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August 06, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
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20MB was always Gavin's opening gambit ...


Oh sure...and getting broken on the Blackwater was always Stannis' opening gambit ...

If you backpedal any faster it might cause a time vortex.   Smiley

As usual, you pick up one element of the post, and ignore the rest, (the part that highlights your own misrepresentation of the article)

What exactly am I backpedalling from iCE? As this is my first post here re size, bit tricky to see what I am backpedalling from. I have always held the opinion that you quote. It is my interpretation of the situation, right or wrong. Is, was, remains unchanged. The only vortices are those you continue to create with your spinning of everyone's words. You'll get sucked into one of those, one of these days ...




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August 06, 2015, 04:55:50 PM
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/u/SwagPokerz nailed for probable Cripplecoiner shilling:

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August 06, 2015, 05:03:51 PM
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fiat is king. btw the hate bitcoiners have against fiat is far stronger than the political skirmish some moneranoj have against bitcoin (me included, I dont see reasons to use bitcoin anymore), seeing how bitcoin needs fiat to survive its quite a paradox it is hated so much, monero on other hand doesnt need bitcoin to survive.

So says the Monero pimp.

Sure, history will look funny to guys like you, the first proper electronic cash looked down upon by some holders of the first decentralized token.
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August 06, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
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paging Janet...

down she goes:



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August 06, 2015, 05:31:55 PM
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paging Janet...

down she goes:

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Silly Frap.doc, you just need to borrow a pair of rose-colored glasses from Gavin or Zarathustra.


Recessions, crises, depressions appear cyclically. As everybody knows. The economy has been growing since 2010.


See?  Keep calm and long AMZN.

The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
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Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


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It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

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August 06, 2015, 05:49:18 PM
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paging Janet...

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Silly Frap.doc, you just need to borrow a pair of rose-colored glasses from Gavin or Zarathustra.


Recessions, crises, depressions appear cyclically. As everybody knows. The economy has been growing since 2010.


See?  Keep calm and long AMZN.

Keep calm and long AMZN? This is your interpretation of the reality? which is:

Recessions, crises, depressions appear cyclically. As everybody knows. The economy has been growing since 2010.

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August 06, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
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paging Janet...

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Silly Frap.doc, you just need to borrow a pair of rose-colored glasses from Gavin or Zarathustra.


Recessions, crises, depressions appear cyclically. As everybody knows. The economy has been growing since 2010.


See?  Keep calm and long AMZN.

Is that so?  Then why is Jeff Bezos selling?
http://www.geekwire.com/2015/as-amazon-shares-soar-jeff-bezos-unloads-532m-in-his-largest-stock-sale-ever/

Also at something like ~3100 trailing P/E, no thanks.
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August 06, 2015, 05:55:48 PM
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paging Janet...

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Silly Frap.doc, you just need to borrow a pair of rose-colored glasses from Gavin or Zarathustra.


Recessions, crises, depressions appear cyclically. As everybody knows. The economy has been growing since 2010.


See?  Keep calm and long AMZN.

iCEBLOW, you're so confused.

long AMZN?  and you've been criticizing Gavin for saying the crisis is over?  bwahahahaha.
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August 06, 2015, 06:01:36 PM
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as Andreas says, "prepare to lose all your money!"  

same Andreas who vouched for NeoBee?

same Andreas who broke everything while at blockchain.info?

same Andreas who's spreading wallet hacking malware on twitter?

Yep. sure making his best effort to lose people money.

That guy is an oblivious douche. I wouldn't want him on my side other than to gather some more reddit derp "support"

reading your and iCE's comments is like watching English soccer fans pick favorite players, you hang on to the strangest things.

I just watched that youtube and Andreas says it like it is, what part of Bitcoin consensus do you disagree with and why?


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August 06, 2015, 06:12:16 PM
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The economy has been growing since 2010.

The economy has been growing since 2010.

OMG, it keeps getting more hilarious each time you say it.  Tell us another one!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

(Frap.doc, please replace the battery in your sarcasm detector.   Wink)

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The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Core GUI - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }
MoneroForCash.com  |  Buy and sell XMR near you  |  Easymonero.com  |  Bitsquare.io - Decentralized XMR Exchange  |  Buy XMR with fiat
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

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August 06, 2015, 06:23:44 PM
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this is whom yall chose to place your faith in  Huh


"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010
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August 06, 2015, 06:30:33 PM
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The economy has been growing since 2010.

The economy has been growing since 2010.

OMG, it keeps getting more hilarious each time you say it.  Tell us another one!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

(Frap.doc, please replace the battery in your sarcasm detector.   Wink)

Yes, it has been growing since 2010. But calm down, I know that despite the growing economy,

There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in

We asked for signs
the signs were sent:
the birth betrayed
the marriage spent
Yeah the widowhood
of every government --
signs for all to see.

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

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August 06, 2015, 06:45:23 PM
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this is whom yall chose to place your faith in  Huh


He's entitled to his opinion. According to his own arguments, the paper US Dollar should be abolished (used by criminals).

                                 
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August 06, 2015, 06:47:18 PM
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The economy has been growing since 2010.

The economy has been growing since 2010.

