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4481  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The technological singularity on: October 01, 2018, 09:36:36 PM
....everything we can perceive is made of the same consciousness and because of that, EVERYTHING has consciousness. (If you want to listen him talking about this specific topic watch this video at minute 9:12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owppju3jwPE&t=515s

It may sound crazy from a materialistic/traditional science point of view, but even the most advanced scientific understanding that we have nowadays (which is Quantum Mechanics) may prove that there are evidence of it being totally possible.

My consciousness says your consciousness is wrong, and what my consciousness knows about QM says there's zero relationship between QM principles or theory and consciousness.

But it's worth noting that if Ai develops consciousness here in 50 years or less, then it has numerous other places in the universe a long time ago.
4482  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IQ tests for internet users would make the internet safe (and this board empty) on: October 01, 2018, 07:59:20 PM
Only allow posting if IQ < 79
4483  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: October 01, 2018, 07:05:08 PM
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I won't take you up on that bet, however, as another attempt at delay after the FBI investigation is done seems almost a given at this point....

Of course you won't take that bet. And all of the posers on this forum claiming they are concerned about the rape charges won't either. Because every single gambit for delays is going to be played, because that's all it's about.


It was not particularly logical to outsource this investigation to the FBI as you note. It is really is the Senate's job and they have the power to compel testimony under oath.

Has the Senate actually subpoenaed anyone with regards to Kavanaugh? Subpoenas can't be issued by the minority so they're unlikely to be of much use when there is no bipartisan agreement as to the scope of the investigation.

No. Generally a subpoena would be if someone didn't voluntarily show up. And I disagree about "cannot be issued by the minority" more likely the head of the committee issues them without needing a vote of any sort. For something like that, he  likely would do one if a minority member sought it and it wasn't outside the scope or some looney thing.

Note that when a subpoena was issued, then the defense counsel would be able to request a different date, and they could do that several times. There's the delay game play. They'd love that, because that's all they want.

But remember please this is not frivolous stuff. A subpoena or not, you go to that committee you likely must have an attorney and immediately you are out $10-100k. Of course that's not the case if you are backed by big money interests like Ford. She is not the one paying those attorneys.

A lot of people would find a pattern of sexual abuse by a SC nominee material and of interest. But some stuff in high school or college they would not care about. The arguments by Ford are very weak accusations, insufficient to disqualify.

It is interesting that public arguments are actually being made now that the accusation should be enough to disqualify, which means literally anyone can be disqualified for anything at the whim of a third party. It's unfortunate the "me-too" movement has now been abused and raped for political advantage.

I hope this disgusting attempt to ruin a man for their own gain backfires on the Democrats big time.
4484  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: October 01, 2018, 02:20:49 PM
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BTW your President ORDERED the FBI to do a supplemental background check (investigation) on this nom, just like many Presidents have done many times in the past because new information...

Geez, we could use them for all kinds of things.

Let's have them figure out if Elizabeth Warren is really an Indian like she says she is?

Do you always blame a scape-goat, or only on bitcointalk?

re: False Equivalence Fallacy

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False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which two completely opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.
Hey, I got an idea.

We could use that FBI to find out about this Russia Collusion that Trump has.

Right? You used to talk about Russia Collusion a lot. Why so silent recently?
4485  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The technological singularity on: October 01, 2018, 02:17:09 PM
The technological singularity, how far are we off from the 2045 date when this will all come together....

I don't know.

I will ask Google.
4486  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ted Kaczynski - The Unabomber | Was he right? on: October 01, 2018, 11:57:54 AM
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These facts do not matter. There are any number of people with IQ of >167 whom one would not read because they were boring or wrong, many reasons. In this case the guy was crazy.

I don't think he was crazy, its typical to see these highly motivated intelligent people to lack EQ.. they lose sight of why we form a society, and become very asymmetrical and polarised to other peoples emotional needs, this is often expressed in the way they might express themselves.

But this goes a bit further than lacking EQ. However I think we're more in agreement than not. You could expand the definition of "crazy" to include him, and I could shrink it to exclude him.
4487  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: October 01, 2018, 08:13:37 AM
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BTW your President ORDERED the FBI to do a supplemental background check (investigation) on this nom, just like many Presidents have done many times in the past because new information...

Geez, we could use them for all kinds of things.

