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4461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is where I stop believing Obama is possibly a rational, intelligent man. on: June 23, 2011, 09:21:20 PM
This seems like a good place to leave this...

http://falkenblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/humans-born-capitalists.html
4462  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to kick start a private bitcoin network? on: June 23, 2011, 09:03:16 PM
If you intend to do this, please change the genesis block and remove the benchmarking code.  Change the default port number, also.
4463  Economy / Economics / Re: Deflation and Bitcoin, the last word on this forum on: June 23, 2011, 04:13:20 PM
It occurs to me that the need to re-scale the min transaction fee is an example of "menu costs".

This is one of the issues with having a deflating (or inflating) currency.  You need to keep updating the costs for the things you are selling (updating your "menu").

This effect will slow down as the currency matures.
4464  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: June 23, 2011, 01:53:57 PM

This is the most annoying criticism of all.  The world has changed and is changing.  We have reached or are approaching a time when digital things can replace physical things.  That's just the way it's going.  Stop fighting it.

Remember wikipedia? The world finally accept wikipedia is here to stay after a decade. Now everyone is "meh". Someday, bitcoin is be "meh" too.

+1

I don't think that you young people can quite understand just how revolutionary Wikipedia was and still is.  I remember growing up in the Dark Ages, prior to the Great Internet Event (tm).  My father paid a small fortune for an incomplete encyclopedia, and I read all 23 volumes that we had in a single Summer.  Now days, an 11 year old can call 'bs' on an adult full of it in two minutes with a cell phone.  My grandfather would just make stuff up to screw with us kids.  We never could know if he was feeding us a line or not because his lies were so plausible to an eight year old.  I can't do that to a six year old without one running to the computer to check googlw or wikipedia.
4465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How does a Thorium reactor work? on: June 23, 2011, 01:43:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop
4466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How does a Thorium reactor work? on: June 23, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_amplifier
4467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How does a Thorium reactor work? on: June 23, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
Forget nuclear power.


In 50 years we will have a space elevator which will trow solar panels in the space, to have all the juicy energy you need.

Without nukes, we don't have the spare energy to build a space elevator, technology aside.  A launch loop is going to happen first, and functionally requires nukes.
4468  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New here on: June 23, 2011, 12:39:47 PM
Yo!
4469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nuclear Energy. Do you want more or less? on: June 23, 2011, 04:36:05 AM
I wonder how long until mobiles will carry their own little plants

A long time.  People still freak out about the electromagnetic radiation that cell phones emit under normal operation.  Neutronic radiation actually merits such panic.
4470  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nuclear Energy. Do you want more or less? on: June 23, 2011, 04:30:23 AM
I love it when anti-nuclear fanatics use the argument that I should build a reactor in my back yard, because I practically have one. It's 1500 meters away. I can see the containment building and exhaust rising above the trees. Unfortunately, it's only a research reactor.

I've never been inside the facility, but my girlfriend knows someone who works there as an operator and they arranged a tour for us this week. I hope we get to see the pool! As a nuclear hobbyist, one of my wishes is to see the Cherenkov effect before I die Wink

What's the smallest Thorium reactor possible?

Possible I don't know.  Smallest practical is about 14 Kw thermal, which is tiny.  There is no theoretical minimum for an energy amp thorium reactor.  But the reactor size itself is rarely the issue.  It's usually the containment and shield mass that is the largest expense, which is why civil reactors favor such huge economies of scale. 
4471  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The next step for Bitcoin: Cell Phone Service Takeover on: June 23, 2011, 02:51:54 AM
This reminds me of people who post on forums that focus on homebrew game development, along the lines of "hey i have a great idea for this mmorpg we just need programmers and artists and servers and i wrote the story with my friend it took a whole week.  i will be managing this product just need people willing to help out it is a really good idea guys!  also i came up with a name for it."

Here is the real question: Why would anybody with the skills to do this help you?  You do not bring anything to the table, the project would be better off without you.  If you really wanted it to succeed, you would be happy to have someone who knows what they are doing run it, and just work at promoting them.  Not for any compensation, either.



