Well actually, you folks who are against the proof that God exists are delusional. Why? Many times I have shown the proofs. But nobody has come up with explanations of why the proofs don't "work." You may not like the proofs. You may wish the proofs were not so. You may wish that God doesn't exist. But you haven't been able to show that He doesn't exist. Come on. Do a scientific-like step-by-step rebuttal if you can. Pick even one point and do something more than just talk that it doesn't prove God. You can't, can you. All you can do is say that the proof isn't proof. Sounds like faith to me. You are trying to have faith that God doesn't exist, right in the face of the scientific proof that He DOES exist.  I already did, what you said about the complexity of the universe is false the entropy is always increasing not decreasing. What did you already do? I said that entropy is increasing and that complexity is decreasing.
You said
''The progression is that, as the machines that people make and use are far more advanced than the ones that animals make and use, so are the machines that exist in nature far more advanced than the ones that people make and use. The advanced machines of the universe have an advanced Maker - God. Machines have makers.''
What are the ''machines'' in nature?
The machines in nature are the whole way nature acts. Nature is full of "levers" and leverages, all working in great complexity in whatever happens in nature.
'' are produced by causes, whatever the causes may be. This means that the machinery of the universe, including mankind and his thinking, was designed by a Great First Cause, Which set everything in motion.''
This argument that was made really long ago is a loop, what was the cause for god then? And if your answer is something like: god has always been or has no cause the same answer can be applied to the universe
You never find anything that makes something to be part of the thing that it makes before it makes it. Same with God. Before He made nature, He wasn't part of it. So why would anyone think that He has to obey the laws of nature?
''The nations look for God.''
As time passes less and less people believe in God. Most respected scientists do not believe in God.
God doesn't respect the scientists that don't believe in God. God doesn't respect anyone who doesn't believe in Him. If a person is not respected by God, how does that hurt me? I respect god, and He respects me because of it. You never find anything that makes something to be part of the thing that it makes before it makes it. Same with the universe The difference is that there is no evidence that the universe makes anything. The universe simply operates with what it has. Second Law of Thermodynamics. There is no evidence that god makes anything either sorry. Humans, animals, plants, all evolved, they were once very simple and they have evolved to become complex, God would have made us complex from the beginning besides humans are so badly designed, why would a God make humans so imperfect, he wouldn't. |
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this is not necessarily a bubble just because it went up high so fast. you can not ignore the fact that before this rally started a lot of countries gave some kind of a green light to their people for investing in bitcoin.
something that the governments never talked about is suddenly something they are considering to accept as a legal payment method. this may seem like simple words but this is huge and it attracts a lot of investors. people who have been worried all this time because their government never said anything about bitcoin or was looking at it as something not-so-legal.
You are probably right, if you look at the history of bitcoin whenever the price bumped up very fast it always ended up going down later on but bitcoin has been going up since April 10 so I wouldn't really call this a bubble because it didn't really happen that fast |
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There are ATM's here in Spain that let you buy bitcoins, they require ID and some other personal information and you have to pay in cash, I believe at least 20 Euros, obviously it has some fees but they are not big. It's nice, there aren't many but it's still nice, the only thing bad about it is that you can only use cash, no credit card.
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Well actually, you folks who are against the proof that God exists are delusional. Why? Many times I have shown the proofs. But nobody has come up with explanations of why the proofs don't "work." You may not like the proofs. You may wish the proofs were not so. You may wish that God doesn't exist. But you haven't been able to show that He doesn't exist. Come on. Do a scientific-like step-by-step rebuttal if you can. Pick even one point and do something more than just talk that it doesn't prove God. You can't, can you. All you can do is say that the proof isn't proof. Sounds like faith to me. You are trying to have faith that God doesn't exist, right in the face of the scientific proof that He DOES exist. I already did, what you said about the complexity of the universe is false the entropy is always increasing not decreasing. What did you already do? I said that entropy is increasing and that complexity is decreasing.
You said
''The progression is that, as the machines that people make and use are far more advanced than the ones that animals make and use, so are the machines that exist in nature far more advanced than the ones that people make and use. The advanced machines of the universe have an advanced Maker - God. Machines have makers.''
What are the ''machines'' in nature?
The machines in nature are the whole way nature acts. Nature is full of "levers" and leverages, all working in great complexity in whatever happens in nature.
'' are produced by causes, whatever the causes may be. This means that the machinery of the universe, including mankind and his thinking, was designed by a Great First Cause, Which set everything in motion.''