Let's have them figure out if Elizabeth Warren is really an Indian like she says she is?



4488  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: October 01, 2018, 02:58:45 AM
The four people named by Ford have already produced sworn statements that they were not there, that the party did not happen, blah-blah-blah. They cannot change those statements without being under penalty of perjury.

Technically they can. The statements were mostly along the lines of "I don't remember". They can start remembering and that not necessarily perjury. Or for example if the FBI uncovers more specific details such as the date/location/etc and asks more specific questions then witnesses can provide more specific answers without contradicting their previous statements made about a more vague allegation.

Good luck with that!

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-09-18%20Judge%20to%20Grassley,%20Feinstein%20(Kavanaugh%20Nomination).pdf

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-09-22%20Keyser%20to%20Committee%20Investigators%20-%20Ford%20Allegations.pdf

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-09-18%20Smyth%20to%20Judiciary%20Committee%20-%20%20Ford%20Allegations.pdf

4489  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: October 01, 2018, 12:47:48 AM
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The Senate has requested a supplemental FBI investigation to help them in their decision making and that is underway.

I think people may not understand the limits of "an FBI investigation" in this case. The FBI cannot issue subpoenas, the Senate committee can. The FBI cannot compel people to testify. Without subpoena power, the FBI cannot get phone records, email records or bank records.

The four people named by Ford have already produced sworn statements that they were not there, that the party did not happen, blah-blah-blah. They cannot change those statements without being under penalty of perjury.

The bet that should be made at this junction is whether one of the major Democratic operatives, such as Creepy Porn Lawyer, comes up with yet another delaying tactic at the last hour of the last day of the FBI investigation. You know they will.
4490  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 30, 2018, 10:12:28 PM
This FBI investigation, they have already investigate Kav multiple times, now they are investigating this accusation, hopefully investigating the accusers and their co-conspirators, their might be something to find..

Finally someone from the right is making sense if this is a dem conspiracy you should be demanding the FBI investigate this so you can provide evidence of the plot or at the very least clear this poor innocent man and spare his family the humiliation...

Provide evidence of the plot? Why should that be someone "from the right?" All the left doesn't care? They may not have been the conspirator or the leaker, but they are on board with the events?

Why should Kav have to prove himself innocent?

Who has the burden of proof?

Due process is at the center of our entire concepts of justice. Not just in courtroom.

Does everyone have to fear unproved and unprovable accusations, if they don't comply with demands from a corrupt powerful group?
4491  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I am a Muslim, and I am not a terrorist on: September 30, 2018, 10:09:00 PM
I am not saying that every Muslim is a terrorist. But every terrorist is a Muslim.“, that’s what I heard somebody saying in the media. When people say that these terrorists, especially ISIS and Taliban, are Muslims, I could also point at a donkey and say it is a horse. There is no right to call these people Muslims. If I call ISIS Muslims, it is an insult to all Muslims. .....

http://www.telospress.com/how-many-muslims-still-support-terrorism/

....the very disturbing fact that the “7% terrorist supporters” were exactly the number that explicitly agreed that the terror attacks of September 11 were “completely justified.” They also admitted that another 6.5% of global Muslims justified the attacks, and another 23.1% thought that they were at least somewhat “justified.”

That totals up as 36.6% of global Muslims who do not condemn the 9/11 attacks, which constitutes a milieu of hundreds of millions of people.

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92% of Muslims worldwide do not want their daughter to marry a Christian, 86% believe that women must obey their husbands, 86% believe that only Islam leads to heaven, and 70% want Sharia as the law of the country. 45% support stoning as punishment for adultery, and 45% advocate the “honor killing” of a woman who has violated the “honor” code of the family. 35% are in favor of the death penalty for leaving Islam, and 32% endorse polygamy.

4492  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 30, 2018, 09:59:18 PM
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There is evidence that Ford is lying, for one the fact that her story has changed over time, and secondly that all of the people she claims were at the gathering she was alleged assaulted at, say that no such gathering ever happened. 

If she's lying she's not a very good liar. More likely she's just confused about those events in the dim past.


....It is too bad that Senate staffers have already investigated all of the allegations, as has the media, both of which have been unable to verify any of the underlying facts, in other words, they have found the accusations to be baseless.  Senate democrat staffers have not participated in said investigations, despite being invited to do so, because Democrats do not care about the truth.

