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4481  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: May 24, 2016, 08:17:31 AM
Need to find yourself in something and then need to work hard on it. Nobody can't get rich without hard work i think, i do not take into account the lottery.
You can only get rich if you are smart, hard word does not guarantee you to become rich. See for yourself, people in africa are working hard, even women and children and yet they are poor. Just trying to put things in the right perspective here.
but working hard probably can make you a good living, but working in a smart way will make make you rich. It is just you that are working hard. Working in smart way is to ask others to work for you and earn money for you.

Hiring people to work for you is only for those people who are already rich and can afford to pay people to work for them and make money. But if you are just starting up, working hard is a key. You need money to make money. And working smart is not just hire people but make your money work for you. Like putting your money in a good investment where it can earn without you managing it. That is an example of working smart.
4482  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 24, 2016, 07:54:18 AM
I think need to use both ways to become rich and famuse person. Always need to keep some money for rainy day, and if your money is already working on you, you will sooner get your profit.

You could still always lose your money however the chances is low, every rich guy knows exactly how to manage to their financial or atleast they do know how to hire someone to manage it for them. Choose investment with high liquidity incase of emergency in the future rather than saving money

Even investments with high liquidity still needs days to process before  you can get your money. So in case of emergency, the money in the bank is still your best choice. You can save a fix amount and all the rest you can invest or spend however you like it. Important thing is, you have money saved you can easily pull when the need or emergency arises. Both is important but savings must be complete first before investing.
4483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: May 24, 2016, 04:04:42 AM
gambling will destroy us feel when experiencing a loss, but if the gamble we experience the obvious advantage that the destruction is not going to feel.

Yes that's true, Gambling will just wreck our lives. Think about it that you are going to waste your hard earned for playing it to gambling and not knowing
if your money there will earn , win or not. Better just to save your money rather than put it into gambling.
And if you don't have something to gamble , committing crimes is possible.

Yes, better avoid gambling than taking the risk or wrecking your life. If you get addicted, as he said, you might resort to crime just to fund your gambling addiction. That will lead to worse things. It may lead you to jail or somewhere else bad. So better avoid it now that you have a chance. And if you are already gambling, stop it as soon as possible before you get addicted.
4484  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: May 24, 2016, 03:58:16 AM
That's better as in gambling only house will win, and you will surely loose everything in long run, and you cannot depend only on gambling for living, it will ruin your entire life.

Full time bitcoin people such as gambling owners are just the one who can earn daily with their business. We can't blame them, it's a marketing
strategy and they are using the weakness of those gamblers.
But for me, I want to eat and spend money that came from my hard work, sweat and my blood.
Gambling owners also do not work full time with their website. They just start these websites with a given bankroll and then earn profit while most lose in the end due to people winning big.

Even I don't gamble my money and only earn money from genuine and legal websites (freelancer.com, odesk) and from this forum (signature campaigns, trading). I am searching for a job currently and once I get one, I'll still be a part of bitcoin system but will not leave my job.



Gambling owners also do work aside from starting a website. They have to promote and manage their site. They have to make sure that there are always a flow of player by making advertisement or doing other promotional things. They also have to make sure that the website is always running and to make sure they do not lose too much and make profits. This things are all time consuming and mentally taxing.
4485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: May 24, 2016, 03:48:30 AM
Just like addiction, addiction is a sickness that cannot be cured easily. So in gambling addiction, it is considered as sickness that cannot be healed by those professional doctors, only God can help you to cure that addiction.
not all people who gamble will become addicted after they gamble for example every day I did not do gamble because I am not gambling addict. I just do gamble for fun and do not chase the target so in the sense that gambling is not always is a disease or sickness that results in addiction


So i guess casual gamblers will not get addicted if they just do it for fun and bet small amounts only or not chase the loss. I hope it was true but all addicting stuffs always start at small amount then get worse and worse over time. I guess the time spent on doing those things causes addiction. First it becomes a habit and then an addiction and then a sickness that is hard to cure.
4486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2016 Play-Off Discussion on: May 24, 2016, 03:32:06 AM
lowry and dorezan dominate this game showing the fans why they are in the finals right now, I lose my moneyline for cavs but that's okay maybe it is not my luck hoping to bounce back tomorrow with okc and gsw games. good luck guys

Yeah, we are all looking forward for tomorrows game. I hope GSW bounce back and have a win. It is a very exciting game.

