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521  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: end of the year trading strategy & predictions? on: December 11, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
I think just hold your bitcoins and hope that they go on to reach 20k or more in this year. You could try to trade the volatility, for example the dip recently from 17 to 14k but right now I think just buy bitcoin if you can and hold some, probably sell some alt coins soon because I think bitcoin will rally again before year end and then alts will dip.
Bitcoin is always making progress from last few years. Bitcoin is developing from a long time of 9 years and if some compares bitcoin price of 2010 to 2017, results will be shocking. Like you have said, if someone have altcoins in wallet then go for selling and get some money. Put this money in bitcoin and see the results. Bitcoins will be going towards moon within in upcoming years.

522  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin better than stocks, real-estate? on: December 11, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
It's a simple question.. Bitcoin is better because it allows you to gain up to 1000% profit per year!! Shares and property more safe investments, but it's boring and slow.
That’s true, it makes you more than you can ever make from other stocks and commodities and real estates. If I had millions to invest on real estate sale, I’d rather invest it on Cryptocurrencies than making such wrong decision.

Bitcoin is never a bubble, as some people say, it’s just being moved by the rate of investment, though it’s likely reduce in price, but that won’t be any time soon, it’s volatile and we all know that it is. So even if it goes down it will still go up to a good and decent value.
Real estate is much safer than crypto and stocks, which is why it has smaller potential profits (if you hodl and don't flip with leverage). It's a good hedge if you want to make sure that you will always be able to maintain a given level of lifestyle.
That is highly agreeable. Real estate have much secure profits than bitcoin but the difference comes when you talk about speedy profits and increasingly time span for such profits. Real estate is like bitcoin and they have some common characteristics like you can hold any assets in real estate just like bitcoin. But anyone who wants to get secure and immediate profits, bitcoins are best for them.
523  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price prediction on: December 06, 2017, 11:43:12 AM
at the end of this year I predict we will be able to get bitcoin price with a value of 6000 $. looking at the current development I'm sure that this can be achieved, let's see more and more bitcoin users and also start many countries that do regulation about bitcoin. this will positively affect the bitcoin of course.
It may goes to 10,000USD too in light of the fact that take a gander at the detail and individuals conclusion it is becomes a web sensation step by step so we can state that we should need to gather data from market and it would reach to 10,000USD soon so I might want to state that take a gander at the market. Market guaranteed to individuals that bitcoin will have awesome cost toward the finish of year.
Prediction are useless now because bitcoin is not working on our wills it is depending on the demand and it’s the investor desire whenever more investor come price climbs up and whenever price fall investor come to rescue and give more pump to the price as well so as for future assumption maybe price will go to 22k at the end of this year many people are saying that large country will accept bitcoin in coming days,
524  Economy / Economics / Re: 1Bitcoin as a gift from someone on: December 06, 2017, 11:13:03 AM
If you be given a gift of 1BTC by someone and for you this amount is already something you did not expect. Will you sell your bitcoin right away and convert it into cash or just keep it for a better price to come or invest it or what?

if I get 1 bitcoin as a gift from someone I will invest it and hope to get more profit so the bitcoin that I get will continue to grow
Everyone will do the same because no one will be spending it now everyone has basic knowledge about bitcoin and if by fortunate I get the bitcoin as gift I will do same and hold it for many years because it is so worthy gift which price will increase time to time and when I will be in need of money then I will use bitcoin to manage my all the finances and sometime its not to use gift holding it forever will also bring trillions,
525  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Will Reach $40,000 in 2018? on: December 04, 2017, 01:09:37 PM
I don't think but I hope that will become true. If it becomes I am going to upgrade to a new house lol and I am not kidding, just 2.5 bitcoins with that price will give me a new better house than the one I am actually living in. In my opinion I think that bitcoin price can vary during 2018 from 15.000 dollars up to 25.000 dollars but I hope I am wrong in the upper side prediction. It looks like we are going to have a very nice holidays during the end of this year.
We cannot say much yet right now, but in the absence of any FUD and just some little corrections and at the rate bitcoin is going, I would say anything can happen.

I remember when a whole lot of us disagreed early this year when speculation of hitting $15,000 by 2018 was going on.
I guess I was one of the first to dispute something like that happening. I guess I ended up wrong anyway. New cash is going to end up flowing in and we should expect some craziness in the coming month.
I am sure that 2k18 will be more luckier than 2k17 and there will be more progress coming in this year maybe many regions will join the race as well and maybe china will hold the ban and the bitcoin get started in there again all this is expected but I am sure that after the mid of 2k18 there will be high pump in the prices and that will take the market rate to above 40k and the profit will be mind blowing at that time.
526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Rulers Can ban Bitcoin through the entire Earth! on: December 04, 2017, 12:26:37 PM
We Know That We Have High Personalities that control each Country and They are The Officials Of United Nations Leaders, What Do you Think, if they Ban Bitcoin in every country, for the Reason that bitcoin is Decentralized and can make FIAT Disappear. What can You say about it? as an Individual Bitcoin User?

