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4761  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright: "You dont need to hold the blockchain. Its ok if only banks do." on: July 02, 2017, 04:48:51 AM
Someone can't simply create something revolutionary in the financial system as bitcoin (which stands against everything the banking system represents) and still support banks, this simply make no sense to me, the contradiction is definitely there. I wouldn't take a word from Craig Wright seriously. I'm not even sure why and how he is back suddenly.

It was just all a part of an elaborate publicity stunt imo for Craig Wright. He had the balls to fake it right till the end though, which is fascinating to me. Running a full node is the only way to ensure that you're getting 100% privacy and security.

ETH network has not enough complete nodes and look the result : less transaction and already stuck.

Complete nodes are a base for all P2P network.

You can not mine with not enough complete nodes to receive (and FILTERED WITH THE NETWORK RULES) all transactions around the network.

And specially in restricted area ...


Nodes
Developpers
Merchands (Users)
Exchanges
Miners

This 5 groups are the essence of the Bitcoin stability (in TASK view) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpeceXY1QBM

Agreed. The whole idea of a p2p decentralized network is to make sure that every transaction is private, and trustless. If not enough people run full nodes then the whole system is going to become somewhat centralized. IDK what the hell Craig Wright was on when he said this, if he was satoshi, surely he won't be endorsing centralization of any kind?

Quote from: bitcoin.org
Most full nodes also serve lightweight clients by allowing them to transmit their transactions to the network and by notifying them when a transaction affects their wallet. If not enough nodes perform this function, clients won’t be able to connect through the peer-to-peer network—they’ll have to use centralized services instead.
4762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Japan ends 8% consumption tax on bitcoin Today on: July 02, 2017, 04:42:33 AM
Always love reading and sharing good news about bitcoin!

Not exactly news, because the date was already out several weeks ago. But from today onwards there will be no double taxing on bitcoin.

Australia has done a similar thing with bitcoin, they used to tax bitcoin as a good, so a 10% GST, and when you buy something with bitcoin, they'll tax you once more. But yesterday/today depending on your timezone this was changed as well.

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From 1 July 2017, though, the government is exempting purchases of digital currency from Australia's 10 per cent Goods and Services tax.

Who's next???
4763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a great innovation but the fear is prominent and so deadly! on: July 02, 2017, 04:36:41 AM
Friends, I am mesmerized by Bitcoin, it's a great currency alternative and lots of innovation going around but to be honest everywhere I see people's are fearing a lot, they want to invest in bitcoin and yes they already invested but still fear is prevalent. Everybody fears and they are afraid mostly about the following:

1) What if someone hacks and steal my bitcoin.
2) What if government shut down bitcoin.
3) What if I buy something via bitcoin and the seller doesn't send me what I paid for.

This list goes on....  What do you guys have to say about it? Why so much fear around Bitcoin? is it time to centralize the Bitcoin so that we could shop freely so that we could have purchase protection just like visa and mastercard Chargeback policy. Decentralization is good but it truly sucks.

Good to see that you're interested in bitcoin, even though you have some doubts, it's good to ask questions.

1. If someone hacks your computer, then you can do nothing. There is no magic dispute button like the ones in paypal.
2. They can't. Bitcoin is decentralized and p2p therefore, if they want to shut down bitcoin they'd have to shut down every single computer that is running bitcoin.
3. Nothing you can do, therefore, do your own due diligence and use escrow.

Decentralization has its benefits and downsides. I think that the benefits of not having a government controlling your future far outweighs the fact atht you can't reverse transactions. Plus, bitcoin is fungible, meaning that two units of bitcoin are worth the same. So as a seller of goods, you have 100% confidence in receiving bitcoin, knowing that nobody can dispute it wrongfully.
4764  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer - mixing reinvented on: July 02, 2017, 01:46:32 AM
Yes. You can keep one for yourself and one to whomever you want.

* Don't send your private key to someone you don't trust.

P.S. Main point in ChipMixer's post in Reddit  is timelock [1] transaction, not multisig.

[1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Timelock

Great explanation.

