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481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin really secure? on: November 21, 2017, 12:07:07 PM
Bitcoin is safe, the cause of bitcoin loss is largely due to you. When you don't understand the cause, that would hurt the trust in Bitcoin and thus you think it's unsafe.
Bitcoins are the most secured crypts because they have no third person/party involved while transactions and only its users are responsible for their transactions online. Besides this it is a digital currency which is kept in digital wallets which cannot be easily stolen by anyone i.e. there is no physical existence of bitcoins. And this factor make them secure and safe and hence, the best.
if to my knowledge, whether or not secure bitcoin transaction is indeed caused by us. because every bitcoin transaction that we run it, not someone else who run it. so any risk we get is sometimes our own act, which is less cautious.
482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Are Now Used in Crimes on: November 21, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
Bitcoin is the form of currency and money can be used for everything it is not only attached with the crime it is money if a person is criminal they will use this for crime while the businessman will use this for other good purposes. The aim of bitcoin is to use this for online payments across the boarders and for many other transactions as well. If I say I am using this for ordering online pizza for family etc etc.



if I think so, everyone must have their own thoughts. if the person holding the bitcoin is a criminal, then bitcoin will be used for criminal. if the person holds bitcoin, the possibility of bitcoin will be bad among the community. different if the bitcoin holds the bitcoin. then bitcoin will be good.
483  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SPECTIV VIRTUAL REALITY + DECENTRALIZED ADTECH | PRANJUALAN SUKSES on: November 20, 2017, 09:10:29 AM
Jadi kenapa ada 2 thread? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1979654.0

(Ane tau thread lama sudah dilock, tetapi kenapa di lock dan digantikan dengan baru?)

dan yang lama malah sebenarya translate nya sudah komplete beserta gambarnya
sedangkan yang ni gambarnya yang ada tulisan banyak belum ditranslate

ga tahu kenapa yang dulu sudah di accepted dan sudah bikin translate nya dan thread nya pun sudah rame di ganti dan yang lama di lock

mungkin bisa tanya ke agan rozee translator lama kenapa di ganti

bagi saya sih yang penting translator lama tetep mendapatkan bayaran atas hasil kerjanya di thread yang sebelumnya  Cheesy
mungkin saja pihak dev membuka kesempatan untuk translator baru untuk thread nya yang sekarang
benar gan,mungkin devnya memberikan pembaruan untuk tread dan para translatornya.
gak masalah sih menurutku asalkan sudah ada konfirmasi dari devnya.
Mungkin ya gan translator yang lama itu kurang memuaskan bagi proyek. Maka devnya mencari translator yang baru dan lebih baik gan. Jadi devnya memberikan pembaharuan untuk informasinya.
484  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][LATX - Penjualan Token] Platform Tugas Latium on: November 20, 2017, 09:03:57 AM
Cukup menarik konsepnya, nampaknya ini di dasari oleh keinginan untuk memudahkan orang-orang dalam mempergunakan mata uang crypto sebagai media untuk pembayaran ataupun seagainya.