If these things happen the only thin we will do is just accept the fact that bitcoin will be lost forever. But the things is why bitcoin will be banned world wide what is the reasons? 
This will not happen because rulers are wise to their regions and they know that bitcoin is for the welfare of their regions and the main thing is that bitcoin s benefiting the who mankind around the world and solid reason will be needed to ban bitcoin and there is no such can of misbehaves that are happening because of bitcoin and if this will get banned then there will be only cash and boring routine of money.
527  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country will be the first to legalize Bitcoin? on: December 02, 2017, 01:23:31 PM
I bet on china but they are planning to ban bitcoin on their country , instead they are going to develop their own cryptocurrency to regulate on their own. But if China changes their mind, it might be the first country to legalize bitcoin because of their economic status now , they are rank one (1) with highest percentage and well known of their technology developments.
You are either just woke up form slumber or are not updated, China has banned bitcoin already in their country and there are many countries who have already declared bitcoin legal. Japan is indeed among these wise states who has let her people enjoy the perks of using world best crypto currency or improving their financial states. Bitcoin is now on its way to get legalized many developing countries such as India etc.
528  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Restaurants accepting bitcoin! on: November 30, 2017, 12:45:03 PM
Bitcoin has started to gain popularity now and its also been accepted as a payment method and recent example is my friend paid his room tariff with bitcoins in Grand Hayyat Hotel, Dubai last week and that proves that bitcoin is becoming popular currency now and in future we see many places where we would be able to make payments using bitcoins.
We all use to buy the things for the feeding and we are having the bitcoin as well so you are happy the same I do because with this the bitcoin value and the price graph will go high it is the new era and the bitcoin is easy to pay for all the things now, in my country a lot of the hotels and the restaurants are accepting the bitcoin as the payment and the they are having the bitcoin payment service it is the reason the bitcoin is now very famous.
I get happy to see you enjoying the bitcoin is this way but I wish if it could happen in my country because not all the people are now accepting the bitcoin in my country and I am now very hopeful to have the price and the income with the bitcoin, the more you will buy the bitcoin the more you will have the income, so I hope the value and the use of the bitcoin will increase more in my country as well.
529  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the economy situation in your country that bad? on: November 30, 2017, 12:01:32 PM
economy situation in my country is not that bad. government does hard effort to reduce little by little the country's problem of economy. the result is, our economy is developing. small example recently is that president gave 1273 hectares of forest in my city to the poor farmers in order to be exploited by them so that it can help to solve their financial problem. I really appreciate government effort.

Well the global financial system itself has never been good as people always complain that population is increasing and there are no jobs and so i don't see any improvements with time but rather its better at every stage and time because it gets worsen as we grow and attempt to solve some of these economic problems.
Well these are some unfortunate things are happening in our country and its going to badly effect economy and same there are a lot of are jobless as well so in this kind of situation bitcoins going to play a role and its make a lot of people with jobs so I think bitcoin will survive in our country forever and I will must say thanks to bitcoin.
Yes this is something bad and feel sorry to say that in my country economy is not good and a lot of people are jobless here and most of the people left country and they are doing job abroad but in this kind of situation bitcoin really give a big hand to our people and now people have changed their life’s and they are very happy from bitcoin.
If you will share the more bitcoin and the more bitcoin will buy the bitcoin source will help you buy the bitcoin at the high level because the main source of the earning in the bitcoin is the investing and the sharing I hope the best source of the earning is the bitcoin now, I am buying the bitcoin and the bitcoin is going to be the power of the day as I know the bitcoin will help me more in the future.
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ethereum a bubble? on: November 28, 2017, 11:13:31 AM
It is relative.
I think that NOW it is at ~380$ and the fragile part is last 80$, it case of bad news or rumours, it could go down easily to ~300 $. So yes and no. There is some layer of speculation and then there is "base" where long term holders are located and possibly ICOS are involved in this base level as well.
What you are describing are just the usual ups and downs and not indicators of a bubble. A bubble is what happens when an asset is bloated way beyond its value.
Exactly, Just because of the reason that there is a huge pump and dump in the market price of ETH, you cannot treat it in a way that is bubble. This is not at all fair. In fact, it is not only ETH which is having volatile nature, in fact all other coins which are there in the world of crypto currencies are having very similar kind of behaviour. ETH is not at all any kind of bubble. It has its own importance.
531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: November 28, 2017, 10:45:03 AM
I do not think so. Of course, experience can help in some situations. But gambling depends on luck. And luck is not related to experience. Even experienced people sometimes lose everything. There are always many risks here.
Gambling is the one which is totally dependent on luck. Experience does not count in gambling, you just need some good luck to win this game. You should never ever dependent on any kind of experience in gambling. Gambling is never going to make you win the game no matter for how long you have been gambling. You should never ever waste money in gambling because this is very bad addiction.
532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: November 27, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
as a gambler my worst mistake i ever made before was to play poker and because i kept on winning i was in condition to play hard for as i remembered i played for over 24 hours and in the end i went home with an empty pocket and a loan from one of the financer in casino.  Sad

