Correct me if im wrong, but i always thought it was an instamine rather than a premine, still im annoyed i didnt mine them earlier or at least buy a few because i could have had fun while it lasted and dumped the whole lot in the beginning lol.

^this makes the most sense. If I hold an election and votes cast in the first hours are worth more than votes cast afterwords, the vote would always have an asterisk next to it in the history books if the election date was moved up in the middle of the night and/or only those with rare credentials or at the right location were able to vote.

lol... masternodes can't trace anything unless you have basically all of them, which you don't.

Coin was released, mining started. Not the other way around. Do you know what a premine is?

"You want me to trust your assertion that you accidentally mined 2 million coins and didn't relaunch to validate your claim of a fair launch?" says Institutional Investor.

"But it was an accident!" says Evan.

"Get out of my office." says Institutional Investor.

What that has to do with lying about DASH having a premine?

https://dashtalk.org/threads/kyle-hagan-is-no-longer-part-of-the-development-team.3225/#post-33461

Kyle needs to understand that many have invested their time and money in this technology and any threat to this investment will not be taken lightly nor will be ignored. A person who has a known location, known identity, young children and other responsibilities should act smarter and avoid making unwanted attention by getting drunk and talking shit. That's all I can say publicly about this issue and urge Kyle Hagan be smart about what he does and talks in the future.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12057588#msg12057588

this is not a threat but a fact of life - screw over enough people and some of those people just might come looking for you - if you think you live in a country where you can't be touched, LOL - depends on how hard you fucked somebody over - it is what it is mate

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12057588#msg12057588

You are bold man: being known and identifiable in RL by the community and still harassing, and making such accusations...

Come on now - You're a BIG BOY Rich :-P
You know that real criminals, that believe they will never be caught, like to flaunt around - 'LOOK AT ME!! CAN'T TOUCH ME!!'

A time will come when he get's his
We might not know what happened but - somebody will....

I'd hate to be Eduardo when the shit does down in his life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pCQS6_hJ28




[disclaimer: this is not a threat but a fact of life - screw over enough people and some of those people just might come looking for you - if you think you live in a country where you can't be touched, LOL - depends on how hard you fucked somebody over - it is what it is mate (Eduardo is not a mate but a little bitch and you know what bitches get - and that's fucked - enjoy the DICK's Eduardo)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05hTBAOnDQE



edit: and of course in this previous scene: Eduardo is Steve........ HELLO!!!
lol

You are bold man: being known and identifiable in RL by the community and still harassing, and making such accusations... Your acts are a crime in the place where I am from. (Does it show you have already nothing to loose?)

Calling out someone for lying is now harassing? Do you know what a premine is?

Good riddance, they are now desperately harassing fluffypony on twitter for calling their scam out: https://twitter.com/TaoOfSatoshi/status/627173115840364544

China vehicle sales: 2004: 3 Million - 2015: 20 Million
US vehicle sales: 2010: 10 Million - 2015: 17 Million

I would follow those conspiracy idiots at Zero Knowledge not for 10 minutes.

Tyler Durden, one of the best financial bloggers around, have found some circumstantial evidence that suggests the mysterious Plunge Protection Team (PPT) has recently been boosting the stock market. And some might say Goldman Sachs is running the show...

The Working Group on Financial Markets, known colloquially as the Plunge Protection Team (PPT), was created in 1988 by Ronald Reagan, in response to the Black Monday stock market crash in 1987. Their operations have always been shrouded in secrecy, with a Washington Post article from 1997 writing that the group aims to prevent the "smoothly running global financial machine" from locking up.

Conspiracy theorists have long claimed that the PPT manipulates U.S. stock markets by using government funds to buy stocks in the event of market dislocation, but skeptics argue that such an operation would be unworkable.

Durden, author of the ZeroHedge blog, thinks he found some evidence of the PPT's interference with the market. He cites an unusual piece of data on program trading, a part of the stock market that is controlled by mysterious computer programs that use mathematical formulas to buy and sell stocks.

According to the New York Stock Exchange, last week's volume of program trading was 8% higher than the 52 week average. It's strange that program trading volume would be increasing so sharply when overall market volume is declining, says Durden. It's even stranger to note that principal trading, which occurs when a brokerage buys or sells stocks for its own account, is running 21% above 52 week average. New York Stock Exchange weekly volume, on the other hand, is running about 9% below 52 week average.

"A very interesting data point, also provided by the NYSE, implicates none other than administration darling Goldman Sachs in yet another potentially troubling development," writes Durden. "Key to note here is that Goldman's program trading principal to agency+customer facilitation ratio is a staggering 5x, which is multiples higher than both the second most active program trader and the average ratio of the NYSE, both at or below 1x."

why don't you give us the link to that quote so we can put it into context, you disingenuous Kid Troll.  i assume he was referring to this great video:

http://www.bitedge.co/blog/imf-managing-director-christine-lagarde-discusses-bitcoin/

note Hearn is speaking from the perspective of others for the most part.

