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521  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Prediksi Harga Bitcoin on: January 03, 2024, 12:32:38 PM
Akhirnya bisa menentukan di mana saya akan posting, kemarin saya lihat ada 2 yang baru, mau nimbrung ga enak juga, karena double thread. Apresiasi buat mas Komisariatku yang memilih untuk mengunci thread miliknya.

Back to the topic, BTC mengalami koreksi cukup tajam hari ini, dari 45K kemarin, hari ini menyentuh 40K (terendah), apakah ada isu negatif tentang Bitcoin ETF, hingga terjadi flash dump?
522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 02, 2024, 04:47:09 PM
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 If Newcastle management had added talented players to the squad before the start of the season, we might not have seen their decline.

Newcastle become a rich club in the EPL, but players are still not sure about Newcastle's future potential. If this season Newcastle can improve its performance and at least can finished in 4th position, maybe in the summer transfer window, Newcastle can find better players than at the start of this season. Because there are prospects shown by Newcastle if they successfully compete in the UCL for two consecutive seasons.
523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich, average or poor. Who loses more? on: January 02, 2024, 04:40:51 PM
Now, who loses more often between the two? I think that probably depends on the luck that one of them will face. Because the ones I often see who win in gambling when it comes to luck are the poor type of people, and if someone who is rich wins, it is also because of luck, and his gambling bet is also big.

There is no actual data that can be used as a reference to compare, so we can only assume. But as mentioned in my previous reply, rich people can get bigger wins, because they can bet bigger and for longer durations than the poor. This is the only one in my opinion that is a reference. Luck is necessary, but in terms of playing duration and winnings, rich people definitely have a greater chance of winning.
524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: January 02, 2024, 12:23:14 PM
That's good if the person is really aiming to prevent any involvement or any thing that relates into gambling he should have this control inside him, it's not an easy task which not everyone can easily practice but with the kind of determination it's not impossible to work it out inside you, just focus and think of it as an everyday challenge to you.

Coping up and trying to move yourself away from gambling needed that complete focus, every thing is count for the betterment of yourself.

That's right, we ourselves become the enemy when we want to stop addiction. Whatever type of addiction it is, smoking, gambling and so on. Without self-will, control is very difficult. I've experienced that. When I was very active in gambling, it felt like every day I wanted to play, no matter how much deposit I made, at least I had to play. However, because I was made aware by members of this forum, I started to control myself not to force myself to gamble every day. Once again he reminded me, don't focus on winning, because focusing on winning will make us even more eager to keep depositing when we lose. These words, coupled with personal decision to control my self from gamble, made me successful in not gambling for quite a long time, last few weeks i play a gambling, but I always limit from initial deposit no more $20, except i get a big win, sometimes I'm back with more bigger, as far as i already made a withdrawal more than i deposited both initial and additional, if no withdrawal i will stop till next week. In essence, ourselves is the key.
525  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Hasil Survey Tingkat Elektabilitas Capres, Haruskah Kita Percaya? on: January 02, 2024, 11:26:39 AM
Susah sekarang untuk percaya survei mas, saya sendiri hanya melihatnya sebagai data, tapi tak sampai mengubah pemikiran saya. Karena, mau tidak percaya, hasil survei dengan hasil pemilu sering sesuai, walaupun tidak 100% sama, namun cenderung sesuai.

Saat ini, sulit untuk menemukan lembaga survei yang benar-benar netral, kita yang tidak pernah tahu siapa yang mengambil survei tersebut, akan selalu memiliki pemikiran yang sama. "apakah ini hasil yang benar-benar netral atau mengusung paslon tertentu?"

Kalau tentang tidak penah didatangi oleh surveyor, itu memang hal yang sangat mungkin terjadi. Karena ada kemungkinan mereka memiliki zona yang menjadi target, dan zona tersebut di luar daerah mas. Saya pun ketika bekerja di tengah kota tidak pernah ada surveyor yang menanyakan siapa yang akan saya pilih, apalagi yang saat ini di desa. Kemudian, jika sampel yang diambil adalah 1000 - 2000 orang, dan tersebar ke seluruh Indonesia, anggaplah ke 15 provinsi, maka masing-masing akan mendapatkan kuota antara 100 - 200 orang. Ini bisa didapat dari beberapa kecamatan saja  Cheesy

Jadi, akan tetap masuk akal kalau kita ga kedatangan surveyor. mungkin zona kita yang tidak terpilih atau emang karena sudah melebihi batas dari daerah kita.

