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5061  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Lending bitcoins on: May 05, 2017, 05:11:17 PM
The number of scammers is so high that the profits from lending on sites like BTCJam is negligible.

Furthermore, many of these sites denominate their loans in USD, meaning that Bitcoin's growth exceeds the profit of the loan, and minus the chance of scammers you're looking at a pretty decent negative number.

The only profitable way to lend Bitcoin is to margin lend on sites like Poloniex, but considering how unreliable Bitcoin and altcoin exchanges are it might not even be worth it for ten percent or so per year with a lot of work.

There are plenty of more profitable investments than that - like casino bankroll investments.
5062  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What price must BTC/USD be to get more ASIC manufacteurs? on: May 05, 2017, 04:35:51 PM
Bitcoin's price won't consistently rise too quick for the difficulty to keep up.  As the price keeps rising, people will decide that mining is more profitable and who will they turn to first?  Bitmain.  Just because everyone else does it - like a herd of sheep really.

Bitmain's monopoly is so significant that to usurp their position would take thousands and thousands of Bitcoin in marketing and even more working on efficiency in a fairly marginal market.

Even worse - because of this, any company who can afford to create a machine better than Bitmain's (and it would have to be quite a bit better) would be evil themselves, and thus the effort to decentralise the market wouldn't be as helpful as we'd think at first at all.

5063  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright's New Company is Building a Bitcoin Core Competitor on: May 05, 2017, 04:17:44 PM
A lot of people are building Bitcoin Core alternatives.  Most of them are crap, and Craig Wright's one will be a hundred times worse (not that I would trust it even if it was good).
5064  Economy / Speculation / Re: FOMO IS REAL on: May 05, 2017, 03:42:24 PM
Plus...fear of missing out explains my usual response, which has been "there's more buyers than sellers."
There's never more buyers than sellers, there's always an equal amount.  To buy Bitcoin you have to have bought it from someone.  What you really mean is that people are willing to buy it for more.

Perhaps the real question for people discuss here is: how many people do you know that have now (finally) decided to buys some Bitcoin?
None.

Bitcoin is a tiny, tiny market.  A few hundred million dollars (I know it sounds like a lot, but in market terms it's not) would shove the price up thousands.  Relative to the population at large, nearly no one owns Bitcoin and for now that's how it will continue to be.
5065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING:network under Massive spam attack. on: May 05, 2017, 03:27:20 PM
Its more then likely some people who are trying to prove that bitcoin need bigger blocks (Bitcoin Unlimited/Roger verr)?

We do need bigger blocks, but such attacks are unlikely to influence people.
They are unsustainable too. Why would you continuously burn money just to prove a point?

They don't burn any money because it's the miners who are spamming the network. They are confirming their own spam transactions so they actually don't lose any money while giving us cancer.

Well played, wutang ju, well played.
They would lose money from sending loads of spam transactions actually.  It would be removing the profit that they would make from receiving transaction fees (with spam transactions, the transaction fees are their own money).

5066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Any accounts of bitcoin in Japan? on: May 04, 2017, 07:40:29 PM
Bitcoin and crypto currency is slowly starting to buzz in mainstream US news, it isnt big yet but i noticed a few publications focusing on it now.

Was wondering if there was anyone in japan that could give us some idea if the "bitcoin hype" is real? Also, if so have you purchased anything with bitcoin?

Really curious
->Japan is way ahead of any other country in practical use of bitcoins.
->They've malls in japan with automated vending machines which accept bitcoins to provide variety of goods for kids as well adults.
->They have functioning bitcoin ATM's and real time conversion machines.
->Bitcoin hype is way more than you can imagine in Japan.Follow one of your favorite Japanese bitcoin businesses ,you'd know.
Sounds like an exaggeration.  Bitcoin still represents a tiny, tiny amount of actual money in Japan and around the world.

Japan is quite a technology-centered country and Bitcoin is on its way, but it'll take a long time before real adoption is happening.
5067  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Which Exchange (Question) on: May 04, 2017, 06:48:25 PM
Yobit has one of the biggest ETH volumes and you could simply click on your BTC balance and it automatically fills the order for you and I'm sure most of the exchanges are like that unless you are too lazy to fill your orders manually Cheesy
YoBit is the worst exchange about and loads of people don't actually get their withdrawals from the shitcoins they put on there.  I'm not sure they're even fully solvent.

