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4881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: December 30, 2016, 08:49:14 AM
Knowledge is always the key lead us to success. In technically saying, you can even have a decent amount of Bitcoin every months if you have learned how to trade and obtain some experience, as well as skills from trading experts. However, in gambling, we can only decline the losing chance if you have talents or knowledge because gambling relies most on luck and we can not able to control luck at all.
Yes, that is right to say but I think you can use your knowledge, your skill and experience only in sports gambling, while in other format of gambling there you will depend on your luck, if you are lucky you will be able to make money and if you are not luck you will even lose your own money.

You can also use those things in poker and for having those things in gambling it can make you a better gambler. Since it is applicable in gambling, better to use it with trading because in it you have the guarantee that you are going to get more profit together if you are going to be that patient enough and wait for your trades. Both of it has also the risk that we can't avoid.
4882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 30, 2016, 07:57:31 AM
People need face a lose before able to stop gambling at all but sometimes , people still greed or even worse to chase their loss
If you have a friend or family that facing gambling problem, you should help them before it's too late

Of course those gamblers who are now wanting to quit gambling for real are the once you already experienced losing. And no matter what they do, they really can't help themselves but to keep on gambling. Family and friends support is necessary for a gambler that wants to quit gambling and has the willingness to do it, moral support is important.
4883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 29, 2016, 09:18:19 AM
This seems easy, living our intentions and seriousness, if there are people who say no could mean there is no seriousness to stop. perhaps closer to the God is one way.
Yeah its depends on the people seriousness and how they handle it properly.In my experience in gambling you didn't win always sometimes you lose too.

Yes, getting close again to God is a good way to quit gambling for good. There are a lot of religions in the world that are teaching gambling is not a good thing in the sight of God. But leave the rest to God, because even how much you have faith in Him but if you are doing nothing to help yourself, that is still nothing. Try to find some other things to make yourself busy is a good way.
4884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 29, 2016, 08:43:22 AM
It's all risk. We must separate the short term or long term insurance, we have to do to guarantee a day old, but for the short term if we want to reproduce bitcoin we must dare to gambling. Investment in addition to insurance such as gold, property and bonds is also very nice, the point we have to divide investment into several parts.

Gambling might seems to be the easiest way for you to get bitcoin however that is totally a wrong thought. I wonder how many people actually have the same thought about this . Either short or long term gambling might not be a way to earn money, well you can if you are pretty lucky with it

I don't think that totally gambling is the easiest way to get bitcoin. Even though there are casino's who are offering faucets that can give some satoshi's to its gamblers but still that is insufficient to say that gambling is the easiest way to get bitcoin. I will always rely on trading rather than gambling because the more patient you are the better profit you will get with it.
4885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: December 29, 2016, 08:15:30 AM
As I remember there ever ask this question, it is not easy to control when you gamble greed, especially when you are winning of course you will have a sense of want to get more.

Because that is human nature that each of us has the feeling of greediness. But there are a lot of ways so that we can control that greediness. And if you are on that state of winning streak make sure first that you are saving your profit and just gamble the remaining amount that you afford to lose. With that case, you can stop your greediness and keep on gambling because you already save some profit.
4886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: December 29, 2016, 07:40:32 AM
i think because people didnt have 100% luck with gambling..you bet house for house, you bet candy for candy.. someday u will lose it all..
maybe trading is the best way to get some coin little by little.. u never lose it all Wink
It is a fact that no one can be 100% lucky at all, you can win a bet may be the send and the third also but not for every trade. Although trading is also a risky game and you can also lose your money there, but still there you have always a chance to recover your money back you have lost.

That's why I always prefer to recover my lose from the profit that I can get with trading. Because by just simply waiting for the alt coins to pump that I have. I manage to sell them immediately to cover my losses immediately. And I also I don't have to rush with trading unlike in gambling when a loser claims to recover his losses he is always on the rush that makes him lose more.
4887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 29, 2016, 07:01:06 AM
They will encourage you to keep on gambling because they know that in the end all their gamblers are going to lose. It's up to you if you want to kick yourself and you can do it whether you gamble in real gambling or online gambling.

There actually tons of people that dont really gamble in casino. There are in there for entertainment purposes and they feel happy to see either people win or lose there. Either way it is also the same in online gambling there will be lots of people that dont gambld and yet keep on chatting for hours on the site

Yes there are those people who loves to see the fortune and misfortune or others and remains to be a spectators. That's just he same whether it is with online gambling because anyone can see the win and lose of the gamblers of a certain website, the high rollers, biggest betters and highest win of all the time.

