ah ok...now you got Zyk by his balls....  to take irony serious is the worst and most embarrassing pain...even more so if it is due to his limited english skills  Laywers is still wrong IMHO...try to take Maged back a bit...cause its Don Shrents way which gets back the most coins for the most people... Lets keep up the good work and follow the truthful trails before involving squeezy sleasy folks... Thanks Zyk |
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no offence to zyk, but he can hardly string an english sentence together, so i doubt he wrote the above passage.
You have to admit. This pretty much sums up the better part of your ramblings. As I have said previously, I enjoy and appreciate your enthusiasm, but I sincerely beg and plead for you to find a new web translator to use. The Zykooglish joke is old, it was funny for about 5 minutes......yet here we are, STILL. Thats a compliment..is it? cause I wrote the stuff above.... problem is there are still hardly people to find in this "funny" case, who can follow a string of stringent thoughts and thats what would be needed to understand zykloogish... Cheers Zyk |
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My uncle is a prominent lawyer in international business law, based in Germany but he has been in american courts often. I will have a chat with him and after explaining him the concept of bitcoin, he might be able to give a qualified answer on how the chances are of getting the coins back, if there even is a chance...
There is a chance but only if shop is opened, payb.tc gets back his senses and thoroughly studies zykloogish. Thanks Zyk |
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@bitlane Yep you`d need to be puzzeled , if i would think you as Canadian going down south againin in the land of the screwed just to beat up a twen. Couldnīt imagine, only if it would be far south to the beaches where youīd look at handling your cute collateral Cheers Zyk |
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The ponzi theory is just one of two good theories that fit the evidence, and the other theory, if true, explains that he is most likely to return the funds and also may explain his lack of communication at this point. He may actually have a good reason for being quiet even if he has the best of intentions.
Care to explain the second of the two theories? Oh fuck, again hijacked by speculators  But thats it bitlane, am not accusing you but rather sucking your cock while considering you the smart - ass under pirates lenders. Cheers Zyk P.S.sorry, will try hard myself to stop that and just wait for the Goat cartel to contribute some facts!! |
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BrightAnarchist is leading the charge on the attack on Pirate. Please contact him and forward all evidence to him.
Thank you.
I don't like to call it an "attack" as that's not what I'm doing. I still feel that most likely he is going to pay. The ponzi theory is just one of two good theories that fit the evidence, and the other theory, if true, explains that he is most likely to return the funds and also may explain his lack of communication at this point. He may actually have a good reason for being quiet even if he has the best of intentions. I'm trying to be civil here, hence why I created my own thread to express my intentions more clearly. I am simply gathering information and legal advice so we can determine exactly what our recourse will be if it becomes clear that he's going to run with the coins, but so far I still do not believe that is what his intentions are. That said, I'm not afraid to pull the trigger on this if/when we decide it is absolutely neccessary. The first step would simply be to send a demand letter. I'm just trying to keep a level head here and do the right thing. Btw thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108657Seemingly the brightest of the Antichrists got me on ignore before even reading the first post Personally I feel that Pirate will pay back every last BTC. I just joined the forum back in April and it seemed that everyone was one big happy family at first and then all of a sudden the FUD against Pirate absolutely exploded to the point where it seems people are spending their entire day on this forum warning others about the dangers of the "Pirate Ponzi". Think about it - why are people devoting so much of their time and energy worrying about other people's money for absolutely nothing in return? The only explanation I can think of is that this is some sort of psyops that was put into action to try to discredit Bitcoin and contain its rise.
Classic! I must quote this too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndromeVladimir, thank you very much for the link sir - I am ashamed by my ignorance. Here I was thinking that the Stockholm Syndrome referred to when a hostage begins to look kindly upon their captor, but you have taught me that it can also refer to when one has faith and trust in an individual who graciously allowed them to share in their business venture and made them fistfuls of cash in the process .... You are intellectually lazy, bitsire. Is it that difficult to make a connection from people being held hostage to people's money being held hostage? Do I really need to explain you the obvious? No need to spell it out for me - I totally see your point and understand the symbolism. Pirate is like my captor, but instead of taking me against my will I voluntarily walked into his house (ignoring the fact that there was a cube van with a heart shaped window parked out front). Next, instead of tying me up and bum blasting me in the basement, he showered me with cash and told me that I was free to go at any time. However, being the greedy piggy that I am, I stayed until he finally ran out of bills. Now I'm sitting in his living room waiting for him to get back from the bank. Before he left he told me where he was going and how long it would take, but even though he calls every now and then to let me know he's on his way home, deep down I realize he's on a flight to the Lady Boy Palace in Thailand and ain't never coming back. You are all intellectually lazy....by writing nice pitoresque and fabulous stories smoking and mirroring the crime scene which was hertofore born out of a community spirit with OTC Ratings and personal trust.....from there on pirate started.....may be still proud of his own reputation...went down the slippery slope of a celebrity......applauded by the colluders ( yes all those perpetrators off the same ponzi with the oldest accounts), feeded by coins and coins he couldnīt even attach a buiseness model to.........and spiraled BTC from uselessness after the last crash to a ponzi currency...whichīs sole purpose is to skin off the newbies to the scene....and then and thats what takes so long right now...who is allowed to run off with which percentage of the stolen funds!? There wonīt be any bitcoincommunity left, if BCST is not closed in a transparent way, where the " buiiseness model " is disclosed and common sense applied in the aftermaths !! There is no one fell swoop of payment coming.......so what is the payout order???The stance in the justness of this technality seperates the criminals from the patsys and the victims! May some discussion begin....in community spirit where common christian values are applied. Thanks for listening Cheers Zyk P.S. Bitcoin should be managed as the new world reserve currency ponzi....not as a mining pool chain letter
than ruminating Zyks speculations from a months ago?