Poloniex and Bittrex are your main options.  Kraken isn't really too good as an altcoin exchange.
5068  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy, hold or sell? on: May 04, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
What is going on with the price?!

It seems to explode.

What do you do?

Buy more in case the price continues to rise?

Hold and wait for higher prices?

Sell and take profits?

All of the above.

Buy more because the price will continue to rise. Sell some at a higher price for profit. Hodl the rest for long term higher prices.
You're basically just telling him to do everything.  The market is in a weird state where reason and fundamentals mean nothing.  Buying and selling, unless you're an extremely good analyst, is not going to help.

I say just HODL.
5069  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: something we can all be happy about on: May 04, 2017, 05:14:19 PM

I feel the same way and its really sad we cant purchase them already on a lower price.I did engage most of them but sell off on a cheaper price but still okay after all as long I do have the profits.

there will be many who regret not hodling. 
It's more likely that there will be many who regret not selling.  Altcoins often have sections of going up and down, it's just that this one is more dramatic than before.  Some of the altcoins like ETH and Monero will stick around, but plenty of those altcoins are going right back down again.
5070  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela political status on: May 04, 2017, 04:46:59 PM
Well im Venezuelan and i live here in Carabobo closed to he capital Caracas, and we right now are having a total media blackout, all the transmisions on tv dont show what is going on with the country, everything that they are showing is "cadenas" or long programations of the president saying that everything is out of control and e will use extreme forces againts his own country, the situation her is alarming we need international help right now.

Yeah I know how this will end.
Venezuela crying for help , the west providing help then we will get labeled as invaders, everyone will start thrwoing rocks and when the country turns back into a dump it's our fault again.

How about you start dealing with your own shit?
You;re the guys that elected both Chavez and Maduro
The West are never labeled invaders for providing financial aid.  They're only labeled invaders (correctly) for trying to intervene in civil wars which don't concern them.

So what do you plan? To send money to Venezuela because they were stupid to elect a taxi driver as president?
Why the hell should we help them when they pay 2 cents for a gallon of gas?

They were all high and mighty a few years ago, the tropical paradise, now enjoy socialism!!!!
All that's needed is a change of currency.  Zimbabwe's hyperinflation led to them using the US dollar instead - that could be interpreted as "financial aid" even if it's not literally giving them money.  If you believe that capitalist societies in crisis should be given financial aid, so should socialist ones - otherwise your judgement of socialism is unreasonable.

Not to mention that elections never represent the will of an entire nation, they represent a small majority of people who decided to vote.
5071  Economy / Economics / Re: What will be the future of BITCOIN's current bullrun? on: May 04, 2017, 04:43:50 PM
If this rate of price rises right now were sustainable, the Bitcoin price would be several thousand by the end of the year.  It's not likely at all and there will be dramatic price fluctuations.  However, we will remain in a bull market for the rest of the year at least due to increasing mainstream media coverage - they could even phrase it like the "return" of Bitcoin since the unnecessary hype in 2013.
5072  Economy / Speculation / Re: I can see that the bitcoin specualtion sub has matured! on: May 04, 2017, 04:09:56 PM
I think it's because Bitcoin users have got a reality check about its use in real life transactions and the practicality of PoW mining.  Cryptocurrency needs a lot of innovation before it can be used in the mainstream to such a ridiculous price, and Bitcoin could only get that far as "digital gold" after a long time unless there's a new mining system which is properly decentralised.  Ethereum and other coins are really not good enough yet either which is why people haven't all migrated down there.
5073  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain? Is it a joke or something? on: May 04, 2017, 03:32:47 PM
They don't HAVE to do anything.........they are outside any US jurisdiction & it's Bitcoin,no one will care  Sad
No one said what they have to do.  Actually, very few companies are obliged to provide the kind of customer service that they do, it's just that they have an economic incentive to provide the service - that no one will buy feeling insecure.