4888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: December 29, 2016, 06:49:24 AM
When you guys are gambling and already doubled your bankroll, do you still play with the whole money you got or you take away half of your bankroll and start playing with your profit or not?
just play with my profit , i do not take risk to lose and dissapear all my money  Undecided

It's up to you on how you are going to take the risk but gambling with your profit or even your capital doesn't mean that you need to lose all of it. Unless you are that helpless with your addiction and you are keep on trying to recover all of your losses. And you don't want to disappear all your money, but you wanted to play with your profit?
4889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 28, 2016, 02:19:12 AM
Many people who experience problems when gambling, this is because they can not control when gambling. When winning, they will wager all money owned but lost, so poor. We must can control and have smart calculation when gambling.
We must learn to control ourselves, but there are not many calculations you can do if playing a game like roulette since it does no matter how much math you apply, it does not affect the outcome of the game.

Maybe the calculations he is talking about on the amount of money you gamble. It is one of the best thing to do that whenever you gamble you are going to manage the total amount you gamble and just gamble what you afford to lose. In able to reduce the bad result of it, every time you gamble it is better if you are going to start always with small amount.

I don't see any difference in starting at small amount then keep on depositing until we exhausted our budget.  I think the best approach is planning ahead of time by knowing and deciding how much we are willing to gamble.  Then stop when we reach our bankroll limit.  This way we can make sure that we are only using the money we have decided to spend in gambling.

No, there is a difference for limiting yourself to a certain amount and small amount for gambling within a day. And that's why you need to limit yourself when you gamble and just gamble always with starting a small amount because with that amount. It is a very affordable to lose and you will not regret if you lose.
4890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 28, 2016, 02:07:30 AM
With real life gambling you can limit yourself from losses - with online gambling that is impossible to do because you can register another account always and come back again and again and again without thinking about your decisions.

In real life you can give the casino the right to kick you out if they see you, but online it's impossible.

Not true, in real casino you can gamble until you lose all money. In online casino you can create new account, and in real life you can always walk into another casino. You can't really say "kick me please i don't want to gamble"   Grin
Anyway, there are some games that real casinos don't have(at least here) like dice, plinko or huge number of slots, but in real casino experience is much better, from those nice ladies bringing you drink to those old dirty gamblers begging for few cents to play few rolls  Grin





Haha yes, real casino's doesn't even want to kick you even you say so. As long as you have money to gamble or should I say donate to them. They will encourage you to keep on gambling because they know that in the end all their gamblers are going to lose. It's up to you if you want to kick yourself and you can do it whether you gamble in real gambling or online gambling.
4891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 28, 2016, 01:39:59 AM
another defeat for cleveland without lebron james. within the last 3 seasons cleveland won only 4 games out of 22 without lebron james. if he were to be injured for a few games during the playoffs, for cleveland would be the end.

The fact is Cleveland Cavaliers is really incomplete without Lebron James on the floor. King James is the source why other Cavaliers players are performing well. Looks like a big inspiration to them when James is present. But other Cavaliers players must not be like that always since Lebron James isn't forever in the league and will suffered weakness too. Hopefully others will step up if ever James is not present.

After their recent game against the Warriors, Cavaliers rested Lebron James. So the result, they suffered a terrible loss against the Pistons.

It is just easier to play if you have a player who can attract multiple guards. And their plays revolve around lebron. But you are right, the cavs should not rely too much on lebron. Others should step up whether he is on or off the floor.

Lebron is a superstar to their team but he is not fighting alone. Team work is always there, how about Irving, other guards and players that are playing for the same team. They have their very role for each game it is because Lebron is the scoring machine of the team and has been tested with his playing career for so many seasons. They are playing as a whole, not Lebron alone but yes Lebron has a very big contribution for the whole team.
4892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 28, 2016, 01:23:56 AM
Many people who experience problems when gambling, this is because they can not control when gambling. When winning, they will wager all money owned but lost, so poor. We must can control and have smart calculation when gambling.
We must learn to control ourselves, but there are not many calculations you can do if playing a game like roulette since it does no matter how much math you apply, it does not affect the outcome of the game.

Maybe the calculations he is talking about on the amount of money you gamble. It is one of the best thing to do that whenever you gamble you are going to manage the total amount you gamble and just gamble what you afford to lose. In able to reduce the bad result of it, every time you gamble it is better if you are going to start always with small amount.
4893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use Cashback or bonuses? on: December 28, 2016, 01:14:04 AM
When I am going to gamble with the site for the first time then of course I prefer to use the giveaways/bonuses. But for those sites that I've been using for so many times, I always go for a cashback. Cashback is guaranteed that you will able to recover some portion of your losses but it doesn't mean that you are going to keep on losing with your money.
lol giveaway chaser *nooffense , honestly i hate this kind players ,
usually they just abusing the giveaways or bonuses due they are greedy ,
i don't want to accept both cashback and bonus offered (don't want to fall into something bad for twice, it is wasting time) ,
i prefer just to gambler normally , no bonuses or something.

