He meant to say undervolt. Underclock mem speed, then experiment to get best ratio of high core speed to low voltage. With electricity so cheap, your biggest expense I'd guess would be component failure. Running cards hot or at a higher voltage will kill them much quicker than keeping them undervolted. That said, I had 7 5850s running for about 10 months overclocked @ stock voltage without any problems, but others seem much less lucky.


If you're running the same non-reference 5850s (ASUS DirectCU cards) I'm running, it can be difficult. MSI Afterburner is well-regarded for overclocking, but it takes some effort to get it to function correctly with those cards (I couldn't get it to work). I did use ATI Tray Tools with good success on those cards, however.

Underclocking the memory speed (which is irrelevant when mining, but you generally shouldn't clock it below 300MHz or it may become unstable) will cause the card to draw less power while operating, thus allowing you to raise the core speed (what is used in mining) without needing to increase voltage.

With electricity that cheap, issue shares on GLBSE, ask for loans - mine like crazy. There are many GPU mining farms out there paying >$.10/kWh. You have a fantastic advantage there.

Maybe short-term, but within a few months, I think profitability of mining will start decreasing considerably. FPGAs are going to become much more popular fairly soon if the BFL units are consistent and don't burn out within a few months. Mid-term, I think this will push difficulty up, and cause an even weaker correlation between price and difficulty. FPGA miners probably don't have much else to do with them and they'll have no problem mining profitably down to something like $.10/BTC at current difficulty. It will decrease overall profitability as people upgrade to energy-efficient rigs since FPGA miners won't really have any incentive to stop mining until GPU miners are already pushed waaaay out.

But, if you already have a card and aren't using it -- you could probably mine in the black, assuming your electricity rate isn't >$.12/kWh given you only have one card on the system and components probably not selected for maximum efficiency mining. If you can pull your wattage # (Kill-A-Watts have been selling on Amazon for $16 with a coupon lately), you can plug your #s in @ http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php -- then just mine until it's no longer profitable.

As far as opportunity, don't be expecting anything beyond a few extra bucks per month with just one card after electricity.

Everything on GLBSE 1.0 migrates to GLBSE 2.0, fwiw. Dunno on date.

-1.15BTC "profits" so far.

I may be the one with the gambling addiction. 

This has been happening off and on for a long time. Withdrawals will stick for a couple or few days, then server either cancels or processes it and site might go down a day or two, no explanation why, repeat. People have been warned by well-respected members with long-winded posts. People still deposit.

This late in the game -- eh.

Your withdrawal was probably canceled. Keep trying and you might get lucky.

Well - it's a courtesy, which shows compassion. Telling someone you'll murder them is not just OK, it's admirable. The murderer is giving up the element of surprise to tell the victim truth.

Bet: .1BTC from 14jdGju67Uw7F2rkMS7PFwJJsH9jiQzsRp
# generated: 925
Payout: 0x bet, 0BTC


ETA: Minimum bet reduced from .05BTC to .03BTC!

(Fwiw, I will roll prior to a block being confirmed, but will not pay out until the transaction is confirmed at least once)

Bet: 1BTC from 1PN344c2nec1b29kFbTMcyTdMr4TN4igBp
# generated: 150
Payout: 2x bet, 2BTC

Congrats! Will send once confirmed. ETA: Off goes the coin!

Color me surprised. I was starting to expect this would just fade away. 

Bet: .25BTC from 1errG9KCenY4wSCjJppZtMcKoxyqDEvzv
# generated: 296
Payout: 2x bet, .5BTC


Cheers!

I've watched this thread, and would consider it, but all my coins are tied up for at least a couple weeks. Fwiw.

If I were to make the loan, I'd probably be convinced if you scanned the paper documenting the payday loan. Again, fwiw, since I really can't make the loan right now.

I tried LTC mining a couple weeks ago. Mining was unprofitable (on top of the heat, effort, and not including wear on components - but fwiw, I was just using the cheap CPUs which run my Bitcoin miners), there was nothing I could buy (put my earnings in the one lonely lotto raffle), and I'm still not sure of why I'd want to use it over BTC even if the first two issues were fixed (particularly because even though LTC blocks are solved faster, websites seem to require more confirmations before they consider it valid). BTC was fairly unique and has a clear role as an innovative medium of exchange and has been relatively well-adopted - LTC is a spin-off competing for the same role without the benefits of being first.

I could see something like Namecoin working out as it uses the Bitcoin ideas and puts them toward something other than just facilitating exchange -- its inherent value is not only from its advantages as a medium of exchange. AFAIK, that's not the case with LTC.

Minimum bet: .03BTC
Maximum bet: 5BTC
Send your coins to: 17vs6UMT4Upn4vw4A3VcapcUhdDKg8vzkq

Fuck up those simple rules and I send the entirety of the transaction to BTC100 -- WGSE adheres to a strict "no refunds for retards" policy!