OMG, it keeps getting more hilarious each time you say it.  Tell us another one!   Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


Yes, it has been growing since 2010.

What a comedic tour de force.  Do you get your information from Gavin (AKA Bitcon's Chief Economist) or from book-cooking Obamanomics experts like Krugman?


WOW such economy!  Very growing!   Cheesy

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The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Core GUI - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }
MoneroForCash.com  |  Buy and sell XMR near you  |  Easymonero.com  |  Bitsquare.io - Decentralized XMR Exchange  |  Buy XMR with fiat
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004
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August 06, 2015, 06:58:18 PM
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this is whom yall chose to place your faith in  Huh



why don't you give us the link to that quote so we can put it into context, you disingenuous Kid Troll.  i assume he was referring to this great video:

http://www.bitedge.co/blog/imf-managing-director-christine-lagarde-discusses-bitcoin/

note Hearn is speaking from the perspective of others for the most part.
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What a comedic tour de force.  Do you get your information from Gavin (AKA Bitcon's Chief Economist) or from book-cooking Obamanomics experts like Krugman?

#REKT

Krugman is a collectivist as you are one of them.
And my informations about the economic output are indeed not coming from the baltic dry index. This index shows an oversupply of transport capacity,
while in reality - for example - the car sales have been growing since 2010. It did so, because the economy has been growing since 2010. Growing is the opposite of shrinking.



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this is whom yall chose to place your faith in  Huh



why don't you give us the link to that quote so we can put it into context, you disingenuous Kid Troll.  i assume he was referring to this great video:

http://www.bitedge.co/blog/imf-managing-director-christine-lagarde-discusses-bitcoin/

note Hearn is speaking from the perspective of others for the most part.

Hearn is, as usual, speaking from the perspective of Sand Hill Road and sigint.google.mil.  Of course he's going to apologize for the status quo, on behalf of his puppet masters TPTB.

The context, in the form of the comment to which Hearn is responding, was provided.

Hearn's asinine deflection speaks for itself.  It's not "hard to ask for more" than the current slaps on the wrist and bailouts TBTF banks currently enjoy, as perks of financing deficit-spending welfare-warfare States and their drug-running/money-laundering TLAs.

The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Core GUI - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }
MoneroForCash.com  |  Buy and sell XMR near you  |  Easymonero.com  |  Bitsquare.io - Decentralized XMR Exchange  |  Buy XMR with fiat
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004
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August 06, 2015, 07:15:37 PM
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why don't you give us the link to that quote so we can put it into context, you disingenuous Kid Troll.  i assume he was referring to this great video:

http://www.bitedge.co/blog/imf-managing-director-christine-lagarde-discusses-bitcoin/

note Hearn is speaking from the perspective of others for the most part.

cypherdoc and a hell of a lot of others even within the crypto-currency ecosystem want Bitcoin to become PayPal 2.0.  Gee, stop the presses.  Gotta control the peeps after all else they might buy or sell something without authorization.


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What a comedic tour de force.  Do you get your information from Gavin (AKA Bitcon's Chief Economist) or from book-cooking Obamanomics experts like Krugman?

#REKT

Krugman is a collectivist as you are one of them.
And my informations about the economic output are indeed not coming from the baltic dry index. This index shows an oversupply of transport capacity,
while in reality - for example - the car sales have been growing since 2010. It did so, because the economy has been growing since 2010. Growing is the opposite of shrinking.



q.e.d.

I don't believe for a second that the global economy is growing since 2010.  It may be slowly, painfully 'returning to the mean' of the, say, 2003-2005 era, but definitely not growing.  That's just a marketing line that the Oligarchy-run global media likes to spout, in order to get Average Joe/Jane to empty their savings, start buying new cars, new houses, and investing in the fraudulent U.S. Stock Market again, by telling them that "everything is better now, it's safe again!".  A debt-based world economy only works if the Average Joes/Janes STAY in debt, pretty much forever.

But there's now a huge problem: It's that Average Joes/Janes, the older ones, and now the new Millennials, all have seen through the bullshit of the last financial crisis, and been paying down/off debt, building savings again, opting OUT of new houses, new cars, the over-valued stock market, cutting subscription services, paying cash for their needs, etc.

This has our traditional Oligarch overlords VERY VERY worried.
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this is whom yall chose to place your faith in  Huh

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why don't you give us the link to that quote so we can put it into context, you disingenuous Kid Troll.  i assume he was referring to this great video:

http://www.bitedge.co/blog/imf-managing-director-christine-lagarde-discusses-bitcoin/

note Hearn is speaking from the perspective of others for the most part.

cypherdoc and a hell of a lot of others even within the crypto-currency ecosystem want Bitcoin to become PayPal 2.0.  Gee, stop the presses.  Gotta control the peeps after all else they might buy or sell something without authorization.



ah, i been wondering where my little dog tvbcof has been:



no.  i want an international digital monetary system that is apolitical and fair, controlled by no one, that is cheap, fast, easy and accessible by all ppl's of the world, that has a fixed supply so as to not be inflatable, that will replace gold, & that can take the human race into the next technological growth phase.  there's alot of great things to look forward to.  esp for our kids whom i'm esp worried for and hope to get thru the debt bubble collapse.
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