iya gan. konsepnya ini mirip seperti pokemon go. cuman bedanya kalau pokemon go itu cuman cari pokemon doang, kalau Latium itu cari Latium, dan ntar bisa di tuker. kurang lebih seperti itu.
Dilihat-lihat dari konsepnya memang bagus, dan proyeknya semoga saja bisa merubah dunia. Karena proyek seperti ini gampang-gampang, susah juga untuk di kembangkan agar maju di dunia ini.jadi butuh usaha keras.
485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: November 17, 2017, 01:50:03 PM
I plan to learned trading and make money out of it. But you need a lot investment for it. I know its a long shot but planning to make my small investment to have enough for retirement.
must be my friends. because the results of the bitcoin is not small and better we should benefitin the bitcoin results with the best. for example like we make business what is profitable and not harm others.
486  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN][ICO ENDED] | EDO | EIDOO Wallet - Exchange Hybrid | 80K ETH TERKUMPUL | on: November 15, 2017, 01:57:10 PM
ternyata distribusinya masih lama ya gan, ya selamat juga yang sudah lancar menjalankan tugas sebagai bounty hunter , yakin deh hasilnya bakal bagus
Memang gan, baru distribusi januari untuk para partisipan bounty, kalau dihitung dari tanggal 17 november ya sekitar 1,5 bulanan lah tapi kalau agan biarin atau anggap sebagai investasi masa depan, pasti ga kerasa gan.
Lagian 1,5 bln itu waktu yang menurut ane relatif pendek. agan ikut bounty lain, pasti tiba-tiba udah sampe januari aja hehe.
iya bener juga kata agan aubert menunggu waktu 1,5 bulan emang nggak terasa kalau sambil ngerjain bounty lain, beruntung buat agan-agan yang ngikutin bounty eidoo karena pengerjaan bountynya singkat, ane nggak sempet ikutan bountynya karena keburu ditutup.

Iya sih , tinggal nngu tgl 17 , terus pantau terus di thread bule nya , liat instruksi selanjutnya , takutnya ampe januari belum boleh lepas sig , kalau boleh lepas sih mah enak sih , 1.5 bulan sambil kerjain bounty lain kan udah lumayan dapet 1.5 bulan dalam bounty lain.
tinggal nngu kedepannya aja nanti , terus doain aja final stake udah di itung sehabis bounty signature kelar 1/2 minggu.

itu bentar lagi donk gan tinggal nunggu aja, selamat ya yang sudah join di EIDOO semoga hasilnya memuaskan juga gan. karena agan-agan semua juga sudah menunggu. sampai pendistribusian
487  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pada titik/periode kapan kah yang tepat jika ingin membeli/deposit rupiah ke btc on: November 15, 2017, 01:44:41 PM
Salam kenal semua.
Sesuai dengan topik saya mau tanya pada titik atau periode kapan kah kita bisa exchange rupiah ke bitcoin karena harga sekarang lumayan tinggi juga 35-36juta agar setidaknya walau tidak bisa profit tidak rugi dulu lah  Grin
Dengan catatan saya memakai vipbtc sebagai tempat exchange. Mungkin kalau ada tempat lain juga boleh sekalian dishare begitu pula periodenya.
Mohon bisa diskusi disini bersama   Cheesy