Basically, the proof section of the Chipmixer site is its main provably fair mechanism, since it publishes private keys every single day to prove that bets aren't rigged. What you can do is create a multisig wallet with one of your own private keys and the other as Chipmixer's private key, and voila, your coins aren't technically yours anymore.

I have a question - if your coins are in multisig at the time of a hard fork, what will happen to your funds? Is there any way that Chipmixer can offer this service trustlessly as well, for example with nlocktime?
4765  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Legal frugs VS. Illegal Drugs on: July 02, 2017, 01:41:28 AM
When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

Well, legal drugs are supposedly less harmful for your body. Obviously medicine is supposed to help yoru body... But if abused anything can be addictive potentially, as long as it makes you feel better. Though regulators rarely get it right, you see alcohol and tobacco is legal and widely used, yet many researchers have shown that it is more addictive than heroin, and many times more addictive than marijuana.


So in reality, weed shouldn't even be a debate. It should be legalized by the standards governments are setting with alcohol/cigarettes. But governments get $$$ from taxes so they can't just outlaw it overnight...
4766  Economy / Lending / Re: 4 BTC Loan With Collateral? on: July 02, 2017, 01:32:43 AM
IMO this is not valid collateral.

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What is considered collateral?

Collateral is something that can easily be resold to cover the loan value plus interest should the loaner default on the loan.

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC).  Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.  Try localbitcoins.com

COnvertible notes as you said are only really worth anything if the start up is successful. And plus, you'd have to wait quite a while actually to get the cash into your hands. A collateral must be readily liquidated in the event of a default.

Domain names that aren't 4-5 letters .com domains aren't really accepted as collateral either, of course it'll depend on your domains but i highly doubt it is anything valuable.

I recommend you just getting a personal loan from your bank, or an overdraft. You'll find much better interest rates and much higher rates of acceptance.
4767  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTS Assorted Silver & Gold Coins & Bullion on: July 02, 2017, 01:00:49 AM
Updated as a bunch of items sold quickly, I may add more in the next few hours...

You don't happen to be selling the gold panda in the first pic, do you(PCGS certified one)?

If you have any american silver dollars, peace morgan etc. selling to close to spot, as long as they are around XF i'll take them. Any more 1oz silver coins as well since all of the ones listed are already sold?

Oh and btw what about shipping to AU?

I no longer have the gold panda in the first picture.  I do have a 2016 3 gram Gold China Panda NGC MS70 I would sell at 190 USD

I do not have any XF Morgans however I do have a 1922 Peace Dollar NGC MS64 I would sell at 50 USD.

For one ounce coins I have some more of the Kookaburras and Britanias here at my office for sure - how many ounces are you looking for?  Feel free to PM.

I also have more of the MS69 Silver Pandas.

Australia, Sweet As... but customs is your risk/responsibility.  Your boys are tough, I know that.

Thanks for the reply.

I'm more or less only interested in used Peace/Morgan dollars. Might be interested in taking the NGC one but not at the moment. The only way for me to get them otherwise would be Apmex which charges more than 70 aud in shipping fees each order to Australia, therefore i prefer p2p trades.

Ive got 2 sets of gold pandas, 1g-30g, 2016 and 2017 except for the 2017 30g gold panda which you have on the first pic. I might just get one off my local coin dealer. Thanks though!
4768  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTS Assorted Silver & Gold Coins & Bullion on: July 01, 2017, 11:30:44 PM
Updated as a bunch of items sold quickly, I may add more in the next few hours...

You don't happen to be selling the gold panda in the first pic, do you(PCGS certified one)?

If you have any american silver dollars, peace morgan etc. selling to close to spot, as long as they are around XF i'll take them. Any more 1oz silver coins as well since all of the ones listed are already sold?

Oh and btw what about shipping to AU?
4769  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are declining stock markets good or bad for Bitcoin? on: July 01, 2017, 05:40:43 AM
In the past few days many stock markets have fallen worldwide. There are many voices that expecting a strong correction and a coming bear market. I wonder if falling stock markets are good or bad for Bitcoin. Normally, money that is no longer invested in stocks is to flow into other assets. Bitcoin with its rapid rise would certainly be attractive. What do you think?

