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521  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 03, 2013, 03:13:09 PM
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522  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 03, 2013, 02:24:47 PM
Customers are saying that they are being told to wait 2-3 months. Either they are lying or we are going to be months behind. Have some skepticism please.

While it may be true,

When some random comes on the thread and says "A Friend told me we were going to be 2-3 months late" I take it with a grain of salt.

If there was a way to get verifiable information then we can all go nuts but until then it is just hearsay.


Come on Bar, you're not an idiot. Ken frequents this thread all the time and could have disputed any such claims and restore confidence, yet Ken lets this hearsay spread.

He doesn't give news of any kind one way or the other so you cannot play that card. I honestly have no idea what Ken plans on doing at this point as his November announcement was all fluff and delay tactics with a hint of disappointment.

This isn't terrible news but it definitely wasn't good either so we're basically back right where we started before the announcement.

Enjoy the Ride™
523  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 03, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
Customers are saying that they are being told to wait 2-3 months. Either they are lying or we are going to be months behind. Have some skepticism please.

While it may be true,

When some random comes on the thread and says "A Friend told me we were going to be 2-3 months late" I take it with a grain of salt.

If there was a way to get verifiable information then we can all go nuts but until then it is just hearsay.
524  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 02, 2013, 09:31:46 PM
Ok now that everyone has given their two cents. Ken can we hear an update about how much of a delay the chips will be. When do you expect us to be mining? This should be a very simple question with a very simple answer. Just answer the question so people can shut thee fuck up.

These questions will not be going away. The more you dodge them the more you look like Labcoin to everyone here. You are doing the same thing to us that Ukyo is doing to you.


Well said,

Ken's major announcement was just adding more track to the rollercoaster.

Enjoy the ride some more!
525  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 30, 2013, 08:22:11 AM
The day of reckoning!

526  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 29, 2013, 02:59:21 PM
Oh my, everyone's still wasting their time bitching at each other, just imagine all the new skills you could learn and hobbies you could enjoy if you put your egos aside and stopped trying to flaunt your tiny e-penises. But nope, apparently proving yourself to internet strangers is the most important thing in your lives right now  Sad

Back on topic though, I'm looking forward to Ken's announcement as well as the imminent re-listing of the stocks, as of now with the current bitcoin price and a minimum 0.0045 share price I'll be able to pay off almost my entire student loan, sweeeeeet.

Does anyone know what happened with the whole web-design fiasco in the end? Last I heard Ken turned down all of lewicki's work and left us with a pretty awful looking online presence.

That is still the case.
527  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 29, 2013, 02:08:36 PM


I am one thing and one thing only, A concerned investor who wants to retire. I have lived a long life and this is my retirement fund.

I would like your cheap shares, and Zum, I have more faith in this company. You want to sell at 0.0025, I believe a price of 0.02 is possible. I might not be the cheerleader you are looking for, but the investor you need.

I am 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% certain the following will hold true:

- We will not ship a single miner.
- We will not be given any information to-do with chips.
- We will not have expected hashrate estimates from Ken.
- We will not be trading.
- I will not be able to retire.
- I doubt we even have a prototype.
- I will be depressed and sad.

Also I still have my student allowance, so no going hungry for me!

I hope everyone puts this guy on ignore. Whether this particular investment makes you money or not I'm positive you will or would have lost it another way in the future. That is the beautiful thing about stupid money, no matter where it comes from it will go to it's rightful place sooner or later.
528  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: November 28, 2013, 05:49:35 PM
Hi All

I'm getting some people saying the "Application DigiMex IceDrill.ASIC requesting permission to access your Google Account." message is problematic for them because they don't want us to access their Google account.

We can't access your Google account, the bit below that message states that we'll have access to some things: and then it lists your email address. Your email address is the thing we have access to, not your google account.



What does this exactly mean?

It means they now know your email address. That's it.
529  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 28, 2013, 05:24:47 PM
I'm thankful for the constant flow of cheerleaders white knighting giving us many laughs,

the trolls sending them into a frenzy more easily than ever,

and the majority of level-headed "mightier" investors getting some quick laughs in at both parties expense.

Which one am I?