kalau menurut saya sendiri kalau kita exchage rupiah ke bitcoin tidak ada waktu yang bisa kita pastiin yang cocok, karena harga bitcoin ini terus meningkan, kapan saja kita membeli nya juga tidak masalah, kita bisa hold sampai satu atau dua bulan, pasti harganya akan meningkat dari harga awal.
kita memang belum tahu kapan exchange rupiah ke bitcoin, karena kalau mau melakukan itu semua kita perlu persetujuan dari pemerintah juga. karena kalau kita langsung begitu gak mungkin bisa juga. sabar aja dulu semuanya butuh proses.
488  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin will control the world economy!!!!! is it true? on: November 15, 2017, 01:36:39 PM
No I don't thinkn it is true. No matter what, dollar and euro are still stronger currencies. Also, there is a lot of ignorance around the bitcoin topic. And furthermore, you never know what will happen with the banks and governments. What if bitcoin be banned? There is still a lot of way in front of us.
Yeah, you are right!
Instead of try to make Bitcoin become a threat with the world's economy, we need to help Bitcoin become a friendly currency for anyone, including the government.
But the fact, Bitcoin can not change its nature, we are really have trouble in this case.
we need to try to get governments to approve the bitcoin in circulation, in whatever way we can, hopefully the government can agree on bitcoin circulating in some countries.
489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin just an asset ? on: November 15, 2017, 01:26:17 PM
I have read in the news that that like bitcoin as virtual currencies are assets and does not have the characteristics or what it takes to be a currency that could meet our modern economic needs. It was said that it does not have the fundamental attributes. What are your thoughts about it?
It just happened that Bitcoin became an asset for investors because of the high rate of increase on its value in the market. But bitcoin really is a currency, a digital currency. But since Bitcoin is not yet legal to most of the countries, people who are living on those countries where it is not yet allowed as a payment, uses it as an investment or asset that gives them profit as its value becomes more expensive.
my country is also not allowed if bitcoin is used for means of payment. so I use bitcoin as a means of earning money and do not forget as well as sara learning in my country how the development.
490  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pembelanjaan bitcoins sudah mulai di terapkan luas.Apa pendapat anda? on: November 13, 2017, 03:41:37 PM
Yang pasti saya senang sekali gan seandainya semakin banyak merchant atau toko-toko online yang mau menerima pembayaran menggunakan bitcoin, tapi di sisi lain sedih juga kalau melihat kenyataannya di Indonesia pemerintah sepertinya tidak ada tindakan apapun terkait regulasi seputar bitcoin. Kemudian untuk mencegah hal-hal yang tidak kita inginkan ya sebaiknya kita hati-hati saja gan  Smiley
Benar gan apalagi buat orang-orang seperti kita yang sudah menjadi bagian dari forum bitcoin ini merasa sangat senang sekali jika pembelanjaan bitcoin sudah mulai di terpakan luas, jadinya kita kalau mau beli barang apa-apa gak harus ribet lagi kalau lagi gak pegang uang kan bisa di bayar dengan bitcoin kita
kalau benar-benar terjadi kita pengguna bitcoin tidak akan mengalami kesulitan juga, karena sudah diterapkan secara luas. jadi para pengguna bitcoin sangat mengharapkan hal ini benar-benar terjadi. karena semua juga memerlukan kepastian dari pemerintah kita juga, dan kita tidak bisa asal-asal begitu saja.
491  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Resiko apa yang akan terjadi dengan bit coin di masa mendatang..? on: November 12, 2017, 11:16:35 PM
Resiko Apa yang akan terjadi apabila di masa mendatang separuh manusia yang ada di dunia punya bitcoin,?
Pandangan saudara saudara yang lebih tahu tentang bitcoin,apa akan tambah maju atau malah sebaliknya..?


tentu saja bitcoin akan semakin maju sekarang ini saja bitcoin udah mencapai harga yang sangat tinggi dan indonesiapun menjadi salah satu market bitcoin terbesar di asia bayangkan dengan bitcoin perekonomian suatu negara bisa berubah apa lagi pekerjaan yang semakin susah sekarang membuat banyak pengangguran dengan banyak nya orang yang bisa mencari bitcoin tentu akan sangat membantu mereka
Kemungkinan saja akan selalu berkembang gan. Karena bitcoin itu tidak membuat para penggunanya itu menyusahkan orang lain. Karena bitcoin itu membantu bukan mentusahkan. Karena beberapa orang itu mempercayai bitcoin, karena bitcoin dapat membantu kita dalam kegiatan ekonomi yang selama ini selalu meningkat secara terus menerus.
492  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: November 12, 2017, 05:06:46 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

 For me I should invest 50% of my money and 50% for saving.
 
It depends on the people, if the people are afraid to scam or are afraid to loose all their money, so its better for there to save their own money but if the people are willing to take a risk and they want to make more money so they need to invest it to have a better future.

that's right, everything is up to you want to be saved in the bank or want to invest all of them equally profitable for us. the choice is your own liking, we can not force what you do.
493  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic effects of bitcoins on: November 11, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
Exactly, decentralization is one major economic effect that bitcoin users can adopt in their respective lives because that has gotten the governments and the central banks hooked because they can't control and regulate how money inflows should be which has always favoured them against the citizenry.
Because of decentralization, some governments want to not legalize bitcoin which is hindering cryptos from aiding in economical state of a country but it is also the factor that will cause a devastating effect for the common good. By using bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, citizens who don't bring physical money as well as merchants doesn't need middlemen(which is commonly credit card) in order to get in a successful transaction.
I agree decentralization of bitcoin has good enough reason to failed tracking the bitcoin in our community by the government. For now bitcoin have good effect to our economy because thru help of this program more jobless people were found a work. Status of some average peoples are incredibly increasing because of crypto currency.

