Did you do some basic research about this website before playing so much money there? No? Why?!
Unfortunately you're not the first one with problems there. And, since people never learn, you'll probably not be the last one either.
All I can tell is that I'm sorry for you. Quite a costly lesson.

I am sure that from now on you'll look more carefully and use the services of websites with much better reputation.

Very well pointed out. And I will point more exactly to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370521.msg58664685#msg58664685
Shortly: Ledger Nano S is about to get discontinued and replaced by Ledger Nano S+ that will have a bit more memory. So, even if you ignore the other things against Ledger, it's by far "not the best moment" to buy Nano S.

It's always safer to have the money under your control if you can manage to keep your wallet and seed safe.

Your initial questions are rather unclear.
* Keep in mind that transaction fee may or may not be the same as the withdrawal fee from a service (usually the services charge a bit of extra, although this should not happen with mining pools).
* Keep in mind that one transaction with multiple inputs is still cheaper than multiple smaller transactions. Also if you have a big number of small inputs in your wallet it will be more expensive to spend them. On the other hand, if you don't trust (yet?) the service you're using, it's clearly advised to withdraw more often and maybe consolidate your funds.

I see a couple of possible problems:

1. Was the seed created by Electrum or by something else? If not recovered correctly there may be that different addresses are obtained.
2. Is there any chance OP has recovered from another wallet's seed? Is there a chance OP has created a new wallet instead of recovering? Is there a chance for extra/custom words (or even spaces) being set?
3. If the addresses match with the old/known wallet's addresses, maybe somebody has already stolen those coins. The transaction history for those addresses should tell the story.

OP, do you know at least one of the old wallet's addresses? Is there a chance you could try to recover your wallet with Electrum on a laptop/PC? (Make sure it's downloaded from Electrum.org and verified)

That was my point indeed. Thanks for clearing it up for OP.


I've received mine too. Strangely as 2 inputs.
And as promised, I've deposited back for more tests.

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Update: now the website is "temporarily unavailable"

There was one point about withdrawals: I should have had 0.001 BTC locked for the order, still, the withdrawal page allowed withdrawal of my full amount, including that 0.001 BTC. Imho this can lead to problems.

And my withdrawal was not honored - no coins have arrived to tb1qs026jqnqceuuk0th3krkqhlfnx6l8d4k8qf4rh, and my account balance also shows now 0 BTC.
The lost tBTC is not a problem, I was actually testing the withdrawals , but you should know about it since you may have a problem there (whether is it an error or just a delay, I can't tell)

I may give it another try tomorrow.

Brain wallets are unsafe. This is either a mistake, either a bad choice of words.

The seed for HD wallets (which some may confused with brain wallets, until they learn) is, on the other hand, secure if created with a proper good tool and in a safe environment, but should not be memorized as a backup. That's a sure way to lose the funds! The seed has to be kept safely, offline, in a written form. People forget, people suffer accidents or strokes, human mind is just not good enough.

And two more tips:

* consider buying hardware wallets for your coins if you plan to spend
* always double check the addresses you paste and the amounts you send when you do transactions.

Nah, he just loves to troll about the price. He's doing it for (too) many years.

@proudhon, nice to see you posting again! Your presence tends to become a good signal for price starting to rise again

As said, your computer is probably infected.

For the future: cleanup, or, better, reinstall (make sure though you have at hand your windows key).
In the next transactions always check/compare the copy/paste addresses (and much more than just the few first characters in the addresses).

A separate partition with a Linux (maybe Mint is easy enough) only for Electrum/transactions could be an idea to think about. Or even a hardware wallet. (this because if you got today a clipboard malware, "tomorrow" you may catch something much uglier)

Keep in mind that the day has started with news about internet being (partly) restored in Kazakhstan.
Although there was little to no effect on global hash rate (despite the loud news on the matter), it may be a new (reversal) signal for somebody...

Let's see how long it takes until the Russian armies will go home (at least the visible ones). It is known that the Red Army comes easily "to help out" in a country, but it cannot be convinced too easy to also leave.
However, I expect another Belarus there, not another Ukraine.

