You can get desktop I3s with hyperthreading, but the thing is they are only dual core. As are the mobile I5s. Basically if you want 4+ cores AND hyperthreading, it has to be an I7. I could be wrong but I think there was a period when intel was cranking out I5s that were basically I7s with lower clocks and hyperthreading disabled.
I wouldn't doubt that for a second. But both my macbook and my imac are dual i5s with 4 threads total. My i7 server and i7 rig are both 4 with 8 threads. These little boxes are actually my first experience with this gen of computing that DOESN'T have hyperthreading (other than my rigs built with super cheap celerons)...
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My i5 mac mini and my i5 macbook pro both have hyperthreading.
And they both use mobile CPUs which have always followed the doctrine of "Dual core + hyper threading". Fair enough! Just what I was basing the possibility on... And to be fair, if you saw how tiny these things are you'd be forgiven if you thought they might have mobile versions of the cpus in them.
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And what would be best for core OC for neoscrypt? Seems my equihash and cryptonight setting of TDP 60 or 55 , +100 core (and even +80) crashes on the 1060 3gb and 6 gb when on neoscrypt.
Thanks.
Start without a core mod setting and scale up in increments of 5-10. When you first hit instability, isolate which card is causing it and lock it at 5-10 below where you are and keep going until you've got all your cards running stably at the peak performance. I have not actually messed with Neoscrypt much (I'm too energy conscious for the higher algos), that's just how I work with 1060s in general. I use Ethos, so I'm doing all the adjustments in the local.conf file, YMMV of course. If you are also using Ethos, if you reboot before you start testing, you should be able to just do sudo ethos-overclock to test new settings, at least for the first 15 minutes or so, can't remember what the time cut off is.
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Still waiting for a response, btw.
What's the word on making the GPL3 source code available for review, Blissz?
To add some encouragement to getting this released, I'll be issuing a DMCA takedown to have bitcointalk remove this thread for copyright violations in 24 hours if the complete corresponding source code to the distributed firmware binaries is not uploaded by then. I am a one of a number of cgminer copyright holders. As a fellow rights representative (in the music industry, but still), I completely respect your intentions and your rights here. What I would suggest for the community's sake is requesting that the thread be locked and the download link be removed until the situation is resolved, so that people already using the firmware can still access the conversation (for support purposes). Also I noticed in the D3 thread that the author did eventually address similar concerns, so maybe giving more than 24hrs? I don't know how long you've been trying to contact him/her, however, just a though.
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Hmmm, according to Intel, the 5575r chip is CAPABLE of hyperthreading. I wonder if there's a driver that can enable it?
Dude no its not.... https://ark.intel.com/products/87714/Intel-Core-i5-5575R-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz4 cores/4 threads. Historically, desktop i5's have never had hyperthreading. Only the mobile variants that were dual core had hyper threading. Even today, the 6 core i5 8600k has 6 cores/6 threads. I dont know what you are talking about with a "driver" enabling "hyperthreading". I wonder if any of you have ever really dealt with CPUs prior to this. Feel free to wonder! I hope it makes you feel all warm inside. I was going off an intel document about this specific processor that said hyperthreading was enabled (though the same document said a max of 4 threads, which is just plain confusing). My i5 mac mini and my i5 macbook pro both have hyperthreading.
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So you're pulling 600 h/s on your i7? What needs to be changed in the config or CPU file . . . I'm only pulling in 250, I didn't mess around with any of the low power settings, it's still on the stock "false" -
It's the low power setting. Instead of false, try out a multiplier. Changing mine to 5 pumped me from 140 to 359... EDIT: Also, and this may be a linux or Iris specific thing, but (at least on the i5) doing the suggested change to sudo vi /etc/security/limits.conf dropped my start from 359 to 320, and eventually my hashrate dropped to 180. Commenting it out brought everything back to 359 and stable, so I suggest testing it if you want, but it doesn't seem necessary (if you are still getting locked RAM messages, I was able to get rid of them by sudo running the miner, but I don't think they had an effect on hashrate) Also, just fyi, setting the low power setting to 5 upped my consumption a wopping 3W. So 140-200h/s was around 40W, and 359 is around 43W. While the ROI on the i5 model is much, much slower, for low power/low heat setups, the return is pretty great.