Bitmain is a weird exception since they have such a huge monopoly that there aren't enough good alternatives so they can get away with screwing everyone over.  No one should be buying from them by this point, they're a cancer to Bitcoin.
5074  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: something we can all be happy about on: May 04, 2017, 03:22:46 PM
What retailers actually accept zcash or augur or golem for example?
Retailers don't accept Litecoin or Ether either, and very few accept Bitcoin.  No cryptocurrency will have its price based on its utility, ever.  Their price is only based on the money that people hold in them, and utility is part of the reason why people hold money in it but they don't just put it in, spend it and be done with it.  People also don't only hold money in PayPal that they're spending that second.

And yes, it's daily price changes.

5075  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [Over 1 BTC Invested] 10 Vouchers + <<Business Investment - 20 % Weekly>> on: May 04, 2017, 10:04:10 AM
I will give this a go.
Looking for reliable investment opportunities all the time.
And never heard of someone doing this method before in leveraging amazon giftcards value before.
Interesting so will try it out.
And yes from what everybody is saying:
Just as long as you pay out to everyone who sends you bitcoin on time, nothing else really matters.
We all are here just to see and get results and that's about it! Wink

Yep, results speak more than any words Smiley
IMO you'll only have proven that you're getting the money legitimately when you're provably running the service at an overall loss (when you'd paid out more profits than you've received in deposits consistently).  HYIP admins run them for a long time sometimes but they still end up with a gain overall themselves.

I somewhat trust you right now, but I still view this as a high risk investment for now
5076  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's going on with Kraken?? on: May 03, 2017, 04:22:14 PM
Coinbase and Kraken have been having glitches, Bitfinex and OKCoin are screwed and even Bitstamp had a hack a while ago.  Exchanges in general are terrifying and the price is becoming questionable.
5077  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [Over 1 BTC Invested] 10 Vouchers + <<Business Investment - 20 % Weekly>> on: May 03, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
I've sent some more Bitcoin into this.

ID: https://blockchain.info/tx/dbb1cac58d14418f3e3df64590995e1e716f802586eb8af9cdcdfe197391d5c7

Thanks OP.
5078  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela political status on: May 03, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
Well im Venezuelan and i live here in Carabobo closed to he capital Caracas, and we right now are having a total media blackout, all the transmisions on tv dont show what is going on with the country, everything that they are showing is "cadenas" or long programations of the president saying that everything is out of control and e will use extreme forces againts his own country, the situation her is alarming we need international help right now.

Yeah I know how this will end.
Venezuela crying for help , the west providing help then we will get labeled as invaders, everyone will start thrwoing rocks and when the country turns back into a dump it's our fault again.

How about you start dealing with your own shit?
You;re the guys that elected both Chavez and Maduro
The West are never labeled invaders for providing financial aid.  They're only labeled invaders (correctly) for trying to intervene in civil wars which don't concern them.
5079  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alleged Bitcoin Founder Satoshi Nakamoto creating Bitcoin Core Competitor on: May 03, 2017, 03:25:24 PM
The use of the words "Satoshi Nakamoto" in the title is just to act as clickbait.
I thought it was the title of the article, but it turns out that the OP just wanted to spice up his thread. Angry

The syntax of the sentence is terrible as well.  It implies that Satoshi Nakamoto is the subject and therefore that he is the "alleged" Bitcoin founder.

Craig Wright, however, obviously isn't as it's really not that hard to prove you're satoshi if you are.  Journalists reporting it don't care whether or not he's satoshi as long as they can drag a good story out of it.  Craig Wright is a lunatic and if he's involved in it you can be pretty confident it's a bad idea.
5080  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are local bitcoin rates so much higher than preev rates? on: May 01, 2017, 04:20:36 PM
I'm seeing the exact opposite,  actually.   Preev is showing over $1400, while bitstamp is around $1387.  There have always been discrepancies like that, though, because of how small the bitcoin market is and the fact that there are numerous exchanges.   Preev should be a composite of them, though.  Not sure why they're listing the highest price.   That's what I'm seeing,  anyway.
I don't think you know what he's discussing.  He means the rates for the site LocalBitcoins.com, which is a peer-to-peer exchange.

The reason is very simple OP:  it's much harder for people to work with LocalBitcoins than to work on exchanges.  The premium is just the value of going outside to somewhere where another person meets you and manually waiting there for the transfer, along with the difficulty of selling and buying at times which are potentially inconvenient for you because it can take a long time to find a partner and the very high possibility of someone scamming you.
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