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And about the impact on crypto... the hash rate looks good (it didn't actually drop as much as some claimed) and the news of the day tell that the internet is partly restored too.

Indeed, I've checked and we have higher hash rate than we had at ATH. And we keep having that for the last ~20 days excepting for a short time at New Year's eve.

And the newspapers over the world still take/translate/spread the news bitcoin hash rate was hit because of the problems in Kazakhstan.
And the price is still in the "fear" levels.

I start to wonder what news sources can actually be believed nowadays...

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And on the same page. I don't know if you've been reading the latest news, but now they say:
Kazakhstan unrest: Internet returns to Almaty following a five day outage
Major Mining Pools’ Bitcoin Hashrate Nears Recovery as Kazakhstan’s Internet Is Partially Restored (what an interesting choice of words, LOL!)

I didn't know about it, sorry.
From what I see it may not be a problem. At least the example I've looked at seems to have the backup with proper latin characters.
So if one searches with wrong characters.. it should be his own problem... And changing that may not be OK because those characters may be valid on certain regional/national pages.

The only time I had problems importing a private key into Electrum was when I was playing with key that's pretty much known by everybody and it has far too many transactions. In such a case the Electrum servers will make you wait a lot and possibly even fail.

Just some safety checks:
Did you download electrum from electrum.org? Did you verify it? https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-verify-your-electrum-download/
Did you put p2pkh: before the private key at import?


If the number of transactions is indeed that big you may need a wallet that doesn't rely on electrum servers, and then I don't know a better option than Bitcoin Core (with the 300+GB of blockchain). So let's see where the problem is. The number of transactions you can see on a block explorer by address.

I've got a similar error message when I tried to put a password like 12345!@#$%
It worked after I've changed the password (and not the temp e-mail provider).

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Also, a link to the start page - from both error pages or successful account creation - would be nice.

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Also, I don't know if it's missing from your side or is my temp mail broken, so no biggie, but there was no account confirmation mail.

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Some more:

The transfer and current acknowledged/known confirmation count should be shown (not credited) after it reached the mempool or got at least one confirmation, so the user knows the everything is fine and he has only to wait.

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I've made an odd sell order because I was allowed to. Just now I cannot delete it: it kicks me out from the account when I press [delete]



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While the order was still there, I was allowed to withdraw my whole amount of tBTC, excepting the fee. (Just it doesn't seem to get processed). Shouldn't the amount from the sell order stay locked?

I'm not sure what you mean, since homographs are just normal words (unless there's other meaning I don't know). And (English) words are treated as words.
On the other hand, basically any proper web crawler engine will ignore (treat as space) all kinds punctuation to avoid problems. (Also usually treats multiple spaces as one, but that doesn't matter much here).
I guessed that this one may do the same, made a test, it worked out, hence that post of mine.

While the fees tend to change, hence an update is welcome now and then, it may worth remembering that a list of such websites was made one year ago too:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309545.0

And there's a list of fees also here on the forum, although it's even older:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079048.0

I think that the only thing TryNinja has to can "fix" is to strip out all punctuation marks from the query string, normal and odd ones too.
I'm telling this because a search for Both workers and employers are making money with Bondex so why don t you take a part in this money earning machine by investing in it does return exactly the expected results.
Of course, some more tests could be needed.

This would basically mean implementing an (over)complicated editor that can handle the quotes like this. I hope that you don't realistically expect that users will use other (external?) tools for this purpose.
I don't have hopes for a such editor get implemented. I think that getting the new forum running/live even without such a feature is more important. That's why I've proposed only something simple.

Of course, if somebody has the time and willingness, sky is the limit, and then we can probably have an editor that handles the quotes, have notification if the quoted post was edited, have versions of the quoted post (for various uses, including the use for correctly showing/handling older quotes)... but, again, I don't realistically expect this come to live.

I wrote about this account 2 weeks ago. It's still not nuked and it started even getting merit for plagiarized post.

Original:


copy, merited: