[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[smooth]

what prevents Monero from following the same fate at bytecoin? ie a $20k market cap... they have the same number of atomic units after all

Not having an 80% shady premine and absurd mining rate (2x MRO) with a two year jump from the start might have something to do with. A visible team that is working hard to develop the coin and its use might be another.

I don't believe BCN has a $20K market cap either. Where did you get that number? Back of an envelope calculation I get something like $10 million.

[sorryforthat]

Not having an 80% shady premine and absurd mining rate (2x MRO) with a two year jump from the start might have something to do with. A visible team that is working hard to develop the coin and its use might be another.
I don't believe BCN has a $20K market cap either. Where did you get that number? Back of an envelope calculation I get something like $10 million.

You love the word premine dont you smooth. Rhetoric at its finest.

[smooth]

Not having an 80% shady premine and absurd mining rate (2x MRO) with a two year jump from the start might have something to do with. A visible team that is working hard to develop the coin and its use might be another.
I don't believe BCN has a $20K market cap either. Where did you get that number? Back of an envelope calculation I get something like $10 million.

You love the word premine dont you smooth. Rhetoric at its finest.

It is what it is.

Even premines don't necessarily bother me as long as the aren't a stream of lies trying to disguise it. But the funny thing is, the more lies are told the harder it will be to keep it all straight, and eventually there will be so many inconsistencies and slips that no one will believe the scam. So I do encourage them to keep going.

[stslimited]

what prevents Monero from following the same fate at bytecoin? ie a $20k market cap... they have the same number of atomic units after all

Bytecoin has a $10 million market cap at last price on Poloniex...

You're confusing BCN with BTE. BTE has a $20k market cap, not BCN.

oh... I mean... who wouldn't?

[windjc]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

[BitcoinPLZ]

I'm trying to get started mining, but apparently you can only download simplewallet for Windows.

I have a Mac OSX computer, and am running a virtual Ubuntu 14.04

I have a pool and everything ready to go, I just need to know how I can generate a public/private key pair to mine to.  Apparently I can't just deposit to an exchange, because all the ones listed require some kind of ID code attached that I can't do with the payouts from the mining pools.  Any help?

[ErrorId]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

My take on it is this, since Darkcoin is based on Bitcoin it is operating in an already established eco system many tools that are required for it were already there and only needed some changes in code. Monero on the other hand is starting from pretty much nothing. Everything needs to be created from scratch or be heavily modified and that will take time.

The reason it's listed on few exchanges is that the volume isn't high enough for the bigger exchanges to pay someone to write the necessary code. This will of course change as Monero continues to grow.

The second part, it's not really flat. There is a slight uptrend that is going on right now, the problem that will fix itself with time is that there is a concentration of coins in the hands of people who got in early with massive hashing power, every time the price goes up a bit they unload some of their coins.

My 2 cents worth.

[David Latapie]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

I have biased knowledge but I believe I can still answer your question:
1. Completely different technology => difficult to implement on exchanges, you cannot just copy and paste another code
2. Darkcoin is four months old. Monero is one month old.

[eizh]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

The altcoin space is mostly people who watch coinmarketcap for movement and buy during pumps initiated by 'whales'. Why would the anonymity coin subspace be different? Actual properties of coins are manifested in a long-term drift in price, not daily movements. This 'flatlining' you refer to is, what, the last 2 days? Many of us sat on Darkcoin for 3-4 months before it went anywhere.

Few exchanges have adopted it because it takes work, unlike for Bitcoin-based coins where they already have everything set up. More will follow in the next few months.

[stslimited]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

someone just asked this on reddit I'll copy and paste an answer:

the anonomity feature is highly profitable
people contributing to the laundry require 1000 drk to participate, but those people also split 10% of the block reward... but blocks come in every 2.5 minutes
so on a daily basis people can make A LOT if they invest 1000 drk into a masternode server.
so not only are people buying 1000 drk at a time, they are also removing drk from the supply since they won't be so likely to sell as they are earning more dark with minimal to zero overhead costs

[PeaMine]

Just wanted to say the linux build from source was easy, very rare these days.
Thank you!

[emontmon]

^Unicorns approaching... If you are a student with access to those scientific publications payed by the university, you'll be happy to sell them for 0.005 BTC - pure profit. This web site probably was made 1-2-3 months ago or maybe yesterday?

