Do I deny what?
Do you deny being a tard that hasn't paid 1000 BTC to charity? |
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Probably I will be the only one with only accepting escrow payment. That's for sure.
I will post the lead time when I will know more about.
And you will offer better prices than current ASIC vendors right?(BFL doesn't count. Inaba is a lying tard) Considering that AM sold 10Ghash devices for ~1 mil USD in a matter of days you will surely get your R&D money back even with lower prices. Let us know when you will have a better estimate for your timeline. Will you be EU or US based? |
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We have money. So we don't need anymore.
Why not give us more details then. Process node, how far are you into this etc |
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No your not, I'm Satoshi Nakamoto!!!! So am I. You are a scammer! |
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I don't want to see the 28nm chip work as expected. I just want to see it on paper. If they can show us some kind of contract with a fab(or any other proof) then everything is fine by me(considering ORSoC is giving a hand). The increase in hashrate is pretty big(around 40% if my math is ok) and i think they may have done this to look more appealing to customers considering the nonstop increase in difficulty. Did they stated where would they get the money for R&D? From the Mars product? From ORSoC?
No, I think that has just been assumed, although maybe in their first newsletter they may have mentioned that they were using in Mars to fund Jupiter development, though they have definitely said they make no money from Mars, that it's a proof of intent. Best, A. I remember that too, but how will they be able to delive a fully functional device in just 4 months if they didn't even start to raise the money for ASIC R&D? What fab will take them on such a short notice? Roadstress, I presume R&D for the most point has already been done. This is not new territory for ORSoC. I thought that is the most expensive stuff when doing an ASIC. Why do they need upfront money from Mars and Jupiter then? Why can't they make the devices ready to sell? |
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I don't want to see the 28nm chip work as expected. I just want to see it on paper. If they can show us some kind of contract with a fab(or any other proof) then everything is fine by me(considering ORSoC is giving a hand). The increase in hashrate is pretty big(around 40% if my math is ok) and i think they may have done this to look more appealing to customers considering the nonstop increase in difficulty. Did they stated where would they get the money for R&D? From the Mars product? From ORSoC?
No, I think that has just been assumed, although maybe in their first newsletter they may have mentioned that they were using in Mars to fund Jupiter development, though they have definitely said they make no money from Mars, that it's a proof of intent. Best, A. I remember that too, but how will they be able to delive a fully functional device in just 4 months if they didn't even start to raise the money for ASIC R&D? What fab will take them on such a short notice? |
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So the order should be in your hands within the allotted buyer protection period (approx 45 days?). I would expect the same for their ASICS. They shouldn't be asking for any money unless they can prove their 28nm chip exists and works as expected.
They had mentioned optimisation circa 350gh/s. I would have preferred they remained quiet on that front and under promised then over delivered beyond expectation.
I don't want to see the 28nm chip work as expected. I just want to see it on paper. If they can show us some kind of contract with a fab(or any other proof) then everything is fine by me(considering ORSoC is giving a hand). The increase in hashrate is pretty big(around 40% if my math is ok) and i think they may have done this to look more appealing to customers considering the nonstop increase in difficulty. Did they stated where would they get the money for R&D? From the Mars product? From ORSoC? |
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Please please post some kind of proof KNCMiner!