the effects of the bitcoin of the economy today are still good, but we also do not know in the future how the development of bitcoin. because the government has also been in action to track bitcoin users as well, maybe when it is traced, then the government will not legalize bitcoin or otherwise we never know.
494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2017 is the Year for Bitcoins.... on: November 11, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
I guess so. 2017 is the year for Bitcoin. I also have read articles about this. Aside from that, I've been hearing TV personalities talking about bitcoin. There's a lot of newly existed member in the BTC forum also, a lot of newbies too. Many have been hooked by this cryptocurrency and now seeing the goodness it brings to people outta here.
this year I think it's a bitcoin year, because the day the bitcoin price jumps up, and many are hunting for bitcoin. especially now that more and more accounts are newbie, and they are new and interested in bitcoin world. they follow also because the bitcoin can help in today's life. so the more days the demand is increased.
495  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: November 11, 2017, 12:01:53 PM
it's not too late to buy some bitcoin, because every person are buying more bitcoin's and they will wait until the price will go up, so when you buy some bitcoin go and hold and wait the day, don't sell too early just wait.

bitcoin increased $100-500 in a short time, no too late to buy bitcoin, you can take advantage of bitcoin just a short time for now because of the trend bitcoin on the rise. wait a few days ahead when the fork occur and the price bitcoin will more soar.
 
never too late for the new investor/holder , but it's a risky move when it comes to trading with the current market situation , it's full of uncertainity. few weeks ago the price of bitcoin are around $5,500 to $6,000 only but by today it's around $7,000 , don't make yourself in big regret over and over again. do it now to take that risk or get nothing and have a lot of regret later.

Yeah, don't think too long before you regret it in the end because of bitcoin price changes so fast and big. I also never thought the movement of bitcoin in 1 year almost 900% so buy now and wait for another surprise Smiley
 

the more people use bitcoin the more value would gained , do you guys aware about this? i think so but they are ignorant when it comes to making decision on a good investment plan like bitcoin. don't you doubt the power of bitcoin could change the world , crazy things happened year by year in bitcoin , don't missed the next one . bitcoin still has a lot of potential to grow , be ready for it.

Some people think that the price of Bitcoin is affected by "speculators" and that their manipulations is what makes it either rise or fall. But I agree with what you said. IMO the constantly increasing demand for BTC is the main reason for the price rising. Since most people still don't use Bitcoin we can expect big rise in the future.
I agree with you if more people will start using bitcoin the price will go extreme high but the main reason why a lot of people do not know about bitcoin is that bitcoin does not actually advertise itself through something that people do daily like watching TV.

I don't watch TV so I don't know about how much info on Bitcoin is there, but I'm sure there is some, at least from time to time in the news. Also, it depends on the country, on the TV channel and so on. I'm sure business channels talk about Bitcoin regularly during the past months. We can't do anything more for now. People should aspire for knowledge themselves, it is to their own benefit.