What a good game today, I was not expecting it again that the all stars of raptors will play that well tonight, they have an answer to the rally of the cavs n the 4q, I mean guys, let's respect this team, I thought they were garbage but I was wrong. I am so ashamed. Huh

That was I was thinking too. Before the series started, I thought this will be just an easy win for the cavs and a boring series. But now, Raptors are showing us that they really deserve it to be in the conference finals. I hope they keep it up and give us an exciting series until game 7. I am looking forward for the next game. I am betting for cavs next because its their home court.
4487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: May 24, 2016, 03:20:06 AM
you could stay away from online gambling by keeping less money online. So even if you lose you don't lose much.
To stay away in gambling needs a lot of discipline, you need to be more focus on doing productive things that would affect your life in a positive way in the future and never gamble if you can't handle the stress it brings unto you.

Yeah, dicilpline and commitment to yourself to stop gambling and i sucess doing that and makes me to not gambling anymore. Do something outside from your home is a good one too.

Yeah, recreational activities will take your mind away from gambling. This will help you forget gambling for a while. But the most important thing is your dedication to stay away from gambling. All these will help but he do not have it in yourself to really try and forget gambling, then nothing will happen. You need to help yourself in order to get away from it.
4488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Bitcoin? on: May 24, 2016, 03:13:12 AM
Let's be hones here. Bitcoin is the reason I started gambling. I am not a fan of real life casinos, because they are created purely to throw your off balance.
And I don't like to give FIAT powered casinos my personal information either. So playing with cryptocurrency is the only real way for me to gamble.
Me too, when I know bitcoin it always related me to gambling, and when I started using it I felt the comfort in gambling like the easiest and fastest way of transferring your balance from you wallet to online casino wallet. It amaze me and until I got hooked because of the easy access, I gamble regularly and until now, I cannot completely leave it.

that is the power of bitcoin. and it is very hard to track too. as for my country, the government dont allow us to transfer our money to online casino. but with bitcoin, it is hard for them to stop us.

Unless they track all the ip and the process, they will not be able to lead it back to us. So we are safe playing online casino using bitcoin. And it is good that there are many online casinos using bitcoin because gamblers have their choices in which site or what game they can play. Gambling will continue to prosper using bitcoin and bitcoin will be more stable because of gambling. Win win situation.
4489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2016 Play-Off Discussion on: May 24, 2016, 03:09:26 AM
now they playing, cavs already bouncing back lead by 1 it is already fourth quarter i hope they dominate now since getting back composure, good luck cavs win for us guys.

Cavs lost by 6 points. The series is now tied to 2-2. I missed the game, it was already over when I tuned in. I am shocked that the cavs lost two straight games. It will be their home court next game so I think they will make a comeback. If they don't Toronto will be on a better position on game 6 since it is their home court.
4490  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: May 23, 2016, 02:22:54 PM
You can save money in the banks for fiat money  Smiley

The interest paid by banks is in peanuts, you  cannot afford to save your money in banks as the value of saving would be nothing in future due to high inflation rate.

He is right, interest rates in banks are almost nothing. But it is still a good place to save money for emergency purposes because you can easily withdraw it. But if you are saving for  your future, then it is better to save it in an investment. It will earn you more thru dividends.
you both correct,if people want better interest,they should invest their money to people in this forum,lender can put interest as they can,but it with good deal with people who want to loan that money.

How sure you are that the debtor will not run away with your money. Everything is just dealt online and we do not know each other exactly. He may borrow and when he already have the money ,.he can just go offline with your money. If you want to save,save on a bank. If you want to invest, invest on a good and reliable investment.
4491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: May 23, 2016, 02:14:17 PM
I can earn much money with gambling but the problem is i don't have big bankroll for it. If i have much bankroll, i can win much money and not care about the loss.

If you can really win in gambling, then you can make a bigger bankroll. If you are sure about winning, a bigger bankroll should never be a problem to you. You just need to start small and win it to big bankroll. But I think you can't win all, that is why you need big bank roll. You better stop gambling because I can tell you will just lose all your money even if you have a bigger bankroll.
4492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2016 Play-Off Discussion on: May 23, 2016, 02:08:32 PM
I find it disturbing to see the final score of today's game between Oklahoma City Thunders and Golden State Warriors. 133 - 105 that's a 28 points lead. This is not going to be a walk in the park for defending champion Golden State Warriors, they need to step up their game and get our of their comfort zone or else it will be Cavalier's and Thunder in the Finals.