Sigh. Why is the level of critical thinking so low in this space. If someone has an incentive to do something (say pump a coin), you can't logically believe that anything they say is actually legitimate without some kind of evidence. Talk is cheap.

Absent evidence I would assume the site didn't exist before it was posted here.

(Not directed at you equipoise, I know you agree with me.)

I find it funny that "BCN" is used, even though that's a name bitcointalk came up with 2 months ago for this 2 year old currency. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

BCN was used on bytecoin.org before the bitcointalk thread was ever created. I was aware of bytecoin before DStrange announced it and I'm pretty sure the abbreviation existed.

this is most definitely not true. dstrange started the abbreviation bcn. bytecoin changed it so that it would be differentiated from bytecoin bitcoin clone.

how can you say that bytecoin.org used it before. you were not even part of that conversation at the very beginning and that when all the cicada 3301 conspiracy was flying around. your credibility is in question.

[emontmon]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

darkcoin is much better for you and you should go to that thread and stay there. you will be better educated about the benefits of dark coin over there.

[DareC]

I just started solo mining at about 155-165 H/s. Should I be on a pool instead?

Also, is this about normal for an i7 980?

[windjc]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

someone just asked this on reddit I'll copy and paste an answer:

the anonomity feature is highly profitable
people contributing to the laundry require 1000 drk to participate, but those people also split 10% of the block reward... but blocks come in every 2.5 minutes
so on a daily basis people can make A LOT if they invest 1000 drk into a masternode server.
so not only are people buying 1000 drk at a time, they are also removing drk from the supply since they won't be so likely to sell as they are earning more dark with minimal to zero overhead costs

How many MRO will there be?

[windjc]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

darkcoin is much better for you and you should go to that thread and stay there. you will be better educated about the benefits of dark coin over there.

Lol. I'm not hyping darkcoin. I don't own any of it.

[ErrorId]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

someone just asked this on reddit I'll copy and paste an answer:

the anonomity feature is highly profitable
people contributing to the laundry require 1000 drk to participate, but those people also split 10% of the block reward... but blocks come in every 2.5 minutes
so on a daily basis people can make A LOT if they invest 1000 drk into a masternode server.
so not only are people buying 1000 drk at a time, they are also removing drk from the supply since they won't be so likely to sell as they are earning more dark with minimal to zero overhead costs

How many MRO will there be?

Around 18.4m, it's in the OP.

[windjc]

Can someone with sufficient and unbaised knowledge please explain to me why MRO is only listed on a few small exchanges and why it has basically flatlined while darkcoin has gone through the roof?

What is it that has made darkcoin so much more attractive than MRO?

someone just asked this on reddit I'll copy and paste an answer:

the anonomity feature is highly profitable
people contributing to the laundry require 1000 drk to participate, but those people also split 10% of the block reward... but blocks come in every 2.5 minutes
so on a daily basis people can make A LOT if they invest 1000 drk into a masternode server.
so not only are people buying 1000 drk at a time, they are also removing drk from the supply since they won't be so likely to sell as they are earning more dark with minimal to zero overhead costs

How many MRO will there be?

Around 18.4m, it's in the OP.

Thanks I must be blind. I read that OP a couple of times and did not see it.

Btw, I also couldn't find a forum, but so I will post this here. I am willing to buy 10BTC worth of MRO at current exchanges prices if anyone is interested. PM if you are.

[surfer43]

I just started solo mining at about 155-165 H/s. Should I be on a pool instead?

Also, is this about normal for an i7 980?

22:04 < surfer43> !calc 160
22:04 < MoneroBot> With 160 H/s you should get 1.80 MRO per Day

Looks like at the current difficulty you should get a block on average every 9 days, but of course it may be longer or shorter. If you want less variance than that at the expense of some efficiency, mine on a pool. Although cpuminer's optimizations may offset that effiency loss, not sure...

That hashrate sounds in the right range. If you're on Windows it may be slower than it would be on Linux..

[PeaMine]

I just started solo mining at about 155-165 H/s. Should I be on a pool instead?

Also, is this about normal for an i7 980?

Pretty nice hash rate for a 980.
Rare chance of getting a block in a day, but a month? It's possible, and would be very $$$ if so.