I really dont understand this, will it get onto this or that exchange. Regardless of theyr volume, it is really easy for traders of any exchange to move theyr BTC from what ever exchange to the next with really no cost. so if there was someone wanting to jump over to the dark side but had a account on xyz exchange. would that not just take him 1 hr to move his BTC to mintpl or whatever and get in on the drk action. all this exhanges,volume thing baffles me .. dont get me wrong I love drk... but really does it matter? .. the thing that matters is the innovation and the belief that we put into its developers and its future.. and I believe with all my heart
Bitfinex would be the first legit DRK/USD exchange and they allow things like margin trading (for shorting ,etc.) as well. If this was just another DRK/BTC market you'd be right, but this is something that is on an entirely different level. Edit: If Cyptsy's USD market really does open in June (June is stated on their homepage) then they might by the first DRK/USD market. |
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From his history this guy is clearly an actual bitfinex customer, as opposed to a paid FUDder. We need to be able to respond to this.  As a swap provider I will immidiately withdraw all of my funds from bitfinex in case of BFX adding darkcoin to their trading platform for mainly two reasons:
1. possible legal implications already mentioned in this thread.
2. As a swap provider I cannont decide on whom I'm lending funds and what for. While I feel pretty comfortable lending out money for btc trading and grudgingly accept ltc trading I will not lend out money to people trading a 4 months old shady coin which could go down to a cent any second (auroracoin for example which has lost over 99.5 % of it's peak value). As I can not decide to whom my funds go and feel that BFX is already operating on thin ice with its theoretical swap fund insurance I have no other choice than pulling out in case of a darkcoin adding.
The offensive answer option: Darkcoin has constantly been having more volume than Litecoin. If you make them choose between you two, you have to ask yourself a question, do they hate money? World is changing, adapt or die. Well lots of vitriol there and also BTC Wall Observer thread. Is that swap provider a major revenue source? Do they have business names in finex (not sure how it works) Not necessarily directed at you, but when LTC was added was there a similar amount of resistance? It is well known that A LOT of BTC people hate alts because well... alts are by definition not BTC. |
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id rather see more posting from the dev and team about updates and ideas.
all this chatter and "mentioning of other coins" is not what miners/investors are coming here for.
this coin should be trading @ .04 today not .017
can we hear more from dev and team please.
thanks fellas!
We already know what Evan is doing -- fixing the issues we had with the last hard fork. The more time he is following the thread and posting the slower the progress on the tech side. Let him work, we always hear something at least on a weekly basis from him anyway (either here or at darkcointalk). |
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From his history this guy is clearly an actual bitfinex customer, as opposed to a paid FUDder. We need to be able to respond to this. As a swap provider I will immidiately withdraw all of my funds from bitfinex in case of BFX adding darkcoin to their trading platform for mainly two reasons:
1. possible legal implications already mentioned in this thread.
2. As a swap provider I cannont decide on whom I'm lending funds and what for. While I feel pretty comfortable lending out money for btc trading and grudgingly accept ltc trading I will not lend out money to people trading a 4 months old shady coin which could go down to a cent any second (auroracoin for example which has lost over 99.5 % of it's peak value). As I can not decide to whom my funds go and feel that BFX is already operating on thin ice with its theoretical swap fund insurance I have no other choice than pulling out in case of a darkcoin adding.
This guy is fairly ignorant and nothing can be done about those types. The legal implications are WAY overblown and nothing about DRK is shady. The guy is the typical BTC owner that hates all alts (judging by the LTC comment). I can't imagine the majority thinks like this or finex never would have been considering DRK. Anyway around it -- getting into a flame war on these forums helps nothing. If we want to help the coin on the exchange the best way is to try and get Ape to negotiate (I remember him trying with regard to BTC-e). Everything else aside. He does make a valid point about DRK's volatility -- in the past week we have seen DRK go 100% both ways. As somebody else said, for the right return there will always be somebody willing to lend. Plus getting on finex would put more of the daily volume in trader's hands (rather than the whales) which will help volatility. |
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From his history this guy is clearly an actual bitfinex customer, as opposed to a paid FUDder. We need to be able to respond to this. As a swap provider I will immidiately withdraw all of my funds from bitfinex in case of BFX adding darkcoin to their trading platform for mainly two reasons:
1. possible legal implications already mentioned in this thread.