Playing for 24 hours straight? Are you even in the right way of thinking or you are totally out of your mind. Playing for that long will be making you lose what you had collected for the earlier time you gambled with poker. Don't do this, it's totally a disaster and a worst mistake.

I have no doubt he is addicted gambler, his believe like he has spend his straightforward 24 hours to play gambling, and in the end his hand empty. He seem like addicted gamble, may be he has learn lesson from his worst mistake. But i really feel bad for him. That's why we always discuss that always control on yourself and don't play gambling continuously, because in the end you find nothing.  
I think anyone have experienced that kind mistake , so should we call ourselves as a gambling addict?
You get a crazy winning streaks , you think it will remain like that but when you continue playing things turned around.
Wasn't really a worst mistake , it is normal mistake that anyone have done it.

I don't think that every gamble have experience that kind of mistake. Normally you will see this worst mistake do it only addicted gamblers.
Have you play gambling for 24 hours and in the end you borrow money to recover your lose?
I have spend 3 years in gambling but i never did this worst mistake, even i got lose and lose most of time, but still i know how to manage and control myself.
I mean mostly , people frequently losing control when it comes to gambling .
So there is big chance for anyone who involve in gambling could do that mistake , trying to recover from a deep lost but failed.
I won't surprised if someone share their experience about how chasing losses in gambling always be the biggest regret, i have heard a lot of stories like that.
That is the reason why I say it is good to face your nightmares with open eyes instead of daydreaming. This is what is wrong with us, human beings that we expect a lot from our lives. We think life is too easy but with time we realize reality it is opposite to our imagination.

For me, gambling itself is a very big mistake but what you have mentioned is actually the worst mistake in gambling world.
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When ICO rush will stop? on: November 24, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
Certainly so. ICO projects that come quickly and leave no impression on investors will have to stop quickly. There are currently too many ICO projects but not much success. Investors are more cautious with the ICO.
Most investors are getting smarter each day and that is a good thing. The reason why we are having so many ICOs now is because there are still some naïve investors who just drop cash for any project they see. A time will come when people will only start investing in projects with value  and discarding unreasonable projects and with that we will hardly be seeing any scam ICO in the community or worthless ones.
Not only ICO many other currencies in the world will stop because there are no investors to buy those currencies, and so is the ICO, and after China’s ban over ICO the market value of this currency fell down to its knees and I think that soon it will stop because no one want to invest in ICO when there is bitcoin available in the market, because everyone wants profit against their investment and not to lose their investment.
534  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin actually just a Investment coin? on: November 21, 2017, 11:41:01 AM
I think the title says it all.

After a long time of thinking, reading and also investing a bit into Bitcoin I have to say that it looks for me that the main use is actually just pure Investment. It always looks like that everyone just talks about how great the Technology is although they secretly want to get super rich with a always raising price. Of course it's used with several shopping or daily things, but that's just such a small part of it.
During that, people who don't want to take the risk to invest call it a "Bubble" and people who don't want to lose their money just make kind of stupid speculations without any arguments.

In the end (just my opinion) the price of Bitcoin is controlled by all the media (that's hyping bitcoin and talking about it everywhere) and all the really big bitcoin whales with e.g. like 10000+ coins can actually effect the market the most. Imagine what a few people with a huge amount of bitcoins could work out together to control the market and making money.

It's just weird, because it turns this, what everyone calls it, great technology in the end just to a fully commercial object to earn money. Which would be probably also the reason why it stays and raises all the time, because it's normal that everyone wants to make a big amount of money with this little effort.

