CfB and you were not the escrow in these deal, so you don't have to use your power to save people
This reminds me about moral problems of Clark Kent from "Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice"... Didn't saw it yet ^^ |
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Comme ne toujours pas avoir eu de withdraw ?
D'ailleurs ,j'ai du la re renseigné aujourd'hui . ( hier encore présente )
enregistre une nouvelle adresse de withdraw sur le site de l'ICO |
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We must take into consideration that helping to people got scammed by CH will put a blot on IOTA community forever analogically like quasi unfair distribution in Nxt or hardfork in ETH/DAO. Competitor of IOTA probably will blame IOTA also in 5/10 years.
No, you must not have understood what I wrote earlier; IOTA hasn't launched yet, it's not decentralized yet, it's being developed by a centralized legally registered company. Until official launch (when it de facto goes decentralized), this has nothing to say.
Helping somebody in their failures we could destroy the idea of the IOTA for ever and the company's reputation has created it. This may be the beginning of the end for the ideas of IOTA. Look at the fight on Ethereum/DAO now and you will understand what could happening.
This indicates that you also don't have a good grasp of what the 'idea of IOTA is'. The vision of IOTA is the emerging machine economy in 'Internet of Things' I.E. 'Economy of Things' is the idea that fuels IOTA, not some childish libertarian fanaticism of 'decentralizing the universe'. We didn't make IOTA to create some fringe shadow world, we create it to solve the problems of IoT interoperability between machines. The core features of IOTA is scalability and zero fees, which allow for the first time ever true nano-transactions, which is needed in the machine economy where most transactions will consist of cent equivalents. Any person that get put off IOTA *if* we were to essentially cancel CH's purchase from our private company before IOTA is even launched is by definition clueless about IOTA and I would be happy to filter them out. We are not even able to prove who buy what. And even if we can, CH was also able to sell the private key directly. We don't know if he still in possession of the account or not. So inaction is the best solution. It's buyers faults for literally giving their money to this guy. CfB and you were not the escrow in these deal, so you don't have to use your power to save people that didn't respect common sense by not giving money to an untrustworthy guy. And one of the core features of IOTA is also decentralization. Even if you don't like the "childish libetarian fanaticism of 'decentralizing the universe'"  |
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What if by freezing CH's account I'm doing the same disservice as VB to Ethereum community with that fork? The lesson won't be learned if I babysit those who decided not to use an escrow service...
Difference is that IOTA is not released yet whereas Ethereum is. People won't learn no matter what lessons are given. Just look at the human history from the past 5000+ years. Or the crypto history from the past 3 years. TL;DR: Freeze Iota Testing on the IOTA chat. They've get rekt because they have deal with the wrong guy, freezing isn't a good solution, Come-from-Beyond don't have to play the IOTA dictator that have the power to freeze any account. |
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What if by freezing CH's account I'm doing the same disservice as VB to Ethereum community with that fork? The lesson won't be learned if I babysit those who decided not to use an escrow service...
Don't freeze it, thanks. That's what happen when people deal with others without escrow or with untrusted sellers. |
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Je comprendrai jamais ces principes.
-Une annonce est faite pour un lancement
- 30minutes avant le lancement prévu, on t'annonce que c'est reporté de 4jours.
Certes c'est monnaie courante dans le monde des cryptos, mais je trouve quand même cela dingue de ne pas prévoir un minimum, ou alors ne pas annoncer des timings que l'on sait que l'on ne tiendra pas (jusqu'à quelques minutes avant le lancement, la blague).
Bref, nous verrons le 20 juin !
Go te plaindre auprès de Bittrex. Ca sent mauvais, non ? Ils sont justes pas terrible chez Bittrex. Mais bon ils ont une excuse vu que waves n'est pas un clone d'une coin existante ils ont jamais eut à intégrer un wallet dans ce genre. Now c'est wait & see jusqu'au 20 juin. Mais si le 20 juin toujours rien là par contre va falloir se poser des questions. |
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Je comprendrai jamais ces principes.
-Une annonce est faite pour un lancement
- 30minutes avant le lancement prévu, on t'annonce que c'est reporté de 4jours.
Certes c'est monnaie courante dans le monde des cryptos, mais je trouve quand même cela dingue de ne pas prévoir un minimum, ou alors ne pas annoncer des timings que l'on sait que l'on ne tiendra pas (jusqu'à quelques minutes avant le lancement, la blague).
Bref, nous verrons le 20 juin !
Go te plaindre auprès de Bittrex. |
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How about the 1BTC batch 2? Is it exactly the same as Batch 1?