while there is still time, better take advantage of it. because searching for the bitcoin is not a word terlamba, and we must also be optimistic in achieving a goal we want to achieve, with the time always running.
496  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty yang profitnya gede? on: November 11, 2017, 08:56:01 AM
gan ane masih bingung nih cara bedain bounty yang bisa hasilin profit gede sama bounty yang bayarnya ngga sesuai sama yang dikerjakan, cara bedainnya gimana ya?
ya susah gan paling bisa di analisis dari thread, rules dan white paper nya proyek tersebut, karena dari situ kita bisa melihat gambaran untuk kedepan nya proyek itu akan seperti apa, kita juga bisa melihat alokasi dana untuk peserta nya berapa, jadi kita bisa memprediksi berapa kira kira pendapatan akan yang diperoleh.
Kalau menurutku kita mau bedain itu sangatlah susah gan. Karena kalau kita prediksi sendiri nanti kadang bisa berubah-rubah sesuai dengan ketentuan manajer proyek. Jadi kita nyesuainnya sulit.
497  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: JIKA BITCOIN LEGAL DI INDONESIA on: November 11, 2017, 06:24:03 AM
jika bitcoin di indonesia di legalkan akan menguntungkan pengguna yang ada di indonesia, dan yang di takutkan akan adanya pencucian uang menggunakan bitcoin dari para koruptor
yang namanya koruptor sampai kapanpun akan tetap ada,sebelum adanya bitcoin koruptor juga bisa menyimpan asetnya,mengapa setelah adanya bitcoin semua berpandangan kalo koruptor akan menyimpan uang nya di bitcoin.
Benar gan para koruptor itu semakin lama semakin meraja lela, sampai para pemerintah kuwalahan mengatasinya. Jadi yang buat resah masyarakat itu para koruptor yang semakin menjadi, dan memakan uang negara.
498  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kenapa orang Indonesia percaya pada bitcoin on: November 11, 2017, 12:16:27 AM
karna indonesia percaya dengan harga bitcon melambung lebih tinggi akan di percaya di kalangan masyarakat seluruh indonesia

kalau melambung nya harga menjadi penebab bitcoin di percaya seluruh masyarkat indonesia ga juga
karena harga bitcoin melambung tinggi, malah BI selalu mewarning pelarangan bitcoin sebagai alat pembayaran

intinya sebagian orang indonesia percaya bitcoin ya karena bisa di jadikan pekerjaan dan sumber penghasilan

kita disini juga mencari penghasilan agar tidak menganggur, karena angka pengangguran itu lebih banyak juga, jadi pemerintah harus melakukan sesuatu agar angka pengangguran tidak bertambah lagi. apalagi saat ini biaya hidup selalu meningkat, jadi berkad bitcoin perekonomian kita dapat tertolong.
499  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana mengatasi bitcoiner yang bermunculan baru-baru ini? on: November 11, 2017, 12:12:13 AM
Baru-baru ini sangat banyak bermunculan bitcoiner pendatang baru, tujuannya hanya untuk memburu bounty dan airdrop.
Yang parahnya mereka tidak tau aturan, post sembarangan dan asal-asalan tanpa menghiraukan aturan forum, post dimana suka hati mereka, tapi imbasnya ke para kita semua, lebih-lebih ke negara. Negara kita jadi jelek di forum gara-gara mereka, banyak negara lain yang mengejek kita hanya gara-gara bitcoin yang baru bermunculan dan tidak tau aturan.
Bagaimana tanggapan dan saran kawan-kawan? Kita harus menjaga nama baik negara khususnya indonesia


bro ngak usah bikin thread kayak gini. kita ini saudara sma2 berjuang dari newbie unutk mndaptkan penghasilan
klw masalh newbie yg ngespam sudah ada moderator yg urus. perbaiki sja dirimu sndiri
ini thread yg mirip https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2378925.0.
kita memiliki pendapat boleh gan, asal tidak menyusahkan atau menyinggung para bitcoiners yang lain. karena disini kita bekerja, untuk mengais rezeki. jadi jangan menyinggung orang. saling kerjasama aja 1 sama lain, lebih menguntungkan juga dari pada menglok-olok teman yang ikut forum ini.
500  Economy / Economics / Re: Where do you spend your money from Bitcoin? on: November 11, 2017, 12:05:59 AM
f I use it to pay for electricity, then I will buy it for the reason that I want to buy bitcoin is a great help for every member here to grow.
if I use it as a necessity first, and give parents as well. if it's got a lot of new I want to do something else, which can help the upcoming economy. because that need always increases.
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