kalau tidak salah, saya pernah memberikan komentar di forum ini, akan lebih meyakinkan hasil polling di forum ini daripada offline maupun di social media lainnya. ini kalau konsepnya dari netralitas orang yang ikut polling. karena saya yakin bagi yang ikut polling adalah murni pilihannya, bukan ada desakan dari paslon atau tim pemenangan tertentu. mengingat polling di forum ini tidak akan dihitung secara nyata oleh paslon.
526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers understood the game on: January 02, 2024, 11:13:23 AM
Me too. I am very less used to slots games.  And I don't like slots games because prediction doesn't work well here. Now Win is completely dependent on luck. I  you have good luck then you can win here and if not then you have to face only loss.  So I think games that cannot be won by prediction should always be avoided. I've lost almost every time I've played slots. Sometimes I read stories here about someone winning millions of dollars from slots, it's nice to read them but I couldn't face them myself


What we face is different, I rarely gamble on sports. I actually played slots a few years ago, and I was very active. So, I understand when my friends talk about Zeus, jackpots and so on. But, I just listened. Sometimes I tell my friends about the loss experiences gainedfrom member on this forum. Because maybe there is a lesson they can take.


In my opinion, giving an understanding about gambling to our friends is a natural thing because fellow friends of course we share knowledge if we know the type of game, and if you decide to just give an explanation without having to tell them not to gamble on the game you told them about, that is your right but you don't have the right to tell him not to use the game in the type of gambling you explained because your friend is the one who make his own decision, namely deciding whether to play or not. You shouldn't be blamed by your friends because your goal is only to explain the game without telling him to playing, if your friend blames you for losing in the game, you can blame him again because you didn't force him to gamble because you only told him and only explained it.

Of course, as I said before, sharing about gambling is common sense, but I choose not to discuss it for too long, because even though I never ask them to play, when they play and lose, there will be a guilty conscience in me, coz talking about the game. Of course this is the responsibility of those who lose, however, it is not impossible if one of them thinks I have influenced them to play. Therefore, listening more, talk less, for me is the best. Because, the way gamblers think here, is no better than member on this forum. On this forum, a lot of gambler already understand that gambling is for fun, but here it's mostly to get money, profit, instant jackpots.  Grin
527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: January 02, 2024, 10:57:25 AM
We have so many gambling casino representatives here. Did they ruined any forum members life? Is there anyone here who has a relative or close friend whos life was ruined by gambling? Or our experience of "gambling ruin lives", "gambling is bad" is build on articles, video stories or movies? If a kid is easily addicted to things, it is easy to influence on him, then gambling yes, can be dangerous for him and it is advisable not to gamble in front of such kids. But he can similar be addicted to fast foot, smoking, drinking, overeating, overspending money. Solution to whole problem of this topic is easy - know your kid.

Maybe what he wants to convey is to give a limits on his child while he is not ready to gamble yet. We know that our children may not have good responsibility in various things, including controlling emotions. Your solution is correct, we have to know our child and his character, but, our focus as parents, should be to give warnings not to gamble, smoke and so on, as long as he cannot accept the risk to himself. Even if in the end they become addicted to something, then at that time we as parents need to accompany them. If it can be stopped, of course, it will be good, if not, at least you can control it. But, before they understand all the risks, it is best to prevent them from gambling, even if their parents were former gamblers, active gamblers to stay away from them while gamble.
528  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: January 01, 2024, 05:08:21 PM
Setuju. Isu terkait ETF dan keputusan SEC sepertinya bakal punya pengaruh besar untuk bullrun season kali ini.
Ini adalah yang paling diantisipasi oleh para holder bitcoin, 50K bukan hal yang tidak mungkin pada bulan ini apabila SEC menyetujui ETF. Setelah isu ETF ini reda, koreksi mungkin terjadi, mengingat ETF akan membuat fomo, dari fomo ini harusnya ada koreksi. tetapi, yang membuat saya sedikit gundah adalah, halving. jarak dari januari ke april begitu dekat, apakah mungkin pada waktu yang berdekatan ini, tidak terjadi koreksi signifikan? walaupun ada yang memprediksi bulan januari adalah bulan koreksi, namun fundamental yang kuat pasti dapat mengubah prediksi tersebut. apakah mungkin, pencapaian new ATH tidak lagi sesuai pola sebelumnya? atau justru 2025 menjadi puncak dari prediksi BTC 100K+? ini yang menjadi pertanyaan saya saat ini. bagaimana menurut kalian?
529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inflation and crypto gambling on: January 01, 2024, 02:28:19 PM
Maybe this increase does not apply to all types of gambling. For slots, I have tried checking the casino sites where I gamble, from there, I have found no difference in the minimum bet offered, it has not changed. Maybe for lottery, and if it's offline I think the increase is because you have to print tickets. because there are production costs involved in making tickets, so it makes sense for offline lotteries to increase the price of these tickets, so there will be a inflation effect. Maybe online ones that don't require printed tickets won't increase ticket prices. Meanwhile for BTC, if in the past the ticket price 0.0001 was 1 dollar, now they are still have a same price, but become 4 dollars today, this does not mean that is inflation, but fluctuations in the price of BTC that change its fiat value. IMO
530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers understood the game on: January 01, 2024, 02:06:43 PM
Yes, let them come to us and ask about gambling rather than us telling them because this has serious consequences for us. Perhaps that person doesn't have good self-control, so if we talk about gambling, they could become addicted to gambling. But when they come to us and ask to explain their gambling games, we can explain that gambling requires self-control. If they can accept all the consequences, we can show them the gambling game and let them choose the gambling game. Maybe we can look after him while he is gambling and always remind him that gambling requires responsibility and self-control.

