people to enjoy economical freedom, but that's not why they are trying to "shut down" crypto. I even doubt that they have such intentions to begin with.

Nearly the whole crypto market disregards the sole reason of why it exists, so what are governments really afraid of? People still trust centralized parties---parties governments can easily exercise control over. They like it more than they don't.

As for people getting rich during a recession, I really really doubt that---recessions generally take down any asset with it, where the speculative assets are being hit the hardest. Bitcoin is a speculative asset too.
455  Economy / Economics / Re: $6 Billion United Nations Agency Launches Bitcoin, Ethereum Crypto Fund on: October 12, 2019, 11:55:39 PM
What am I missing here? We need something that would draw more people to bitcoin, not some institution that would draw people to donate their bitcoins to these institutions and projects and then having those coins almost immediately converted to Fiat again.  Roll Eyes
As long as there is risk exposure to volatility, which is a legitimate concern for any party transacting in Bitcoin (directly or indirectly), there will be a centralized service used to hedge that volatility risk.

From a business/charity perspective it's more than understandable because all they are interested in is cold hard fiat money. Bitcoin is just an additional tool providing income they otherwise wouldn't have.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for Bitcoiners, but that's just how things are. I'm sure that it will improve in the future where coins will be held longer or actually spent instead of directly dumped for fiat.
456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Telegram (TON) project has been halted by SEC on: October 12, 2019, 07:44:51 PM
I find it strange that projects on this level don't want to consult SEC before the sale, one would think that it would be better then getting halted/sued later.
Because they know that they don't stand a single chance for the simple reason that they are launching a security. Or they thought to have found a grey area to exploit and for that reason not need the approval of the SEC.

The SEC for a long time wasn't really that active, but that has definitely changed---the freedom security issuers had is no longer there and a lot projects will be held responsible for that. No way the SEC will let you get away with it.

I'm sure there is bias towards the bigger projects, because on paper it doesn't make economical sense to chase after few million dollar projects when there are a lot projects in the +$50 million category.
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: BW.com - serious warning!! on: October 12, 2019, 05:07:31 PM
It's better to always do keen research first before trying out new exchange sites, don't trust your hard-earned money to some random exchange sites.
People have no clue about what doing research actually is---most of people's "research" consists of looking at what exchanges generate a lot of volume on sites such as Coinmarketcap.

The general logic is that the more volume an exchange generates, the more people are trading there. That used to be the case with high volume exchanges, but in the last year or so high volume is a worthless metric.

Things are horribly wrong with this space when an exchange as Coinbase is ranked 50th.... the faith of people in sites such as Coinmarketcap hinders them in making a rational decision.

People are far gone when they trust on third party research....
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best DEX out there? What do you guys think? on: October 12, 2019, 04:37:08 PM
There is only one DEX i am using now and that is BINANCE DEX, i never had an issue on that exchange and the speed rate is very accurate and fast.
It's a good alternative as long as Binance doesn't withdraw its support and market makers. I really wonder what would be left of it would that happen, because all other non supported DEXs lack liquidity and use.

Throughout the last years not much has changed at all when it comes to DEXs gaining popularity---Binance thus far has been the most successful one because of how CZ did the marketing for it and the financial support he provides.
459  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BITSTAMP frozen my 10 btc and asking years worth of signed address transactions on: October 12, 2019, 01:36:10 PM
No one can be 100% trustworthy. I have seen vendors in Localbitcoins selling their old accounts to scammers and the latter using them to con unsuspecting users.
Bingo! I see that happen even here on non crypto marketplace sites. The first sign of trust (people think like that) is to avoid new accounts and only deal with older accounts---resulting in scammer offering big money for these older accounts.

People with older accounts who don't often list anything for sale will likely not reject an offer of a few hundred bucks for their account, especially since they can simply create a new one.

It provides scammers easy access to old accounts. By the time people no longer connect trustworthiness to old accounts, scammers will find other routes to gain people's trust and scam them. They are always a step ahead.
460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Get into the $8600 Zone? on: October 12, 2019, 01:05:55 PM
When we hit the $8800 yesterday the rejection was pretty dramatic and very bearish. The outlook is not looking good. I am expecting a run to the $8500 area and from there the bears will appear and try and short it down to the $8000 area again.
We're hovering just over $8.3k now and I expect further declines over the next couple of days. If people are still bullish with Bitcoin behaving like this, they will be woken up in the most brutal way when we dump to $7k.

Improving fundamentals that bulls tend to point at don't help either---the market has to bottom out, and when the trend has turned bearish, it usually comes with a 50-60% correction from the top at the very least, so buckle up.

I was expecting at least $9000 area to get tested however looks like the whales front-ran many traders who were either going to use $9000 to get out at break-even or use it to enter a short.
Close enough is close enough. I'm sure that even if we hit $9k the reaction would be very similar---wicks don't mean anything as long as we don't see an actual close above important moving averages or resistance levels.
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