I think that the Warriors will reflect on their playing and try harder next game and win, as a 28 point loss is no joke. They have the skills to beat Oklahoma, they just need to use them. I think that they will tie the series next game, but I don't know about the games after that.

It's very possible that the finals will be Cavalier's vs Thunder.

They will be better next game. It is simply not their day today. They cannot get their offense right and their shots are not going in. I am sure they will review the tapes and adjust to stop OKC offense and defense. It is still too .early to predict cavs vs okc on finals.
4493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: May 23, 2016, 02:04:30 PM
Gambling is so addicting because its a way of earning money on a fast way and you want to try it till you will win something.
After you have won you want to do it again and again to earn money but this is of course not gonna happen it only will be enjoyable.

For people who thinks it's a way of earning fast money it will lead them to loosing big amount instead. If you treat it like this then you won't gonna get any profit at all, it will just make you chasing your losses. Greed is the most common causes on why many gamblers get addicted and loosing big amount money.
things we have to underline the gambling addiction is GREED. This is indeed a major problem that can cause our losses.

I find it right, being greedy is one of the reason why gambling is very addictive. Because you have the chance of winning high amount.
But the chance of losing also is high. And people who wants to get shortcut in riches will take the risk of gambling.

Yeah, greed usually gets the best of us. We see only profit from gambling but we fail to see that we can also lose a lot. If only we can see it clearly, then we will not be addicted to it. We will avoid it in the first place. The only winner in gambling is the house. And they nake gambling nore enticing so they can have more gamblers addicted to their games.
4494  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: May 20, 2016, 09:04:55 AM
It would be perfect for you if you can invest in a house and that is because you can sell it even later with some nice profit and that would be perfect for you.
The only thing is that you need a lot of coins with Bitcoin if you want to buy a house.
for now not much people who sell house accept bitcoin as a payment so i think to reach this dream you can save a little by your earning from bitcoin to buy a house.

It will be a long time before he can reach the amount enough to purchase a house unless he is earning maybe a bitcoin per week. Then most probably, he can buy a house. I don't think you want to wait longer before you buy a house. The longer you wait, the more expensive it gets and harder to save for a house.
4495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: May 20, 2016, 08:26:27 AM
The poor people that live from the hopes of making money on gambling are very deluded and im sorry for them. Im broke myself and I know how stupid it would be to spend my hard earned money in risky gambling. Sure, taking big risks its the only way to get out of the broke situation, but if you lose you will not even be broke anymore, you will be on the streets begging for food and I would rather stay broken than that. My only hope is that my Bitcoins are valuable enough in 10 years to change my life.
Most of the people do not understand, how gambling should be played unlike you. They forget the value of their bitcoin and simply going for gambling to waste them.
I guess you will become rich with your bitcoin hoardings and you will come back to gambling after you become rich.

I don't think he will still come back to gambling after proving to himself that getting rich from gambling is just an illusion. And the only way to get out of bankruptcy is through hard work. He already knows the value of hard earned bitcoin and will not risk to lose it on a game of gamble. I also believe that staying away from gambling even when you are rich is a smart choice.
They are rich because they have a good attitude towards money, they can manage their funds properly, so whether they go gambling you can expect that they will not put a huge amount that they cannot afford to lose.

I just hope it is true to all rich person in the world, but it is not. Maybe at first, they can manage properly their gambling habit. But it will be a different story if they become addicted to it or they become compulsive gambler.  They can be ruining their financial status or even their life and they would not even mind it.
4496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: May 20, 2016, 07:27:27 AM
hi

i am getting addicted to gambling.And i am loosing a lot of money.I am loosing what i can't afford to lose.its sad that when you start loosing its just busted me again and again.at last i gamble for fun but now when i am getting addicted i am loosing too much.

Any suggestions are welcome  Smiley

Regards

its a addiction which is not easy to back off once you got it i can understand you but the key is to busy yourself in other things if you are doing a job then do over time come home when you are really tired and sleep right away if you did not make even 1 bet in 15 days you are good
I agree, we must keep ourselves busy on doing productive things instead of devoting it in gambling. The more we gamble, the more our chances of losing is high. Let's remember that gambling is for fun only.

Easy to say but very hard to do, I agree that we should keep ourself busy with something else that take our focus away from gambling, but the fact that we get back to gambling almost everyday I think its very difficult to put aside for the most part of the gamblers. I am trying to do it but so far not really successful although some very little improvements.