2. As a swap provider I cannont decide on whom I'm lending funds and what for. While I feel pretty comfortable lending out money for btc trading and grudgingly accept ltc trading I will not lend out money to people trading a 4 months old shady coin which could go down to a cent any second (auroracoin for example which has lost over 99.5 % of it's peak value). As I can not decide to whom my funds go and feel that BFX is already operating on thin ice with its theoretical swap fund insurance I have no other choice than pulling out in case of a darkcoin adding.
This guy is fairly ignorant and nothing can be done about those types. The legal implications are WAY overblown and nothing about DRK is shady. The guy is the typical BTC owner that hates all alts (judging by the LTC comment). I can't imagine the majority thinks like this or finex never would have been considering DRK. Anyway around it -- getting into a flame war on these forums helps nothing. If we want to help the coin on the exchange the best way is to try and get Ape to negotiate (I remember him trying with regard to BTC-e). |
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 You want good news??
Bitfinex just decided to trade Darkcoin.sry, are we talking about this? if so, its a huge news  Bump nice Don't count your chickens yet. They've removed the stuff from the site and are saying it's just rumours. Hopefully they're still planning to add, but there's a FUD campaign going on in the bitfinex thread and elsewhere (reddit, twitter, etc.) from people claiming to be bitfinex customers trashing DRK. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438They're not going to want to add DRK if they get covered in FUD about it and how it would supposedly negatively affect bitfinex. Not sure what we should do about this. I want to answer the trolls but fear it might ramp up a flame war in the bitfinex threads, will definitely have them running for the hills. The XC guys have nothing to lose on this battlefield, they're not being considered for bitfinex. bitfinex wants a piece of the huge DRK $$$ volume. Let trolls be trolls, don't feed them. I really think that is what this comes down to. Mintpal has been making a killing off of DRK for a month... does Bitfinex want a piece of that or not? Money talks and for that reason I suspect we will be added sooner rather than later. |
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i hope this 500 btc guy doesn't try to sell all his coins after he gets his wallet recovered.. could crash the whole market  He really wouldn't -- the mintpal volume alone is more than 10 times that. @bitspender Have you checked if your coins are on the blockchain? Post the address so someone can confirm. Also the newest wallet is .11. |
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Annnnnddddd it's gone!! Bitfinex has now removed the only piece of DRK it had on it site. Not sure what that means but it's no longer there.
Did everyone just get trolled by an exchange?
Either it was an idiot employee that screwed up in a major way or they removed it because they didn't what a lot of of publicity before they actually launch the coin. Betting on the second possibility. Just seems strange for the coin's name to be anywhere near their site if they have no plans to do anything. |
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I know. I placed an order before the dump at. 011.
Now that I own some apparently Im a FUDster. lol
Dude, I watch you fight fudsters in wall observer thread. Poor choice of words and timing here. I'd say go to bed safely with your Bitcoins and government protection. Everything is fine  Yeah, I was trying to be objective and just offer an opinion. But I guess I peed on everyones parade. I'll go to bed now and wake up and see if my sell orders were hit. Pump well my friends. I kid. I kid. People are just touchy after all the XC shit. Gov't concerns are always justified but it will need to be dealt with eventually if fenix wants to expand XC or no XC -- I really think that DRK is not at the stage where gov't censorship matters. Maybe after Darksend is fully released, its anonymity publicly vetted over a period of months, and in general -- succeeds... OK then let's talk about the evil regulators. But now since it is still partly in development... it is hard to see that line of discussion as anything other than a bunch of assumptions and FUD. |
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oh, ok, i thought it was being sarcastic, i think it can easily be taken the wrong way by FUDsters.
The original one was posted by a "FUDster" and the edited one below by a DRK supporter to make fun of said "FUDster". Hence why some DRK supporters were talking about getting the bottom pic on a t-shirt, especially considering the current price rise and Bitfinex news. |
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There was a thread made for the XC vs DRK bashing. Can we please keep that confined to that thread? Thanks. Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?
What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?
darkcoin is much better for you and you should go to that thread and stay there. you will be better educated about the benefits of dark coin over there. I totally get the other coin FUDders but it makes me sad when some friends and folks I read and follow from Monero thread talking bad about Darkcoin. I love Monero and I think it will have a bright future too but sadly some senior members' disdain for Darkcoin makes me like Darkcoin even more.
You are not hearing the words coming out of my mouth. I own some DRK. I will gladly ride this train. I think its utterly stupid for Finex to add this coin.
