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4601  Other / Meta / Re: If site turns out scam,is the signature campaign manager to blame? on: January 17, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
He is to blame if he knew the site was a scam beforehand, I remember a mod that was participating in the cloudthink or some cloud ponzi signature campaign and someone made a post here on Meta to kick him out of the staff position and everyone agreed, he took the signature down.
He was dsserano5, he too wasn't given a negative nor removed from staff, and is currently the part of DefaultTrust level 1.

Only because he was already a staff member, people hesitated to give him negative trust and because he also stopped advertising the scam company, I'm sure if he continued, he would have gotten a negative rating, eventually... But as I said, if the campaign manager knows about the scam, then he is a bad person and basically a scammer himself.
4602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Paid to gamble on: January 17, 2016, 06:06:12 PM
It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that
Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..
We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.
I am good at creating demand for products, that's all.
There's no tricks here. Everything is legit Smiley

I'm going to add more games, which means more people will be coming on the site. That means more ad revenue (and faucet balance).



Hmm, yes but I, for example, have used the faucet and played the game for an a hour and I was able to make almost 5000 credits and that's only using 1 credit as initial bet, I can't imagine what would happen when someone can bet more, he could use a bot and get a net profit of 20k-50k per hour depending on luck and initial bet, I don't see how you are going to be able to cope with that but hey if you can, congratulations. As I said the site is pretty cool because of the +EV games.
4603  Other / Meta / Re: Signature campaign on the new forum? on: January 17, 2016, 06:03:03 PM
I hope that theymos will remove or limit the signature space for a few months, just a little test to see how things will change (less spam, more constructive contents).

Really doubt that would happen, but it would be nice to see. I get paid a flat rate regardless of posts and wish all campaigns were like that. I would be good with no more campaigns around here. It is a shame so many abuse them because they are a good idea and are effective for advertisers. I guess the issue is to some people it is a lot of money so they abuse it to get paid.


Well, you see, the signature campaigns are not really the problem. People abusing them create the problems and I always said that stricter rules should be applied to signature campaign participants. The spam would eventually be lower if every signature spammer gets banned, unfortunately right now, that's not the case. You can find blatantly obvious spammers in the off-topic section or games and rounds.
4604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Paid to gamble on: January 17, 2016, 02:24:25 PM
It still puts the gambling addiction in you. So later in the future you will be more likely to deposit and play.

Well, OP already said his site does not allow users to deposit and also will never allow deposits. BTW, I do agree with the others that the site should be classified as a gambling site, as it is pretty much like someone going to PD and only playing with the faucet money.

Yeah in the end you will get ban from them because of abuse their faucet. Btw if deposit is never allow on this site I dont think it will never called gambling then because you dont really use your money to do things just like faucet that give you 500 sat each hour or something like that
Why would I ban someone?

Isn't it normal that someone who "abuses" (by using bots/multiple accounts) gets banned?

This is just like those app on game store , free digital money for you to play and you can buy free digital money with real money ..
We don't sell any credits.

I tried it and it's really cool but as people level up and are able to bet more, won't you end up loosing way too much money? I mean I know you have ad revenue but it's not going to be enough, I still feel like there is some kind of trick that you are not telling people.
4605  Other / Meta / Re: i don't think that this kind of act could be tolerated. on: January 17, 2016, 02:20:48 PM
reminder: i added up those quotation for reference/real examples only.

first of all, a random account is opened today, then opened a scam accusation thread against me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1330754.0
second, it talks about the rep loan, matter. it is valid but did not state any reason and the point that figures out if i am a scammer.
third, after a few hours he opened a thread, he started to post the stuff below to threaten me.


Lick my big cock you pathetic Hong kock 13 year old bitch

wtf are you doing? you open a thread just for kicks? you are more likely a gay, and yet you are attempting to violate the bitcoin forum rule, and probably use them to evade the ban in case. if you accuse me like this, you are not seriously accusing against me, no matter your evidence is valid or not. you are trolling against me. Sad

i have reported that post once for harassing, and jokingly opening a scam accusation to troll against me, and completely zero value (only on the quote above).


second, although this comes to a hero member, i doubt that he is threaten me, starting from this quote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1323765.msg13580613#msg13580613

i accused that guy to be scamming, however he was still aggressively stating that his "scam" is his business, before that matter, he replied "I didn't scam anyone you piece of shit." while "didn't scam anyone" is confirmed false, and then threatened me that someone would accuse against me of being alt of him - explicitly trolling.



main point is, what happened to the people? are those cases legitimately tolerated? for the first one, i even suspect that if someone created an alt to  evade the ban in case. in general, they did the similar this which is baseless threatening. any point that they are not breaking the rule?

You have nothing to worry about now. The thread has already been deleted or the account was deleted.

knew it, buddy. but i am not sure if the same thing is gonna happen against me or others.