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Hmmm, according to Intel, the 5575r chip is CAPABLE of hyperthreading. I wonder if there's a driver that can enable it?
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If it has an Iris pro then the L3 size is irrelevent. The issue you will run into though is that the I5 only have 4 cores and no hyperthreading. To take full advantage you need 8 threads. Make sure for the low power setting you are putting in 5. you should probably be in the 300s
Well that sucks a bit. And I was wondering why they don't have hyperthreading, every i5 I've owned up to now has. Weird. Still, at 300 I'm not thrilled but I'd be happy enough, that's a 4.5-5 month ROI which is about average for mining gear. It's only pulling 40W so far while mining, so that's not too shabby...
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I suppose its my turn to contribute something. If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S. You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache. The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache. XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space. It should ROI itself in 2.5 months. You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere. Ok, I picked up and set up one of the 5575rs (identical to the 5775, just i5 instead of i7). Out of the box and just using xmr-stak with the energy saver off, I'm getting around 200-202 h/s, which is not great but not bad. I haven't figured out how to enable support for the Iris Pro yet, still working on that, but I'm feeling pretty confident I can get it up significantly... EDIT: ok, not exactly identical, it's 2.8-3.3ghz and 4mb l3 instead of 3.3-3.8 and 6mb l3, but I still think I can get it up much higher than 200h/s I've got the i7 version, and I'm only getting 250 H/s. You're right though, it is a zippy little thing. You said you've got it working off USB? Are you using win2go or something like that? I tried it on a rig that was using a G4400 and it was just way too laggy and slow. Hash aside, I actually like it. Made me look into the Intel NUC version, nice and slim. 3x the price but I might I like it so why not. I'm using Lubuntu, did an install to a 32gb usb3 drive. Since it's mostly going to be mining, I kept it a pretty minimal install. I think the key to better hashrates lies in the SDK for OpenCL from Intel. Problem is you have to sign up first, and it can take up to 2 days before they send you a link to the files. There is a Windows version as well. Also I deleted and reinstalled xmr-stak and now am getting 140h/s. Gonna have to figure out why THAT is...
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I suppose its my turn to contribute something. If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S. You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache. The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache. XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space. It should ROI itself in 2.5 months. You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere. Ok, I picked up and set up one of the 5575rs (identical to the 5775, just i5 instead of i7). Out of the box and just using xmr-stak with the energy saver off, I'm getting around 200-202 h/s, which is not great but not bad. I haven't figured out how to enable support for the Iris Pro yet, still working on that, but I'm feeling pretty confident I can get it up significantly... EDIT: ok, not exactly identical, it's 2.8-3.3ghz and 4mb l3 instead of 3.3-3.8 and 6mb l3, but I still think I can get it up much higher than 200h/s
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Bought a couple of the Iris Pro 6200's at Microcenter for $400 to play with today - not worth it at all. Even at $250, add another $100 for Ram and SSD, it's only getting 250 H/s so you're talking about 12 months for your return.
God I love returning crap.
"So what was wrong this time?"
"Nothing, I just want my money back"
"Ok"
Search around a bit. I got my 5575r (the i5 version) for around $275, a 4gb RAM stick for around $35, and a 32gb usb3 stick for $11. Working on it right now, so far it's zippy as hell and running smooth, about to do some miner install and testing... EDIT TO ADD: your return enjoyment is exactly why I love Amazon; "Select reason for return: No Longer Needed". I love clicking that.
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Please use the search function, there are literally tons of threads on this topic.
Why not be a peach and do the search for him and post the links to any useful thread discussion here? I understand you complain about shit post, but you is shitposting anyway with that reply. Sure. Hey, why don't I do his mining for him as well? It's not like it takes much to do a search, that's what it's there for.