I myself rarely talk about slots games to people around me who are talking about it. I choose to just listen on topic, and not speak anything before they asked to me. But I agree to remind them to be in control, because I myself have experienced losing control when playing slots, and it is really bad. If someone asks about a good game with an attractive RTP, I can just say, "don't trust the RTP percentage too much. If you're really curious, please search on Twitch, maybe you can find the answer." because I don't want to be seen as inviting them to play. I avoided it a bit, so that I would have a reason not to be blamed.  Grin
531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich, average or poor. Who loses more? on: January 01, 2024, 12:27:15 PM
In fact, it requires clear statistics to provide a comparison of results. But, from what I can explain is, when rich people gamble, they have a larger limit of money to gamble. Simply put, poor people can only gamble up to 10 bets, while rich people can gamble up to 100 bets. out of 100 bets, a rich person might gamble a bet of more than $10, while a poor person might bet a maximum of $5. From this comparison, when rich people win, they will win bigger than poor people, especially if they get the jackpot. so maybe they have the same losses between rich and poor, just different wins such as having rich people win more.
532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: January 01, 2024, 12:07:12 PM
Having alternative activities that will keep you busy will allow you to lessen the chance of thinking about any gambling related activities, if you can help the person to be attracted and be engage with another physical activities like sports or any types of exercises which will give them some refreshment, though addiction also have different levels if you can help to avoid getting to deep and still can cope up with doing some kind of entertainment you can push the person to change up and to completely move away from this bad habit.

Increasing offline activities maybe become effective in preventing us from gambling online. However, this must also be ensured that when he is alone, with no friends to talk, he can use his time to sleeping. As soon as he wakes up, he has to stay away from gadgets again. If he want to open his gadget, use it for other things that don't trigger the desire to gamble. The ease of internet connection and online ads can change everything in a few seconds. In fact, opening social media can make people who initially didn't want to gamble, become thinking to gamble again. The reason is easy, the cache on the device or browser will usually personalize the ads, if you gamble frequently, then gambling ads will appear on our social media pages.
533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 01, 2024, 12:00:03 PM
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AC Milan will probably just struggle to keep themselves in the top 4 and compete with Fiorentina and Bologna for a while. Meanwhile, Roma and Napoli will still be busy getting closer to the top 4 rankings.
That's right, AC Milan may currently making 3rd place as their target this season, even though Milan has the potential to become champion, but with the point difference with Inter & Juventus it seems difficult to overcome. This possibility does exist, but Milan's inconsistent performance could making AC Milan cannot stay in 3rd place or be able to compete for the Scudetto. The most important thing is how Pioli maximizes all the matches he will face in the second half of the season. 3rd position will be the best position for Milan. IMO.
534  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Pandangan anda tentang koin solana on: December 29, 2023, 05:21:44 PM
Saya dulu pernah ada coin solana tapi sekarang sudah tidak lagi karena udah duluan ke jual, dan kenaikan solana dalam dua bulan terakhir ini membuat saya meresa menyesal telah menjual duluan.  Ini lah kelemahan saya kalau berinvestasi pada altcoin, saya tidak bisa menahan lebih lama kalau pada altcoin karena masih ada rasa takut, tapi tidak dengan bitcoin.-snip-
Ini adalah kejadian umum mas, banyak yang tidak ingin menahan terlalu lama pada altcoin, karena bagaimana pun potensi scam itu ada. Misalnya FTX yang sudah memiliki exchange cukup besar pun kabur begitu saja. Sehingga saya pikir, rasa takut yang mas hadapi adalah bagian dari sikap waspada. Tapi, tidak perlu menyesali jika sudah tidak lagi ngehold SOL, jika memang ingin fokus menambahkan SOL lagi, kenapa mas tidak mencoba mencari proyek di jaringan sol yang sekiranya memiliki utilitas bagus? Karena saat ini sedang hype proyek di sol.
535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does casino streamers have influence in your gambling life? on: December 29, 2023, 01:03:45 PM

when I read the first few lines of your reply I thought that you would try the pattern and it turns out you did. Grin
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back to the topic. that whatever happens that is broadcast by streamer is not all true and not everyone can have the same luck and anyone who watches streamer uses any strategy or pattern, just think of it as not a way to win or increase your chances of winning, but just think of it as management strategy budget so it doesn't run out quickly.