Yes it seem to be the exact same coins. |
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lol good luck i am out I am willing to pay 0,0005 thats more than enough for a coin without a wallet. Did you actually check before saying that ? Tsss. There is one wallet and you can help testing on http://chat.iotatoken.com/So please don't spread false informations. |
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Yop! J'entends parler du forgeage pour des monnaies de type Waves, Nxt... De ce que je comprends, en laissant tourner un pc avec son compte ouvert, on contribue à sécuriser le réseau et on est récompensé par les fees. Arretez moi, si je me trompes  Question, est ce que ce n'est pas dangereux de laisser son compte ouvert 24/24 ? Si vous pratiquez le forgeage, comment faites vous pour sécuriser votre compte, accés? Merci d'avance! Forger ne s'emplois que pour NXT en faite. Sinon forger revient au même que staker. Donc en gros c'est aussi dangereux que de laisser son noeud Bitcoin avec des BTC dedans connecté h24. Pour NXT par exemple tu peux simplement rajouter l'account control pour protéger tes coins. EDIT : Pour NXT tu peux aussi "lease" ta balance, donc en gros tu as des coins sur le compte A, et ils forgeront pour le compte B, et seul le compte B devra rester connecté h24, ce qui fait que tes coins sur le compte A sont à l'abris et que seul tes gains qui atterriront sur le compte B seront "en danger" si ton pc ou serveur est peu protéger. |
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Hello all iota people. I am selling a large part of my iota stack. 1.72% of total iota supply for 400 btc. This offer is open immediately and will be revoked when iota goes live. We will of course use a reputable escrow. PM me to make arrangements. Referencing my post here with CfB: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1216479.msg15080712#msg15080712this will be my calculation for amounts when making deals. So my total amount offered is 47816000000000 / 47.816 Trillion. 1.72% of total supply. The price is non-negotiable. I am in communication with multiple buyers so will be open to selling off blocks of 50btc minimum to spread around distribution and better accommodate smaller investors Thanks for reading. It seems no one wants to buy your IOTA before IOTA foundation is built up, if Foundation is not built up, the IOTA price will crash.The sentence like this have just no connection with the fact that people don't want his IOTA. Unless you are the only buyer of IOTA here. And the second is just an assumption to scare holder so they decide to help the foundation. Nice try. But stop spreading FUD please. |
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Please guys DO NOT RELAY ON QUOTES when doing trades. I will ALWAYS send message to BOTH buyer and sellers ! Someone just send me a PM on bitcointalk with the screenshot of the scammer message :  So do not relay on quotes of an escrow when you are trading with someone ( escrow can be me or not it doesn't matter ) always trade safely and don't relay on quotes. I'm still offering free escrow services for those who want it, but I can not be held responsible for your losses if you trust quotes send to you by the other party. |
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Salut,
Avez vous essayé les USDT?
J'aimerais withdraw de polo mais je ne connais pas trop cette monnaie.
Ca fontionne avec un wallet? Je suis allé voir sur leur site et j'ai l'impression qu'il faille avoir un compte ...
Si quelqu'un peut m'éclairer...
Merci d'avance,
Pour USDT tu dois avoir un compte sur leur site oui. |
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Selling 4.169.295.000.000 (1.5M old) iotas for 40 btc. With escrow and collateral on my side to guarantee i deliver. PM if interested.
I already completed a trade in the past with CFB escrow.
Please stop using old IOTA notation. |
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I don't care about stupid trolls but if this thread becomes a toxic list of bullshit of pump, dump, troll, newbie sock puppet posts I'll close the thread and someone else or me can open a moderated one where newbie posts will be deleted.
let's see how it goes this week and we can decide as a community to do this or not. This thread is just to discuss and if people make it unpleasant to discuss then what's the point...
Can I suggest not feeding the trolls...
If you decide to close this one, i will create one. |
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Le wallet chrome est super sympa et rapide pas comme la lenteur de NxT et Nem
Seulement une fois ouvert c'est joli mais il y a rien ...
Et la on va devoir attendre des mois avant d'avoir ce qu'a deja NxT. Youhou
Tu compare des full nodes avec des lite nodes, normal que c'est plus rapide --' C'est comme si tu compare Bitcoin Core et Electrum. |
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If people are still buying or selling here, i'm still offer my escrow service for free until IOTA hit the big exchanges platform.
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I am predicting 2000 sats at least once it gets rebranded and hits Poloniex. The partnerships, investments, and developers are too strong to turn the bull around. Hold on tight guys, we are in for a rally!
Does anyone have anything interesting to say apart from price predictions. I don't think its a PND coin, it might rise from speculation but personally I'm looking at it as a long term value hold. If the kind of money Loyyal hopes will move into the platform over the coming years then the value 'could' make these little short term valuations silly. I'm looking to real value not speculative value that can go poof! and disappear in minutes. Since they are working with the UAE government, their product will be launch before 2020 ( this one : http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/innovation/dubai-selects-blockchain-tech-for-tourism-loyalty-points/ ). And since their team work quickly, probably a working prototype next year. |
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Is this coin a fork of ETH?
What percentage pre-mine is it?
I couldn't help but notice your English suddenly went native.....hilarious. Don't you know it? Is this coin a fork of ETH? pre-mine is 100%? Cryptorials rdewilde Thank you You are kinder than other currencies I understood a little by your answer. It will be necessary for me to study it a little more But I didn't agree in all It is not at all easy thing to spread the currency. I will come back It's not a fork of ETH. It was launch months before Ethereum. And stop comparing Bitcoin / ETH to Loyyal. It's not even the same use-case. |
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