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Thank you guys, i'll pick the Ti tomorrow, i hope that this will be still available. Do you know a good mobo under 100€ that i can use? I had find Asrock H81 Pro BTC R2.0 but unfortunately it is now sold out everywhere
For a single card? Pretty much any modern mobo will work. If you want to future proof, get one with 6-8 pcie slots minimum. For my builds I went cheap: a GIGABYTE GA-H110-D3A and a BIOSTAR TB250-BTC+, both with cheap Celeron CPUs and single 4gb sticks of RAM. Does the damage just fine, at least using Ethos. Boot times are a little slow but once everything starts chugging away you can't tell the difference and the power consumption is good and low... They are both out of stock and overpriced here in Italy.. Especially the BIOSTAR, that cost something like 230€.. I have to find an alternative :/ On Ebay there are some Asrock H81 PRO BTC that comes from China at a very ridicolous price 45€, But it's probably not safe to order from there (Becouse of time, orders from china always keep 30-45days to come here) I may have just gotten lucky when I bought them. Like my 1060s, I totally thought I overpaid at $299 each, but now they're like $400+. The prices DO fluctuate, but if you need something now, your other option would be to just get anything cheap that fits the number of cards you currently have, then order the cheap option for the long haul (I originally started using an old Gigabyte 1156 board with 4 pcie slots that I had lying around)...
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Please use the search function, there are literally tons of threads on this topic.
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lucked out on the last batch of EVGA 3gb from Amazon, all were Samsung. Rig of 8 avg 200mh/s on claymore for Ethereum.
Is it worth it to look into dual mining?
For the 6gb cards: definitely. Can't speak to the 3gb, but I have 8 of the 6gb (5 Samsung, 3 Hynix) and all 8 take next to no loss in hashrate when dual mining. YMMV of course, but whenever I am mining any ethash coins I ALWAYS dual SIA. Worth a shot...
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You will get twice as many threads mining crytponight light coins (1MB per thread instead of 2MB), though I can't speak to the value/earnings. I think AEON is one?
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I'd rather get 1080 instead. Right now it's only about $20-ish more than 1070Ti, but has the same TDP as 1070Ti, and gives significant more hashrate (okay, probably not for memory-intensive algos like ETH...)
Yes, i've find only cards 1080 that costs 100-150€ more than the one i find. Unfortunately this is too expensive for my estimated budget. :/ Reviews I've read say the 1070ti rivals the 1080 with less power draw. I guess maybe the 1080ti is probably the top consumer priced card?
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Thank you guys, i'll pick the Ti tomorrow, i hope that this will be still available. Do you know a good mobo under 100€ that i can use? I had find Asrock H81 Pro BTC R2.0 but unfortunately it is now sold out everywhere
For a single card? Pretty much any modern mobo will work. If you want to future proof, get one with 6-8 pcie slots minimum. For my builds I went cheap: a GIGABYTE GA-H110-D3A and a BIOSTAR TB250-BTC+, both with cheap Celeron CPUs and single 4gb sticks of RAM. Does the damage just fine, at least using Ethos. Boot times are a little slow but once everything starts chugging away you can't tell the difference and the power consumption is good and low...
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Those XXX cards have a switch on them near the power input; it's a "backup" bios, which is great (as I learned when I bricked one card while trying to flash it), but they also weirdly seem to be like a turbo setting, as all of my cards went from 24 to 29 with those switches flipped (I use Ethos so I was able to adjust memory and voltage a bit without flashing).
Also you need to adjust your claymore settings; try not dual mining and JUST mining Ethereum and see how you do. If it's significantly higher, your secondary coin is using too much of the gpu. When on dual mining I tend to lose around 20-30% of my ETH, but at current SIA value it is often worth it (I don't really mess with the Claymore settings, but there are plenty of tutorials for that both on the forum and easily googlable). Good luck!
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There are a bunch of threads on this already that will offer far better advice, but I've used a milk crate, an old 4U server chassis, and a couple of metal shelving units (using copper piping to support the cards).
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