It depends on how much engrossed you are about the activity you are doing. If your time and mind is occupied enough, you will have no time to spend for gambling. Do it long enough, you will be forgetting about gambling soon. If it does not work, you may need to really seek the help of a professional. It may be the only way to quit gambling addiction.
4497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: May 20, 2016, 07:22:57 AM
Sometimes gambling let you cry and its logical because gambling is not easy and its depending on luck.
Everyone has the feeling of crying with gambling, I really have no doubts about that.

Gambling mostly make those people cry who think that they will just get rich with gambling if they play big, but they don't know that gambling is not made for making everyone rich, but it just happens for some lucky people once in a while.
People just put all their money in gambling to multiplying them without thinking about the risk, so these people would surely cry when they see they have lost all they had.
People cried because of two things, happiness and sadness. I am a long time losers in gambling but I have not cried yet, maybe just because I was able to handle my losses. I will really cry if I win millions in gambling.

Me too I never cried in gambling of losing and I have lost quite a lot , I was a fanatic of slot machines and lost lots of BTC there, maybe I will cry the day when I will hit the jackpot yeah I keep thinking I will win it some day I just hope I am not 75 years old like the guy who won hugest jackpot of his life at this age.

Maybe if you spend a lifetime playing slots, you can win a jackpot. But by then, you have also lost so much money that will equal to the jackpot you will win. So, you just wasted time on slots without any gain. You are not crying on your losses so I may also mean money is nothing to you. Maybe you are rich or something. Good luck to you winning a jackpot.
4498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Bitcoin? on: May 20, 2016, 06:15:03 AM
There are so many gamblers that uses bitcoins these days. Also with normal cash but coin gambling
is growing so fast cant get grip on that. Why would everybody want to lose their coins just for a gamble
i would never understand that.
The combination between gambling and Bitcoin has definitely paid off as you can see. Now there are still appearing more and more gambling sites were you can make use of Bitcoins as a currency. 
That is true gambling in combination with Bitcoin has proven to be a great thing and it is becoming more popular. There new Bitcoin gambling site everyday people want to make use of this quickly and I do not blame them.
Bitcoin provided a perfect solution to circumvent around having to use credit cards to finance online gambling. It is anonymous, unlike using credit cards where government can track your transactions and trace you. With bitcoin, they cannot do that. That is why, more and more people are gambling and more are using bitcoin. They are just perfect partners, bitcoin and gambling.
4499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: May 20, 2016, 06:08:33 AM
Gambling is so addicting because its a way of earning money on a fast way and you want to try it till you will win something.
After you have won you want to do it again and again to earn money but this is of course not gonna happen it only will be enjoyable.

For people who thinks it's a way of earning fast money it will lead them to loosing big amount instead. If you treat it like this then you won't gonna get any profit at all, it will just make you chasing your losses. Greed is the most common causes on why many gamblers get addicted and loosing big amount money.

You are right and it is the most common problem of a gambling addict. They think they can beat the house and actually win big time on gambling but the truth is, they will never win. And the more they chase the losses they have the deeper they are into their gambling addiction. They will never beat the house unless they stop gambling altogether.
4500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: May 20, 2016, 06:00:24 AM
im one sick bastard then xD

You better cure your sickness when it is still early and there is still medicine to stop that. Earlier solution and curing it will be better, rather than if you already get addicted to gambling and no one could stop well it will become a syndrome xD
Absolutely, being addicted with gambling is hardest disease to cure, that is an emotional disease where you cannot control your self and you just gamble regularly just to satisfied your cravings to it. When you gamble you cannot decided well so in the long run you will lose and might lead you to bankruptcy.

Yes Sickness thats a better word for Gambling. Its sort of sickness.  It is just a pay for entertaining if you are just want to play to win you will lose everything, gambling is for fun not for living. But if you are lucky , you can be the richest in small amount of time.
you should  manage with right balance and timing to quit. will help you to not lose too much.

I beg to disagree, gambling has nothing to do with your life if you are not into it. It is just an establishment and it does force people to gamble. Only those irresponsible gamblers should consider gambling as sickness in their life but in totality it cannot be considered as sickness.

It is because it attracts people to do gambling with those huge win advertisement and beautiful women assisting you. Some online casinos even give away free bitcoins so you can try gambling. And when you try, you will get hooked and will be addicted. So whether you are a gambler or not, you will still be affected by it.
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