But who cares anyways about a newbie with 0 posts talking shit? Is it going to affect you in any way? Of course not, why don't you just ignore it and focus on the negative trust you already have.
4606  Other / Meta / Re: If site turns out scam,is the signature campaign manager to blame? on: January 17, 2016, 02:18:30 PM
He is to blame if he knew the site was a scam beforehand, I remember a mod that was participating in the cloudthink or some cloud ponzi signature campaign and someone made a post here on Meta to kick him out of the staff position and everyone agreed, he took the signature down.
4607  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: January 16, 2016, 10:30:30 PM
Don't let the bitcoin stagnant in your wallet, let it have some transactions. If bitcoins are stagnant the prices will go down someday.

If we just hold bitcoin in our wallet and do not use it, the bitcoin will be useless, so the price will go down eventually.

Supply and demand: the market requires change and transactions to grow.

By not using the bitcoins, you restrict the amount of trading that goes about. If everyone were to stop, then the price would drop down straight to 0.
No demand.

Maybe we first hold most bitcoin and trade with small amount of coins. When the market can absorb more coins, we will hold less and release more coins to the circulation.

no, you need to use bitcoin directly, so the market do not need to absorb anything, and you can benefict it indirectly, for your other remained coins

The more useful the bitcoin, the more value it has. We need to use the bitcoin directly, we should not sell it on exchanges.
I think  that sell is a type of using bitcoins, whats the difference of exchange  with other ways of using?

how so, if you don't sell but use bitcoin to buy stuff you want, you don't dump which result in less pressure on the market

you are helping your other coins to grow in this way, since demand will be stronger

Not really. Demand is not going to be stronger because you buy things with bitcoin, demand goes up when a big business implements bitcoin as a payment option, for example, then the demand goes up because people can buy things with bitcoins that they couldn't before.

less pressure means indirectly better demand you know, the same "demand" is more willing to increase the value of the coins if there was less pressure on the market, because it means that those that are selling are few people and they are willing to sell at higher value

What? What pressure, what are you talking about. I don't see how the market would change because I boughta pizza with my bitcoins right now, you mean the seller would try to sell for higher price? I'm pretty sure the pizza dealer would dump his coins just as fast when there is a dump going on because he owns a business and he can't afford to lose coins.
4608  Economy / Services / Re: [Unitaco.com] ★ Signature Campaign ★ Upto 0.0008/p on: January 16, 2016, 09:26:42 PM
Stop begging for escrow on signature campaigns with weekly payments. You either take the risk or you don't. If you don't already have a campaign and you join this, don't cry if you don't get paid. You're posting, so be grateful that people even get paid to post on this forum. Just wait the 7 days, if you get paid - fine. If not, just leave. No one forces you to join a campaign, it's your own decision. Besides, if you post just for a signature campaign you deserve not to get paid.

This is a late response. Yeah you are right, weekly campaigns don't really need escrow and with what happened to master-p, it seems like you are never safe anyways.
4609  Economy / Gambling / Re: Dice gambling method #1 - Use wisely. on: January 16, 2016, 09:23:11 PM
Another gambling "method", how lovely.

I suggest you stay away from this, no strategies work in gambling, it's a game of pure chance and luck, take care.

Then why are you suggesting us to stay away from this strategy like it's going to matter, it's not like this strategy is going to make you lose all your money in the first roll, I have seen worse strategies than this.
4610  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price fall I need to sell now on: January 16, 2016, 09:20:39 PM
People who complain about this kind of stuff are obviously amateurs or bad traders. A good trader can ALWAYS benefit from any movement in the market, if the price goes down, sell fast and buy cheap, simple as that, I made tons of cheap coins buying at 350, now it's at 380 and that's already a 30$ benefit for each bitcoin in a matter of hours.
4611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price? Who is making it? on: January 16, 2016, 06:31:02 PM
Because if one exchange had bitcoin worth 200$ and other had bitcoin worth 500$ then everyone would go to the first one buy bitcoins there and then go to the second one and sell for 500, giving 300$ profit for every bitcoin for free. There is no way that's going to happen, I mean why would someone sell bitcoins for 200$ if he knows there is a place where he can sell for 500$?
4612  Economy / Gambling / Re: Dice gambling method #1 - Use wisely. on: January 16, 2016, 06:28:23 PM
There are ''real methods'' that work better than others and can even increase your odds but just a little, Dooglus used an example: 

  ''For an example of a better strategy, try:

  bet 0.5 at 33%
  if you win, you get 99/33 = 3x, so you get 1.5 back, a profit of 1 - you've doubled your money

  if you lose, bet the other 0.5 at 24.75%
  if you win, you get 99/24.75 = 4x, so you get 2 back - you've doubled your money

  the only way it goes wrong is if you lose both the 33% and the 24.75% - the chance of that is (1-0.33) * (1-0.2475) = 0.504175
  so the chance of success is 1 - 0.504175 = 0.495825 = 49.5825% - a fraction higher than 49.5''

As you can see, you are literally increasing your odds to 49.58 instead of 49.5 but of course that's still not enough to win long term but definitely better long term than this strategy.
4613  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: January 16, 2016, 06:24:21 PM
Don't let the bitcoin stagnant in your wallet, let it have some transactions. If bitcoins are stagnant the prices will go down someday.