Depends on the day LOL
530  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 28, 2013, 05:17:44 PM
I see the slow decent into "no news" madness continues unabated.

Gobble gobble!


Hah, correct you are.

What are you thankful for this Thanksgiving?

I'm thankful for the constant flow of cheerleaders white knighting giving us many laughs,

the trolls sending them into a frenzy more easily than ever,

and the majority of level-headed "mightier" investors getting some quick laughs in at both parties expense.

All is right with the world.
531  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 28, 2013, 01:29:23 PM
I'm guessing VE got bitcoins in the first place to buy meth online... seems like the typical druggie type...

But I would like an update from Ken please - December he's supposed to start shipping, and he's already supposed to have test chips in hand. Updates have been extremely thin and they are borderline overdue now.

"Overdue" would be anything past Nov 30th.

Updated Financials and supposedly a big update are coming.

Today is Thanksgiving in the USD. Ken is likely with his family enjoying the holiday.

You guys might want to let today just go. If VE is actually selling his shares then you guys wouldn't mind making a thread on the auction forum where he can't say that he "changed his mind" without being called a scammer.

Right now VE is rolling on the floor laughing at people trying to grab at his shares that I believe he never plans on selling.

Either way, enjoy the day if you are outside the USA and Happy Thanksgiving if you are inside.
532  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: November 27, 2013, 10:33:20 PM
Hi Will,

Please look at the following

Ok after one day asking John finally told me something:

Substrate manufacturer is late 3 days.  Board bring up should happen Saturday, and shipping to start dec 13

Lets see  Roll Eyes

From my understanding IceDrill is "technically" Batch 1 since you should be receiving everything first before anyone else receives their units.

Did HashFast let you guys know to be expecting machines next week or the following?
533  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly [Batch 3 open] on: November 27, 2013, 09:56:12 PM

Might be totally off on this but do you have them on unpowered USB hubs?

If you are getting nothing but HW Errors it is likely due to your USB Hub/Or you started the mining program while the Miners were still booting up.

Occasionally I'll have one that just causes issues out of the group (never all of them) and a quick reboot and changing the port the USB is plugged into fixes it.

I've tried them on a powered hub, connected straight to mobo USB and now connected to expansion USB.

I'm hoping that the firmware is/was the issue. The guys I bought these from said they mine via linux and they have been spot on in that OS. I could understand Win7 going whacky with these things.

Hah, I had the exact opposite issue. I would have so many issues with Linux and when I put my (Currently 34) Chilis on Windows 7 64x I had much less issues if any.

The Hubs seems to get hung up sometimes and I noticed that usually if you have no USB Errors (Device Manager) there won't be any HW Errors. Occasionally for whatever reason windows doesn't like the chili plugged into a particular slot on a hub and I have to just move it and the Chili is seen fine. All this has to be done prior to starting the mining program.

Once you have them running though it's smooth sailing Smiley
534  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Chili – 30+GH/s BFL based Bitcoin Miner Assembly [Batch 3 open] on: November 27, 2013, 09:27:32 PM
OK, so all the way back to post #586. Firmware is stated as being 1.4 from the looks of things?

I've got a board that, again assuming I'm doing this right, the firmware flashing program claimed to have 1.0 on it. I thought I flashed it with 1.4 but after a power cycle the board still shows as having 1.0.

What am I doing wrong?

FWIW, I'm having a HELL of a time getting these things to hash in Win764. I had them working on a computer at home but so far three computers in my office dont like these things. They all get detected by the OS as BitForce256, windows does its thing and installs the FTDI driver and all seems well. I start BFG, they hash for a split second and ALL go dead???

Change the driver to WinUSB via Zadig and start CGMiner and they all do the same thing (by all I mean all 12 that I have).

Anyone have any ideas?

Could be firmware but I cant seem to get this flash procedure down right...

Might be totally off on this but do you have them on unpowered USB hubs?

If you are getting nothing but HW Errors it is likely due to your USB Hub/Or you started the mining program while the Miners were still booting up.