There are gamblers who are abusing that cashback and bonuses but as a responsible gambler I know how to gamble fairly. Since those gambling sites are giving real money and upon abusing their system that can make them bankrupt. And your idea is kinda good no cashback or anything but those giveaways are used for the promotions of gambling sites.
4894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: December 28, 2016, 01:00:36 AM
As i know gambling is all about luck and how to control my greed, except sportbetting (of course need skill and strategy).

I have experience in gambling (casino), somtime i hit big only with faucet or free money and i can withdraw from that. but because my greed i always want more and more, then i'll come again with my money as bankroll. Bet more and hope win more, but because of that i'll lose my money little by little and usually i'll stop after my bankroll to be "0". I call that with greed.
Anyone here have any suggestion to control my greed? Let me know.


There is only one thing that you need to do so that you will have the control of your own greediness. Haven't you tried to become contented whenever you win some acceptable amount for a single day from your free money? That's the only key for it and every time you win it is better if you are going to save some of it, so that you can secure some profit from it.
4895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Am I the world's unluckiest affiliate partner? on: December 28, 2016, 12:48:33 AM
Now minus 45 btc.
 Cheesy


What the? How it came that very fast, yesterday that was BTC-43 and I just went for awhile and missed this. Man what is your plan for that? Do you plan to stop that system with that site. Just leave that account together with this year of 2016 and start your new year with a new hope and just start referring again from your new account.
4896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Am I the world's unluckiest affiliate partner? on: December 27, 2016, 02:15:55 AM
It has now reached comical status:

My commission stands at MINUS 43 BITCOIN.



I was moaning 5 weeks ago when it was minus 4 bitcoin!

Dang! I thought my eyes are blurred, I thought it wass -4.3BTC but -43BTC. But it's really a very unlucky part to you for having -43BTC in your balance that's a very big amount. Maybe you just need to find some other active referrals or you can just start up again, if I am on your place, I don't know if I will completely leave that alone and walk away or find some encouragement to keep on going.
4897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Chances of Winning in Gambling Higher? on: December 27, 2016, 01:54:41 AM
There is no math for the chance of winning in gambling no matter how good you are in a gambling game whether the house edge has big or small percentage. And I appreciate on how you did calculate or you wherever you got this calculation for the luck/chance of winning. But still whether you do this or not, chance of winning is always on how you are going to risk your money, on how lucky you are and on how broad your knowledge with the game you are playing.
4898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use Cashback or bonuses? on: December 27, 2016, 01:42:32 AM
When I am going to gamble with the site for the first time then of course I prefer to use the giveaways/bonuses. But for those sites that I've been using for so many times, I always go for a cashback. Cashback is guaranteed that you will able to recover some portion of your losses but it doesn't mean that you are going to keep on losing with your money.
4899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you gamble your (or your child's) school fund? on: December 27, 2016, 01:17:23 AM
Definitely not.. in my opinion this would cause a big problem for you when you lose. I only use my personal or extra funds when gambling and that's it win or lose that's fine with me since I play smart and know to control myself and feelings towards gambling.
Using school fund is the most idiot idea a man can think about. Those money is for the future career, for your kids, for your future, too. If you use all of the school fund, you will definitely be punished. Gambling is only for entertaining so do not screw up everything just because you do not have money to join a casino
Believe me addicted gamblers can always come with even worse ideas than that, I remember seeing one particularly distressed gambler and I asked why he was in that state, and he said he just lost his months salary in the casino and was wondering how he was going to pay for rent that month.

That's awful and it is the reality that addicted gamblers can attain to do anything they want just to sustain their gambling addiction. And we can't deny that there are people who are experiencing this type of addiction and they are making gambling as their first priority. So for me, they are idiots of idiots but addicted gamblers will always be addicted whether they use school funds or their fund for the whole year.
4900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers Opinion Needed... What Else To Add? on: December 27, 2016, 12:58:58 AM
A. What are your first thoughts when you see the homepage?
- Is it normal that the homepage loads slowly or the problem is within my ISP? And my first impression to your homepage, I find plain black on the side is not a good thing and catch the new visitors attention, its plainly dead, I'm sorry but that's what I think. Maybe it will be better if you will change it or mix it up with some other colors. Overall its good only the color is just a problem in my eye.

2. What sports or esports would you like to see on the website?
-Hmmm, maybe adding up some upcoming matches for boxing is also a good one and if there are some announcements that will make it better.

C. What else would you like to see on the website?
I thought it is a gambling casino but I mistakenly understood it as the site names deposit. I guess you just need to put some chat there and everything is good.

Good luck to your site pal!
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