Let me know what you guys think and please don't give me this non argumented one liner like in all the other threads Wink
Its the reality indeed on which most people do really have the hidden motives or perception on getting rich or making good profits into bitcoin even if they would say into other people or on public that they do like the innovation and benefit that it gives. I have the same view regarding on bitcoin is just being treated as an investment purely not totally on its actual usage on where it is being stated on its own whitepaper.You cant blame people though because if money is involve it would really be a different story.
Yes, it is an investment currency and most of the people use it for investment. Maximum people think that bitcoin is just a currency of investment  and use it for that purpose. They do the right but bitcoin can also be used for online shopping and many of the people are using it for that purpose. I think not only investment and shopping but every type of payments.
535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: impact of social media on: November 21, 2017, 11:10:07 AM
But if you compare advantages and negative impact... is the negative side really bigger?
Social media has negative as well as positive impacts, this modern era is completely dependent on social media. It depends on us that how we are using it. Students can take help from social media in their studies, online jobs are available, connecting people but at the same time it wastes our time, weakens eye sight etc.
536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: why are people suffering from jealousy ? on: November 20, 2017, 02:27:42 PM
each one of us has his own dreams and we try all the time to make them come true but when it doesn't work we start being jealous of others because they on the way to reach theirs or already reached them , we hust need to believe in ourselves and work as hard as we can
It is a psychiatric issue, people do not believe in themselves and start getting jealous of others success. It must be understood by every person that no one is perfect and everyone has got different qualities. We must believe in our qualities and behave with patience because with patience and continuous  hard work we can achieve our goals.
537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who can destroy Bitcoin ? on: November 16, 2017, 01:23:50 PM
I do not think bitcoin will suffer destruction because over time more and more people are using bitcoin to perform various transactions or just investment. only one thing can destroy the bitcoin ie the internet. bitcoin will be destroyed if the internet can no longer be accessed and it will be impossible.

I think for now this bitcoin is not a problem to be a disadvantage. Because the bitcoin is the most profitable and also have the best future. And keep in mind, the internet will not be lost or destroyed. Because basically bitcoin is a digital currency is best, and it's certainly the internet will always be a place to update and expand. So don't ever minded bitcoin will crumble when the internet is lost, because surely the internet will never be lost. Continue working and never surrender to face everything.
I think bitcoin reached to that stage which is now not possible for anyone to destroyed bitcoin because now bitcoin is not alone there is huge quantity of users who support bitcoin and also such a big and develop countries are going to support bitcoin so I think there is no chance for anyone to destroyed bitcoin and even hackers also.
538  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Under Attack Stay Strong on: November 16, 2017, 12:52:10 PM
Why is everyone against bitcoin cash? Is it only because you hold bitcoin?

Don't you think it's good to have bigger blocks and faster transactions? Makes bitcoin currencies more mainstream

All I know is that it detracts from and competes with bitcoin.  The publicity from this attack can only be bad for the price of whichever coin ends up on top.

It's a real concerted attack, with miners deserting BTC and the BCH price being being pumped at the same time.  Is there also a flood of BTC transactions happening at the same time?

I can't sell my BCH because I want to move my BTC off the same addresses first, and transactions aren't being confirmed fast enough.  Currently 46 minutes since the last block.
I think bitcoin is now use to with different challenges and bitcoin know how to face these challenges in past bitcoin face banned from different countries and also there was a different fork have come on the way of bitcoin so this time again if any challenge come toward bitcoin I’m quitsure that bitcoin will defeat it because people support bitcoin.
539  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: btc target on: November 16, 2017, 12:22:59 PM
btc november target is comming soon look at btc is boom Grin Grin
I think btc ride is over for some while.
Because segwit2x has ben canceled.
Now we can see little pullback to 6500 dollar.
And money maybe flow again into altcoin.
I don't think that's gonna happen, the target for the ongoing month has been reached. Now the entire focus is towards the year end price which is expected to cross $10000. Right now the cancelation of segwit2x has created an outline of a price decrease by the falling days. Such a drop won't take place.
Price will go more up and bitcoin worth more than it is now so those who are saying that there will be a fork are bit overconfident there will be no fork in coming days market cap will go more up and this will cause prices to rise more and in the mid of December 9k will be crossed in steady manner and keep praying for the more rise because I want to earn more before the Christmas and it is near so finger crossed.
540  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: job and trading together.. on: November 16, 2017, 11:52:52 AM
job and trading together  very good idea .if you want earn extra money so you can start regular trading. i suggest you invest , hold ,and regular trading .many time trading is very risky but  also you have good knowledge in   trading.
Doing both in parallel are good ways to earn a lot of money and this coin has real potential that it doesn’t require much time to sit and work you simply have to see the market critics and makes decisions according to them and our friend group is doing same thing we are continuously observing price critics and this thing help use to generate more revenue than we are getting thorough our proper jobs and its well enough.
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