Ask to go on the open day. I have. What could be better than that? Didn't even read about the open day. My mistake, but since you are going there is no need for me to go too. Please note that they will present the Mars device. I have no interest in that as i am sure that many companies can pull a FPGA device for bitcoin if they wanted to. What i am unsure is who will make those 28nm chips and how will they have a device ready in 4 months considering that they have nothing now(not even funding since the sale of Mars hasn't started yet). So unless ORSoC pumped a lot of money into this ASIC device they have nothing right now. Don't get me wrong. I want this to be true and i was ready to buy the Mars device, but now i'm not so ready. Nobody in the bitcoin ASIC business pulled a 4 month stunt(from scratch to a fully functional device). |
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So they did like every other ASIC company did. They announced some specs then they raised them without changing price. Unless they use helveticoin's chips then this is really strange to have another 28nm chips. Starts me wondering why AM and Avalon used such old technology if the 28nm is so available to everyone. Unless they provide some kind of proof that they are indeed using the 28nm technology then i am not sending any money to them. They really think they can pull this stunt in just 4 months? Seems really hard to believe. If i understood correctly using 28nm tech is not all about having large amounts of money to drop into development, but you need a fab to make those chips because they are overwhelmed with orders. I mean look at BFL who is struggling for one year and they just shipped 40 products. Why should we think KNCMiner will do a better job? Remember BFL proved that they can make a FPGA too.
Please please post some kind of proof KNCMiner!
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Ok thank you for your warning. Now please move along!
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burnin,
I for one appreciate what your doing, its not an easy road...
+1 he will surely get some tips after he pulls this! |
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*cough* SCAM *cough*
He is another tard who just registered a few days ago and his first long post was here declaring it a scam. This smells like Inaba's PR all over!  P.S. If you aren't a tard who was put by someone else to post this shit or you aren't Inaba then i apologize.(but you never read this topic) |
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i think Inaba is the dominatrix of martinm because i can't explain this thread. AM has 20Thash/s running right now. BFL has 40*5=200Ghash/s running(asic only) By definition of PR they doing the most to provide a good image of their company in public (Exhibitions, Advertisement, Co-operations with other BitCoin companies) dude are you really that idiot? Inaba the PR guy from BFL called his customers cocksuckers. is that good PR? i don't think so. you are an idiot. period. go and sell your house to buy BFL stuff! |
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martinm did you just gave BFL a 7 on their PR? IF you are not retard-inaba then you really don't know about this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y&t=2m48s is this a way to treat your potential customers? also i am sure that you are not aware of the amount of rage and swears that Inaba did on this forum. "Price/Performance of Products" WHAT PRODUCTS??? 40 or so Jalapenos? INABA YOU ARE A RETARD that doesn't pay loosing bets! there! Edit: martinm what is the use of this topic? really! you just created this account and you thought "hey! let's help some random people just because i got nothing else to do". do you think people can't decide for themselves what to buy or what? why would you spend some of your time to help unknown people? |
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And to add to that Joshy-boy can't even pay up his 1000 BTC bet with Runeks or at least prove he paid it.
And the 1000 charity donation BFL needs to make...
He claimed he paid both. Of course, he didn't say which transaction it was in... Really? Can you show us where he she paid both? Why not show us the transactions? Maybe he has something to hide? YES RETARD INABA THAT IS YOU WE ARE TALKING! |
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Thank you for the update. You are awesome too!
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Also think of those people different time zones, who wont get to see the ordering announcement until several hours after everyone else. Randomising it is a fairer system.
It should be in the order the chips come in. Why would anyone in the first batch of chips have to wait to get his board manufactured after someone in the last batches of chips gets his?  Makes no sense... +1 |
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They replied to my email they said at LEAST $2000 off of Jupiter.
Better ask them how far into production are they with the Jupiter and how soon will they provide a prototype! |
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After the big BFL fiasco i think they should provide some proof that they can actually ship the 250Gh device this year because i bet nobody wants to have 2000$ blocked for over 6-9 months like BFL customers. Until then it's just 745$ for a 6Gh device (no idea how big and how much power does it require)+2000$ gift for kncminer because swedish girls are blonde.
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Upgrade protection built in to any purchase with vouchers for up to $2000 off of any Jupiter purchase. kncminer how does this work? some can get 2000$ and some can get 100$? i find this very tricky. Also could you provide an ETA for Jupiter? Someone who is thinking of investing 7000$ into a product might want to know some kind of ETA. We already have BFL who has posponed their products from Octomber to April-May. |
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