No, it's not, like a fake results on my behalf Tongue

Are you sure that what the streamer shows is not all true? Because I never following streamers so I didn't think about it. AFAIK, there are accusations that some streamers do not use real accounts, but accounts where they will always get deposits from the casino (no need to spend their own money) and if they win, the money cannot be withdrawn. Streamers only get paid as an influencer, not the winnings on their account.

I don't know if the rumors are true or not. but since then I have been quite doubtful about the validity of the balance of streamer. Even if I watch it, at most I just see the gameplay of the slots being played.
536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 29, 2023, 12:55:32 PM
-snip-That's why maybe considering the rates we can see for this match it is worth even betting on Sassuolo and taking more risk however this can't be a safe bet.



the difference in odds is very big, it will be interesting if Sassuolo wins.
Maybe, currently it seems Sassuolo is not the team that can beat Milan with a score of 0 - 5 at the beginning 2023. However, I feel that Sassuolo has a good history when they comes to against AC Milan. H2H is actually in favor of Sassuolo with 3 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss. So, if you dare to take the risk to get big odds, who knows, Sassuolo may be can add to their winning history when they against Milan.
537  Economy / Gambling / Re: ETHPLAY - HIGHEST RTP SLOTS CASINO | NO KYC | INSTANT PAYOUTS on: December 29, 2023, 12:45:08 PM
Obviously, as mentioned by @Slow death, if a player deposits $10, then wins $50, he wants to withdraw $30, then that cannot be done, because it is below the minimum specified in the rules. In my opinion, this is not friendly for players who are only looking for small wins.

Then, there are too many rules for making withdrawals, max 2x a day. These withdrawal limits seem to need to be considered again, because I have experience on other websites, I am free to withdraw. If I'm lucky I can withdraw more than 2x a day, with small withdrawals under $30, so I think this website may not be suitable for those who like to withdraw under $100 like me  Cheesy
538  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 1000SATS (SATS) Token BRC-20 Yang Sempat Ramai on: December 29, 2023, 03:22:37 AM
Ikutan main token ini? Kirain agan udah kapok mainan token meme / token geje kek auto rebase dkk.

Kalau ane kapok waktu Terra/Luna Grin

Belum hold apa-apa mas, tapi saya hanya tertarik untuk mengintip topik ini. jadi dari pengalaman dulu saya curahkan disini. Kapok sih tidak mas, karena saya akan tetap degen micin, cuma untuk sekarang masih belum bisa. IYKWIM .

yang pasti sekarang pola hype berpindah ke token inscribe begini. selama masih early keknya bisa icip2 kalau udah free.

539  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: (diskusi) harga pancake(cake) dan axs on: December 28, 2023, 03:58:50 PM
kalau gak salah dulu pancake itu punya proposal untuk melimit supply mereka tapi gatau udah di implemntasikan apa belum. Rencan dev tersebut sebenarnya untuk mendongkrak harga ketika supply cake sendiri terbatas. dan untuk saat ini pancake masih tidak terbatas supplynya.

Ini sudah dijalankan sejak lama mas, jika mas mengikuti laman X mereka, mas akan mendapatkan informasi nilai cake yang di burn dari waktu ke waktu. cuma saya tidak tahu, berapa batas terendah sampai burn ini nanti dihentikan. akan tetapi, jika merujuk pada ATH dari cake sendiri, saat ini masih sangat jauh. dengan pengguna dan layanan yang terus ditingkatkan, saya rasa potensi cake untuk jangka panjang bisa dikatakan potensial.

DYOR/DWYOR/NFA
540  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: December 28, 2023, 03:44:26 PM
Masih ada 2 hari lagi sebelum tahun baru dan bitcoin bisa recovery ke harga tertinggi lagi, untuk saat ini belum ada informasi buruk dan sepertinya ada rasa optimis dua atau tiga hari ke depan harga bitcoin bisa naik kembali secara drastis. Harus sedikit sabar dengan modal yang tidak begitu besar untuk berinvestasi di bitcoin agar mendapatkan keuntungan yang sedikit lumayan.

Untuk bitcoin, sepertinya pasar sedang mengalami wait and see dari keputusan SEC yang akan segera keluar. jika dari keputusan tersebut menetapkan bahwa terjadi approval, maka BTC kemungkinan akan mengalami reversal. tapi, jika sebaliknya, ada kemungkinan untuk mengalami koreksi lebih dalam. Jadi, mungkin mas bisa mengikuti perkembangan berita dari SEC, mungkin ini dapat membantu mas dalam mengambil keputusan, karena saya pikir keputusan SEC akan menjadi fundamental kuat untuk BTC saat ini.
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