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4641  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: High transfer fee? on: May 18, 2016, 07:06:42 PM
11,732 bytes with 120k satoshi as transaction fee is sufficient enough IMHO. i suggest you to stop using greenaddress and use mycelium or electrum as you can save some coins on fees there and you have full control over your private keys

Unless GreenAddress does a poor job of figuring out the right fee, then switching wallets won't make a difference. An 11kB transaction is huge. You will not be able to avoid high fees if you continue to receive many very small payments.

https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ currently recommends a fee of 0.0007 BTC per kb, so an 11kB transaction should have a fee of 0.0077 BTC.
4642  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you expect from the halving in 2016? on: May 17, 2016, 10:49:07 PM

In other view, we have the year 2013 ... for a good example of an halving.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1406951.msg14273356#msg14273356

Also consider the Litecoin halving last year:

4643  Economy / Speculation / Re: That's it, $440 was the bottom. on: May 17, 2016, 04:05:37 PM
Bye bye $440's.

$440 is the bottom until it is not.
4644  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: Bitcoin Halving. Will Price go up or price go down? on: May 17, 2016, 04:00:55 PM
...btc supply swll be half...
... with decrease in supply. ...
... there will be less bitcoin supply. ...

The supply will not decrease with the halving. Surely, you can't believe that the supply is less now than before the previous halving four years ago, or that there will be no bitcoins for sale when the subsidy goes to 0 in 2140.

The money supply increases with every block, whether the block reward is 25 btc or 12.5 btc. More money available means more bitcoins for sale.

My prediction is that the upcoming Bitcoin halving will look just like the Litecoin halving last year: a speculative bubble that pops just before the halving, followed by a long period of very slowly rising prices.
4645  Economy / Digital goods / Re: SILENT C# MINER on: May 17, 2016, 08:02:02 AM
This software is probably malware, but even if it isn't, it will still take 200 years to mine $50 worth of bitcoin on your PC.
4646  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Secret Information via Blockchain? on: May 16, 2016, 09:14:25 PM
A small amount of information can be stored in the block chain using an OP_RETURN transaction.
4647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: electricity consuption for 1 bitcoin on: May 16, 2016, 09:05:48 PM
The calculation for cost per bitcoin is actually very simple. The theoretical revenue (in bitcoins) per block is

R * H * 600 * 65535 / 248 / D

where R is the block reward, H is the miner's hash rate, and D is the difficulty.


First, we calculate the energy expended per bitcoin. You can derive the theoretical hashes per bitcoin:

D / R / 65535 * 248

So, energy per bitcoin is:

e * D / R / 65535 * 248

where e is joules/hash.

If you are using an S7 (0.25 J/GH), then your energy/bitcoin today is:

(0.25/1000000000) * 194254820283 / 25 / 65535 * 248 = 8.34 GJ per bitcoin

The cost per bitcoin is simply that times the cost per joule. Assuming $0.10 per kWh, your cost per bitcoin today is:

(0.10/1000/3600) * 8.3 * 1000000000 = $231.76 per bitcoin


4648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Halving - here's the math on: May 16, 2016, 04:22:03 AM
The prediction of halving dates is based on an average block time of 10 minutes. So far the block time is almost all <10 min. Therefore the estimate of 2140 will come earlier if bitcoin keep on growing.

isn't this related to the manner in which the difficulty target is recalculated, as defined by the developers ? am I correct in understanding that if the 10 minutes average is to be brought down, some change will need to be done to the code that recalculates the difficulty every 2160 blocks ?

The difficulty computation assumes that the expected hash rate for the next 2160 blocks is the same as the hash rate for the last 2160 blocks. So, if the actual hash rate is higher then blocks will be found more quickly than expected, and if it is lower then blocks will be found more slowly than expected. The hash rate has generally been increasing over time, so blocks have been found more quickly than expected, on average, resulting in a halving date earlier than expected.
4649  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: why cant people spend other's money on: May 16, 2016, 04:08:46 AM
To be serious: one million accounts is not much compared to 2^32 possible accounts. So, it is very unlikely to spend other's money by guessing or calculating the private keys of accounts. A lot of people tried this before without success. This is why Bitcoin is considered very save.