I can't find a definite correlation between stock market indexes and bitcoin, though it makes sense to say that when stock markets go down as a whole then bitcoin will go up somewhat because people are getting their wealth out of company stocks, and by just keeping the cash there does not yield them anything. So bitcoin is one of the logical alternatives. But bitcoin is ocmpletely unknown to most stock traders anyways, so until then we won't see as strong a correlation as say, USD and gold.

Declining stock markets--say what?  I guess I only follow the US, but the Dow & NASDAQ have been on a tear lately and certainly haven't been going down.  Are worldwide markets down?

Not exactly the biggest crash but around 2%(https://www.google.com.au/search?q=dow+index&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=RTVXWYiYHuTc8weVuoqYBA). And that's a lot for the stock market, 2% sounds like stability in bitcoin but for Dow, that's a whole lot....
4770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We can't buy something with Bitcoin quickly on: July 01, 2017, 05:37:38 AM
It all depends on how much you are willing to spend per transaction. One of my wallets has an automatic exchange of the national currency and withdrawal of currency to a Bank card. It now happens instantly. Only the price in exchange for 200-300 dollars less than the real price for 1 BTC.

Wait a minute , did you just said you're paying an extra 15% to withdraw your funds with the current exchange?
Why are you even doing it?
I might be able to understand if you go and deal in cash on localbitcoin or try an atm that doesn't require id but this?


It's not even this. Obviously the guy is probably selling their coins a bit too cheap, but he can do whatever he wants. Plus, the discussion is more about miner's fees and transaction confirmation times, rather than exchange rate spreads on exchanges.

For exemple, I go to a coffee shop, I buy a coffee, then I pay with Bitcoin, we have to wait for a confirmation, no? or the merchant will just trust me if I show my wallet?
How can we be sure that it's not a double spent transaction or something else?

I would assume that most merchants willtrust you because they've got CCTV and all that, security measures irl are much more stringent than in the cyber world. Plus, Bitpay or other bitcoin payment processors will assess whether or not your transaction has enough fees to be confirmed in the first block. If your transaction is large obviously maybe they'll ask you to sit down and wait till confirmations arrive, and the same with low transaction fees.

Bitcoin is built for ecommerce imo so real world adaptability isn't that great atm.
4771  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the current price drop considered a normal phenomenon? on: July 01, 2017, 05:19:37 AM
When Bitcoin goes down, all other cryptos tend to follow. Therefore, don't look at it as a universal downtrend in crypto, but rather simply a crash of Bitcoin. Tongue

This is somewhat incorrect. You're being too general here, some cryptos such as Ripple actually has an inverse relatinoship with bitcoin which means that when bitcoin goes up, it goes down, and when bitcoin goes down, it goes up. But the rest of the coins? Yeah. If you look at the charts, you'll see that bitcoin dominance increases when bitcoin prices crash.

@OP this is not even a phenomenon. it's a daily part of life for most bitcoin users, to deal with the volatility. Unless bitcoin crashes $200 in a minute then everything is expected in the bitcoin world. Bitcoin was in a bubble when it was near $3000 but since has slowed down quite a bit, so i don't think that we'll see another major adjustment until a weekbefore august.
4772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Russia] Burger King to accept Bitcoin this summer! on: July 01, 2017, 05:17:06 AM
Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/burger-king-to-accept-bitcoin-in-russia-this-summer

So yeah, hopefully McDonald, Dominos pizza, and many others will follow after this. I thought that this kind of decisions are taken by the creators of the franchise but It looks like It's not since It's starting on Russia.
Now we can finally buy burgers in Russia with bitcoin instead of trying the local food? Yay Tongue, but seriously any news like this is good news but I don’t have any plans to visit Russia so I will not be able to get advantage of this.

Yeah, hopefully Burger king is able to implement the same sort of thing in countries such as the United States. It seems like that after Russia's government decided to announce their plan to legalize bitcoin fully by 2020, a lot of merchants have opened up to this new technology. Seriously, when is the US going to at least regulate bitcoin so that merchants can use it? I mean, regulation isn't necessarily a good thing for bitcoin, but at least it gets more people using it.