What happens when you send your BTC:
I will use your coin to profit off the spread differences at various exchanges and between Gox bid/ask spreads, then split the profits with you 50/50 roll 1-1000 on random.org when I get around to it - or if I'm up, roughly around the time I see the transaction pop up. (within 24h either way, barring "acts of God")

If the number generated is:
1-375 = 2x coin returned
376-499 = .1x coin returned
500 = 1x coin returned
501-994 = 0x coin returned
995-999 = 3x coin returned
1000 = 1x coin returned + randomly-generated bonus prize of 0-10x the transaction! Yes, that means you could receive up to 11x your transaction amount! Here's your big number - the max prize (at "current" $5.06 BTC rate): $278.30

You get absolutely no guarantee I'm not fudging the numbers, but I'll post every transaction's receive address with # rolled, amount bet, and amount given, and you can guesstimate whether or not I'm telling the truth. However, returns will almost certainly be paid out faster than Bitscalper. I'll keep sheets on this, and 25% of cumulative profit will go to BTC100 (50% of that 25% will go toward covering my pledge until it's fulfilled, other 50% [100% if pledge fully honored] in the form of a new donation), calculated weekly (loose time estimate). If no profit, no BTC100 donation -- remember that if you win!

First drawing held when I wake up! Don't miss out!


P.S. The odds may seem shitty at first glance, but don't forget you're an "idealist" who would likely keep going both when up and down in fast-paced gambling games, losing larger amounts with competing gambling services than with this. Here, there is no wallet to tether you to the service, which would create a disincentive to back out even when you've beaten the odds and made a profit. Payouts go directly to your wallet and the game is quite slow. Therefor, I'm not so certain the odds here are any more shitty than with other services, all things considered.


ETA: Security upgrade! Please only use new address posted at the top of this post. For reference, here's the old address -- don't send coins here: 18pBTnFMUbKEGuh8F1bwz4FDL7aoRyNi9g - also don't send coins here: 1321Wq75VGygAqAedkd24cMQKB48Ef44Ny

Not sure if serious.

(IIRC from what I read) TerryTibbs sold Spotify accounts which he bought from someone else. The accounts he bought were all banned. Instead of refunding clients, TT bought more accounts and issued the new accounts to everyone whose account was banned. That second batch of new accounts was then banned, and TT thought purchasing new accounts to replace the old banned ones for free was enough on his part (even though the replacement accounts he gave for free were again eventually banned). Admins/Mods of this forum disagreed, and gave him the scammer label. He's now issuing partial refunds to everyone who bought a Spotify account through him, and it appears the admin/mods thought this was enough to remove the scammer tag from his account.

He was trolling in response to the Bitscalper question.

Not if there were a Handicapper General who penalizes people with good grades. I'll be glad to see this tested, though, may not be so pleased with the results, but we'll be better for it.

Alternately, it could be done in a "share" style. 100 shares of the $10 issued for .005BTC each. No single person is allowed to own more than 5 shares. Pool op, who bids for the $10 then converts $10 to BTC and splits it evenly to shareholders.

I've gone both ways, GLBSE & lending for mining operations. GLBSE is very formal, the website's frequently non-functional or dysfunctional, but it's a great asset when it works, except shares are typically extremely thinly traded. I made an investment in both TyGrr and FPGA.contract, but had liquidity problems and needed to sell. I've pushed both stocks way, way down that way, and have totally eliminated all bids on TyGrr, and by user error, once sold the wrong stock at way lower a price than I intended. My fault, but not a possible fault in lending. In lending, there's typically no middle-man, just the lender and lendee who negotiate however they please. We can quickly and easily negotiate terms individual to what both our needs are, and the lendee can change his terms to suit what other lenders want instead of a one-size-fits-all solution.

I like them both. I like GLBSE for some of the liquidity it provides, and I could see why it'd be fantastic for ventures requiring many investors, but lending is much simpler and flexible, IMHO.

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Loan I did to amazingrando before was fantastically smooth, and I'll try to re-lend to him this time if I ever have uncommitted Bitcoins again. 

What's wrong with the escrow system many of us are accustomed to?

Know OP doesn't really want this answer, but I agree. Assembling a PC is simpler than assembling most furniture. Once you look at the motherboard and the parts with the cables they came with, it's fairly self-explanatory to figure out where everything goes. PCB's fairly flexible, and now almost everyone's stopped using a bunch of long pins on hardware, there's very little risk of messing something up. You don't even have to go through the trouble of trying to stuff all the cables in a metal box if you don't want - usually get better airflow with it outside a box.

Why are you bothering to pretend you are not psy?

ETA: psy/undergod/Bitcoin ShitList sent me a PM suggesting "Bitcoin ShitList" is not "psy" necessarily, and suggested he has MPD. Sorry for the confusion my post may have caused.