Because I have family members that work at at&t and apple. I can get an unlimited amount of phones if these this works out. Your probably wondering why not sell them on ebay yah yah yah... but unlike you, Mr. Useless Troll, I have an idea and a dream Smiley

Wait, you are trying to set up a company to sell property that you know that your family has stolen from their employers, and you want us to help you commit this crime?
4472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is where I stop believing Obama is possibly a rational, intelligent man. on: June 23, 2011, 02:48:56 AM
Is there any rule of proportionality? (ie you could shoot me if I was trying to kill your kid, but not if I was trying to steal your money)

Yes, there is.  It's called escalation of force.  I have the right to try and prevent you from continuing to damage my property.  I can, if I see fit, lay hands on your person to attempt to physically eject you from my property.  If you are harmed in the doing so, I might be liable for that or I might not, but that depends on both the degree of the harm and the intent of action.  If you bumped your head because you tripped while being pushed off my property, but the bump was neither long term brain damage and a reasonable third party observer wouldn't have assumed that I intended to cause you harm, nor that same observer believe that I had used a level of force that was unnecessary towards the goal (protect the property, eject the thief) then I have done nothing wrong.  If you resist my interference (or the interference of my hired thug) and then either take a swing at me or threaten to do so, then that is the initiation of force that escalates the conflict, not me protecting my own property from harm.  If you pull out a knife, a deadly threat has been issued even if nothing was said.  At this point, I'm within my rights to pull out a firearm, but I can't shoot you in the back.  If you are trying to escape, I must let you leave, no matter the harm already done to my property. 
4473  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is where I stop believing Obama is possibly a rational, intelligent man. on: June 23, 2011, 02:38:23 AM
The only thing you're being forced to do is keep your paws off of other people and their stuff.

1) How did they get that stuff?


Lacking evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that they came by it honestly, via their own labors.  Either they made themselves, or they traded for it.  You seem to insist that the basic assumption is that those who posses an object or real estate came by it dishonestly.

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2) Who decided that taking a human life was a morally acceptable way of defending property that can be made whole through restitution on other ways?

No one decided this, because no one can.  Where did you come up with this idea?
4474  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is where I stop believing Obama is possibly a rational, intelligent man. on: June 23, 2011, 02:35:17 AM
Then we need to get even more basic.  What defines "ownership"?  What does it mean that an individual believes that he "owns" a thing, whether or not others recognize his claim?

It means that the individual believes she has the exclusive say over how such "thing" is used.

Not quite.  The delivery truck driver in the former Soviet Union had exclusive say over how the truck was used, so long as he was still the driver.  This is because he had possession, but he did not have ownership.  One of the necessary conditions of ownership is the right to destroy the thing.  The truck driver didn't have the right to destroy the truck, even though he certainly had the access necessary to do so if he had the will.  I will presume that you would agree that only you should have the right to decide to destroy the fleshbag that your mind resides within.  So would you agree that you own your own body?
4475  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How to run an Anarchy on: June 23, 2011, 02:10:38 AM
No one said that there are no rules.
4476  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nuclear Energy. Do you want more or less? on: June 23, 2011, 12:39:26 AM
nuclear plants are still safer (injures/kills less) than fossil fuel plants

Yeah, right.
Tell that to the people living near Chernobyl.


No one who lived near Chernobyl died or contracted cancer as a direct result of their proximity.  Chernobyl was a bad accident, but contrary to popular belief, an American coal plant releases more radioactive material into the air each year than Chernobyl did.  The problem was that Chernobyl was doing it in concentration as well as would have continued doing so so long as the fire continued.  Coal contains large amounts of thorium and uranium naturally, and there is no way to get them out before burning it.  So some portion of those elements do end up in the exhaust.  I've been employed in both types of power plants in the United States, including the oldest coal fired power plant still licensed in the United States, Beckjord Power Plant, and I can honestly say that I would much rather live near a nuke plant than a coal plant.  Yes, there is a small chance that said nuke plant could be mismanaged and have an incident that harms my children; but that's a certainty if you live downwind from a coal plant.  Go tour a coal plant, nothing green grows within a quarter mile of the stack.  Nothing.

EDIT:  BTW, Chernobyl continued to produce power for another 15 years or so before being mothballed.  Only the affected reactor was closed immediately.  There is no evidence that employees that worked at Chernobyl after the incident were exposed to any more radiation than their peers at any other nuke plants.
4477  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC hit 120 PLN, (217/156 as valuable as MtGox high) - did anyone notice? on: June 22, 2011, 11:33:56 PM
That might be your objective, but it's certainly not mine.
4478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Forum moderation policy on: June 22, 2011, 11:32:18 PM
I have to admit, I'm amused at the irony that a thread with this one's original subject matter can devolve into an argument where both parties involved violate one or more of the conditions that they recently agreed to.
4479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is where I stop believing Obama is possibly a rational, intelligent man. on: June 22, 2011, 11:29:27 PM
http://desertislandgame.com/

I'll just leave this here....
4480  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is where I stop believing Obama is possibly a rational, intelligent man. on: June 22, 2011, 10:19:54 PM
Let's get back to basics.  Does a person own himself?

Hmmm, well I prefer to think in terms of autonomy rather than "ownership", but self-ownership is not incompatible with more egalitarian understandings of property rights.

Then we need to get even more basic.  What defines "ownership"?  What does it mean that an individual believes that he "owns" a thing, whether or not others recognize his claim?
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