Burger for bitcoin, here we go people but too bad it's only on Russia this will make bitcoin add's popularity.

Waiting for other restaurants locally to accept bitcoin. I think it will be only a test phase for Burger king Russia.

Once it gets successful they will adopt worldwide.

I do not think that this will be a successful step. I am sure that this is only a marketing effect to attract media attention.

Maybe it is, but implementing bitcoin is so cheap anyways, and all you need to do is get a bitcoin wallet, and stick up the QR code for transactions. Easy as that. It's a win win situation, Burger King gets positive publicity, and so does bitcoin in russia.
4773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? on: July 01, 2017, 05:13:30 AM
Funny how every time the market is in a recession and losers keep holding on to their losses they magically become "long term" holders.

God damn it, "long term" is such a stupid meme. Admit it, you wanted to get rich quick and once you realised you are too dumb to swing trade you suddenly became a "long term" loser.

Such idiocity.

You think Dan Balzerian held anything "long term"?

Long term is for losers.
Long term holders are not idiots they are just minimizing risk while lessening some profits, nothing more and nothing else, if you are talented you can make a lot of money in trading, but that is not for everyone.

Exactly, long term wise we all know that bitcoin as a cryptocurrency is going to revolutionize the way people think and use banking services. It's going to improve the world for the better. As more people join bitcoin and use it, the supply won't increase the way fiat currencies increase in monetary supply all the time. Therefore, the supply basically stays at the same level, whilst the demand grows, driving price up.

Long term is quite safe, because you're getting rid of all the short term volatility. Short term investors are taking on a much larger risk than long term investors, and will yield much less because they're focused on making $100 per coin, instead of potentially tens of thousands.
4774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Bloodbath on: July 01, 2017, 05:11:10 AM
Now is the time to buy the dip and fill yer bags.

It's probably not over yet.

I would say that the market will always over adjust, and right now it has adjusted, though still probably not quite enough. i wouldn't be surprised if bitcoin were to go down to a level that is say, $1800,$1900. Something along the lines of that.

When it does happen, as you said it'll be a great opportunity to buy in.

Always go against crowd sentiment.

People who always go against the crowd sentiment end up getting destroyed by the market, since crowd sentiment is essentially what determines what is successful and what is not in capitalist markets. Every market is just the expression of crowd sentiment. The crowd gets irrational from time to time, which creates opportunity. But opperating on the assumption that the crowd is always wrong is a recipe for ruin.

I think that what he meant wasn't really crowd sentiment, but rather when everyone is pumping up the price of bitcoin etc., you should dump all of your coins, and when everyone is saying that bitcoin is trash, it has no future etc., then that's the time to be in some for holding.

Honestly you'd be surprised at how many stupid investors that are out there, and how many instances someone could have dumped their coins for a nice chunk of money but instead wanted to make more and got greedy.

I do think though that there's probably going to be another dump somewhere soon in the near future. How much it adjusts by, i'm not particularly sure but the pre-fork panic is going to affect the price of bitcoin negatively imo. Altcoins will be dragged down alongside btc, though some might actually get pumped as a hedge against btc(ripple, eth). It'll be a good time to buy at that stage.
4775  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer - mixing reinvented on: July 01, 2017, 05:07:45 AM
I used chipmixer a few days ago and I got tricked, after sending my coins I got 3 small chips with the promise of merging them to get a big chip but the merging button wasn't working then I had to pay fees 3 times with one time of my main deposit, literally I lost 20% of my coins just paying fees. lol

Hmm, Chipmixer definitely didn't do this on purpose. It is likely a bug of some kind. I haven't yet tested out the new site after it got a makeover but i can't see anyone else complaining about this issue, so it could be something on your end as well.

Either way, please contact chipmixer support. They'll probably refund you the difference in fees because it's a small amount involved here. As you know bitcoin miner fees are quite high and you can't really blame chipmixer for it.