I don't know where you get "232 possible accounts", but 1 million is 1/4295 of 232. Perhaps you meant 2160. Your laptop can easily test 232 private keys in a day.
4650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will transaction fees be like once no more BTC can be mined? on: May 16, 2016, 03:52:40 AM
Will they be high?

Users want low fees. Miners want fees that are high enough to cover costs. The fees will depend on many things including (but not limited to), the number of transactions, the maximum block size, and the marginal cost of including a transaction in a block. They could drop to as low as 1 satoshi.

Ideally, total fees per block will be extremely high (whether due to a high fee per transaction or high transaction volume) because the integrity of Bitcoin depends on it. If the block reward is low enough, then there may be an economic incentive for someone mount a 51% attack.

This points to a flaw in the Bitcoin security model: There is no direct incentive anyone to protect the integrity of Bitcoin. It is a "tragedy of the commons" problem. A user pays enough to motivate a miner to add their transaction to a block, but not necessarily enough to discourage someone from mounting a 51% attack.
4651  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you think about this "Bitcoin-backed money" idea? on: May 15, 2016, 06:18:19 AM
I just wondering if Bitcoin can also have representative form like the gold certificate. This representative form will be a paper that contain sealed private key. This paper will have face value that represent the Bitcoin amount it has. We could call this "Bitcoin-backed money". Futhermore we can use this Bitcoin-backed money just like we use paper money (banknotes) everyday.

Like these?


https://www.bitcoinsuisse.ch/en/physical-products/#Certificates
4652  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-05-14]Bitcoin Core To Remove Patented AsicBoost Advantage Soon on: May 14, 2016, 11:45:03 PM
This is why we need alternatives to Bitcoin Core. The most dangerous point of centralization right now is Bitcoin Core itself.
4653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is Craig Wright doing now? on: May 14, 2016, 11:26:07 PM
Has it occurred to anyone that maybe you believe that Craig Wright is not Satoshi only because he doesn't live up to the fantasy, legend, and mythology? Why can't Satoshi be a fallible person that is not a super-genius and has no social skills?

Craig Wright has done a poor job of proving that he is Satoshi, but nobody has proved his claim is a hoax.
4654  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-05-14] Video Yahoo: Here's why 21 is the most exciting bitcoin company on: May 14, 2016, 05:45:24 PM
The primary goal of this company is to put a miner in every device (so that the device can automatically pay for things). They keep pushing that idea. It will never succeed because 1) the miner generates very little money, and 2) the miner will generate less and less over time and will eventually cost more than it generates.

Their big thing now is mining on your PC (so that apps on your PC can automatically pay for things). We all know that mining on a PC is a waste of time and energy. What are they thinking?
4655  Economy / Economics / Re: Is this a viable solution to the Tragedy of the Commons problem? on: May 13, 2016, 08:06:07 PM
p is a number from 0% to 100% choosen each block by the miner. It is the percentage of each transaction that are sent as fees. This way, within a single block, everyone pays the same rate.


The problem with low fees is that miners are willing to include transactions with low fees because rejecting them is throwing away free money -- the marginal cost of including a transaction is very low. Plus, even if one miner excludes low fee transactions, other miners will include them. As a result, users are not motivated to pay more unless they need the transaction in the next block.

So, now that we understand the problem...

If miners can choose 0% (or even 1%), then how does a percentage fix the problem of accepting low fees? Miners already pick transactions based on fee (along with other criteria). I don't see how you proposal changes anything.