This argument that was made really long ago is a loop, what was the cause for god then? And if your answer is something like: god has always been or has no cause the same answer can be applied to the universe
You never find anything that makes something to be part of the thing that it makes before it makes it. Same with God. Before He made nature, He wasn't part of it. So why would anyone think that He has to obey the laws of nature?
''The nations look for God.''
As time passes less and less people believe in God. Most respected scientists do not believe in God.
God doesn't respect the scientists that don't believe in God. God doesn't respect anyone who doesn't believe in Him. If a person is not respected by God, how does that hurt me? I respect god, and He respects me because of it. You never find anything that makes something to be part of the thing that it makes before it makes it. Same with the universe |
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Did you realize on your own that animals don't invent Gods or you needed help from your cult? I can enumerate you a shitload of things plants and animals do not do, you would be surprised to find out there are differences between us and other living beings. But bravo, your discovery that animals and plants do not praise gods will change the world as we know it, you little genius. On a more serious manner, I know you cultists see yourselves as gods walking the earth, I already said that about you. That's what makes you a fanatic in the first place. On the other hand, no, I do not see myself as a God among nature because I am aware of the reality of things. We reach a conclusion however: you said nature is beyond what mankind can think, therefore God exists. That is false, what is beyond what mankind can think is called supernatural, you should know that. And no, supernatural does not necessarily mean God. It means supernatural and you need evidence to prove that a certain supernatural is a God. That is the flaw in your mindset. That's the 'apology'. Not being able to understand something and immediately calling it God, because you've been taught since birth about God, you grew up in a culture that praises God, your brain is in big difficulty when put to work on rational, scientific things, without implying that a God exists. You are a victim of religion. Do you know what the real issue for most of the islamic immigrants is? They suddenly realized the possibility of the non existence of an after life. That kind of makes them want to live this life, not end it and risk it. The same that gave birth to Gods will also be able to 'kill' them as a 'rule' and keep them as a myth. And I am talking about mankind. It won't happen too soon because, as we can see, religious people know how to 'go with the wave' in order to keep the myth alive. That is why instead of simple, classical christians you now have deists, theists, creationists, and many other ramifications. They don't have an identity anymore because they need to adapt the lie to the modern world and its discoveries. If it was true in the first place, it would have stayed the same.
I am a little curious. Is there any scientific proof for or against the existence of God in all your religious blabber up there? No? I didn't think so. If you are new to the forum, you can see the scientific proof that God exists here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. First post is just you making conclusions from thoughts, no evidence at all, 2nd post you said complexity is diminishing when it's not so it's just false, I stopped reading there but nice ''proof'' FYI, the guy is delusional with his entropy and cause and effect arguments. Many people debunked his 'proofs' right here on this forum. He ignored all the replies and keeps posting his nonsense. The guy is delusional. Ask him where is God? He will tell you he is everywhere and nowhere  Well actually, you folks who are against the proof that God exists are delusional. Why? Many times I have shown the proofs. But nobody has come up with explanations of why the proofs don't "work." You may not like the proofs. You may wish the proofs were not so. You may wish that God doesn't exist. But you haven't been able to show that He doesn't exist. Come on. Do a scientific-like step-by-step rebuttal if you can. Pick even one point and do something more than just talk that it doesn't prove God. You can't, can you. All you can do is say that the proof isn't proof. Sounds like faith to me. You are trying to have faith that God doesn't exist, right in the face of the scientific proof that He DOES exist. I already did, what you said about the complexity of the universe is false the entropy is always increasing not decreasing. You said ''The progression is that, as the machines that people make and use are far more advanced than the ones that animals make and use, so are the machines that exist in nature far more advanced than the ones that people make and use. The advanced machines of the universe have an advanced Maker - God. Machines have makers.'' What are the ''machines'' in nature? '' are produced by causes, whatever the causes may be. This means that the machinery of the universe, including mankind and his thinking, was designed by a Great First Cause, Which set everything in motion.'' This argument that was made really long ago is a loop, what was the cause for god then? And if your answer is something like: god has always been or has no cause the same answer can be applied to the universe ''The nations look for God.'' As time passes less and less people believe in God. Most respected scientists do not believe in God. |
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Cash is always going to be relevant, it's the easiest way to pay for small things, I don't want to go to a store, buy a pack of gum and have to pay in bitcoins unless in the future bitcoin becomes so normal that new forms of payment that are fast enough are implemented. I mean right now you can pay with your credit card for almost anything so the same could happen with bitcoin