Facts please !
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It's now time to let your PPT OP 'down from his cross' and allow him/her/it to DEFEND the integrity of this community. Thats how it should be defended by you and payb.tc :As bitcoinmax always stated, your coins are lost !, as Trendon Shavers shaves us all. In case the defaulted entity BCST is assuming its liabilities to bitcoinmax or pays out any amount to bitcoinmax, all principal investments are payed back evenly up to the amount deposited. The gained interest of all accounts is put in escrow until further notice. If bitcoinmax liabilities to you are not fully covered by this proceedure and in case BCST pays zilch, i payb.tc, will pact with bitlane to recover what is being able to recover from Trendon Shavers. The interest which i accrued during operation of bitcoinmax up to date is given back to recover your principal investments. As far as it stands, pirate has not option neither right to get your data or information through my hands. Seeing forward to provide further investment possibilities to you in the future. Please comment Yours sincerely.......... to be clear: i am not the author of the above text, and don't know who is. I added some bolding because it gets lost, but basically, he was giving you your statement. no offence to zyk, but he can hardly string an english sentence together, so i doubt he wrote the above passage. hence, i still don't know who the author is. Of course you know ! That was again me.......i even put it for angloamerican lecturing ! Cheers Zyk |
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BrightAnarchist is leading the charge on the attack on Pirate. Please contact him and forward all evidence to him.
Thank you.
I don't like to call it an "attack" as that's not what I'm doing. I still feel that most likely he is going to pay. The ponzi theory is just one of two good theories that fit the evidence, and the other theory, if true, explains that he is most likely to return the funds and also may explain his lack of communication at this point. He may actually have a good reason for being quiet even if he has the best of intentions. I'm trying to be civil here, hence why I created my own thread to express my intentions more clearly. I am simply gathering information and legal advice so we can determine exactly what our recourse will be if it becomes clear that he's going to run with the coins, but so far I still do not believe that is what his intentions are. That said, I'm not afraid to pull the trigger on this if/when we decide it is absolutely neccessary. The first step would simply be to send a demand letter. I'm just trying to keep a level head here and do the right thing. Btw thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108657Yes, This is why BA is taking the lead so far:) He is more calm and reasonable than I am. And yes it is not an "attack". But the goal is to have coins recovered/returned  Sorry for being so dramatic. No worries mate The mentioned thread is still closed ! Are you using "Zyk ignorance" for the next cover up  Bitlane needs another wingflap I guess Who is "we" and "they" ? Post your IRC chatter!! What is written in the letter ? Whats the name of the laywer? Who pays the laywer ? What data has been collected? And mates ....Do you really believe in bitcointalk.org everybody is braindead ? no worries yet? Cheers Zyk |
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Make him open his thread for public scrutiny and tell where he leads what and whom?
Exactly this. There's a guy calling himself BrightAnarchist and he's so afraid of anarchy in his thread he locks it up. How does this even compute? There is on open thread. It was my thread and twice now 2/3 of the posts were deleted by mods. Lots of people think going after pirate is a bad idea. Some people are trying to say dont go after pirate cuz he is a ponzi. P4man was leading the pirate defense. BA does not want all that off topic stuff there so he left it out. Its a post on how to collect evidence. If you want to know the next step just ask me. The next step I think will be sending a letter to pirate formally asking for the money back. I think the lawyer is right on having us do this. We are not however going after hashking or imsaguy as neither one of us have btc with them. however i do wish you the best of luck. Goat you have my full support and i will donate BTC.
Whether people supported pirate or screamed from the rooftops that he was a ponzi, everyone should support this.
If scammers start to face real life justice we will start to see less and less of them in BTC land.
That can only be a good thing for everyone ( and the price of BTC ).