If we just hold bitcoin in our wallet and do not use it, the bitcoin will be useless, so the price will go down eventually.

Supply and demand: the market requires change and transactions to grow.

By not using the bitcoins, you restrict the amount of trading that goes about. If everyone were to stop, then the price would drop down straight to 0.
No demand.

Maybe we first hold most bitcoin and trade with small amount of coins. When the market can absorb more coins, we will hold less and release more coins to the circulation.

no, you need to use bitcoin directly, so the market do not need to absorb anything, and you can benefict it indirectly, for your other remained coins

The more useful the bitcoin, the more value it has. We need to use the bitcoin directly, we should not sell it on exchanges.
I think  that sell is a type of using bitcoins, whats the difference of exchange  with other ways of using?

how so, if you don't sell but use bitcoin to buy stuff you want, you don't dump which result in less pressure on the market

you are helping your other coins to grow in this way, since demand will be stronger

Not really. Demand is not going to be stronger because you buy things with bitcoin, demand goes up when a big business implements bitcoin as a payment option, for example, then the demand goes up because people can buy things with bitcoins that they couldn't before.
4614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core contributors - Mike Mike Hearn Six years on: January 16, 2016, 06:22:36 PM
if anyone if changing his mind because of an ex google employee who wrote some code for bitcoin, he should leave bitcoin too  Roll Eyes

This! ^^^^^ Nice reading posts from people that get it! Cheesy

It's basically because traders start dumping when they hear news like that because they think other people would sell too and the price is going down but the truth is that no one has to sell at all and if no one sold, well the price wouldn't go down obviously. It's like an infinite loop
4615  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is DEAD... on: January 16, 2016, 06:21:03 PM
The price only dropped just over 10%, how are people speculating its dead !!!!

I want bitcoin do drop 90% so i can buy more !! even then it won't be dead

it depend if it drop to 90% for 1 day only, maybe it can still recover, if it is for too long it will be died yes, since basically any big farm is forced to shut down

which mean that a random dude, that before was struggling to get anything with his poor hash, can attack the network easily

Bitcoin will never die unless everyone stops mining, bitcoin regulates itself, price drops, mining difficulty drops and viceversa, only if everyone stopped mining bitcoin would be truly dead, otherwise it's not. Not even if it's worth 1$. A few years ago bitcoin was worth that amount and people were using it with no problems.
4616  Other / Meta / Re: Signature campaign on the new forum? on: January 16, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
They will definitely keep is it. Otherwise this forum would be so empty. Most people on this forum wear a signature.

That's not true, most people were already here before the sig boom and if you look at sig campaigns they all have 100 people at most, so in total there are like, what? 1k people with signatures? Not even counting alt accounts. You probably think a lot of people use them because they are spamming everywhere, specially in sections like gambling but the forum would be just fine without them.
4617  Other / Archival / Re: Theymos you have 48 hours on: January 16, 2016, 03:32:13 PM
There's a script to find "similar-style-writting", i mean, the software/script used with QS and other members, the last year.
According to what I know, the QS alts reveal was not based on similarity between posts, he's like a different persona with a different writing style on every account. It was pre-determined by tsp due to some other stuff QS forgot hiding that lead to finding out of his alts.
Anyway, pretty sure the "script" would need at least 100s of post input to determine anything useful, if it does work that is.

The script won't even work with 50% of people here since most of them have a really bad english and I'm sure that script would identify a lot of people as being the same when in reality they are just other people.

By the way I saw a post on reddit asking theymos to leave the reddit bitcoin administration and it had quite a lot of upvotes.
4618  Economy / Services / Re: [Unitaco.com] ★ Signature Campaign ★ Upto 0.0008/post on: January 14, 2016, 10:32:12 AM
Would like to join

Posts: 537

Btc address: 1CMy2K2mxzW5k4skxZmwaH1Cnk8auBjLKw

Rank: Sr.member
4619  Economy / Services / Re: YABTCL.com Signature Campaign 35 Slots 0.00035 - 0.0015 per post on: December 28, 2015, 11:20:12 AM
I understand the campaign is going to be weekly now, can you update OP and tell us when it starts?
4620  Economy / Services / Re: YABTCL.com Signature Campaign 35 Slots 0.00035 - 0.0015 per post on: December 27, 2015, 06:55:20 PM
I will be reviewing all the inquires today.

Best regards.

So..? Why does it say I have 0 posts? Am I going to get paid?
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