Occasionally I'll have one that just causes issues out of the group (never all of them) and a quick reboot and changing the port the USB is plugged into fixes it.
535  Economy / Securities / Re: This is the story of your loss. on: November 27, 2013, 03:53:46 PM
Best parody write up I've seen in a while! Well done!
536  Economy / Securities / Re: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement on: November 27, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
25% off Monarchs on Bitcoin Friday according to BFL newsletter.... but don't know if we're "monarch heavy" already and need to spread risk.


(Don't know if rack space density is an issue, thinking we'd get upwards of 5 TH in 4U with monarchs, if power allowance is good for that... other options are looking like 500-2TH in between 3-5U...)

25% off February Delivery Monarchs (at earliest) and probably near the back of that line still puts it at $5.85/GH

There are much better deals to be had.

537  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 26, 2013, 11:15:32 PM
How bout this: if you get the inclination to snark or talk smack to someone DON'T.

If you gotta retort, go ahead and write it out and DON'T post it. Then go and scream into a pillow or something. I can't tell you how many times I've NOT posted some inane comeback with the realization that it added no value whatsoever to this discussion.

It's fucking getting annoying to swim through paragraphs of people talking shit while trying to discern if there is any real valuable information in this thread.

Sadly we have a few little twats on here that are just as bad as the FUDsters.

They know who they are and will likely respond to this post.

All of this is just mental masturbation.

Basically
538  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 26, 2013, 04:24:34 PM
Good for you... what's that have to do with the network hash rate doubling monthly and future calculations showing ROI being negative?

I absolutely hate people like you that come in here and slap genesis block calculations down.

If the hashrate doubles every month, we'll be at 10PH by the end of december, 20PH by end of January, 40PH February 80PH by march and 120 by april.

Does this even look realistic to you?

Using words like "Double" or "Percentage" "every month" is extremely lazy, please come back when you have some sort of proof for your claims. (You won't be back because there is none, every manufacturer out there would have to deliver 10PH worth of equipment by april to reach that)

A valuable calculation could be getting the actually adjustments per diff change for the last year or so, and finding what the historical data really shows.

Or just look at what KnC sold and assume that every other manufacturer of 28nm out there can do the same in the same period of time (I'd argue they cannot) so this should be a high estimate.
You have HashFast, Cointerra, KnC, Blackarrow, Bitmine, ActM, BFL. If all of them sold 3PH during every batch (every 1.5months) we'd be adding ~56PH by beginning of April.

If you think Bitfury, Avalon, "Clam", "AntMiner", ASICMiner, etc.. can maybe do 1/2 of that with their nodes then add another 20-25PH to that.

For a total of 5PH (Currently) + 56 + 25 = 86PH maximum by April

However we know a lot of these 28nm companies are going to be delayed til the end of December, their batches suggest they won't be delivering 3PH per batch, and some might not even make it.

Oh and by the way let me AGAIN let you try to comprehend where you believe we will be at 120PH in April

120PH = is over 17B difficulty I believe (Just did a quick guestimate) which is >24x where we are at now.

It would take >218,000 Jupiters to reach that. (They sold ~5,000 in their first batch)

Only 43 batches to go!
539  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 21e6, LLC - Secretive ASIC manufacturer that raised $5 million on: November 26, 2013, 04:09:41 PM
i am still betting someone, somewhere will release in 20 or 16nm during 2014 !

Not unless you have enough money to build their own fabrication plant  Tongue

Any new node will be booked solid for years by the likes of IBM, Intel, AMD, nVidia, Samsung etc. for their own products.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants

Still think that, Gator?


It's already a fact

http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-pre-orders-next-asic/



I got my quotes out of sequence. Gator was the one who said it wouldn't happen. I said it would.

Ah makes more sense, gator has been spewing armchair engineer nonsense for a while now.
540  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: November 26, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
Good for you... what's that have to do with the network hash rate doubling monthly and future calculations showing ROI being negative?

I absolutely hate people like you that come in here and slap genesis block calculations down.

If the hashrate doubles every month, we'll be at 10PH by the end of december, 20PH by end of January, 40PH February 80PH by march and 120 by april.

Does this even look realistic to you?

Using words like "Double" or "Percentage" "every month" is extremely lazy, please come back when you have some sort of proof for your claims. (You won't be back because there is none, every manufacturer out there would have to deliver 10PH worth of equipment by april to reach that)
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