After all this is said and done, and no confirmation of Ford's accusations is found, these very Democrats are still going to vote against Kavanaugh. Every last one of them.
4493  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 30, 2018, 07:52:32 PM
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Kavanaugh is not on trial, so there is no presumption of innocence here. ....

I'm curious how and where that sort of world view came to your brain.

I don't agree with that view, at all.
4494  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 30, 2018, 07:45:51 PM
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They are so desperate now they are getting bad at hiding it, more people come to the realization every day, so I'd be quite surprised to be hit by any "blue wave" any time soon until the moderate left regroups itself, disavows marxism and all the dirty political tricks they pull, and then maybe some of the center left will have a chance again some day.. Until then, I'm not willing to give them an inch..

With the democrats supporting and running socialists, and smearing politics with rape accusations, I don't see them having a chance, but maybe I put too much faith in my fellow citizens..

And this is exactly the sort of behavior that drove people to Trump (and will again.)

Where's that Russia Collusion?


It's hardly Democrats' fault that Trump's preferred demographic for his appointments is "straight Christian white man"

That's what the left says until the right appoints anything else and then they are just the token black guy, queer, or woman that they are just appointing for brownie points with minorities and of course they are not a "real" black anymore, uncle toms, race traitors, gender traitors..

Their is no way to win, no matter what the left always has a way to smear it to their flock.. ....

Clarence Thomas at his circus hearings -

"Why don't y'all just go ahead and kill me now?"
4495  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 30, 2018, 05:39:46 PM
Well if Trump nominates another serial rapist and liar then its not hard to imagine them not getting a (if they lose the senate) lame duck nom through lol!

And with thus deceleration of guilt you along with much of the irrational left have entirely abandoned the presumption innocence so fundamental for society to exist as anything other then a tyranny of the powerful.

You have joined with the radicals in their preposterous belief that an accusation alone determines guilt and are willing to condemn a man on that treacherous grounds.

The Democratic Party has now announced that every straight Christian white man will be guilty until proven innocent wherever they hold power. This used to just be SJWs on campus. Now it’s their whole party.

Guilty? Only if they are not Democratics.

They look the other way in an instant when it's those in their own party. Or their puppets of judges.

Of course it's also true that personal last minute smears is a standard operating tactic for Democrats.

Nothing new in that at all. Remember Bush and the letter that claimed he shirked his duty? Released at the last minute in the election cycle by Democrats who thought they'd get away with a last minute smear. But they got caught, didn't they..

https://nypost.com/2004/09/14/a-font-of-fakes-bush-bash-memos-forged-expert/

...a former adjunct computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon University who has published several Microsoft programming and graphics papers in addition to his book, is convinced the documents are a recent fabrication.

Newcomer – who said he’s no fan of Bush, but cannot let a forgery go unchallenged – tested the pixels and format of the CBS documents.

“With a couple of false starts, I was able in five minutes and two printings to hold my memo in front of the CBS memo, and they were almost identical,” he said.


4496  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 30, 2018, 02:03:28 PM
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At this point I still think the republicans will get their generation of conservative jurisprudence but I highly doubt it will be Kavanaugh as the Justice that makes that happen.

Y'all are screaming over losing the battle but yet still won the war.  The only thing stopping the republicans is the republicans haha.
I can argue with some of your details but not this.

The Repubs seem to be pretty divergent and loose-knit, far more difficult to get them to all be together than the Democrats. They'll goose-step in cadence to what latest weird nonsense was handed to them. Every time.
4497  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would Ayn Rand be called Anarcho-capitalist today? on: September 30, 2018, 12:41:44 PM
The failure of Rand's philosophy exists in the fact that everything was given to her, freely... everything important, that is. Consider, where would you get another arm if you lost yours? Where would you get an eye?
You mean, she is privileged through being woman, white, educated, probably healthy at least physically, Russian, Jewish, American?
But what about her ancestors, who fought for millenia for placing her into her position? They lost, won, suffered incredible sufferings. It all had imprints on her. Everything is free, and at the same time, nothing is free in this world. It's wrong to suppress people whose only crime is being capable and normal.
Rand was penniless when she came to the US, and earned everything through hard work.

 RE your question "Would she be called an anarcho-capitalist," she considered herself a laissez faire capitalist, and rejected anarchism.