Sneaky. Yeah, he had me fooled for a bit, but I see what is going on now.  |
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The absolute worst coin you could trade if you didn't want governments to pay attention to you is
DRK
Don't kid yourself that regulators give a damn about whether cryptos have transparent blockchains or not Look, all regulators need (look for) is an excuse. Anonymity is the perfect excuse. Up till now, regulators in the US have been pro-bitcoin because law enforcement tells them that transactional crime in crypto is actually easier to track due to the leger. DRK is a different story and can be used as a sound bite or a example of the "crackdown" if it comes. Politics = perception = reality. Lot of assumptions in this post. It doesn't make sense to pass on the money to be made by adding DRK because of paranoid assumptions. You are not hearing the words coming out of my mouth. I own some DRK. I will gladly ride this train. I think its utterly stupid for Finex to add this coin. I am hearing them and dismissing them as overly paranoid. You add the coin and make your money now -- and on the outside chance that the gov't comes a calling a year later after DRK has gone "mainstream" then you take the appropriate action. Unless you are implying that the exchange is already doing something illegal and for that reason doesn't want attention.  DRK is not even the best anonymous coin in existence.
now you're starting to sound like a troll. Yeah maybe I am wasting my time here... |
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The absolute worst coin you could trade if you didn't want governments to pay attention to you is
DRK
Don't kid yourself that regulators give a damn about whether cryptos have transparent blockchains or not Look, all regulators need (look for) is an excuse. Anonymity is the perfect excuse. Up till now, regulators in the US have been pro-bitcoin because law enforcement tells them that transactional crime in crypto is actually easier to track due to the leger. DRK is a different story and can be used as a sound bite or a example of the "crackdown" if it comes. Politics = perception = reality. Lot of assumptions in this post. It doesn't make sense to pass on the money to be made by adding DRK because of paranoid assumptions. |
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In fact, while I own some DRK, I think its a TERRIBLE decision by Finex. (ducks)
Why's that? The absolute worst coin you could trade if you didn't want governments to pay attention to you is DRK And Finex is bigger now than Stamp. I think the gov't angle is WAY WAY overplayed until there is any proof of criminals using the coin. Even then, what is wrong with privacy? The US dollar (or BTC for that matter) is/and will be used for much more illegal activity than DRK for the foreseeable future anyway. |
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In fact, while I own some DRK, I think its a TERRIBLE decision by Finex. (ducks)
Look at the volume on Mintpal. DRK has held those levels for the better part of the last month regardless of price swings. That is rare in the land of altcoins and bitfinex wants a piece. Doesn't seem too off-base to me. |
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still not many aware the reason behind this booom
Clearly not. Also, the sheer number of queries into support they are going to get regarding this development is the reason why a professionally run site that has the status of Bitfinex does not mention DRK by name unless things are basically set. Only reason this might not be true is if some hack employee added it by mistake.Confirmed by the posts above mine? |
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i guess topic op should change to |NOW ON BITFINEX TOO| NO. Don't jump the gun. Not unless and until Bitfinex confirms it first. This. I wonder how long that's been there? It may be that they planned on listing DRK after it surge to #3 in market cap and subsequent media blitz, but following the recent crash, who knows if that's still the plan. But if this news gains enough traction, they might not have much choice but to go ahead with it even if they weren't planning on it. I'm cautiously optimistic. Developments like this usually spread pretty fast on the internet so I doubt it has been up for long and DRK is heading back towards #3 spot as we speak. If bitfinex is professionally run site I don't think they put that up and mention the coin by name if something wasn't in the works. Being cautiously optimistic is fine, but I am not sure if it is warranted in this case. |
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Thanks for the open insiders Info Just stocked up some moarr.... I think folks don't realize what this means besides trading. The #1 requirement for darkmarkets to accept any crypto currency is to be able to exchange things to fiat on demand. That has kept pretty much everything besides BTC and LTC away from darknet markets. I don't normally use the crypto lingos, but prepare for liftoff. That crossed my mind but I wasn't sure until your post... thanks for the confirmation. A mainstream DRK/USD exchange -- let that sink in people. This is MASSIVE. |
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sorry, never used bitfinex. How do they rate? Has anyone here used them? What's the concensus?
It's the equivalent of Bitstamp, BTC-E. WOW!! - not a trader but this is really great news. |
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I think this is the first time I have ever said this but... guys can we chatter about the price? Really, ANYTHING is better than this absurd mudslinging. |
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