Finally, transaction value has no effect on the cost of including a transaction, so it doesn't sense for miners to base the minimum fee on the value of the transaction. However, users do care about the fee relative to the amount of the transaction. A user sending $0.01 won't want pay a $0.05 fee. The result of this conflict in priorities will be the inevitable formation of two or more systems differentiated by transaction value. High value transactions will use Bitcoin and low value transactions will use something more appropriate for micropayments.

4656  Economy / Economics / Re: Is this a viable solution to the Tragedy of the Commons problem? on: May 13, 2016, 08:49:15 AM
How it works is that each block specifies a fee percentage (say p), and all transactions are based on that percentage.
If a transaction comes with a fee that is more than p, additional money is refunded back to the user so that it is exactly p.
If a transaction comes with a fee that is less than p, that transaction can't be included in that block.

How is p determined and what is it a percentage of?
4657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin IS basically ALIVE on: May 12, 2016, 11:58:00 PM
Bitcoin is an American invention? Has this been confirmed for sure?
I guess not, but judging from Satoshi's posts I propose the view that it is an American Invention Cheesy

Are you assuming that Satoshi is American? He used British spelling, so he is probably not American.
4658  Economy / Economics / Re: How many % of your portfolio is in bitcoin ? on: May 11, 2016, 06:18:33 PM
As the topic suggest, I'm currently a college student with about ~$12k net worth.
I've invested approximately 70% in diversified ETFs (Domestic Market, FTSE & Developed market),
10% In bond funds (US Treasury, TIPS, Developed & EM bonds), and I'm still having the rest of 20% in hand, some of them were bitcoins, some of them were FIAT.
I'm thinking of holding up to ~$2,000 worth of bitcoins, and just keeping them for few years, will not invest more (adjustment) even if my net worth have become larger.
But at this time point, bitcoin would be 15%~20% of my investment portfolio.
And half of my bitcoin are being invested into P2P Landing platform such as loanbase, bitbond, etc.'s also having so that it'll accrue some interest as well.
My philosophy of investment is I wanted a well-diversified portfolio that generates reasonable ROI but at the also has lower risk.
So what's the percentage of your portfolio is bitcoin, and what's your philosophy of investment ?

Lower investment risk is not appropriate for a college student. The idea is that your work will generate far more wealth than the value of your current investments, so it is no big deal if they go to 0. At some point, it will become more difficult to replace your investments by working (if necessary), so then you would begin to invest more conservatively.

I have 30% of my portfolio in Bitcoin, 40% in stocks, the rest in other things like gold and cash. 0% in bonds.
4659  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Give bitcoins as a gift to someone that haven't got bitcoin wallet on: May 11, 2016, 05:48:48 PM
If you want to be extra careful, make sure that the bitcoin address on the paper wallet comes from the private key on the paper wallet. That will ensure that your friend can actually spend the bitcoins at that address. You can import the private key into a wallet and check that it generates the same Bitcoin address. Don't use you normal wallet because you might accidentally spend your friend's coins. I have a separate wallet specifically for doing this.

You can verify that the address has bitcoins by viewing it in a block explorer like blockr.io or blockchain.info.

Yesterday I used my Blockchain android app, and scanned the "Load & Verify" part of the paper wallet. The paper wallet was imported into my app as a "Watch only" address. Today I scanned the "Spend" (i.e. private key) part of the paper wallet, provided the password, and the address changed state by removing the "Watch only" text. I guess this means everything works perfectly, and that the paper wallet is done as soon as I transfer (rest of the) bitcoins to it. Correct?

Yes, it looks good. Just remember that if the address is in your wallet, then your wallet will think it is ok to spend the bitcoins. Also, when you send bitcoins to the address, you wallet may warn you that you are sending bitcoins to your own address, because sometimes people do that by mistake.
4660  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Placing Buy and Sell orders at same time on: May 11, 2016, 09:07:04 AM
Why cant you just place a sell AND a buy order at the same time and abuse the spread?

You can do that. Nothing is preventing you from doing that. There is a drawback. It works as long as the price stays between your trades, but if it goes above or below, you could lose money.
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