I've asked you repeatedly on numerous threads to explain (in detail) your statement, but all you do is repeat the same name-calling exercise.  Here is yet another chance to prove that you have more substance.  Back up your statements with facts, proof, theories, dam near anything or just shut up.

1.    Darkcoin had a problematic launch: 2 million Darkcoin were mined in the first day (incidentally, there are around 2 800 Darkcoin emitted daily right now, so that should give some level of contrast). This may not seem to relate to your question, but it is important to establish the legitimacy and technical competency of the developer. The fact that the block reward does not match either of the three block reward formulae published by the developer is worrying. This points to an outright scam at worst, pure incompetence at best.

2.   When dealing with a cryptocurrency you need to be able to cryptographically and mathematically prove a particular claim. So in the original Bitcoin whitepaper Satoshi was able to mathematically prove the validity of the longest chain rule. The rest of his cryptographic claims were backed by the papers he quotes (Adam Back's Hashcash paper in particular). Darkcoin has no cryptographic proofs of their claims. This is important, because a cryptocurrency is a manifestation of cryptographic theory, not the other way around. If you try and shoe-horn it the other way around you'll likely find your model unsafe under the most basic of assumptions.

3.    The developer seems to eschew well-defined, anti-fragile, and proven Bitcoin concepts (eg. building a model based on paying for services via micropayment channels) for bizarre models that are poorly implemented and fragile (eg. payments based on uptime make a MasterNode a ripe target for DDoS attacks null-routing that IP).

4.    I have seen no evidence that InstantX transactions are not susceptible to malleability. This means that it is trivially easy to disrupt every InstantX transaction, and the network will fall back to processing them as "normal" transactions.

5.    This malleability approach also allows for easy forking of the network if you own a subset of MasterNodes, whereby your malicious MasterNodes vote for both of your transactions and feed those votes to two groups of miners. The claim made in the InstantX "whitepaper" is that the conflicting messages will "cancel each other out", but once the network is forked that isn't the case, as half the conflicting messages won't even be received by the one part of the forked network. By continuing to run this group of malicious nodes, feeding sets of InstantX transactions that appear to be voted in as valid, you can keep the network split indefinitely.

6.    The entire basis for "anonymising" transactions is based on clients being online at a given point in time, which means that those clients are also open to leaking information via temporal association.

7.    The developer seems to have a grave lack of understanding when it comes to the danger of incentives. The clearest example of this is this table of MasterNode ROI. As you can clearly see, a MasterNode's ROI is substantially higher when there are fewer MasterNodes. Thus there is clear incentive for a MasterNode operator to systematically attack and destroy other MasterNodes, but not so much that the network ceases to exist. Just enough to double or triple his ROI. Incidentally, this is a self-fulfilling prophecy, as in a hypothetical future where Darkcoin is processing thousands of transactions an hour it will require quite a hefty server to act as a MasterNode. The fewer MasterNodes there are, the more work individual MasterNodes will have to do, which means that those run by non-technical people or on cheap VPS's will be the first to go, eventually leaving a group of big boys with big guns operating the remaining MasterNodes.

8.    We've already seen ample evidence of law enforcement turning seemingly anonymous people into informants (eg. Sabu), hacking servers, and infiltrating systems in other ways. It is safe to say that LEA could also outrightly purchase large portions of the MasterNode network. It is impossible to tell which MasterNodes are real and which are owned by LEA (in perpetuity). Unfortunately it appears that the developer's line of reasoning, with respects to "how much" privacy Darkcoin gives you, started with the assumption that a supermajority of the MasterNodes are honest / not being watched / not infiltrated by LEA. This leaves open a huge, gaping hole whereby all of the "mixing" MasterNodes are involved in can be revealed by an owned / compromised majority. I can guarantee that the bulk of all MasterNode operators do not know even the first piece of opsec required to keep from your tin from being tampered with.

9.    MasterNodes can be tricked into believing they can no longer accept new connections, simply by filling up all their file descriptors. It is somewhat trivial to force new connections to a group of MasterNodes under your control.

10.    The developer has no clue how dangerous and stupid it is to chain hashing algorithms, as you open them up to pre-image attacks among other things. As a security researcher who discovered a flaw in chained hashing algorithms in PHP concluded: "The underlying problem is that combining cryptographic operators that weren't designed to be combined can be disastrous. Is it possible to do so safely? Yes. Is it a good idea to do it? No. This particular case is just one example where combining operations can be exceedingly dangerous. But the bottom line: never roll your own crypto. It can have fatal consequences."

paging Janet...

down she goes:

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Recessions, crises, depressions appear cyclically. As everybody knows. The economy has been growing since 2010.

20MB was always Gavin's opening gambit ...

So you don't like DASH, you should've just said that instead of contradicting yourself with illogicalities about building or not building on top of strong foundations.

sHITEATER

From the part of all of us:

the pro-bigger block upvotes on Reddit, IN GENERAL, are increasing in intensity and pitch and trashing Cripplecoiner's.  the whole lot of Blockstream core dev has been "in absentia" for weeks now and even the personal attacks against me are subsiding in intensity.

poor Cripplecoiner's.  the day of reckoning is nearing.