No. Sending one penny to the conspirators who worked with pirate to rip off $5,000,000 of other people's money is exactly the opposite of what anyone should do. +100 Anyone who still has any faith in this cabal should have their heads checked. Its like the getaway driver investigating the bank robbery. How about you do a big public apology first to all the people that warned you, but that you have been shouting down and insulting for over 6 months and more importantly, to the people who trusted your judgement, but that you misled by pretending you knew more than you really did?
The same goes for the rest of the pirate promo team who are now all pretending to be only victims fighting for the righteous cause.
I'll chip in my ill gotten BTC2 when you all are ready.
You do realize the first thing Goat will consult a lawyer about, is his OWN liability for promoting and facilitating a fraudulent ponzi operation, right? Why do you think he is still pretending its unsure if pirate really ran a ponzi? Goats first concern is not getting your coins back, its keeping his own ass out of trouble, and if that would mean letting Pirate off the hook, you can bet those 2BTC that he will. This is what P4man said ! So Goat....there you can see it for yourself that your excuses are lame and dishonest ( not one word about not going after pirate!) and again involved in cheerleading the idiots to the cliffs. Alright....the only thing that stands out again, is that you promise and then cheat ! Of course not liking that others point out the truth in ADVANCE: COME ON JUST ANSWER TO RID YOU OF WELL DESERVED SUSPICION Thanks Zyk |
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Make him open his thread for public scrutiny and tell where he leads what and whom?
Exactly this. There's a guy calling himself BrightAnarchist and he's so afraid of anarchy in his thread he locks it up. How does this even compute? There is on open thread. It was my thread and twice now 2/3 of the posts were deleted by mods. Lots of people think going after pirate is a bad idea. Some people are trying to say dont go after pirate cuz he is a ponzi. P4man was leading the pirate defense. BA does not want all that off topic stuff there so he left it out. Its a post on how to collect evidence. If you want to know the next step just ask me. The next step I think will be sending a letter to pirate formally asking for the money back. I think the lawyer is right on having us do this. We are not however going after hashking or imsaguy as neither one of us have btc with them. however i do wish you the best of luck. Again : Who is us ? Whats the name of the laywer ? To what adress is what letter content sent ? Having plurality of opinions, even as dicussions seem weird to the simple mods souls is why bitcoin.org in its entirety is the A - Team and pirate was part of it up to the closure of his thread and the beginning of all shit on IRC !!! Do you remember? Cheers Zyk P. S. @ greyhawk : the Anarchist is rather breit than bright |
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Would it not be reasonable for payb.tc to talk to pirates lawyer
I personally believe he has none and neither needs nor wants one. But if anybody knows pirate's lawyer, it would be a good idea to contact him quickly to make sure first that he exists. Why has that not happened yet? Pirate has said he would give that information last Friday. Pirate however did not give that information. I personally would like to talk with Pirates lawyer Why donīt you just get you one, when thinking of playing your hand, instead of twiddeling thumps? He may still doesnīt even need to waste some of the loot for a laywer, as the PPT OPīs are still circelling around panic- hoarded coins and themselves ---good luck to the goats--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8DwwCheers Zyk P.S, pirates english is less butchered than zykloogish? So here we are again : Goat and his laywers .......Now, he teams up with BA instead of pirate in IRC..... Their laywers are not your laywers neither payb.tcīs are....please donīt forget your own common sense. Cheers Zyk |
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BrightAnarchist is leading the charge on the attack on Pirate. Please contact him and forward all evidence to him.
Thank you.
Make him open his thread for public scrutiny and tell where he leads what and whom? As long as I canīt see whats is collected for whom and by whom to which aims everybody should better suppose that there again sheeples will be lead to the slaughterhouse !!! Boycott every attempts to loose the claims on your coins without knowing what is done with them!!!!!!!!! Learn of your mistakes ........ it has been exactly that.....trust Goat in cheerleading and you`ll be fucked in the end!!! Thanks for your brains Zyk |
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Payb.tc, I for one, wouldn't mind throwing a few BTC your way to put something together where only the people who elect to give Pirate their information gets passed on. It would have to be contingent on a few things though. If Pirate paid only those accounts, only those accounts would be paid out and the people that chose to not give information would have to wait until further action is taken and their BTC are refunded. There would also need other people to throw BTC in.
The other thing we could do is put together a list and have you sign off on it as accurate and we can forward it on to Pirate. I know this was done before but I'm not sure it was ever verified by you before it was forwarded.
Also, given the fact that BitcoinMax's userbase is so large, I would imagine if everyone threw in a little there would surely be enough to get a lawyer involved and pay for payb.tc's time.