Hopefully your next coin mixing experience will be somewhat better.
4776  Economy / Speculation / Re: is 2017 the new 2013? on: July 01, 2017, 05:05:46 AM
Nope,
2017 ≠ 2013

BTC Bitcoin price has its own wild road Grin
 -market demand and supply
-Bitcoins and Bitcoin holders
...



2017 is not really 2013, we all know that. Bitcoin is not the same as 2013 where bitcoin has the biggest bubble pop in the history of bitcoin. Though I am not sure if it is really a bubble, but we all know how bitcoin dump that time about Mt. Gox. The users of bitcoin is now rocketing and many still are planning to invest on these digital currency and many countries are also planning to legalize this currency.

That's partially right.

I do think that right now we are in a bubble situation. I believe that priec is probably going to adjust down to a more suitable level of $1900-2000 in the next few weeks due to the aspect of a potentally devastating hard fork coming up, and people will panic dump.

As you said though, there is no Mt Gox hack, there is no price doubling in two days, what I can see from the past few weeks is a very gradual build up of price, with corrections along the way to stop it from going up too fast too soon.
4777  Economy / Digital goods / Re: GET ANY BURGER OR SANDWICH FREE AT MCDONALDS - ONLY $1 EACH! on: July 01, 2017, 01:14:00 AM
Buy and try...They're only $1

You'd be surprised at how little people are willing to scam you for.

Same question here - does this work in every singel country? If I order 10 of these can you use escrow for the trade instead of my having to trust you on the autobuy link?? How did you obtain these by the way?



Um, you said that you gave out vouch copies a day or two ago, but nobody seemed to have commented on their legitimacy yet.
4778  Other / Archival / Re: . on: July 01, 2017, 01:09:54 AM
So who actually invests in this garbage? how much funds have they raised/scammed?

$1.5 million in un-escrowed funds

https://ethereum.link/ICO/stats.php

WTF.... I've seen legit projects raise less than that, and people on this forum isn't even willing to lend out $50. Why do people think that juts having an ANN thread makes you 1million times more trustworthy???


No escrow, self moderated, founders seem to be generic names freshly copied off fake name generator, a quick google search yields absolutely no hits regarding the professional career of the team members listed on their ANN thread apart from the actual ICO itself.

Definitely a scam, even if it isn't, it's still a crappy project. Founders should at least have a linkedin profile dont you think?
4779  Economy / Goods / Re: Buying cheap worn/broken/old android phones/tablets that still run on: July 01, 2017, 12:05:43 AM
I'm looking for android phones and tablets that run minimum android 4.4 operating system, preferably 5.1 or higher. You can get these options in settings - > about device - > system information, under android version. Unlocked or locked to carrier doesn't matter to me.

The quality of the device doesn't matter, it can be smashed in 2 pieces as long as the phone works, charger isn't needed, battery dead is fine, etc etc, I will consider buying phones where the screen doesn't even work.

I'm a developer and need devices for testing purposes.

Message here or PM with your offers.

I have an old HTC phone which is completely fine, no flaws whatsoever, it's just old.

However i am based in Australia which means that if you need me to ship it elsewhere in the world it's probably going to be a hassle & not worth neither of us's time. Let me know if you're in australia too or more likely outside of AU, in which case it's not worth it as i said. I might just sell it to a scrap phone dealer as well, since it's probably not worth much.

Thanks!
4780  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: does ordering bitcoin debit cards expose us to the ID fraud? on: June 30, 2017, 11:34:58 AM
Which service are you using? For mine, i just need to provide ID/passport and proof of residence.

I guess the thing is when you're in a bank, the government is directly linked to them anyways. Most big banks and even small ones have some sort of tie with government regulators, and even if they don't, there are clear regulations that state governments are able to suspend your account and freeze it if anything is suspected. This is not the case with bitcoin debit card providers. They are operating in a grey area and the best that governments can stop any illegal stuff from happening is to get proof of address, proof of id, even origin of funds in some cases.

If you're not comfortable with sharing your info, then don't do it. Use an anonymous card like Advcash. Or use wirex/cryptopay.me, though they have low limits for unverified accounts. If you use a legit, land based corporation's service though there is little chance that your info will be stolen, though it is always possible.
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