However I believe...not certain...the meaning of these terms has changed since the 1930s, and certainly crypto has changed aspects of capitalism's potential.

Rand believed in hard money, eg, gold and silver, and as such there's no doubt she would have been a strong advocate of bitcoin and other peer-to-peer currencies. She advocated the State but for the fewest possible activities.
4498  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supreme Court pick Brett Kavanaugh on: September 30, 2018, 04:11:16 AM
The left has not been calling for one thing only. They want to delay the confirmation, on the gamble that senate and congress ratios change. That's all it's about.

The people I have known in the FBI are pretty outstanding.

There's a corollary to Occim's razor. Make the hypothesis as simple as possible, but no simpler than the facts actually demand.

You can't ignore the hyper politicized environment. It is what it is.

Well, that's what the FBI is supposed to do - facts.

If Democrats were gambling - Republicans could (and should) have called their bluff long ago and saved themselves some time. There was no point delaying the FBI investigation. But even in the worst case they still have 3 months. It would take a series of monumental fuckups for Republicans to lose that SCOTUS seat.

There is no such thing as "monumental fuckups." There is nothing here except attempts to create delay both by public smear campaign and by legal maneuvers.

There is no "if" to "Democrats gambling." Of course they are. They hope to win majority in the House and have certain strategies predicated upon that outcome.

There is no merit to what the FBI is "supposed to do."
4499  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ted Kaczynski - The Unabomber | Was he right? on: September 30, 2018, 02:54:25 AM
I would love to know the opinions of people who are interested in this very cutting edge field of blockchains and decentralisation. A lot of people who I often speak with believe that Ted Kaczynski was ahead of his time. And a lot of the ideas in his manifesto are becoming true...

Do you agree with Ted's Manifesto? and could there of been a better way today for him to have got the attention he needed for this important debate?

For anybody who's interested in his manifesto its available here.
http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

I have read it.

The manifesto is indeed interesting and has certain "good ideas," then it descends abruptly into madness.

Which is exactly what one would expect, given the writer's mental state.

I would rather live in hunter gatherer times, but unfortunately I'm forced to live with all this technology which stresses me out a lot and makes my life really hectic.  There is no where I can go to live off the land because every piece of earth is supposedly owned by someone.

There are any number of places you can go test the hypothesis that you'd rather live that way. Go try it for three days and report back on how you like it.

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Quick fact!
Ted Kaczynski had an I.Q. of 167, Kaczynski was a certified genius. He was born in Illinois in 1942, graduated high school and entered Harvard at age 15, completed his PhD in Mathematics at 25, and became the youngest professor to be hired by the University of California, Berkeley that same year.

These facts do not matter. There are any number of people with IQ of >167 whom one would not read because they were boring or wrong, many reasons. In this case the guy was crazy.
4500  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would Ayn Rand be called Anarcho-capitalist today? on: September 30, 2018, 02:51:41 AM
I bought her book of essays "Capitalism. The Unknown Ideal" written in 1946-1966 a few days ago and one of her main theses appears to be that USA slowly descend into fascism: the kind of statism that preserves "property rights" (socialism seizes property) but puts the means of production under direct and total control of State.
I bought it in Russian and I didn't find all the important quotes from the blurb yet, but they are (partially in my own back translation):

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Individual rights, freedom, justice, progress — these are the philosophical values, theoretical goals and practical results of Capitalism.

Capitalism is the only system that enables people to reach abundance in production, and the key to Capitalism is personal freedom.

The moral justification of Capitalism lies in the fact that it is the only system consonant with man’s rational nature, that it protects man’s survival qua man, and that its ruling principle is: justice.

Capitalism is a social system based on the recognition of individual rights, including property rights, in which all property is privately owned.

When I say “capitalism,” I mean a full, pure, uncontrolled, unregulated laissez-faire capitalism — with a separation of state and economics, in the same way and for the same reasons as the separation of state and church.

If Capitalism wouldn't exist, every honest intellectual would be obliged to apply all his mental faculties and efforts to create it.

And finally:
Capitalism is not the system of the past; it is the system of the future — if mankind is to have a future.
She was a great writer, and thought issues through far better than most ever understand them . You've picked a great set of essays there. It varies in quality and relevance to today's issues.
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