I can state with 100% acuracy that it was not signed off by payb.tc. I highly doubt it would help but if paybtc wants access to the list I will give it to him, as stated in my orig thread. payb.tc: how much btc would you need to check this list, sign it and pass it to pirate? BrightAnarchist is collecting this information to give to lawyers and maybe LEA. If you would like please pass it on top him. We are trying to collect coin back. Name your laywers, tell us which part of LEA you informed, get transparent finally and stop hididing your IRC machinations from puplic scrutiny !! Take care people, especially you payb.tc, they can fuck you over with this data ! Who the fuck is they beside BA and Goat ? There are a lot of divergent interests in this.....donīt let them again tell you to waste another 6 weeks because thats not in your but in stalling tactics interests and maybe in some laywers interest. In this alone, payb.tc, doing nothing before it is explained to accountholders is the right stance !! Cheers Zyk |
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Payb.tc, I for one, wouldn't mind throwing a few BTC your way to put something together where only the people who elect to give Pirate their information gets passed on. It would have to be contingent on a few things though. If Pirate paid only those accounts, only those accounts would be paid out and the people that chose to not give information would have to wait until further action is taken and their BTC are refunded. There would also need other people to throw BTC in.
The other thing we could do is put together a list and have you sign off on it as accurate and we can forward it on to Pirate. I know this was done before but I'm not sure it was ever verified by you before it was forwarded.
Also, given the fact that BitcoinMax's userbase is so large, I would imagine if everyone threw in a little there would surely be enough to get a lawyer involved and pay for payb.tc's time.
I can state with 100% acuracy that it was not signed off by payb.tc. I highly doubt it would help but if paybtc wants access to the list I will give it to him, as stated in my orig thread. payb.tc: how much btc would you need to check this list, sign it and pass it to pirate? BrightAnarchist is collecting this information to give to lawyers and maybe LEA. If you would like please pass it on top him. We are trying to collect coin back. Oh my ....We have been there 4 weeks ago already.....Pirate ainīt even found.......keep your data at our chairman ! Cheers Zyk |
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My deposit of 50 BTC is also due in a few days, I'll report when it gets paid.
Nobody will get paid anything anymore, if trust is not restored in a communitywide concerted effort to get a hold on pirates accounting !!!! Contribute or get lost PEOPLE !!! As Mick Jagger shouts it from the stage ! Cheers Zyk |
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Hey Don, take care of your thread.......the public needs infos......if bored just phantasize what you got up your sleeves.....if its not cocks please may you think of a way to block all efforts of the IRC cartel.....which surely is not in everybodyīs or the communitys interest....be careful! Do you need funds to let somebody do some leg- work to snuff out where Trendon actually is located? Can you ask the father, where you could contact him to resolve everything in bitlanes interests? ---sorry that was a really a bad joke-- Just eating a pitzza together or getting hold of some accounting of him would be nice----ask him if he really want to fuck up his life for all future time....as bitcointalk.org is the future goverment of the world or if he just can think of telling the true story and might be helped by us in court in November? Come on lets have some action, news and popcorn ! See ya all tomorrow Cheers Zyk |
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I said it once and I will say it again..... We should hire:  We are the A - team ! but not on IRC ...there is the - 9000 team and have ever been the manipulators of free human will !! Cheers Zyk |
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It was a picture of (I believe) Trendon's nephew Landon taken from Trendon's mother's facebook page with some text overlayed on it. I know if it was a picture of my son I'd be pretty pissed, but then again I haven't stolen US$5M.
Has anyone actually filed a police report on this yet? Get proceedings underway so there at least seems to be progress, before this goes really sideways and someone here goes nuts and burns out Pirate's eye and cuts off his leg below the knee.
Fuck you...use your brains on this....we are the community he has defrauded and we have got the means to get to the truth of that matter.....the police will in no way return those coins to the rightful owners! Keep calm, Don Shrents made a huge step forward......wait for him to get personal contact to pirate...in good cop - bad cop strategie with the family and then focus one last time your residually existant braincapacity to decipher where the funds came from and where they are now! Am still faithful that bitcoin can take the clock back to justice....if not .....no future for this shit!!! Good night Zyk |
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I don't think that the act of running a pass-through, by itself, is scamming, as long as the pass-through details and risks were disclosed appropriately. I disagree. Running a PPT was paying Pirate to make you and your investors the recipients of obviously fraudulent transfers of other people's money. If that's not scamming, what is? But as I've said elsewhere, I'm willing to give PPT operators who aren't on record as saying they knew or suspected it was a Ponzi a free pass this one time. But in the future, I will be holding people to a higher standard. Been tented to give you a lot of +++++ for that. But they , at least in the case of bitcoinmax are still running ponzis themselves........if you see the facts, "Running a PPT was paying Pirate to make you and your investors the recipients of obviously fraudulent transfers of other people's money. If that's not scamming, what is?" am really completly shocked about your itellectual corruptness and ignorance to make those other people whole again. Intellectual abetter and abider of theft iīd call it. Of course you canīt see your own prostata to be incontinent this time again Oh my Zyk |
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