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Did you realize on your own that animals don't invent Gods or you needed help from your cult? I can enumerate you a shitload of things plants and animals do not do, you would be surprised to find out there are differences between us and other living beings. But bravo, your discovery that animals and plants do not praise gods will change the world as we know it, you little genius. On a more serious manner, I know you cultists see yourselves as gods walking the earth, I already said that about you. That's what makes you a fanatic in the first place. On the other hand, no, I do not see myself as a God among nature because I am aware of the reality of things. We reach a conclusion however: you said nature is beyond what mankind can think, therefore God exists. That is false, what is beyond what mankind can think is called supernatural, you should know that. And no, supernatural does not necessarily mean God. It means supernatural and you need evidence to prove that a certain supernatural is a God. That is the flaw in your mindset. That's the 'apology'. Not being able to understand something and immediately calling it God, because you've been taught since birth about God, you grew up in a culture that praises God, your brain is in big difficulty when put to work on rational, scientific things, without implying that a God exists. You are a victim of religion. Do you know what the real issue for most of the islamic immigrants is? They suddenly realized the possibility of the non existence of an after life. That kind of makes them want to live this life, not end it and risk it. The same that gave birth to Gods will also be able to 'kill' them as a 'rule' and keep them as a myth. And I am talking about mankind. It won't happen too soon because, as we can see, religious people know how to 'go with the wave' in order to keep the myth alive. That is why instead of simple, classical christians you now have deists, theists, creationists, and many other ramifications. They don't have an identity anymore because they need to adapt the lie to the modern world and its discoveries. If it was true in the first place, it would have stayed the same.
I am a little curious. Is there any scientific proof for or against the existence of God in all your religious blabber up there? No? I didn't think so. If you are new to the forum, you can see the scientific proof that God exists here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. First post is just you making conclusions from thoughts, no evidence at all, 2nd post you said complexity is diminishing when it's not so it's just false, I stopped reading there but nice ''proof'' |
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Some people still believe that making a lot of bets is the best way to play but it's not, martingale and other strategies are garbage and take a lot of time, sure you can use bots to make it faster but you know what's faster? Making a single big bet and if you win you go home, if you lose you lose and the chances of winning or losing are exactly the same, in fact they are better than using the martingale strategy.
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Do you gamble for fun or for profit?
Both. Gambling is created for fun and for profit at the same time. It was created to give opportunity for someone who wants to multiple his/her money by just playing yet the risk must be higher so that a gambler could get more prorfit from winning the game. But most gamblers are on negative and the ones who are making profits is the gambling site owner itself thats why we can able to see there are lots of gambling sites that do exist on the market because owners or businessman do see this as a profitable venture.Yes it is fun but for me the main reasons will different on each site between the player and the owner. For players its both for fun and profits but for owners just for profit only. well if you gamble without the fun in it, then I think you're probably more prone to making rash and bad decision. pressure, regret and discontent would most likely cloud your thinking. so I agree that with gambling, its Importsnt to balance having fun and thinking about earning to have a level mind and to make decent decisions There is no bad or good decisions on a random game, you never know when you are going to win or lose therefore it's impossible to know when to stop, the ''fun'' you get from gambling is really from the money that is involved because I don't think anyone would have fun playing dice without any money involved, I mean that would be just stupid |
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Everytime the price goes up so quickly it always ends up crashing, it has already happened many times and it's happening now a bit, anyways I'm pretty sure it won't fall under 1400 or so but still, I always sell when it pumps so fast
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I do not believe in God. I do not know any scientific or reasonable evidence of his existence. On the other hand, we can never know how to make life. It's all our assumptions. Yes, we have evidence of evolution, but people are sometimes mistaken. I do not mind anyone believing in God. But I do not like organizations based on the principle of religion. This is no longer about God, but about rituals, money, and prestige.
Well actually how to produce life from non living matter is already explained and discovered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbiogenesisFrom that Wikipedia article you linked^^^: Abiogenesis is studied through a combination of paleontology, laboratory experiments and extrapolation from the characteristics of modern organisms, and aims to determine how pre-life chemical reactions gave rise to life on Earth. Did you notice the word "aims?" "Aims" means that it is not certain. Rather, science is working on it. But they can stop, because abiogenesis has been proven impossible by probability math. All you need to do to see this is take the number and kinds of atoms an molecules that make up a living cell, and figure out the odds against all of them coming together in exactly the correct places so that there is a potential cell formed. Then, add the number of motions for those atoms and molecules that would make the cell alive. Then, find a way to immediately dump the new living cell into a non-hostile environment, because the environment that would allow the chemicals to come together would immediately kill the cell. Then add the molecules and atoms that would give the cell the ability to divide, in just the right places, and with just the right motions. The odds against abiogenesis are so extremely great that it is impossible. But if it somehow happened, there is no way to keep the cell from dying on the spot. Scientists are smart. Yet, they haven't been able, with all their intelligence and abilities, to make abiogenesis happen in the lab. Why would anyone think that it could happen randomely in nature, and extend itself to become all life on earth? Which way are scientists dumber? By thinking abiogenesis could randomly happen? Or by not being able to match nature and make it happen? You basically said that it is possible. Odds are little? No problem thats why you have a very big universe where random atoms interact with other random atoms all the time, suddenly the odds don't seem that little, nice logic by the way |
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Everything you said was wrong. Starting from ''it's a fact that something can't come from nothing'' That's not a fact. The big bang theory doesn't say that the universe came from nothing, you are uneducated.
Lol, I will not even go in deep analize of what you just said, but sorry man I was kid when they teached us THAT Big Bang is beggining of known life and Universe? So basicly you are creating now new theory? Big Bang can not be start because I repeat something CAN NOT start from NOTHING. Amen. You can insult me, you can trash how you want that is fact. Tell me also one example where something starts to exist from nothing? Please, just one?? Just one man. I am waiting. Please make those facts. You have no clue how Lucky we are that we live. Its basicly miracle. With God it makes sense, but if you go back and back, we are seriously lucky that something exists at all. And that theory about hologram, please just please, like holograms can exist without logic, science and intelligence? Khm yes, who will bite into that. I will not even go in other theories. If we talk about God I believe we are created by something or someone way bigger than us. Insult is that people think we are alpha and omega in universe, because if that would be truth God help us all, and to Universe also, based how much flaws even on Earth we are not able to solve. We live even in flaw society called capitalism. Very mature for some advanced society, seriously mature. So yes I believe in God, and I pray there is something smarter than us, cause with what we are in modern age we are seriously far from some super intelligent beings. Maybe in 1000 years. I do not say I know anything, but I use logic, and God is for sure best explanation. It is also what I feel. I respect what other think, but when they argue with me, I am always ready for debate. The big bang states that the universe was created from something, not from nothing. |
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Nice dice site you have, I really like that the free bitcoin option refreshes so fast and the site works perfectly fine as well, I might try to invest although I'm not an expert on it but what do you actually gain from allowing investments?
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Wait is the decision of mine, now the price seems to gain resistance. Further if a drop happens once again at least a small pump in price can be expected. So holding seems to get better profit than just selling at the present $1850. We might soon touch $2000 per bitcoin.
I will sell if the price starts to drop fast and will sell for sure if it hits 2000$ because I'm pretty sure it will get dumped hard if it does. The hype about bitcoin made the price so high but that's nothing for long term so eventually it will drop down a few hundred dollars |
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Thanks, when is the spreadsheet updated, every week? |
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It's to my mind hard to choose correct one because both of them has bad and good side. For example in sport betting you have high chanse when team has like must to win matches and etc but worst is that in any match they will lose. For example take barca or real madrid's matches. They lost or draw when people thought they would 100% win match.
So now on dice bets, you have opportunity to verify your rolls and you have guarantee that you are playing absolutely depend on luck plus you can bet like 1.2x and similar, it's like sport bet also if we look it from another side.
It's not hard at all, in dice you will lose always long term, it's math however there are professional bettors, you can read about it if you search for: The Life of a Professional Gambler on google, sports vice has a really nice article about a guy that bets on sports and he said his weekly revenue was around 10k |
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I do not believe in God. I do not know any scientific or reasonable evidence of his existence. On the other hand, we can never know how to make life. It's all our assumptions. Yes, we have evidence of evolution, but people are sometimes mistaken. I do not mind anyone believing in God. But I do not like organizations based on the principle of religion. This is no longer about God, but about rituals, money, and prestige.
Well actually how to produce life from non living matter is already explained and discovered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis |
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Meh, every time that goes up quickly these posts and articles appear. Yeaah bitcoin will reach 3k and when it reaches 3k if it was quick articles will say it will reach 4k. Truthfully I doubt anyone has predicted bitcoin price accurately for long periods of time because it's extremely hard, it's not like fiat where traders can actually predict the price. Bitcoins are affected by many things unlike fiat where only a really big catastrophe or event would really chance the price drastically
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Stop with these, it's pointless and it has been proven that sometimes making a single bet or a single martingale sequence is better than making hundreds and hundreds of bets, you might as well just bet all your money on 5% and it would be the same as betting small amounts on a higher %. Math will always add up in the end and yes some strategies are a bit ''better'' and instead of having a 49% chance of winning you get a 49.1% but it's still meaningless.
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